davebg 0 Posted September 4, 2007 So, we're back to having issues w/the dog poop lady two floors up. No actual poopage on my property, but, well, you all can read the emails I've sent today to management (Bill = management) and the board. This was sent last night to management: On Monday, Sept 3, shortly before 6pm I was out on my patio enjoying the holiday...sitting down to eat some dinner w/my wife. Then the sliding door of 505 XXX Ct opened, I heard the dog tags jingle as it was let out, a minute or so later I heard the rustle of a plastic bag and then the dog was let back in. How wonderful. Nothing tops off a nice dinner outdoors like a dog crapping a couple of floors above your head. These people have been warned multiple times about their dog and where it is and is not appropriate to walk it. THEY DO NOT LISTEN!!! The behavior of some of the dog owners in XXX Ct is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE. I am not the only one who feels this way. It is my understanding that management has been contacted about a number of similar incidents (I heard that the mad pooper of XXX Ct hit the 6th floor the other day) and that one resident has requested that she be allowed to post for a building only meeting to discuss these matters. I STRONGLY suggest that management and the board take a direct interest in what is going on in this building because people are SICK AND TIRED OF IT!!! I forwarded the above letter to a guy I know on the board w/the following added: The email below was sent to the management office last night. At this point, I do not expect that Bill XXX will get off his lazy ass to do anything about it (he didn't before, so why should he now?) The current siutation in XXX Ct is COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE. We have had multiple issues w/dogs crapping wherever it suits their owners...off of balconies, at the top of the stairs to the garage, just outside the door in the garage, on the 6th floor... Then, when I post copies of the XX rules regarding dog ownership on the bulletin board by the mailboxes they get vandalized...likely by the very same inconsiderate slobs who we have to put up with b/c Bill is a spineless jellyfish. Meanwhile, management is either impotent to resolve the problem of just plain old incompetant. The residents are losing patience. I know that one resident has already stated that she intends to contact Bill to get permission to post for and hold a building only meeting to discuss these matters. How ironic that we have to get permission to post about a meeting to discuss the problem that we have with frequent rule breakers in our midst...if only they followed the rules as well as the rest of us. Of course, this raises the question of why we continue to employ Bill XXX, who clearly fails to meet the needs and expectations of the residents at XX. I mean, if the residents can't count on management to do anything to resolve these types of issues and we have to take it upon ourselves to do so, then what do we need Bill and his bloated salary for? I received the following repsonse from Bill's secretary today: We are sorry this occurred. However, there is nothing we can do as there is no incident to address in this situation. According to you, the dogs were let out but this did not result in it affecting your balcony in this situation at least according to your email. I replied w/the following, which was also CC-ed to the board: I'm sorry, but I do not accept that "explanation" in any way, shape or form. According to the rules regarding dog ownership at XX...rules posted on the official XX website... "DOING THEIR BUSINESS: Pets MUST be taken into the street. They are not to be walked on the sidewalks or lawns with the EXCEPTION of the lawns on grade level along the North and South ends. They MUST be walked in the pine trees along the exterior of the garage perimeter. Pet owners MUST carry appropriate means by which to clean up after their dog whenever the pet is walked through or on ANY common area. FAILURE TO CARRY SUCH AN ITEM SHALL BE DEEMED A FINABLE VIOLATION OF THIS RULE. If your pet should have an accident in the lobby, elevator, garage or other public area, in spite of your best efforts to prevent this, the pet owner shall clean up the soiled area immediately. This is a responsibility of pet owners, NOT building maintenance. In each instance in which a Resident is in potential violation of Pet rules, a determination shall be made to ascertain whether a finable violation has occurred. The factors used to make this determination include, but are not limited to, the cooperativeness and attitude of the pet owner with respect to the incident, whether the incident appears to be an isolated event or appears to be a continuing pattern, and whether there is a valid reason for the occurrence (for example, the pet is ill)." We have had repeated problems in XXX Ct over the past 6-8 months regarding a minority of dog owners who can't be bothered to follow these rules. We have had dogs crapping on balconies, in the common areas/hallways and in the garage just outside the door to the building. These are all clear violations of the rules of the development. As such, the residents expect that management DO IT'S JOB and enforce these regulations. If management is saying that they are unwilling or incapable of enforcing these rules then maybe we should be asking whether or not new management is