Green Bay Coach and GM

[BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0]

And you...are wrong. Can you find for me another #1 draft pick QB who didn't get the same deal in scale? No? Then your point is: STUPID.

 

Tell me: if it's "no big deal" to grab "one of 6 NFL quality" QBs in the draft: which one is going to work out to be better than Rodgers?

 

HM?

 

If you cannot do that, you lose. Your points are rebuked. Favre is not a better than Rodgers at this point in his career.

 

To Sho Nuff and Mensa.

 

First if your definition of success is "not seriously contending" as they haven't for the 5 seasons since they drafted Rodgers well then it's the most successful trade ever. But leave no doubt, they have not seriously contended since they drafted Rodgers. I'll leave it to others to determine what is successful based on their own standards.

 

Mensa you are right, obviously 1st round QB's get big money, Arron Rodgers is a stud, he will be a stud for Green Bay going forward. But I'm right also, they haven't won, they haven't consistently gone to the playoffs and they haven't been a serious contender since they drafted Rodgers. Thus I ask why is Minnesota suddenly a contender but Green Bay wasn't with Favre? Hmmmmm....

 

It's a HUGE deal to grab a top QB and most teams want to grab one when they can. But for some teams the time isn't right. It would be dumb as crap for the Patriots, Colts, Packers, Saints, Chargers to draft Claussen, McCoy or Tebow in the 1st round this year. They have more pressing needs and 2 (Indy/NE), probably 4 (SD/NO) of those cases they have a HOF QB already. Just like Green Bay had a Hall of Fame QB at the time who haf a lot more in the tank.

 

I'd like to know your thoughts on Luis Castillo, Heath Miller and Logan Mankins. Stud players on three of the dominant teams in the NFL over the last 5 years. They were available but do you think they were areas of need for GB? Would they have helped Green Bay like they've helped those teams?

 

To me the point is not how great Arron Rodgers, that's a really simple and linear way to look at. For a Mensa member I would hope you could think in a more chaotic/hyper fashion. GB could have kept Favre, drafted around him, signed free agents and waited until Flacco, Ryan, Stafford, and QB to be named later came out. They would have had a down year or two but they've already had 5 with the way they handled things.

 

I can see the argument that I'm wrong. I can't prove the trade was a failure because there is a lot to be determined. Rodgers might win a Super Bowl, I can't predict the future. But at least I have 5 years of nothing since the trade.

 

What I will not concede is that this trade has been a success. There is no logic behind calling this trade a success because there isn't anything you can show to prove it was the right move. Arron Rodgers throwing a bunch of TDs for a bunch of yards for one season doesn't make it a success. When he wins something I'll agree with you. Until then 99.99 percent of the free world still think Favre is better.

 

I have said it before, I'll say it again.

 

Brett Favre and Minnesota are going to beat Green Bay again, for the 3rd time this season and eliminate them from the playoffs. It's not personal. I'm sure to watch for you when it happens but you won't post when it does. I can tell that's the kind of guys you both are.

[Sho Nuff 720]

To Sho Nuff and Mensa.

 

First if your definition of success is "not seriously contending" as they haven't for the 5 seasons since they drafted Rodgers well then it's the most successful trade ever.

 

Im just going to ignore the rest of your crap because of idiotic repeated statements about 5 years.

2007, OT in the NFC title game, got beat by the eventual SB champs.

If that is not seriously contending, I don't know what is.

 

You sir, are a freaking total and complete moron.

[BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0]

Im just going to ignore the rest of your crap because of idiotic repeated statements about 5 years.

2007, OT in the NFC title game, got beat by the eventual SB champs.

If that is not seriously contending, I don't know what is.

 

You sir, are a freaking total and complete moron.

 

 

You are the worlds toughest internet tough guy. You would choose Sho Nuff, the punk got his ass handed to him in the Last Dragon by Bruce Leroy.

 

Boston, look me up when you visit, I'll karate slap you back into the 80's whence you came. See that now I'm an internet tough guy just like you!

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

You are the worlds toughest internet tough guy. You would choose Sho Nuff, the punk got his ass handed to him in the Last Dragon by Bruce Leroy.

 

Boston, look me up when you visit, I'll karate slap you back into the 80's whence you came. See that now I'm an internet tough guy just like you!

