jman316 0 Posted April 22, 2008 Sorry no link yet, but local sports radio (and John Clayton) is reporting that Shaun Alexander will be released today. How quickly he has fallen since his MVP season of '05. The question is, where will he end up? If he lands somewhere with a decent o-line and IF he can stay healthy (big IF), I see him having a few more years of moderate success. However, the real question is, will people still draft him in the first 10 rounds of a redraft? Chances are, if he's in the right situation he'll be a late round steal in most drafts. Best of luck Shaun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted April 22, 2008 where does he end up?? In church. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jman316 0 Posted April 22, 2008 In church...no doubt. Seriously though, maybe Detriot or Cincy. Although, I can't see him having much success in either place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 550 Posted April 22, 2008 http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/footbal...from=blog_last3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 848 Posted April 22, 2008 Seriously though, maybe Detriot or Cincy. Although, I can't see him having much success in either place. I wouldnt mind detroit, especially if it allows them to draft an OL or DL in the first round instead of Mendenhall or some other skill position player. He may be close to being washed up, but if they can get two years out of him that would be ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Moz 69 Posted April 22, 2008 If Houston could get him at a great price I think he could have a solid season there -- maybe Denver as well ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted April 22, 2008 I think he goes to a team that needs a blocking/goal line back. What offenses have below average 3rd down backs. Norwood is a terrible blocker, making atlanta a possibility. Carolina will have young runners on their roster, and i dont know how good of blocker williams is. Da bears if benson's injury is as bad as what some prognosis are. Lions have no depth at RB Dallas if they dont draft a RB in the first 2 rounds will need a 3rd down back. Houston they might have to overhaul their runningbacks in the offseason, and SA would be a better #2 than anyone on their roster. Chargers, if they feal that noles cant protect Rivers enough, although i doubt this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted April 22, 2008 SA couldn't have a solid season in the XFL if it were still around. Guy ran soft in Seattle when he set the rushing TD record, he just had an allworld line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted April 22, 2008 SA couldn't have a solid season in the XFL if it were still around. Guy ran soft in Seattle when he set the rushing TD record, he just had an allworld line. You obviously don't watch Seattle games. Go check the Hawks conversion rate on 3rd and short and 4th and short that year. You don't convert that % by running "soft." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted April 22, 2008 You obviously don't watch Seattle games. Go check the Hawks conversion rate on 3rd and short and 4th and short that year. You don't convert that % by running "soft." Oh, I've watched a couple...one in particular. And yes, you do convert them when your line has obliterated everything in your path and you don't get hit until 3 yrds into a 3rd and 4. I'm not knocking your team (this time). I'm saying lots of backs would have had good stats running behind that line...hell, I prolly woulda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ras66not99 0 Posted April 22, 2008 You obviously don't watch Seattle games. Go check the Hawks conversion rate on 3rd and short and 4th and short that year. You don't convert that % by running "soft." cmon now... I know you're a homer, but admit the guy is soft ~~SOFT~~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pittnthat 0 Posted April 22, 2008 He should go to Cincinnati with Rocky Bernard. Put Shaun at fullback and Rocky behind him at half back. Just have Rocky threaten to punch Shaun's wife before every handoff if Mr. soft doesn't run hard. That should be a good for 1500 yards and 10 T.D.'S, right? Rocky does have a talent with the ladies. Now how did Flahawker phrase this about a month ago---Dummy up Seahawk nation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted April 22, 2008 cmon now... I know you're a homer, but admit the guy is soft ~~SOFT~~ Soft enough to accumulate 10,940 yards and 112 TDs over a 7 year career with the Hawks. I'll take that "soft" production from a RB over a 7 year span any day of the week. And I just love how guys sitting behind a desk call an NFL RB soft. Was he Earl Campbell? Not even close, but the guy produced when healthy. The guy was a great Seahawk and I wish him well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted April 22, 2008 Damn. Didn't he just get a HUGE contract in like '06 or something??? ETA: And would LOVE to see him in either Denver or Houston. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted April 22, 2008 You obviously don't watch Seattle games. Go check the Hawks conversion rate on 3rd and short and 4th and short that year. You don't convert that % by running "soft." I remember Shaun ###### Alexander on his azz behind the LOS twice on crucial 3rd and/or 4th and shorts in the playoff game against the Bears. Keep your homer schtick going though....it is very funny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sweetness_34 0 Posted April 22, 2008 Soft enough to accumulate 10,940 yards and 112 TDs over a 7 year career with the Hawks. I'll take that "soft" production from a RB over a 7 year span any day of the week. And I just love how guys sitting behind a desk call an NFL RB soft. Was he Earl Campbell? Not even close, but the guy produced when healthy. The guy was a great Seahawk and I wish him well. This is funny. Almost every Seahag fan hates Shaun A and are rejoicing his release. Obviously you do not listen to the boos in the stadium....I live in the NW; I have seen a lot of hate for SA the last 2 years ... keep spinning though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted April 22, 2008 Oh, I've watched a couple...one in particular. And yes, you do convert them when your line has obliterated everything in your path and you don't get hit until 3 yrds into a 3rd and 4. I'm not knocking your team (this time). I'm saying lots of backs would have had good stats running behind that line...hell, I prolly woulda. I figured that would be your ignorant response. So the guy's talent was nada and the 10,940 yards and 112 TDs in his career was all due to his line. In fact, given the same line your saying even a guy like JJ Arrington would have put up those #s? JG clueless once again You and all the rest of us on this bored couldn't carry SA's jock in terms of athletic ability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted April 22, 2008 This is funny. Almost every Seahag fan hates Shaun A and are rejoicing his release. Obviously you do not listen to the boos in the stadium....I live in the NW; I have seen a lot of hate for SA the last 2 years ... keep spinning though I tell ya what. I'll repsond to your points when you give the link to the article that you claims states the Hawks were going to fire Holmgren. Until then have a big glass of STFU Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted April 22, 2008 I remember Shaun ###### Alexander on his azz behind the LOS twice on crucial 3rd and/or 4th and shorts in the playoff game against the Bears. Keep your homer schtick going though....it is very funny The same game that a supposed washed up SA had a 120 total yards and 2 TDs? What does that for your D? Not much as Peyotn exposed Ulracher's jock in the SB and showed the Bears for what they were--pretenders! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted April 22, 2008 I figured that would be your ignorant response. So the guy's talent was nada and the 10,940 yards and 112 TDs in his career was all due to his line. In fact, given the same line your saying even a guy like JJ Arrington would have put up those #s? JG clueless once again You and all the rest of us on this bored couldn't carry SA's jock in terms of athletic ability. Look at the great production MoMo had in when SA wasnt playing, you are wrong Flahawker, oh thats right, MoMo sucked behind that line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlaHawker 24 Posted April 22, 2008 He should go to Cincinnati with Rocky Bernard. Put Shaun at fullback and Rocky behind him at half back. Just have Rocky threaten to punch Shaun's wife before every handoff if Mr. soft doesn't run hard. That should be a good for 1500 yards and 10 T.D.'S, right? Rocky does have a talent with the ladies.Now how did Flahawker phrase this about a month ago---Dummy up Seahawk nation. Do you mean lady? Or ladies? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Groundhog 24 Posted April 22, 2008 This is funny. Almost every Seahag fan hates Shaun A and are rejoicing his release. Obviously you do not listen to the boos in the stadium....I live in the NW; I have seen a lot of hate for SA the last 2 years ... keep spinning though There are idiots in every city who are from the "what have you done for me lately" school of fandom. Christ, people in Boston were calling into sports radio shows last week demanding Big Papi's head on a platter because he's started off hitting around .100 this season instead of his usual .300. Like that team would have won the series against the Yanks in 2004, much less the World Series, without his clutch hits. Similarly, the Seahawks don't win the NFC in 2005 without SA converting all those 3rd-and-short and 4th-and-short situations (because whoever they replaced him with, back in 2005, simply wouldn't have been as good. Even in 2005. IMHO.) Sure he fell off a cliff the last two years. Lots of RBs with too much wear on the tires see big declines. The loss of Hutch and the aging of Walter Jones didn't help matters either. But I would bet you that most of the SA haters either drafted him too high in their fantasy leagues (and were never Hawks fans to begin with) or let that wasted draft pick color their thinking about him as Hawks fans. SA was a great RB for a number of years. While