Families for ED Decency Act

[FeelingMN 273]

WASHINGTON (CNN) - Former presidential candidate Robert Dole made headlines as a pitchman for Viagra, and now a decade later a Virginia congressman wants to limit the time when ads for this and similar products can air.

 

Last month, Democratic Rep. Jim Moran introduced the "Families for ED Advertising Decency Act," which prevents erectile dysfunction and male enhancement ads from appearing on radio and television between the hours of 6 a.m. and 10 p.m.

 

"This [the advertisements] is an intrusion into our daily lives that I believe has become inappropriate." Moran said in an interview with CNN. "There is a saturation of the television airwaves with these E.D. ads, and they have gotten more pervasive, more blunt, and less subtle."

 

The bill currently has only one co-sponsor, Rep. Robert Brady, D-Pennsylvania, and there are currently no hearings scheduled on the issue. But a Moran spokesman said the congressman is actively seeking more support.

 

"I don't want to be prudish about it," Moran said. "I understand there is limitless market to deal with male insecurity and its fine for drug companies to make a profit on that. The problem is that they are showing these ads when small children are bound to get curious."

 

UPDATE: Pfizer, the maker of Viagra, defended their commercials in a statement, saying, "Our goal in advertising our products is to reach the people who would be most likely to benefit from them."

 

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/...a-before-10-pm/

 

 

Sigh.....

 

Dear Uncle Sam, you can't control everything. Sometimes kids will be exposed to real life and parents will have to actually engage their children in a thoughtful discussion about the world at large. Your moral crusades don't pass as effective governance. Feel free to devote some of your attention to a more practical matter that will actually aid America.

 

Thanks,

 

Smiling Bob

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

I do think it is inappropriate to have commercials discussing erections and erections lasting longer than 5 hours and healthy enough for sexual function on tv and radio all day long. There just isn't a need for it, and kids shouldn't hear that.

 

I support the bill.

[surferskin 31]

Ya'Know...most other countries don't let pharmaceutical companies advertise their latest drugs like we do in this country. And I don't think it has anything to do with being prudes.

[edjr 6,898]

I do think it is inappropriate to have commercials discussing erections and erections lasting longer than 5 hours and healthy enough for sexual function on tv and radio all day long. There just isn't a need for it, and kids shouldn't hear that.

 

I support the bill.

 

especially on Sunday between 2 and 6...

 

when i'm watching GOLF!

[Voltaire 5,489]

Phhpt.

 

I've got no problem with the advertising of Viagra. ED is a legitimate problem.

[surferskin 31]

Phhpt.

 

I've got no problem with the advertising of Viagra. ED is a legitimate problem.

You got something you want to tell us?

[kutulu 1,703]

If they make this law, won't most of the guys who need this be sleeping when the commercials air?

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Phhpt.

 

I've got no problem with the advertising of Viagra. ED is a legitimate problem.

 

So when your four year old daughter turns to you and says, "Daddy, what is an erection? Why do you have to go to the hospital if it lasts longer than four hours? What does 'healthy enough for sexual activity' mean?" you are cool with that?

 

If people can't get it up, they should go to their doctor, and he can write them a script for whatever. No reason for it to be discussed on tv and radio ad nauseum.

[NewbieJr 541]

The male enhancement ads are so focking stupid. They are about as subtle as a brick to the head.

 

Announcer : "Bob took our new Wondercock pill and his wife things it made a difference"

 

Wife: (while rubbing his shoulder) "Yes, a biiiiiiiiigggg difference"

 

 

Do men really buy these things? Holy crap, PT Barnum was right.

[surferskin 31]

The male enhancement ads are so focking stupid. They are about as subtle as a brick to the head.

 

Announcer : "Bob took our new Wondercock pill and his wife things it made a difference"

 

Wife: (while rubbing his shoulder) "Yes, a biiiiiiiiigggg difference"

Do men really buy these things? Holy crap, PT Barnum was right.

[Voltaire 5,489]

So when your four year old daughter turns to you and says, "Daddy, what is an erection? Why do you have to go to the hospital if it lasts longer than four hours? What does 'healthy enough for sexual activity' mean?" you are cool with that?

 

If people can't get it up, they should go to their doctor, and he can write them a script for whatever. No reason for it to be discussed on tv and radio ad nauseum.

 

I never see ads but to answer your question no, I don't really care. Also, four year olds pay much attention to commercials that aren't for toys.

[FeelingMN 273]

So when your four year old daughter turns to you and says, "Daddy, what is an erection? Why do you have to go to the hospital if it lasts longer than four hours? What does 'healthy enough for sexual activity' mean?" you are cool with that?