 

shonuff only made his hands glow. Bruce leroy had the glow on his entire body. That is what made leroy the real master and shonuff a pretender.

[Bruce_Leroy 0]

an entire thread of packer fans hyping up rodgers. Who has the guy played? On the real, who have the pack played? Name one legit contender?

[Sho Nuff 720]

You are the worlds toughest internet tough guy. You would choose Sho Nuff, the punk got his ass handed to him in the Last Dragon by Bruce Leroy.

 

Boston, look me up when you visit, I'll karate slap you back into the 80's whence you came. See that now I'm an internet tough guy just like you!

 

Funny...all I did was call you a moron for repeating a complete and total lie....you threaten crap about coming to Boston...yup, you are the internet tough guy.

And still a moron who knows little about football.

 

You sir are no Bruce Leroy.

[Sho Nuff 720]

an entire thread of packer fans hyping up rodgers. Who has the guy played? On the real, who have the pack played? Name one legit contender?

 

Pretty sure you have read very little of the thread if you think its packer fans just hyping up Rodgers.

[donhaas 18]

I disagree with the premise of this thread.... I think TT and MM have done a pretty good job.... Yes, there will be growing pains when you have the youngest team in the league for the last four years, but I think they stuck through those growing pains and you are now seeing the fruits of that....

 

I still think they are a year or two away, but the future looks very bright.....

 

The person who started this thread's management traded away Kyle Orton and a first and a third rounder and another first rounder for an interception machine... (Even today.... Woodson should have had 2 more; Collins should have had another one..... 3 balls right in their hands from Cutler).....

 

 

I think that is some cruel irony.....

 

 

9-4 > 5-8

[donhaas 18]

Just checking in to see where we are at right now.....

 

Rodgers 400 yards, 3 TDS; another 20-some yards and a TD rushing against the world champs in a key game....

Marched the team down the field for the gamewinning TD in the clutch (although it can be argued that he did it to well, too fast)

 

Favre : Completely sucking it up against crapass Carolina.... getting benched in the third quarter up 7-6... wilting in December..... complaining, crying to the media.....

 

getting crushed by a crapass team when they should be on the stretch drive and fine-tuning things... 26-7

 

 

Let me do a re-check of ages:

Favre still 40

Rodgers now 26 (had a birthday!)......

 

 

[donhaas 18]

[Blue_Star_Wrecking_Crew 0]

Just checking in to see where we are at right now.....

 

Rodgers 400 yards, 3 TDS; another 20-some yards and a TD rushing against the world champs in a key game....

Marched the team down the field for the gamewinning TD in the clutch (although it can be argued that he did it to well, too fast)

 

Favre : Completely sucking it up against crapass Carolina.... getting benched in the third quarter up 7-6... wilting in December..... complaining, crying to the media.....

 

getting crushed by a crapass team when they should be on the stretch drive and fine-tuning things... 26-7

Let me do a re-check of ages:

Favre still 40

Rodgers now 26 (had a birthday!)......

 

 

what are the team records this year?

[Blue_Star_Wrecking_Crew 0]

Pretty sure you have read very little of the thread if you think its packer fans just hyping up Rodgers.

The one thing that bothers me about Rodgers is that he can't play nor win the big games..

 

The man was 0-7 in game winning drives last year Shocked Shocked Shocked ...

 

He could light it up but when you most need him he goes M.I.A, hate on Favre Cheese crust but the man was clutch.

 

I also don't get how the Packers make up every excuse in the book for this guy. IOur defense played bad, o it was cold, Jennings drop the ball, the sun was in his eye, the turf wasn't even, it was too windy, the line played bad, the opposing defense is top 10, the crowd was too loud, the stock market crashed, of course i might have exaggerated the o-line one Wink ..

 

The men can't close yet! I'm not saying he won't but as of now he's a choker.

[Sho Nuff 720]

The one thing that bothers me about Rodgers is that he can't play nor win the big games..

 

The man was 0-7 in game winning drives last year Shocked Shocked Shocked ...

 

He could light it up but when you most need him he goes M.I.A, hate on Favre Cheese crust but the man was clutch.

 

I also don't get how the Packers make up every excuse in the book for this guy. IOur defense played bad, o it was cold, Jennings drop the ball, the sun was in his eye, the turf wasn't even, it was too windy, the line played bad, the opposing defense is top 10, the crowd was too loud, the stock market crashed, of course i might have exaggerated the o-line one Wink ..

 

The men can't close yet! I'm not saying he won't but as of now he's a choker.

 

He can't play in them?

So to you, he would have become a better QB had the defense stopped Big Ben Sunday?

Something totally out of his control?

Are you kidding.

As for making excuses...focking hilarious coming from the guy shoved so far up Romo's ass you know what he had for every meal of the last week.

Too funny.

He closed just fine Sunday...but Im sure not even that is good enough for you, and never will.

[Blue_Star_Wrecking_Crew 0]

He can't play in them?

So to you, he would have become a better QB had the defense stopped Big Ben Sunday?

Something totally out of his control?

Are you kidding.

As for making excuses...focking hilarious coming from the guy shoved so far up Romo's ass you know what he had for every meal of the last week.

Too funny.

He closed just fine Sunday...but Im sure not even that is good enough for you, and never will.

 

Please name one big game aaron rodgers has won as a starter?

[donhaas 18]

Please name one big game aaron rodgers has won as a starter?

 

 

He clobbered your Dallas Lions just a few weeks ago! HAHAHAHAHA

 

 

Pimpdaddy FAIL! :pointstosky:

[Blue_Star_Wrecking_Crew 0]

He clobbered your Dallas Lions just a few weeks ago! HAHAHAHAHA

Pimpdaddy FAIL! :pointstosky:

yet dallas has the same record as the pack and dallas will win a division and thus be a higher seed. So a rod plays D? the d won that game

[Sho Nuff 720]

Please name one big game aaron rodgers has won as a starter?

 

Beat the crap out of your Cowboys pimp.

[Sho Nuff 720]

yet dallas has the same record as the pack and dallas will win a division and thus be a higher seed. So a rod plays D? the d won that game

 

Didn't you just claim Packer fans make excuses for him.

You asked for a big win...and your Boys are so great according to you.

 

And so the D won that game according to you...but somehow Rodgers lost the Steelers one on his own right?

 

Funny, you want to use an excuse, but don't think anyone else should be able to.

Seriously, you have become the biggest troll moron on this board...congrats.

[Blue_Star_Wrecking_Crew 0]

Beat the crap out of your Cowboys pimp.

 

 

 

 

he had 189 yards and 1 Td. How is that beating a team?

 

 

P.S. I love the bucs

 

they have their only two wins over my hated teams

 

GB 28 @ TB 38

[Joey Gladstone 33]

he had 189 yards and 1 Td. How is that beating a team?

P.S. I love the bucs

 

they have their only two wins over my hated teams

 

GB 28 @ TB 38

 

So a Buc's alias is right around the corner?

[Sho Nuff 720]

he had 189 yards and 1 Td. How is that beating a team?

P.S. I love the bucs

 

they have their only two wins over my hated teams

 

GB 28 @ TB 38

 

Also ran in a TD.

But Those 2 TDs were more than Romo could muster.

 

Your hated teams?

Awesome...so you, and all of your alias's are obsessed with the Packers and Seahawks.

We already knew that.

[Blue_Star_Wrecking_Crew 0]

Also ran in a TD.

But Those 2 TDs were more than Romo could muster.

 

Your hated teams?

Awesome...so you, and all of your alias's are obsessed with the Packers and Seahawks.

We already knew that.

the greatness of this year's playoffs is that dallas gets either green bay or philly in the first round. gonna be great wrecking one of these hated teams.

 

Rodgers is developing a nice little december record himself. if anyone cared about rodgers there might be a thread about it but lets get real. No one outside the bay thinks much about your small market team.

[Sho Nuff 720]

the greatness of this year's playoffs is that dallas gets either green bay or philly in the first round. gonna be great wrecking one of these hated teams.

 

Rodgers is developing a nice little december record himself. if anyone cared about rodgers there might be a thread about it but lets get real. No one outside the bay thinks much about your small market team.

 

Dallas may not even get there.

Rodgers is not concerned with just his December record. Nor am I.

Nor has he just folded like Romo has in the past.

 

Nobody thinks much of the team?

You are pretty funny.

[donhaas 18]

Back on topic:

 

Dumb (from Dumb and Dumber)

 

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/79903027.html

 

Thompson nets team a class of keepers

Matthews, Jones stand out; Raji, Lang progressing

By Rob Reischel, Special to Packer Plus

Posted: Dec. 23, 2009 5:34 a.m.

 

Green Bay — Maybe bigger doesn't always mean better.

 

Packer general manager Ted Thompson had just eight picks during April's NFL draft, the fewest in his five drafts. But this certainly appears to be one of the best drafts Thompson will have conducted in Green Bay.

 

Thompson made his boldest move as Green Bay's general manager by trading away three picks for New England's first-round draft choice. Thompson then used that pick to select outside linebacker Clay Matthews, a front-runner for defensive rookie of the year honors.

 

Seventh-round draft choice Brad Jones has started the past month and could be the long term answer at the outside linebacker position opposite Matthews. First-round nose tackle B.J. Raji, fourth-round offensive lineman T.J. Lang and fifth-round fullback Quinn Johnson also figure to be future starters, perhaps all as soon as next year.

 

Fifth-round offensive tackle Jamon Meredith didn't make the team, while sixth-round defensive end Jarius Wynn and sixth-round cornerback Brandon Underwood remain projects. Overall, though, the class has been a hit and is a big reason why the Packers are 9-5 and in the hunt for their first playoff appearance in the post-Brett Favre era.

 

"It's a good class, and we're all doing our share," Raji said. "Some roles are different than others right now, but everyone's doing their role and it's pretty good."

 

Lang admitted there's a sense of camaraderie that develops between a rookie class. And the fact the overall group has had success pleases him.

 

"I think we've made a pretty good impact this year," Lang said. "And for a lot of us to go out there and contribute the way we have has been impressive."

 

Here's a look at Green Bay's 2009 draft class, where they were selected, and how they've fared in their inaugural season:

 

1 (ninth overall pick). B.J. Raji, NT, 6 foot 2, 337 pounds: Raji's most extensive playing time came two weeks ago in Chicago. Still, he's been a vital contributor as part of what's mostly a four-man defensive line rotation.

 

Raji missed two weeks of training camp due to a holdout and then sat out first two regular season games with a sprained ankle suffered in the preseason finale. He's progressed nicely, though, and has 27 tackles and one sack.

 

Raji's strength is definitely in the power game. But he does have some quickness and could display it more next year if he gets in better shape and free-agent-to-be Ryan Pickett bolts.

 

"He was clearly a different player the first four or five weeks of the season with the ankle sprain," coach Mike McCarthy said. "Now, he is getting more familiar with the defense and the exact techniques and things that he is supposed to do."

 

1 (26). Clay Matthews, ROLB, 6-3, 245: This, along with quarterback Aaron Rodgers, wideout Greg Jennings and safety Nick Collins, ranks as one of the top picks in Thompson's five drafts.

 

Matthews plays with a motor that few possess, especially late in games. He's fast, strong, confident and intense.

 

Matthews has already set the Packers' rookie sack record with 10, which leads the team, and has 24 quarterback hits. Matthews has three fumble recoveries, including one for a touchdown, one forced fumble and 47 tackles despite not moving into the starting lineup until Week 4.

 

"Can't you just say that's a heck of a pick in Clay Matthews," McCarthy said. "You can't argue with the athletic ability, the versatility he gives you at that position. That's what you're looking for.The ability to put his hand down and rush the passer. Also to play all the different combinations, the pressure packages and the cover packages. I think he's off to an excellent start."

[joelmrut 4]

I'm not sure what some of the posters mean by clutch, but I would assume it would mean not throwing an interception in the 4th quarter of the NFC Championship game. Anyways, I found this and Rodger is about as clutch as you can get in only his 2nd year as a starter.

 

Rodgers Third Down Dominance

[Blue_Star_Wrecking_Crew 0]

Dallas may not even get there.

Rodgers is not concerned with just his December record. Nor am I.

Nor has he just folded like Romo has in the past.

 

Nobody thinks much of the team?

You are pretty funny.

 

 

how has romo folded? rodgers took a 13-3 team and went 6-10 with it. The only difference was the qb. take out favre and add in rodgers and the packers lost 7 more games.

 

if that is not the definition of folding ........wow

[Phurfur 70]

how has romo folded? rodgers took a 13-3 team and went 6-10 with it. The only difference was the qb. take out favre and add in rodgers and the packers lost 7 more games.

 

if that is not the definition of folding ........wow

 

Romo Sucks! Cowboys Suck!

[Sho Nuff 720]

how has romo folded? rodgers took a 13-3 team and went 6-10 with it. The only difference was the qb. take out favre and add in rodgers and the packers lost 7 more games.

 

if that is not the definition of folding ........wow

 

Yup...everything last year was just the same as in 2007 right? Thanks for spouting more ignorance.

If you think the only difference was at QB, you are as dumb as ever.

 

Definition of folding is getting to the playoffs with a ton of pro bowlers and an extremely talented team and blowing donkey balls.

[Blue_Star_Wrecking_Crew 0]

Yup...everything last year was just the same as in 2007 right? Thanks for spouting more ignorance.

If you think the only difference was at QB, you are as dumb as ever.

 

Definition of folding is getting to the playoffs with a ton of pro bowlers and an extremely talented team and blowing donkey balls.

 

you just described Peyton manning for most of his career.

[Phurfur 70]

you just described Peyton manning for most of his career.

 

Romo Sucks! Cowboys Suck!

[Sho Nuff 720]

you just described Peyton manning for most of his career.

 

Nope...he was not carried by a bunch of probowlers and showed improvement each year...not quite with Romo.

And Manning is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. Romo in talent and work ethic.

[donhaas 18]

Bump for Sweetness.....

 

I see ya, little fella!! :pointstosky:

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

Bump for Sweetness.....

 

I see ya, little fella!! :pointstosky:

good job........you beat the seahawks ......... now time for one and done in the playoffs

[Sho Nuff 720]

good job........you beat the seahawks ......... now time for one and done in the playoffs

 

Beat your Cowboys too.

Talk about one and done in the playoffs...thats all your boys do...if they even get there this year.

[donhaas 18]

well, they arent going to a title with rodgers....I think most realists would agree that favre gives a team the best chance to win...he hasnt exactly hurt minny..as don insisted he would...

 

 

Update:

 

Rodgers = MVP-like stats; Packers playoff-bound.... Packers winners of 6 of last 7 (should be 7 in a row)

Favre = shivering in the cold, benched, sucking under the slightest bit of pressure (of which Rodgers has seen much, much more of throughout the season and excelled), getting trounced by AZ, getting trounced by Carolina (HAHAHAHA)

 

Secondary update:

 

Favre = 40 years old.... no future

Rodgers = just turned 26.... getting better and better.... first quarterback in the history of the NFL to throw for 4,000 yards in his first two season; has a passer rating of more than 100 for 17 of his first 30 games

[edjr 6,607]

Update:

 

Rodgers = MVP-like stats; Packers playoff-bound.... Packers winners of 6 of last 7 (should be 7 in a row)

Favre = shivering in the cold, benched, sucking under the slightest bit of pressure (of which Rodgers has seen much, much more of throughout the season and excelled), getting trounced by AZ, getting trounced by Carolina (HAHAHAHA)

 

Secondary update:

 

Favre = 40 years old.... no future

Rodgers = just turned 26.... getting better and better.... first quarterback in the history of the NFL to throw for 4,000 yards in his first two season; has a passer rating of more than 100 for 17 of his first 300 games

 

30 games

 

 

only delusional people would choose Favre over Rogers.

[donhaas 18]

only delusional people would choose Favre over Rogers.

 

Why? Explain....

 

And you are a guy who bashed Favre (like the Viking fans who are slobbing his knob now) throughout most of his career....

 

Did he suddenly become great in your eyes in his old age as he shivers in the cold and gets trounced by AZ and Carolina?

[edjr 6,607]

Why? Explain....

 

And you are a guy who bashed Favre (like the Viking fans who are slobbing his knob now) throughout most of his career....

 

Did he suddenly become great in your eyes in his old age as he shivers in the cold and gets trounced by AZ and Carolina?

 

 

please re-read what I said and then re-comment.

 

tia

[Phurfur 70]

Did anyone think GB would be in the playoffs 1 year after Favre left? This is a major step for a rebuilding franchise.

[donhaas 18]

 

please re-read what I said and then re-comment.

 

tia

 

HAHAHAAHA

 

 

I'm so used to you being purposely adversarial