needed. I know that I am not the only person who is complaining about this stuff in XXX Ct. I know that other residents have stated their desire to hold a meeting for the owners in XXX Ct to discuss these issues (code: do management's job.) Frankly, if the residents at XX have to fend for themselves, then what good is our crack management staff? When I first had these problems with the residents in 505 XXX Ct. I attempted to handle it myself and was advised by the board that I could not go and post the truth about what was going on...that I couldn't call out any residents by name or unit number. Instead, the board told me that the residents in 505 XXX Ct were advised that they COULD NOT HAVE THEIR DOG DO IT'S BUSINESS ON THEIR BALCONY...PERIOD...END OF DISCUSSION. Why does management now refuse to follow through on the board's decision? Is management now telling me that the board was wrong? Am I being told that management can't/won't (?) act on this, so it's in my hands now? Who is in charge? Management or the board/residents who pay management's salary? Does the tail now wag the dog? If it's my problem to deal with, then get ready. I will plaster the entire development w/fliers and I will name names. I will call out my "neighbor" in 505 XXX Ct and identify her as the inconsiderate slob that she is. I will ask the inconvenient questions...like why we continue to offer employment to someone who repeatedly fails to meet the needs and expectations of the residents of XX. Maybe I'll just start a blog where all the residents of XX can share their "Bill XXX" stories. I would offically like to request the following issues be added to the agenda for the next board meeting: 1) The enforcement of rules (of lack thereof)...particularly as they pertain to dogs and their mess. 2) The horrible paving job done on the upper level of the parking deck. 3) The lack of foresight on the part of management to have all of the fences AND decks painted/stained at the same time so they match. 4) The unsatisfactory job being performed by XX management...in particular, Bill XXX. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franknbeans 46 Posted September 4, 2007 move out of the hood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted September 4, 2007 move out of the hood If I lived in the hood I would. Instead, I live in a well-to-do condo development right on the Hudson overlooking Manhattan. It is truly an eye opener how one or two bad apples can really roon it for everyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted September 4, 2007 Man, are you a weenie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,701 Posted September 4, 2007 I poop on this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,275 Posted September 4, 2007 I poop on this thread. REPORTED!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted September 4, 2007 Man, are you a weenie I pay $450/month in condo fees. Is it too much to expect that the people that are being paid w/those funds actually do their job and enforce the rules? I'm not complaining about someone playing their stereo too loud. I just want to be able to eat outside w/out a dog pooping overhead...to be able to walk out to my car and not have to avoid a pile of poop in the hallway. I don't think that's asking too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franknbeans 46 Posted September 4, 2007 If I lived in the hood I would. Instead, I live in a well-to-doo-doo condo development right on the Hudson overlooking Manhattan. It is truly an eye opener how one or two bad apples can really roon it for everyone else. fixed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted September 4, 2007 fixed Well played, sir. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hellothere 1 Posted September 4, 2007 these balcony poop threads are pretty entertaining. please continue to post updates as my job is mind numbing and i will take what i can get. tia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,433 Posted September 4, 2007 I thought that this was a Najeh Davenport thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,048 Posted September 4, 2007 So... you heard a door open, the sound of dog tags jingling, something about a plastic bag, the door closed... and created all of this? You truly need help Dave. Also Bill and whoever else was in this thread has you on full "ignore" now. Good luck with that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,701 Posted September 4, 2007 Sounds like the dogshit finally hit the fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heavy-set 39 Posted September 4, 2007 kinda long? Bush is kind of a bad president Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jets24 6 Posted September 4, 2007 Two points. 1. The manager has no desire to help you because your letters sound as if they are written by a psychopath. 2. You need to go back to school and learn how to communicate without sounding like a high-school student. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted September 4, 2007 Two points. 1. The manager has no desire to help you because your letters sound as if they are written by a psychopath. 2. You need to go back to school and learn how to communicate without sounding like a high-school student. The manager is a complete focktard who EVERYONE has issues with. For example, I was sitting at the pool a few weeks back, sitting next to a young couple that I hadn't seen around before. They had just moved in and the husband was pointing out to his wife who Bill was. She was like, "THAT's him? The guy who's been a pain in our ass since day one?" I couldn't help but laugh, as I knew exactly where they were coming from. We struck up a conversation based upon our common Bill Is a No-Talent Assclown stories. He has done nothing to help me resolve this issue all this time and I am fed up. He doesn't even listen to the board, who flat-out declared that this woman was not allowed to have her dog do its busines on the balcony...period. Then when she does he tells me there is no incident to address. At this point, I hold out no hope that he will help me. So, I'm going after his sorry ass. I'm taking this sh|t right to the board and am starting to ask the question on everyone's mind...namely, why do we continue to employ someone who acts as if he's an owner and not an employee? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,969 Posted September 4, 2007 Dave, I gotta agree with JK. I was with you when they were dropping dung on your balcony. However, hearing noises and making the conclusion that the dog was pooping above you is pretty questionable. And to demand that something be done based upon that alone really makes you look like someone crying wolf. And what if the lady above you has a covered place for the dog to poop on the balcony, and then cleans that up? So there's no chance of it falling on your balcony. While that may technically be a violation of the rules IMO it would be a perfectly acceptable compromise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted September 4, 2007 Dave, I gotta agree with JK. I was with you when they were dropping dung on your balcony. However, hearing noises and making the conclusion that the dog was pooping above you is pretty questionable. And to demand that something be done based upon that alone really makes you look like someone crying wolf. And what if the lady above you has a covered place for the dog to poop on the balcony, and then cleans that up? So there's no chance of it falling on your balcony. While that may technically be a violation of the rules IMO it would be a perfectly acceptable compromise. Here's the thing... If a dog is pooping, then its pretty likely that its p|ssing too, right? The laws of gravity being what they are, that means that eventually that p|ss tainted runoff/rainwater will eventually make its way onto my property. Also, this isn't the only dog owner who's been posing problems in our building over the past few months. Long time owners (like myself) are getting sick and tired of the filth and utter lack of consideration for the rest of us...not to mention the failure of management to enforce these rules. Of course, if your TV delivery arrives at 4:29pm (last non-UPS/FeEx delivery is allowed at 4:30pm) that lazy fock Bill will turn them away b/c the delivery might run late and he might actually have to stay at work past 5pm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,633 Posted September 4, 2007 I totally agree with JK and Strike on this one. Oh, and the lady who emailed you back and said that she can't report it, because there is nothing to report on. Which is true. You DIDN'T have poop fall on your balcony this time, right? I am starting to really think that you either want these people to get rid of their dog, or move. Until either one of those things happens, you are going to invent things to complain about. I also totally believe that your letters are the suck. Come on, using cuss words, run on sentences, etc...looks horrid. You aren't looking like the bigger person in this arguement, either. They probably get an email from you, and immediately think, "Oh great, it's that focktard davebg in XXX Ct. again. Fock. " Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted September 4, 2007 So, you're mad at him for not enforcing the dog poop rule, and also mad at him for enforcing the no delivery after 4:30 rule? In other words, you're a self-centered nooge? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted September 4, 2007 I totally agree with JK and Strike on this one. Oh, and the lady who emailed you back and said that she can't report it, because there is nothing to report on. Which is true. You DIDN'T have poop fall on your balcony this time, right? I am starting to really think that you either want these people to get rid of their dog, or move. Until either one of those things happens, you are going to invent things to complain about. I also totally believe that your letters are the suck. Come on, using cuss words, run on sentences, etc...looks horrid. You aren't looking like the bigger person in this arguement, either. They probably get an email from you, and immediately think, "Oh great, it's that focktard davebg in XXX Ct. again. Fock. " A few things... 1) As I pointed out, dogs go #1 as well as #2. 2) There are rules...I expect them to be enforced. Not enforcing them has served to embolden other lazy dog owners (at least one other in my bldg) who has left dog crap all over the place over the past few months. 3) The board made a decision...that the people above could not have their dog do its business on the balcony. Who the fock is this EMPLOYEE of the development to decide otherwise? 4) What cuss words? Crap? 5) I'm sure that they do react that way in the office. I can't wait to see what their reaction is when I start calling for him to be replaced. Thankfully, the board members that I know do not share the same mindset as Bill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted September 4, 2007 So, you're mad at him for not enforcing the dog poop rule, and also mad at him for enforcing the no delivery after 4:30 rule?In other words, you're a self-centered nooge? No, that's not it at all. While I am not a huge fan of the 4:30 rule... it is the rule and I abide by it. What I'm saying is that just as that rule is enforced, so too should the other rules. Frankly, I think that keeping our common and private areas sh|t free is a little more important than making sure Fresh Direct doesn't try to drop off tomorrow night's dinner after 4:30. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted September 4, 2007 I'm really trying to understand this. I understand that if the poop dropped into your patio, you'd have something to complain about. But: The dog pooped on HER property. She picked it up. What's your problem? Just because the rules say dogs must be walked outside & owner cleans up after it, doesn't preclude a dog from taking a big ol' chit in the middle of her living room. It's her property. As is HER patio. This particular situation doesn't really seem to strke me as having much merit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted September 4, 2007 So... you heard a door open, the sound of dog tags jingling, something about a plastic bag, the door closed... and created all of this? You truly need help Dave. Also Bill and whoever else was in this thread has you on full "ignore" now. Good luck with that. If I were that neighbor, I'd be focking with Dave right and left. "Collar? Check! Plastic bag? Check! Operation Phantom Poop UNDERWAY!" And, how do you hear a plastic bag crumpling from 20 feet up? What - is she picking up the poop in a empty microwave popcorn bag?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,633 Posted September 4, 2007 Personally, if you are THAT fed up with it, and you're wasting so much time emailing everyone, getting board members replaced, etc. I would look into moving. Part of me also thinks that you thrive on this and other drama in your life. It seems that this dog really didn't do anything wrong, you HONESTLY don't even know if it took a piss in the balcony, do you? You heard the door open etc. And they live TWO flights up, and you HEARD all of this? I don't know...just seems like whenever you get the cahce to ###### about this, you go in, guns blazing. The lady who responded to you was right. NOTHING HAPPENED. You didn't get piss, nor sh!t on your balcony. You were just LOOKING for stuff to complain about. I am afriad that when you go to get the board member removed all of your shouting and foot stomping will fallon deaf ears. You are the "complainer" of the development, I bet...and once you get that title, it's really hard to convince people that you are right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted September 4, 2007 I am considering posting the following note in all of the buildings in the development. I haven't fully decided if I will or not yet and this is only a draft, but in light of some of the comments that I have received, I have tried to elimiate the cursing, fragment/run on sentences and sound less like a crazy person. As some of you may already be aware, there have been some issues in XXX Ct. relating to pets and the manner in which some owners choose to ignore the rules of XX by allowing their animals to do their business wherever they see fit. I have lived here for going on five years and I have never experienced the utter disgust and frustration that I have been feeling for the past nine months or so. For those of you who don’t know, I have had an ongoing dispute with the XXXs in 505 XXX Ct., as they insist upon letting their medium sized dog use their balcony as a toilet. I have had dog poop fall from their balcony onto my patio on numerous occasions. I have lodged a number of complaints with the XXX Health Dept, Bill XXX in management and some of the members of the board. To my knowledge, the residents of 505 XXX Ct. didn’t get much more than a stern talking to. Part of one of those talks, I am told, was a declaration from the board that the residents of 505 XXX Ct. were completely forbidden from taking their dog out on to their balcony to do its business. That directive has not been followed, as the residents of 505 XXX Ct. continue to allow their dog to defecate on their balcony. The difference is that now they don’t leave the dog out there unattended for hours upon hours. Rather, they take the dog out on the balcony, let it do its business and pick it up. Of course, this completely ignores two things: 1) when an animal is pooping it is also very likely peeing and 2) the laws of gravity being what they are, all of that will eventually make its way down onto my property via rain/runoff. I wish I could say that Bill XXX has been helpful in this ordeal, but that would be a lie. On those occasions when there was a fresh pile of poo for Bill to come see, he declined. Then, on other occasions when I insisted that action be taken, Bill declared that since no poo fell onto my property this time that there was nothing he could do. It would seem that I am damned if I do and damned if I don’t with Bill. The latest incident occurred this past Labor Day. As I sat on