Jay Cutler

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364]

so basically someone here has been doing fantasy football in 1982 wow, did they have to wait for the pony express to deliver the scores?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364]

Jay Cutler drew marked criticism from former NFL head coaches Jim Mora and Mike Martz for his performance during Sunday's game as well as the post-game press conference.

 

After his four interceptions ruined a stellar defensive performance by the Bears, Cutler refused to accept blame and offered little more than cliches by way of explanation. "When I saw that postgame press conference last night, I thought he looked completely immature," Mora said. "He acted like he didn't even care." Added Lovie Smith's mentor Mike Martz: "He just doesn't get it." Cutler's maturity level has been in question ever since his orchestrated Denver exit in March and April.

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

How has this not been bumped lately?

 

Bears TE's and WR's suddenly FF relevant. Denver TE's and WR's are losing their FF relevancy.

 

How come I wonder?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364]

How has this not been bumped lately?

 

Bears TE's and WR's suddenly FF relevant. Denver TE's and WR's are losing their FF relevancy.

 

How come I wonder?

 

Here is your bump

 

 

Most Overrated QB EVAH continues to shine in primetime

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364]

you know what you guys can all just admit that I was right, I may have been a little extreme initially, but he is proving that he cannot be a franchise QB. No Cutlet led team will ever finish about .500. Dude is a tool, I wonder whose fault all 5 of those picks were tonight.

 

reading from the start for the first time in ages of this thread, alot of people were saying oh poor Cutler had no D and no running game, so all the pressure is on him....hmm kinda sounds A LOT like a little team down in so cal called the Chargers, no Def, even a worse running game then Den had all last year, but yet Rivers continues to be lights out, with one of the worst OLines in the league

 

some guys have it and some guys dont.

[NewbieJr 541]

Cutler is still very young, so it remains to be seen what his legacy will end up being.

 

As of now, he has too much of the Brett Favre my-arm-is-so-good-I-can-drill-it-into-any-coverage thing going. Problem is, Favre was way more accurate.

 

There's no denying the guy has a magnificent arm. His main battle now will be how he handles the adversity of this bad season. Cutler has an awful chip on his shoulder. His confidence borders on cockiness. He needs to allow himself to admit that he's playing poorly and it isn't anyone else's fault. He then has to go back to the drawing board and figure out how to eliminate the mistakes.

 

There was a drive early-on in teh game last night where he was marching downfield with bullet after bullet, all perfectly placed (many were to Olsen in the 15-yard range). It's during those drives that you see why coaches are in love with this guy's potential.

 

Cutloer needs to realize that throwing the ball away is not an admition of ineptitude. He seems like he thinks he needs to force a completion on every single pass play. He'll either outgrow that or become this generation's Jeff George.

[9-Route 0]

jay cutler:

 

his arm will always keep his team in the game.

 

his head will always keep the other team in the game.

 

 

 

[this guy's overconfidence in his fastball was resoundingly clear on the national mnf interview a few yrs ago: "i have a better arm than john elway."]

[RoadLizard 73]

Cutler does seem over-rated but I wonder if part of this is that the Bears just arent a very good football team. Bad defense, bad o-line, NO big-name WR to help Cutler out. Lots of problems. Lovie Smith IMO is a little suspect as well.

 

Yeha, Cutler does suck, but the Bears suck so whats the point?

[BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0]

God did Josh McDaniels rob and steal from Chicago.

 

Right now the trade is Jay Cutler for Kyle Orton, Knowshown Moreno, Robert Ayers and Chicago's 2010 #1 pick which looks like it will be top 10-12.

 

I mean Cutler is certainly overrated but Kyle Orton isn't dominating but he's doing fine and when you add in those 3 young high pick players Denver will be reaping the rewards of this trade for years to come.

[The Hood 9]

God did Josh McDaniels rob and steal from Chicago.

 

Right now the trade is Jay Cutler for Kyle Orton, Knowshown Moreno, Robert Ayers and Chicago's 2010 #1 pick which looks like it will be top 10-12.

 

I mean Cutler is certainly overrated but Kyle Orton isn't dominating but he's doing fine and when you add in those 3 young high pick players Denver will be reaping the rewards of this trade for years to come.

 

Moreno was Denver's pick. Had nothing to do with the Cutler trade.

[Phurfur 70]

Cutler is still very young, so it remains to be seen what his legacy will end up being.

 

As of now, he has too much of the Brett Favre my-arm-is-so-good-I-can-drill-it-into-any-coverage thing going. Problem is, Favre was way more accurate.

 

There's no denying the guy has a magnificent arm. His main battle now will be how he handles the adversity of this bad season. Cutler has an awful chip on his shoulder. His confidence borders on cockiness. He needs to allow himself to admit that he's playing poorly and it isn't anyone else's fault. He then has to go back to the drawing board and figure out how to eliminate the mistakes.

 

There was a drive early-on in teh game last night where he was marching downfield with bullet after bullet, all perfectly placed (many were to Olsen in the 15-yard range). It's during those drives that you see why coaches are in love with this guy's potential.

 

Cutloer needs to realize that throwing the ball away is not an admition of ineptitude. He seems like he thinks he needs to force a completion on every single pass play. He'll either outgrow that or become this generation's Jeff George.

 

When has he had a good season?

[donhaas 18]

He's terrible, but he's still the best quarterback in the history of the Chicago Bears

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

Funny how this gets bumped when he has horrible games, and nothing happens when he does well. He's not perfect and needs to figure some things out but I'm not ready to pile on him yet. He needs time, and a big target other than Olsen. I'm sorry but I don't personally think the kick returner is very good option. I think 2 INT's last night were a direct result of his ineptness. Falling down and running a route that brought him directly into the ref.

[Phurfur 70]

so basically someone here has been doing fantasy football in 1982 wow, did they have to wait for the pony express to deliver the scores?

 

II started in 1992 and things were much better back then. Everyone who played was knowledgeable about football; they did their own research and set their own lineup. When you won a championship it meant you were the best unlike today when all you have to do is find the best pay site and you are automatically competitive.

[illini9825 7]

God did Josh McDaniels rob and steal from Chicago.

 

Right now the trade is Jay Cutler for Kyle Orton, Knowshown Moreno, Robert Ayers and Chicago's 2010 #1 pick which looks like it will be top 10-12.

 

I mean Cutler is certainly overrated but Kyle Orton isn't dominating but he's doing fine and when you add in those 3 young high pick players Denver will be reaping the rewards of this trade for years to come.

 

As pointed out Moreno was Denver's pick and the Bears received a pick from Denver which turned into Johnny Knox. So the trade goes Jay Cutler and Johnny Knox for Kyle Orton, Robert Ayers and some picks in next year's draft. Not sure how you can evaluate the trade yet since Ayers hasn't really done much yet and Denver hasn't used those picks yet. But if you want to live in a fantasy world, fire away.

 

Even after that horrible game, I'd rather have Cutler than Orton. Cutler needs some talent around him. The Bears are not very good.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364]

II started in 1992 and things were much better back then. Everyone who played was knowledgeable about football; they did their own research and set their own lineup. When you won a championship it meant you were the best unlike today when all you have to do is find the best pay site and you are automatically competitive.

 

yah I started in 1993 myself, I cant even remember not having the internet, there was no such thing as a fantasy report, and half the time you didnt even know each teams roster in the NFL. Your only way of finding sleepers was by taking a chance on some guy who had a good box score in the preseason. It was much more challenging, and most of the times the league came down to waiver priority quite a bit.

[westlak 1]

How are all you bears fans enjoying Ryan Leaf? lol. Zing.

[Gepetto 1,374]

yah I started in 1993 myself, I cant even remember not having the internet, there was no such thing as a fantasy report, and half the time you didnt even know each teams roster in the NFL. Your only way of finding sleepers was by taking a chance on some guy who had a good box score in the preseason. It was much more challenging, and most of the times the league came down to waiver priority quite a bit.

 

Speak for yourself. I didn't even play ff back then, but I knew every skill position player on every team.

This is because I collected football cards and I used to look at the stats in the newspaper every week.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

The problem is the Chicago coaching staff is full of a bunch of poosay, hack coaches that cant reign in Cutler's punk-ass talent and limit the ridiculous INT's.

 

Unless they can match him back up with a Shanny/Holmgren type he'll be an overpaid Rex Grossman.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364]

Speak for yourself. I didn't even play ff back then, but I knew every skill position player on every team.

This is because I collected football cards and I used to look at the stats in the newspaper every week.

 

thats what im saying going into the year you never knew the depth, the 3rd RB, the 4th WR on each team, you had to scour the box scores of every preseason game and then during the regular season. No internet. Your sources were generally your local rag, box scores, and the occasional espn blip. You werent able to even watch all the games and find out about injuries till usually monday.

 

I collected football cards too and that hardly helped.

 

I cant even imagine trying to follow a team that wasnt in the city you lived in back then

[Portis26 0]

He is just not coachable and Marshall made him, rather then the other way around

[9-Route 0]

He is just not coachable and Marshall made him, rather then the other way around

 

not sure on the uncoachable part---his ego and self-confidence def seem to be factors in any teaching/mentoring which he undergoes.

 

the marshall part is def not it. that shanahan playbook was the reason both made stats---high recs on short, heavy volume passing juiced marshall, while the same along with constant garbage time juiced cutler. [marshall is not a make-a-qb-ultra wr....he is not moss/TO].

 

the key with cutler is that he doesn't cover his gambles/mistakes. if u r gonna be a gunslinger/gambler, u have to cover the losing 'hands' with some winning hands. ie the game the other night was in his hands to win, and erase the bad night; instead, he tosses the last pick, and we are having this discussion. earlier this decade, the 2nd and 3rd season of the greatest show on turf rams featured warner bombing 36TDs, but he also was making mistakes, to the tune of 22INTs. those scores and points, and most of all Ws, cover up the mistakes.

 

cutler is making mistakes, and no points or importantly Ws to cover them puts him in these discussions.

[BirdBradyBobbyOrr 0]

Jay Cutler is like a lesser version of Drew Bledsoe. I say lesser because even Bledsoe won games. He just choked in the biggest games. Bledsoe took the Pats into consistent playoff berths, winning seasons and division titles. Cutler can't take a bus.

[NewbieJr 541]

When has he had a good season?

I thought he made the Pro-Bowl.

[Phurfur 70]

The problem is the Chicago coaching staff is full of a bunch of poosay, hack coaches that cant reign in Cutler's punk-ass talent and limit the ridiculous INT's.

 

Unless they can match him back up with a Shanny/Holmgren type he'll be an overpaid Rex Grossman.

 

I hadn't thought of that but I think it is the problem.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

I've never seen anyone throw 5 picks like he did Thursday and STILL act like he's Joe Montana. I don't think he realizes just how bad his decisions are. That or he doesn't care. Whichever, I feel sorry for Chicago fans although I'd tell them it could be worse. Kansas City fans are worse off with Cassel. They got jobbed by New England on that trade.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364]

I thought he made the Pro-Bowl.

 

yes he made the Pro-Bowl last year, so did Brett Favre in the AFC, while the NFL's leader in Passer Rating, Touchdowns, TD-INT effeciency, and yards per pass was ignored

 

Pro-Bowl does not make a player good

[NewbieJr 541]

yes he made the Pro-Bowl last year, so did Brett Favre in the AFC, while the NFL's leader in Passer Rating, Touchdowns, TD-INT effeciency, and yards per pass was ignored

 

Pro-Bowl does not make a player good

You can argue that it isn't neccessarily the best players (due to some voter oversights), but some people (people waaaaay more knowledgable than you) voted him in.

 

That would seem to be a fairly good season.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364]

You can argue that it isn't neccessarily the best players (due to some voter oversights), but some people (people waaaaay more knowledgable than you) voted him in.

 

That would seem to be a fairly good season.

 

riiiiiiiiiiight. Did I do that right?

 

Cutler was 16th in passer rating, 14th in comp %, 7th in TD's, but hey he was however 2nd in INT, following only Brett Favre.

 

yep those people know much more then me

[redtodd 7]

Jay Cutler is like a lesser version of Drew Bledsoe. I say lesser because even Bledsoe won games. He just choked in the biggest games. Bledsoe took the Pats into consistent playoff berths, winning seasons and division titles. Cutler can't take a bus.

 

Who is this Drew Beldsoe? I didn't become a Patriots fan until early 2002.

[WhiteWonder 2,768]

[marshall is not a make-a-qb-ultra wr....he is not moss/TO].

 

you know, im not so sure about this. Marshall reminds me ALOT of Moss and TO (more so of TO) but remember Moss may have made Culpepper but Culpepper was at least decent and had a strong arm. Moss was nothing in Oakland and was reborn in New England with Brady.

 

TO has always had very good QB's throwing him the ball: Garcia in his prime in SF, McNabb, Romo. The last 2 certainly had the arms to utilize TO correctly.

 

I think Marshall highlighted Cutler by taking advantage of his big/strong arm. Even now, Marshall has made Orton look decent. Or at least as good as one can make Orton look.

[NewbieJr 541]

riiiiiiiiiiight. Did I do that right?

 

Cutler was 16th in passer rating, 14th in comp %, 7th in TD's, but hey he was however 2nd in INT, following only Brett Favre.

 

yep those people know much more then me

Perhaps the Pro Bowl should ask your advice. You seem like a real smart one.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364]

Perhaps the Pro Bowl should ask your advice. You seem like a real smart one.

 

Im not saying I know everything, but I do know that at the end of the season I can look at the stats and take away all the names and tell you who is deserving of probowl recognition, we are talking skill positions, stats speak for themselves. Its not like we are arguing guards. People who give awards seem to me like they dont follow the game nearly as close as I do.

 

Another example is for offensive rookie of the year in 2001, Anthony Thomas won over LT, despite having less yards, less td's, a lower yards/carry, less receptions and receiving yards.

 

I dont know how else you can determine it, those are about all the RB categories

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364]

ESPN is reporting Jay Culter is the New Jeff George

 

how do I get a job there?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364]

Jay Cutlet 2010 Watch Starts NOW

 

early prediction 4000 yards 22 tds 26 ints

 

I just re-read from start, this was a fun thread

[Big_Pete 0]

Jay Cutlet 2010 Watch Starts NOW

 

early prediction 4000 yards 22 tds 26 ints

 

I just re-read from start, this was a fun thread

Those will be roughly the same stats that Orton has, if you cut the picks in half

[Joey Gladstone 33]

The problem is the Chicago coaching staff is full of a bunch of poosay, hack coaches that cant reign in Cutler's punk-ass talent and limit the ridiculous INT's.

 

Unless they can match him back up with a Shanny/Holmgren type he'll be an overpaid Rex Grossman.

 

Not to jerk myself off, but this is the key. Cutler has a TON of talent, and in the right offense, working with the right coaches he can be outstanding. The Bears, this season and last, offer none of that.

 

Also, Cutler is a colossal douche:

 

17. Jay Cutler, Bears

The Reverse Tebow: all the tools, none of the intangibles. You had to admire how he handled the offseason, after Roethlisberger supplanted him as the league's premier QB villain, so he spent the spring and summer having horrible interactions with Chicago fans -- seriously, out of any athlete since I started writing for ESPN, nobody has spurred more of my readers to e-mail me a "Hey, I never do this, but I have to tell you about what happened last night" celebrity-bashing e-mail than Jay Cutler -- then upped the ante by reportedly falling for Kristin Cavallari (the resident b---- on "The Hills"). Next up for Cutler: either becoming best friends with Kourtney Kardashian's deadbeat husband, or doing all news conferences while wearing a white cap, white pants and a navy blue sportscoat with an anchor on it so he looks like William Kennedy Smith.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100902

 

I'm not basing that statement off of comments in Simmon's article, it is just more evidence to support the claim.

 

Go to google and type in "Jay Cutler is".....come back and tell me what the first suggestion is.

[Flgatorguy87 160]

Jay Cutler is a....

 

Douche

Jerk

Drunk

Overrated

 

 

The absolute truth. Haha. Check for yourself

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364]

[bigmark3333 11]

Not to jerk myself off, but this is the key. Cutler has a TON of talent, and in the right offense, working with the right coaches he can be outstanding. The Bears, this season and last, offer none of that.

 

Also, Cutler is a colossal douche:

 

 

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/100902

 

I'm not basing that statement off of comments in Simmon's article, it is just more evidence to support the claim.

 

Go to google and type in "Jay Cutler is".....come back and tell me what the first suggestion is.

 

While I am the farthest thing from a Cutler fan, try this for Brady, Manning, Favre etc and you will get some pretty similar (although pretty funny) results.