 

If people can't get it up, they should go to their doctor, and he can write them a script for whatever. No reason for it to be discussed on tv and radio ad nauseum.

 

See, I agree that pharm ads shouldn't be aired....at all. If you have questions or concerns, go talk with your doctor. On air ads do more to manufacture a need than to inform.

 

Since I don't have kids, it's probably pretty simple of me to take the stance I do. But if a kid asks you something, can't you just answer it? Are you going to be able to evade all the thorny problems life throws at you until convenience dictates when you address the issue?

[surferskin 31]

See, I agree that pharm ads shouldn't be aired....at all. If you have questions or concerns, go talk with your doctor. On air ads do more to manufacture a need than to inform.

Then why are you whining about it?

[BLS 314]

OMG....who cares???!!!

 

Maybe we should ban tampon and maxi pad commercials too.....because what if your 4 yo daughter asks you what 'heavy flow' and 'periods' are?

 

Jesus tapdancing Christ we have become a nation of fuckin pansies.

 

It's real simple....when I asked something I didn't need to know, either I got ignored, or told 'It's for grown ups'.

[kpbuckeye 3]

lets protect the kids

 

all you guys want big brother out of your lives, yet here you are encourging more intrusion.

 

there is an on/off switch on your tv's. If you don't like whats on, turn the mo fo off.

[surferskin 31]

It's real simple....when I asked something I didn't need to know, either I got ignored, or told 'It's for grown ups'.

Yeah, and look how good you turned out.

 

 

[FeelingMN 273]

Then why are you whining about it?

 

Because I think it's overly Puritanical in tone, and impractical in general and I don't think hick Congressmen should impose their morals onto the rest of the country. He's specifically targeting ED ads here, but in listening to him this morning on CNN, it sounds like he thinks there's too much sex in advertising generally speaking.

 

Look at the AXE ads....you wear AXE, don't you? Those fockers are way more sexually energized than ED commericals.....and they actually are aimed at adolescents.

 

But they don't mention 'erection' or 'penile', so they're more appropriate.

 

Whatever.

[pimptastic69 0]

So when your four year old daughter turns to you and says, "Daddy, what is an erection? Why do you have to go to the hospital if it lasts longer than four hours? What does 'healthy enough for sexual activity' mean?" you are cool with that?

 

You just give them the . Works every time.

[KSB2424 3,173]

OMG....who cares???!!!

 

Maybe we should ban tampon and maxi pad commercials too.....because what if your 4 yo daughter asks you what 'heavy flow' and 'periods' are?

 

Jesus tapdancing Christ we have become a nation of fuckin pansies.

 

It's real simple....when I asked something I didn't need to know, either I got ignored, or told 'It's for grown ups'.

This is the only acceptable response.

[surferskin 31]

Because I think it's overly Puritanical in tone, and impractical in general and I don't think hick Congressmen should impose their morals onto the rest of the country. He's specifically targeting ED ads here, but in listening to him this morning on CNN, it sounds like he thinks there's too much sex in advertising generally speaking.

 

Look at the AXE ads....you wear AXE, don't you? Those fockers are way more sexually energized than ED commericals.....and they actually are aimed at adolescents.

 

But they don't mention 'erection' or 'penile', so they're more appropriate.

 

Whatever.

How is it impractical?

[MTSkiBum 1,626]

See, I agree that pharm ads shouldn't be aired....at all. If you have questions or concerns, go talk with your doctor. On air ads do more to manufacture a need than to inform.

 

I agree, take all pharmaceutical ads off the air.

[FeelingMN 273]

How is it impractical?

 

Because you can't shield your kids from real life.

 

Because it's a moral crusade disguised as governance, and ranks pretty low on the list of priorities this country has.

 

Because absolutely nothing will change through this bill except we won't have to sit through 29 ED ads while watching sports.

[KSB2424 3,173]

I agree, take all pharmaceutical ads off the air.

Why? Why shouldn't business be allowed to market their product. Where do you draw the line? You do realize Pharma also makes stuff like antacids and toothpaste and all kinds of things. Why shouldn't a company that pays for airtime like Nike or Axe or focking Tampax be allowed to market their product? No one is forcing you to buy anything. If you have hearburn and you see a doctor you have a choice of Nexium or Previcid or other things. Why shouldn't a Pharma company be allowed to market their product over a competitors? Is that not the American way? Or is that now the old American way.

[wiffleball 4,797]

So when your four year old daughter turns to you and says, "Daddy, what is an erection? Why do you have to go to the hospital if it lasts longer than four hours? What does 'healthy enough for sexual activity' mean?" you are cool with that?

 

"It's like a backache honey."

 

"Oh. Okay. Can I have some ice cream?"

 

Sheesh, don't you people unnerstand that the best part about having gullible little kids is lying to them? Calvin's Dad's lies were some of the best part of that comic.

 

Trust me, kids are exposed to a shiitload more graphic content that two old people in seperate bathtubs. And BTW, not for nuthin, but if you're with your "special lady friend" and you're in seperate bathtubs, you're doing it wrong.

 

and BBTW. I haven't seen a single of of those ads that were in the LEAST bit suggestive. WTF? Throwing your phone and magazines in the lawn?

[Franknbeans 46]

this commerical isn't nearly as bad as those K-Y commercials. How do you explain

to your kid?

[wiffleball 4,797]

OMG....who cares???!!!

 

Maybe we should ban tampon and maxi pad commercials too.....because what if your 4 yo daughter asks you what 'heavy flow' and 'periods' are?

 

Jesus tapdancing Christ we have become a nation of fuckin pansies.

 

It's real simple....when I asked something I didn't need to know, either I got ignored, or told 'It's for grown ups'.

 

This.

 

And really, those tampon commercials still make me ralph. Get the hell off that white horse before you roon it lady.

 

And the one where she clogs the hole in the boat with her tampon? Good Lord. Yeah, that's mighty subtle Pearl Girl.

 

Seriously, it's a good analogy. If you take the ED stuff, you might as well take the Tampon stuff. The could both lead to embarassing questions from 4 year olds.

 

 

And last - This is a PERFECT example of why the GOP is so focked up. These focking 'family values' bible nuts are putting up shiit like this when we're in the middle of two wars and the worst focking economic crisis since the last focking worst economic crisis.

[kutulu 1,703]

this commerical isn't nearly as bad as those K-Y commercials. How do you explain

to your kid?

 

"It makes it easier to fock your Mom in the ass, son."

[surferskin 31]

Because you can't shield your kids from real life.

 

Because it's a moral crusade disguised as governance, and ranks pretty low on the list of priorities this country has.

 

Because absolutely nothing will change through this bill except we won't have to sit through 29 ED ads while watching sports.

Oh, so ED ads are about "real life"?

 

There's tons of moral crusades in government.

 

Sounds like that changes something.

[wiffleball 4,797]

Oh, so ED ads are about "real life"?

 

There's tons of moral crusades in government.

 

Sounds like that changes something.

 

This is like a haiku.

 

I don't unnerstand a focking word of those either.

[surferskin 31]

And last - This is a PERFECT example of why the GOP is so focked up. These focking 'family values' bible nuts are putting up shiit like this when we're in the middle of two wars and the worst focking economic crisis since the last focking worst economic crisis.

Yeah, that's almost as crazy as trying to tax carbon during 2 wars and a recession!

[KSB2424 3,173]

And last - This is a PERFECT example of why the GOP is so focked up. These focking 'family values' bible nuts are putting up shiit like this when we're in the middle of two wars and the worst focking economic crisis since the last focking worst economic crisis.

While I can see where the religious right could be linked with something like this I think you missed this part:

Last month, Democratic Rep. Jim Moran introduced the "Families for ED Advertising Decency Act," which prevents erectile dysfunction and male enhancement ads from appearing on radio and television between the hours of 6 a.m. and 10 p.m.

Just Sayin'

[kpbuckeye 3]

 

This.

 

And really, those tampon commercials still make me ralph. Get the hell off that white horse before you roon it lady.

 

And the one where she clogs the hole in the boat with her tampon? Good Lord. Yeah, that's mighty subtle Pearl Girl.

 

Seriously, it's a good analogy. If you take the ED stuff, you might as well take the Tampon stuff. The could both lead to embarassing questions from 4 year olds.

And last - This is a PERFECT example of why the GOP is so focked up. These focking 'family values' bible nuts are putting up shiit like this when we're in the middle of two wars and the worst focking economic crisis since the last focking worst economic crisis.

 

I assume its just habbit for you to cry about the right. Try reading the article moron.

 

Last month, Democratic Rep. Jim Moran introduced the "Families for ED Advertising Decency Act," which prevents erectile dysfunction and male enhancement ads from appearing on radio and television between the hours of 6 a.m. and 10 p.m.

[wiffleball 4,797]

While I can see where the religious right could be linked with something like this I think you missed this part:

 

Just Sayin'

 

Ah Damn. There goes a perfectly good rant.

 

- A libruhl hijerking the 'Family' shctick? Doesn't the GOP have that pattented yet?

[FeelingMN 273]

Why? Why shouldn't business be allowed to market their product. Where do you draw the line? You do realize Pharma also makes stuff like antacids and toothpaste and all kinds of things. Why shouldn't a company that pays for airtime like Nike or Axe or focking Tampax be allowed to market their product? No one is forcing you to buy anything. If you have hearburn and you see a doctor you have a choice of Nexium or Previcid or other things. Why shouldn't a Pharma company be allowed to market their product over a competitors? Is that not the American way? Or is that now the old American way.

 

Because for every other product, I can go to the store and buy it without an overeducated, condescending middle man. Pharmaceuticals though, you need a prescription. You need an actual, qualified opinion to obtain that stuff. The reason? Because that stuff can blind you, or cause your colon to spasm, or trigger a small stroke, etc.

 

Seriously, how can laymen decide which medicine is better for them based on ads?

 

They're marketing a need more than their product. They're subtely reminding you that you're not quite as fit as you could be, and all that could change with a visit to your overworked, Big Insurance sponsored doctor.

[FeelingMN 273]

Oh, so ED ads are about "real life"?

 

There's tons of moral crusades in government.

 

Sounds like that changes something.

 

 

This is like a haiku.

 

I don't unnerstand a focking word of those either.

 

[KSB2424 3,173]

Pharmaceuticals though, you need a prescription.

Exactly. So if there is no need for a drug (for which you are alluding Pharma tries to persuade people) then your doctor should not write you a prescription. If he deems you need treatment then you usually have a choice between several types of medication. All Pharma is doing is marketing their specific 'chioce'. Just like every other company/industry does.

[jerryskids 7,085]

Because for every other product, I can go to the store and buy it without an overeducated, condescending middle man. Pharmaceuticals though, you need a prescription. You need an actual, qualified opinion to obtain that stuff. The reason? Because that stuff can blind you, or cause your colon to spasm, or trigger a small stroke, etc.

 

Seriously, how can laymen decide which medicine is better for them based on ads?

 

They're marketing a need more than their product. They're subtely reminding you that you're not quite as fit as you could be, and all that could change with a visit to your overworked, Big Insurance sponsored doctor.

So what? They are investing money in advertising because they believe it will help them sell more product. Do you NEED a shamwow? A BMW? Fock no, you don't NEED a focking thing you see a commercial for.

 

The difference here though is, before their advertising works, you need to go through a trained medical professional. So if I walk into a doc's office and ask him about the latest wondercack pill, he may tell me that it will cause me to grow a third eye, and advise me against it. Nobody stops me from an impulse shamwow purchase.

 

Jeebus.

[wiffleball 4,797]

Because for every other product, I can go to the store and buy it without an overeducated, condescending middle man. Pharmaceuticals though, you need a prescription. You need an actual, qualified opinion to obtain that stuff. The reason? Because that stuff can blind you, or cause your colon to spasm, or trigger a small stroke, etc.

 

Seriously, how can laymen decide which medicine is better for them based on ads?

 

They're marketing a need more than their product. They're subtely reminding you that you're not quite as fit as you could be, and all that could change with a visit to your overworked, Big Insurance sponsored doctor.

 

While I don't necessarilly disagree that there's a big part of that, I don't think it's that black and white. Think about it - it's not like guys just recently started getting ED When they were older. The same thing goes for Bladder control, excema, etc. People might not go to a Doctor for this stuff because they just accept that's the way it is when you get older. But it doesn't have to be that way. So, yes, I think some value comes from advertising.

 

- Not to mention that this is America. I'm really not into government restrictions on speech.

 

But I do agree that it's too much. I'd be okay with something along the lines of 8-9pm. The risquer tv shows come on then with the assumption kids will be asleep.

[Cin-De 0]

Why hasn't SNL done a bit on this? Could be funny. Maybe that's whty.

[FeelingMN 273]

Exactly. So if there is no need for a drug (for which you are alluding Pharma tries to persuade people) then your doctor should not write you a prescription. If he deems you need treatment then you usually have a choice between several types of medication. All Pharma is doing is marketing their specific 'chioce'. Just like every other company/industry does.

 

 

Interactions between the pharmaceutical industry and health care professionals often involve payments: cash payments; cash-value payments, such as gift certificates; or in-kind payments, such as meals, textbooks, conference fees, or luggage. In contrast to many other professions, including education and law, medicine allows payments from a company to an individual who decides whether and how often to use products produced by the company. To avoid undue influence, the American Medical Association recommends that gifts (but not other payments) to physicians should benefit patients and not exceed $100 in value, a recommendation similar to those of other medical organizations and the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America. Other individuals have proposed eliminating all direct payments.

 

http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/297/11/1216

 

Manufacture the need. Get people thinking they need this sh!t or they're going to die. Doc scratches a scrip. Pockets a few bucks from Pfizer. And Pfizer's sales increase.

 

Everybody's happy.....well, except for that certain percentage of patients who might have received the same benefits from a placebo....but that's for the Doc to figure out......