my patio furniture enjoying dinner with my wife I heard the sliding door of 505 XXX Ct. open, I heard the jingle of the dog’s tags, the rustling of a plastic poop bag, then the dog was let back in and the door shut. I’ve seen and heard them do this on a number of occasions over the past few weeks, but never before while I was actually eating a meal out there. Let me tell you, nothing quite tops off dining al fresco like a dog crapping a couple of floors above your head. When I lodged yet another complaint with management I was told that there was nothing that Bill or his office could do because “the dogs were let out but this did not result in it affecting your balcony in this situation”. I do not know if it is incompetence, indifference or impotence that prevents Bill XXX from enforcing the rules regarding pet ownership here at XX. Maybe it’s just hubris that Bill thinks that he can selectively enforce the rules as he sees fit or ignore decisions that the board has made. What I do know is that in light of the empty threats that have been made in regard to fines, a few pet owners who could care less about the rules would seem to have been emboldened in their behavior. We have all seen it in XXX Ct.; dog poop at the top of the stairs leading to the garage, dog poop right outside the door in the garage, dog poop in the hallways. One of these inconsiderate slobs actually had the nerve to vandalize a copy of the XX rules regarding pets that I had posted on the bulletin board. It would seem that the relative inaction on the part of management has bolstered their courage to do whatever they want (just not enough to take any personal responsibility for their actions.) Maybe instead of asking how Bill can enforce these rules the question that we should be asking is why we continue to offer employment to someone who has repeatedly failed to meet the needs and expectations of this community. If you feel like me or have any questions or comments, please feel free to speak up. Dave XXX 305 XXX Ct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted September 4, 2007 A dog may or may not have pooped 20 feet above me. I'm really upset about it. No, I never saw it, nor did it affect my property in any way, but I'm pretty sure I heard a plastic bag being used - and you know what that means. Therefore, I think Bill should be replaced. Here ya go - Just tightened your language a bit for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted September 4, 2007 I'm really trying to understand this. I understand that if the poop dropped into your patio, you'd have something to complain about. But: The dog pooped on HER property. She picked it up. What's your problem? Just because the rules say dogs must be walked outside & owner cleans up after it, doesn't preclude a dog from taking a big ol' chit in the middle of her living room. It's her property. As is HER patio. This particular situation doesn't really seem to strke me as having much merit. Actually, having her dog poop all over her living room floor was precisely one of the options that the board supposedly gave her. She was told...point blank....she could either walk her dog in the approved areas or she could let it crap all over the inside of her unit, but under no circumstances was she allowed to have her dog do its business on the balcony. Yes, both her living room and her balcony are "her property", but the difference is that nobody else has to deal with it if she keeps it inside...as opposed to on her balcony, which is above two other blaconies and a patio. Below are the rules as posted by the development. I just want the rules enforced. DOING THEIR BUSINESS: Pets MUST be taken into the street. They are not to be walked on the sidewalks or lawns with the EXCEPTION of the lawns on grade level along the North and South ends. They MUST be walked in the pine trees along the exterior of the garage perimeter. Pet owners MUST carry appropriate means by which to clean up after their dog whenever the pet is walked through or on ANY common area. FAILURE TO CARRY SUCH AN ITEM SHALL BE DEEMED A FINABLE VIOLATION OF THIS RULE. If your pet should have an accident in the lobby, elevator, garage or other public area, in spite of your best efforts to prevent this, the pet owner shall clean up the soiled area immediately. This is a responsibility of pet owners, NOT building maintenance. In each instance in which a Resident is in potential violation of Pet rules, a determination shall be made to ascertain whether a finable violation has occurred. The factors used to make this determination include, but are not limited to, the cooperativeness and attitude of the pet owner with respect to the incident, whether the incident appears to be an isolated event or appears to be a continuing pattern, and whether there is a valid reason for the occurrence (for example, the pet is ill). Let's see... Not in a designated area? Check Has the pet owner been cooperative? Negative Is this a continuing pattern? Check Is there a valid reason for the occurrence? Negative (unless you count laziness) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 2,064 Posted September 4, 2007 I am getting more and more convinced you are a lying douche-bag. You claim to make millions of dollars, live in the biggest mansion in all of FFToday land have 10 inch cack etc etc etc.. Yet you consistently show very little class. Much less class than someone of your supposed socio-economic level would display. You have a condo complex where multiple owners let their dogs pee and poop all over the place, to such a degree that you worry about stepping in it when you leave our place. This sounds like a development in the hood. You are just not credible. Those letters you wrote to the manager were childish, unintelligent, and simply poorly done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted September 4, 2007 Actually, having her dog poop all over her living room floor was precisely one of the options that the board supposedly gave her. She was told...point blank....she could either walk her dog in the approved areas or she could let it crap all over the inside of her unit, but under no circumstances was she allowed to have her dog do its business on the balcony. Yes, both her living room and her balcony are "her property", but the difference is that nobody else has to deal with it if she keeps it inside...as opposed to on her balcony, which is above two other blaconies and a patio. Below are the rules as posted by the development. I just want the rules enforced. Let's see... Not in a designated area? Check Has the pet owner been cooperative? Negative Is this a continuing pattern? Check Is there a valid reason for the occurrence? Negative (unless you count laziness) I read those rules. I don't see anywhere in those rules anything precluding the dog from pooping on her private property. Do you? It just talks about where the dogs can poop once they ARE off private property. If they told her it couldn't poop on the balcony, that's clearly outside of the written rules you all agreed upon. - There you might have an argument in getting what they told her codified. But without it being codified, you don't seem to have much to stand on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted September 4, 2007 Personally, if you are THAT fed up with it, and you're wasting so much time emailing everyone, getting board members replaced, etc. I would look into moving.I am not selling my home and moving b/c of this slob. It seems that this dog really didn't do anything wrongYou're right, the dog didn't do anythng wrong and I do not blame the dog...I blame the ownersthey live TWO flights up, and you HEARD all of this?Yes, I was out on my patio. It's not very hard to hear that from there. We're out on a pier, so it's pretty quiet...no noise from the street.You were just LOOKING for stuff to complain about.I was LOOKING to enjoy some burgers that I grilled out on my patio. I am afriad that when you go to get the board member removedI am not complaining about a board member. I am complaining about the non-resident, non-property owner who was hired to run the management office and supposedly enforce the rules of the development. You are the "complainer" of the development, I bet...and once you get that title, it's really hard to convince people that you are right.Actually, there are many more complainers in my development...who complain much more loudly about much more stoopid stuff than I. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,633 Posted September 4, 2007 Dave, try this one instead. As some of you may already be aware, there have been some issues in XXX Ct. relating to pets and the manner in which some owners allow their animals to do their business wherever they see fit. After living here for five years, I have never experienced the utter disgust and frustration that I have been feeling for the past nine months. There has been an ongoing issue with the XXXs in 505 XXX Ct., as they insist upon letting their medium sized dog use their balcony as a toilet. I have had dog feces fall from their balcony onto my patio on numerous occasions. I have lodged a number of complaints with the XXX Health Dept, Bill XXX in management and some of the members of the board. I was informed that as s result of the complaints, the board has a declaration that the residents of 505 XXX Ct. are forbidden from taking their dog out on to their balcony to do its business. That directive has not been followed, as the residents of 505 XXX Ct. continue to allow their dog to defecate on their balcony. Although the animal is not left unattended for many hours, they take the dog out on the balcony, let it do its business and pick it up. While this might be a compromise of the declaration by the board, two things are overlooked; 1) when an animal is pooping it is also very likely peeing and 2) the laws of gravity being what they are, all of that will eventually make its way down onto my property via rain/runoff. I have offered on several occasions to provide proof to Bill that there has been dog excrement on my patio, which he declined needing to see. I have requested that action be taken, and was told that since there wasn’t any excrement on my patio at the time of the complain, there was nothing that he would be able to do. The latest incident occurred this past Labor Day. As I sat on my patio furniture enjoying dinner with my wife I heard the sliding door of 505 XXX Ct. open, I heard the jingle of the dog’s tags, the rustling of a plastic bag, then the dog was let back in and the door shut. I’ve seen and heard them do this on a number of occasions over the past few weeks, but never before while I was actually eating a meal out there. I feel as though it’s almost impossible to enjoy my balcony, especially during a meal. When I lodged yet