it's obvious that they need new blood at RB, the real fans appreciate what the guy brought to the table every week through 2005 and I'm not going to wish ill on him just because Father Time took its toll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ras66not99 0 Posted April 22, 2008 Soft enough to accumulate 10,940 yards and 112 TDs over a 7 year career with the Hawks. I'll take that "soft" production from a RB over a 7 year span any day of the week. And I just love how guys sitting behind a desk call an NFL RB soft. Was he Earl Campbell? Not even close, but the guy produced when healthy. The guy was a great Seahawk and I wish him well. Relax big guy.... I don't sit behind a desk all day....my hands have dirt on them after a days work if it makes ya feel better, but that doesn't change the fact that SA was soft..... Look the guy was a solid Rb in terms of production, I never said he wasn't.... but anyone who watched the guy saw he ran like a puss... the way he ran the ball was SOFT!!!! always shying away from contact, weeble wobbling out of bounds instead of going for the extra yard, things of that nature.... that's all i'm saying... I refer to him as the tenderfoot biotch, (always have).... a perfect name if ya ask me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,370 Posted April 22, 2008 Dear Seahawks, Good luck with Julius Jones, MMo, and TJ Duckett and without Shaun Alexander. Because Luck is what you're going to need with that group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eagles Green 34 Posted April 22, 2008 Wherever he goes, I'm sure he'll be listed as questionable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted April 22, 2008 I figured that would be your ignorant response. So the guy's talent was nada and the 10,940 yards and 112 TDs in his career was all due to his line. In fact, given the same line your saying even a guy like JJ Arrington would have put up those #s? JG clueless once again You and all the rest of us on this bored couldn't carry SA's jock in terms of athletic ability. No, I'm not saying that at all. And I love how you take what someone says and stretch it out to it's most extreme point that can still just slightly maintain relevance. There's a difference between his talent and his heart. For several years he ran behind a very good line, with at least 2 great players on in Hutch and Jones. And what happened to him the moment that line lost continuity? Yup, his #'s dropped drastically. No, I don't put JJ Arrington on the same level as SA, but it's not inconceivable to think he could have been productive behind that killer line, or that lots of different backs could. It's the same differentiation I make between the runner with the highest career yardage mark, Emmitt Smith, and the best runner of his day, and perhaps all time, Barry Sanders. I'll stand by the argument that Barry, in Emmitt's offense, would have had probably 10% more yards than Emmitt. You put Emmitt in Barry's shoes and he doesn't even approach the #'s he had. It was all about that team around him. And SA had a whale of a line plowing for him. JJ Arrington doesn't. I watched SA, especially toward the latter part of his career (particularly after he banked in that bigass contract) fall down on hits that much lesser backs would have run through. But keep ruby slippers on there Dorothy, if you keep repeating your wish I'm sure sooner or later it will come true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mggoilers 0 Posted April 22, 2008 Dallas and Philly seem like good fits. I also like Carolina as a fit for Alexander. The guy has a ton of natural ability, but he might actually have to put in some work. his days of coasting on talent are over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J-Money 4 Posted April 22, 2008 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3361271 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted April 22, 2008 steelers Yeah right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9-Route 0 Posted April 22, 2008 i think if he can resolve his health issues (wrist surgery), he still has 1-2 yrs left in his tank, depending upon the situation he lands. a team with a solid o-line and a "plug-and-chug" system (ie dallas, denver, indy) where he can use his talents of hole recognition and goalline savvy to be a contributor may be a nice fit. the consensus of his play the past 2 seasons, that he did not run with the same authority and confidence as his previous 4-5 stellar production seasons, whether it be due to injury, contract resolution, or decrease of peripheral talent, are reasonable. as far as his career marks, there is no doubt he is climbing lofty territory: he already has ~9500 rush yds with 100 rush TDs (tied for like 7th). if he can accrue another 1000yds, he would roughly hit the top20, and 11 TDs would move him into the top4 all-time behind emmitt, marcus, and tomlinson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Killfish 0 Posted April 23, 2008 he already has ~9500 rush yds with 100 rush TDs (tied for like 7th). if he can accrue another 1000yds, he would roughly hit the top20, and 11 TDs would move him into the top4 all-time behind emmitt, marcus, and tomlinson. Hard to look past these career numbers no matter how he looked racking them up. I see it this way, Shaun's greatest attribute is his vision, and his ability to react and use his blocking. One of the best ever at this. He was basically a 225 pound scat back who could never break a tackle, but sure could get the most out of a well blocked play. Seattle no longer has the line play to set up openings that would allow Shaun to utilize his best (only) asset. They are now in need of a more traditional NFL RB who can make something out of nothing, and create on his own extra yardage. Not sure if Jules Jones is that guy though. In my opinion he is a smaller, faster version of Alexander himself, minus the tremendous vision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pimptastic69 0 Posted April 23, 2008 In church...no doubt. Seriously though, maybe Detriot or Cincy. Although, I can't see him having much success in either place. It would not surprise me to see him sign with the Bungles. He's local, somewhat likeable, and Lewis says they will be more committed to the run this year. The Bungles are certainly short on good guys. However, we don't need 2 Rudi Johnsons. That 2 yards and a cloud of dust crap gets old real fast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p00h 85 Posted April 23, 2008 Relax big guy.... I don't sit behind a desk all day....my hands have dirt on them after a days work if it makes ya feel better, but that doesn't change the fact that SA was soft..... Look the guy was a solid Rb in terms of production, I never said he wasn't.... but anyone who watched the guy saw he ran like a puss... the way he ran the ball was SOFT!!!! always shying away from contact, weeble wobbling out of bounds instead of going for the extra yard, things of that nature.... that's all i'm saying... I refer to him as the tenderfoot biotch, (always have).... a perfect name if ya ask me this thread is full of retards, which is to be expected for this website, but this one takes the cake. always shying away from contact, weeble wobbling out of bounds instead of going for the extra yard, things of that nature.... that's all i'm saying... Marvin Harrison shies away from contact each and every play, does that make him 'soft'?!? Maybe. Does it change the fact that he's one of the best to ever have played the game?!? Well I'm not going to sit here trying to convince retards of anything. The life of a rb is not about being 'hard' or running over people. WHether he shied away from hits, went head on, this that blahblahblah. The bottom line is the numbers he has put up over the duration. And if you think any joe schmoe would have got the same numbers behind that same line over that duration of time, you are dumber than you let on. All of you. I'm a jets fan that lives in NJ, so no homerism there, but if you don't believe he's not only been one of the top rbs during the duration of his career, if not one of the top rbs in the history of the game, you are pure idiot... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted April 23, 2008 Lol @ all the morons that couldn't figure out he got his big pay day, and he's mailing it in now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted April 23, 2008 Hard to look past these career numbers no matter how he looked racking them up. I see it this way, Shaun's greatest attribute is his vision, and his ability to react and use his blocking. One of the best ever at this. He was basically a 225 pound scat back who could never break a tackle, but sure could get the most out of a well blocked play. Seattle no longer has the line play to set up openings that would allow Shaun to utilize his best (only) asset. They are now in need of a more traditional NFL RB who can make something out of nothing, and create on his own extra yardage. Not sure if Jules Jones is that guy though. In my opinion he is a smaller, faster version of Alexander himself, minus the tremendous vision. This is just liberal propoganda for "his line made big holes, when those holes weren't there, he couldn't utilize his asset (the wide open holes) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
culboarder11 0 Posted April 23, 2008 I remember Shaun ###### Alexander on his azz behind the LOS twice on crucial 3rd and/or 4th and shorts in the playoff game against the Bears. Keep your homer schtick going though....it is very funny Ok guy. He was stopped on 3rd and 4th downs because everyone on the defense knew what was coming. This was the 1st year without Hutch and their interior line play was rediculous. I seem to remember him carving up a damn good statline vs the vaunted Bears D in Chicago though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philly_fakeout 0 Posted April 23, 2008 Look at the great production MoMo had in when SA wasnt playing, you are wrong Flahawker, oh thats right, MoMo sucked behind that line. I felt like whenever Maurice Morris had a big game it was because of just a few big runs, then sub-par beyond that. When Shaun wasn't in the defense was looking for a pass so Morris threw them off, IMO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites