NFL Mock Draft - Commentary Thread

[FeelingMN 273]

Crap! Would have picked DJ Moore if he was there, but the Eagles took him right before. CB is a need for the Vikings, but none of the guys still available in this mock are anything special. Same goes with WR. Better to wait until day 2 to address those positions.

 

Ayers represents the best value and could be an upgrade over Edwards/Robison.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

Crap! Would have picked DJ Moore if he was there, but the Eagles took him right before. CB is a need for the Vikings, but none of the guys still available in this mock are anything special. Same goes with WR. Better to wait until day 2 to address those positions.

 

Ayers represents the best value and could be an upgrade over Edwards/Robison.

Ayers is a top 15 guy overall. I would have picked him if we did not have other needs and we already picked another LB who fell. I think people may have forgotten he was there. There is little chance that he will fall that far on Saturday. Good pick for Minny.

[kutulu 1,659]

9 picks left...three days...might actually finish two rounds.

[kutulu 1,659]

Mr Greenthumb hasn't been around in a few days either, therefore I'll give it till noon EST and then we will open it up to suggestions for Miami's pick.

 

Mr Greenthumb: Last Seen: 18th April 2009 - 04:32 PM

[kutulu 1,659]

Mr Greenthumb hasn't been around in a few days either, therefore I'll give it till noon EST and then we will open it up to suggestions for Miami's pick.

 

Mr Greenthumb: Last Seen: 18th April 2009 - 04:32 PM

 

Let's open it up to suggestions. Miami took Sean Smith S/CB Utah in the first. I've seen some mocks/articles mention a WR in their plans but I'm not so sure this is correct. Any suggestions fish fans and/or mockers & lurkers for their next pick?

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

I will again recuse myself as I am picking next.

[Grizzly 0]

At this point Larry English DE is a steal - Sen'Derrick Marks DT or Juaquin Igleias WR if you want a WR

[FeelingMN 273]

At this point Larry English DE is a steal - Sen'Derrick Marks DT or Juaquin Igleias WR if you want a WR

 

I agree. I'd go English here.

[kutulu 1,659]

I likes the English suggestion. WRs left seem to be a reach at this point.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

For those people who are picking here, it would be good to have each of them provide some feedback as to what they were looking for coming in to the draft and whether they felt that they reached those goals. I can start.

 

Patriots' Needs:

- OLB - need to replace Vrabel and/or look for a replacement to Bruschi at ILB. A young pass rusher would also be a good fit.

- CB - the secondary has been poor for some time and with the way that the AFC is shaping up, it is important to have a deep secondary

- S - need to replace Rodney Harrison and having depth here is very important (see CB above)

- OL - Kaczur, Mankins, and Neal all have deals that expire after 2009. Light's deal ends in 2010, so preparation for losing one or more of these guys is very important.

 

How the draft went:

1st round - Cushing fell and represented a good value for either OLB or ILB at #23. Looked at English, Ayers, and CB Darius Butler at this point, but figured one of them would be available at #34.

 

2nd round (34th overall) - English, Ayers and Butler are all still available in this mock. With LB filled, the selection of Butler seems to be a no-brainer

 

2nd round (47th overall) - English and Ayers are still there. However, the run on safeties is just going to start with Delmas going at 46. As such, we look to the best rated safety (with the fewest question marks) is Chung, since Moore is probably more of a Merriweather clone and Chung's durability is a good fit with the safeties on the roster.

 

2nd round (58th overall) - Finally, English and Ayers (and Barwin) are gone, so it makes this an easier choice. The Patriots would be looking to add to the depth on the line and possibly upgrade there. They like to have very smart lineman and they want guys that can play multiple spots. Jamon Meredith fits that bill on both counts. Patriots OL coach, Dante Scarnecchia has already worked out Meredith, so they have their eyes on this guy.

 

Coming into the draft, I think that the Patriots would have been happy with what they got at 23, 34, and 58. Chung might have been taken a little too early, but there is a question as to one of their targeted safeties would have still been there at 58.

[WhiteWonder 2,681]

ok ill play along.

 

the Jets needs

WR- biggest need. They let Coles go and have only Cotchery as a legit weapon but he is suited as a #2.

QB- another big need but I don't think they will force anything and might not draft one at all unless sanchez falls into their laps.

RB- this is a luxury/depth need imo. TJ is getting older and Leon is best suited to split time so grabbing someone later on to groom would be ideal.

DL- a DT to groom behind and help keep Jenkins healthy is a must at some point as well as some depth at the ends.

 

 

#17 - I don't see Jeremy Maclin falling this far come saturday but to have him there in this mock was too good to pass up. Other players I was considering here would have been Sanchez and Tyson Jackson. Honestly I think the team would be best suited trading back possibly with a team that wants Freeman and aquiring an extra 3rd or maybe even late 2nd round pick and targeting a Nicks or Britt later in round 1.

 

 

#52 - I was targetting LeSean McCoy here as that eventual replacement for TJ. I think Leon and LeSean could be a nice 1-2 punch for the future. But he was off the board. I decided to go with defensive line depth. Kris Jenkins was a monster early last season but wore down as the year went along. Ron Brace would be able to learn the position under him and also help keep Jenkins fresh and more productive later in the season.

[kutulu 1,659]

4 more pick...2 more days, but I'd really like to get this done today if possible. Colts rep was around yesterday, so lets say 2 pm EST to pick and then we'll open the doors once again.

[kutulu 1,659]

jerrycurl wasn't around for the Cards first pick and I don't think he's followed the rest of the mock either, therefore in an effort to put this thing to bed ASAP, I'm taken suggestions for the superbowl chumps second round pick right now.

[Grizzly 0]

jerrycurl wasn't around for the Cards first pick and I don't think he's followed the rest of the mock either, therefore in an effort to put this thing to bed ASAP, I'm taken suggestions for the superbowl chumps second round pick right now.

 

Marcus Freeman OLB Ohio State

Paul Kruger DE Utah

Juaquin Iglesias WR Oklahoma

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

For those people who are picking here, it would be good to have each of them provide some feedback as to what they were looking for coming in to the draft and whether they felt that they reached those goals. I can start.

 

Ok, I was picking for the Titans.

 

The way I see it, the Titans had three main needs.

 

1) A playmaker on offense

2) A center to groom for when Mawae retires

3) D line depth to help replace Haynesworth

 

In the first round, I went with Harvin. The kid is a gamer, and with a creative OC, he will create problems all over the field. I salavate to think of him and CJ3 split out together, or in the same backfield.

 

In the second round, I went with the center from Arkansas. From everything I've read, he seems like a good, polished lineman. This year, he can spell Mawae, and play a little guard as well. Meanwhile, he needs to get stronger.

 

I would have been torn had the Colts not selected the DT from Auburn right in front of me. I probably would have taken him had he fallen one more spot.

 

The third need is really wishful thinking. You aren't going to replace Haynesworth. The kid they drafted last year looked good when he got the chance to play (notably against the Steelers) and he needs to step up.

[jerryskids 6,580]

Marcus Freeman OLB Ohio State

Paul Kruger DE Utah

Juaquin Iglesias WR Oklahoma

Funny, I went with Kruger without reading this thread.

 

Also I didn't pick last week because I was on a cruise, sorry. And by sorry I mean I don't give a shiot.

[RLLD 4,145]

Funny, I went with Kruger without reading this thread.

 

Also I didn't pick last week because I was on a cruise, sorry. And by sorry I mean I don't give a shiot.

 

[mzf5c5 0]

Picking for the Colts:

 

Colts needs as I see it atm....DT, LB, WR and RB now that Rhoades was signed away.

 

I was hoping Perry or Hood would have fallen in this mock to them in the first round and would have rather used the second round on a WR/RB, but since there wasn't much there at DT, I know that they were looking for WR help. It wouldn't surprise me either if they take a RB depending on if the first round goes WR happy like ours did.

 

With a WR in the first round, there was plenty of targets for round two for DT and I am happy with the one selected. I think he can start and be an impact on defense his first year. I know a weakness was rushing the passer, but with Freeny and Mathis, who cares, we need him to plug the middle, which I feel he can.

[kutulu 1,659]

I'm thinking of going back to the future with PITT's pick if they don't go soon,

 

Slash the II, aka Pat White. Anyone expect him to last till day 2?

 

He could play WR, help out in the return game and they could bring him along slowly at the QB position.

[mzf5c5 0]

I'm thinking of going back to the future with PITT's pick if they don't go soon,

 

Slash the II, aka Pat White. Anyone expect him to last till day 2?

 

He could play WR, help out in the return game and they could bring him along slowly at the QB position.

 

I think someone will grab him the first day. He would be a bargain during the second day, I like what I have been seeing/reading about him.

[Dan 62]

I'm thinking of going back to the future with PITT's pick if they don't go soon,

 

Slash the II, aka Pat White. Anyone expect him to last till day 2?

 

He could play WR, help out in the return game and they could bring him along slowly at the QB position.

 

I'm really glad I picked before you got impatient then. Sorry, it was a long morning.

[kutulu 1,659]

I'm really glad I picked before you got impatient then. Sorry, it was a long morning.

 

 

I was going to give you quite awhile to pick. I know Pat White wasn't the best pick for them...I just think he gets picked by somebody on the first day and you could make somewhat of a case for him to PITT if things fell this way with all the talk of them maybe needing another WR and returner because of the ? marks around Sweed. Still, I'm glad you made the pick yerself.

[Dan 62]

I was going to give you quite awhile to pick. I know Pat White wasn't the best pick for them...I just think he gets picked by somebody on the first day and you could make somewhat of a case for him to PITT if things fell this way with all the talk of them maybe needing another WR and returner because of the ? marks around Sweed. Still, I'm glad you made the pick yerself.

 

Pittsburgh has certainly done things like that in the past, and I could see them pulling the trigger on him, but I think more in the third round, if he is still there. Possible in the second, if only because the best talent elsewhere could be gone by then.

 

I like TJ Lang. There were a couple of others that were considered, but I went with the guy who has been jumping all over draft boards, because I like his versatility and drive. He can bulk up into his frame, and the technique issues are ones that can be trained to be better. The talent is there, and I would be content with the selection.

[kutulu 1,659]

...I just think he gets picked by somebody on the first day

 

44th overall

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

For those people who are picking here, it would be good to have each of them provide some feedback as to what they were looking for coming in to the draft and whether they felt that they reached those goals. I can start.

 

Patriots' Needs:

- OLB - need to replace Vrabel and/or look for a replacement to Bruschi at ILB. A young pass rusher would also be a good fit.

- CB - the secondary has been poor for some time and with the way that the AFC is shaping up, it is important to have a deep secondary

- S - need to replace Rodney Harrison and having depth here is very important (see CB above)

- OL - Kaczur, Mankins, and Neal all have deals that expire after 2009. Light's deal ends in 2010, so preparation for losing one or more of these guys is very important.

 

How the draft went:

1st round - Cushing fell and represented a good value for either OLB or ILB at #23. Looked at English, Ayers, and CB Darius Butler at this point, but figured one of them would be available at #34.

 

2nd round (34th overall) - English, Ayers and Butler are all still available in this mock. With LB filled, the selection of Butler seems to be a no-brainer

 

2nd round (47th overall) - English and Ayers are still there. However, the run on safeties is just going to start with Delmas going at 46. As such, we look to the best rated safety (with the fewest question marks) is Chung, since Moore is probably more of a Merriweather clone and Chung's durability is a good fit with the safeties on the roster.

 

2nd round (58th overall) - Finally, English and Ayers (and Barwin) are gone, so it makes this an easier choice. The Patriots would be looking to add to the depth on the line and possibly upgrade there. They like to have very smart lineman and they want guys that can play multiple spots. Jamon Meredith fits that bill on both counts. Patriots OL coach, Dante Scarnecchia has already worked out Meredith, so they have their eyes on this guy.

 

Coming into the draft, I think that the Patriots would have been happy with what they got at 23, 34, and 58. Chung might have been taken a little too early, but there is a question as to one of their targeted safeties would have still been there at 58.

 

I was surprised that the Pats did not take a LB at all. Perhaps tomorrow has something in that area.

 

However, I got 2 of their picks right (Butler and Chung). Most people in NE had no clue who Chung is. I have to admit that I have never heard of Vollmer.