another complaint with management I was told that there was nothing that Bill or his office could do because “the dogs were let out but this did not result in it affecting your balcony in this situation”. I am feeling as though the declaration and other rules regarding pet ownership are not being enforced here at XX. The board has made decisions that pertain to ALL of the residents here who make a choice to have pets. There have been threats in regards to fining pet owners, and those threats run empty. While there are some pet owners who do not care about the rules, non-pet owners should not be subjected to their carelessness. Dog feces have been found at the top of the stairs, leading into garages, right outside the door to a garage, and in the hallways. It’s very inconsiderate, and not to mention a health issue. The lack of action from the management board has perhaps given these pet owners the feeling that they can vandalize complaints and requests left on the bulletin board, as well as have the courage to not follow the rules and/or not pick up after their animals. If you feel like me or have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact me. Dave XXX 305 XXX Ct. You seem VERY insistent on making Bill look like a fool. Dont' do this, you're only sabotaging yourself...and Bill could be one who says, "Fock off, punk..." and starts just ignoring you. Commenting on the rain/runoff of urine is kind of asinine. You really do need to calm down your letters a little, take out words like "poop" and things like that. Stop calling out Bill and his lack of action... Of course, all of this is just my opinion but i do think that if you were more mature about the situation, you might get a bit further than you all ready are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted September 4, 2007 I am getting more and more convinced you are a lying douche-bag.You claim to make millions of dollars, live in the biggest mansion in all of FFToday land have 10 inch cack etc etc etc.. Link? I make six figs, live in a 2BR condo on the Hudson and am sad to report that I do not have a 10 inch cawk. Yet you consistently show very little class. Much less class than someone of your supposed socio-economic level would display.In my experience when "nice" fails it's time to get "nasty". You have a condo complex where multiple owners let their dogs pee and poop all over the place, to such a degree that you worry about stepping in it when you leave our place. This sounds like a development in the hood.You're right, it does. That's why I and others in my building are getting so p|ssed off. It has only been like this over the past nine months or so. There are many dogs in our building and many of those long time resident dog owners are just as fed up as I am b/c they do follow the rules and know that it is likely one or two bad apples. You are just not credible. Those letters you wrote to the manager were childish, unintelligent, and simply poorly done.Hence my attempt to craft a better letter should I decide to post it all over the place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted September 4, 2007 Dave, try this one instead. You seem VERY insistent on making Bill look like a fool. Dont' do this, you're only sabotaging yourself...and Bill could be one who says, "Fock off, punk..." and starts just ignoring you. Commenting on the rain/runoff of urine is kind of asinine. You really do need to calm down your letters a little, take out words like "poop" and things like that. Stop calling out Bill and his lack of action... Of course, all of this is just my opinion but i do think that if you were more mature about the situation, you might get a bit further than you all ready are. Thanks. Some of your suggestions were pretty good and will definitely make their way into my letter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted September 4, 2007 Actually, there are many more complainers in my development...who complain much more loudly about much more stoopid stuff than I. I have nothing but pity for Bill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davebg 0 Posted September 4, 2007 I have nothing but pity for Bill. I used to feel the same way. I could never understand how everyone...and I mean EVERYONE...had a story about what a miserable pr|ck he was. Then this whole mess w/the kunt upstairs started and I realized that they were right all along...I had just not had the "pleasure" of butting heads w/him prior to that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted September 4, 2007 I read those rules. I don't see anywhere in those rules anything precluding the dog from pooping on her private property. Do you? It just talks about where the dogs can poop once they ARE off private property. If they told her it couldn't poop on the balcony, that's clearly outside of the written rules you all agreed upon. - There you might have an argument in getting what they told her codified. But without it being codified, you don't seem to have much to stand on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted September 4, 2007 Dave, have you noticed that no one ever takes your side? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted September 4, 2007 Dave has also sent a VERY terse missive to the Audubon Society threatening legal action if birds don't stop poopering whilst over his property! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites