Round 3 Commentary

[Mike FF Today 723]

[Dan 66]

And there's the other RB I considered.

[Vikings4ever 550]

MJD, Portis, and Colston.

 

The first spot has the potential to be awesome this year, especially if a Barber/Portis falls to the turn.

[RLLD 4,230]

Brown at 3.01 is decent value, giving me two solid starters at RB at least....I could have gone WR here, but if I went WR - RB over the next two picks I would have arrived at something far less interesting than if I went RB - WR as I have here....

[RicemanX 20]

Yea, I'm diggin #1 spot atm

[Dan 66]

MJD, Portis, and Colston.

 

The first spot has the potential to be awesome this year, especially if a Barber/Portis falls to the turn.

 

For perspective, NAn, I took Clinton Portis at 3.7 in my draft.

[Vikings4ever 550]

For perspective, NAn, I took Clinton Portis at 3.7 in my draft.

And I took Barber at 3.11

[remote controller 143]

The top 7 Qb's were not adversly affected though. They seemed to drop faster than previous years.;

[Dan 66]

The top 7 Qb's were not adversly affected though. They seemed to drop faster than previous years.;

 

Brees went consistently in the 2nd, the rest kinda clumped together there it seemed.

 

But they didn't hang around, that's for sure.

[NAn 39]

agreed V4E...usually you get the top guy but there's a decent drop off from mid-late 2nd to what's left at end of 2nd.

this year, not the case.

 

okay, lots of folks down on portis this year....admittedly he fell off in 2nd half last year and that OL is not the greatest, but I also think he's just not the 'sexy' pick anymore, but still a guy who just goes out there and produces, and folks can take advantage if he slips:

* still finished overall with 1700totyds/9tds

* even if he falls off a bit or misses some games you could still see 1500/8...solid #2rb numbers.

* still could have a 1700/9 in him which would be a solid low end #1rb

* defnintely takes a hit ppr, but 28 last year, 44 year before, so even the high 20s-low 30s is reasonable and solid at this pt as well

 

honestly considered this year's 'sexy' pick here for a few reasons and will comment later, but happy with portis here.

[NAn 39]

For perspective, NAn, I took Clinton Portis at 3.7 in my draft.

 

 

Yeah, definitely seen him go later, right around mid 3rd, but he obviously wasn't going to come back to me, I only considered a couple others there, and mocks I've done what would likely get back to me as far as RBs I wouldn't be so happy with (while think lots of wrs that will come back around that I like).

 

I actually like his value here over some other options, but solid pt re: value and maximizing draft Dan.

[NAn 39]

possible to get folks thoughts on colston particularly my take in other thread...guy I'm keying on in upcoming drafts and just don't want to 'fall in love' with him...like to hear some other thoughts on him pro or con.

[mobb_deep 920]

Can't believe Portis fell to 3.1. I sent my pre-draft list to Mike at the 2.4 spot... 1. Gore, 2. Barber, 3. Portis. I would have been thrilled with any of those 3 at 2.6. MJD, Portis and Colston = great start.

[RLLD 4,230]

Can't believe Portis fell to 3.1. I sent my pre-draft list to Mike at the 2.4 spot... 1. Gore, 2. Barber, 3. Portis. I would have been thrilled with any of those 3 at 2.6. MJD, Portis and Colston = great start.

 

Portis has been getting knocked over the last three years, but the guy just keeps putting up good numbers.... I would look to take him in the 2.05-3.01 range if I could grab him there

[Dan 66]

possible to get folks thoughts on colston particularly my take in other thread...guy I'm keying on in upcoming drafts and just don't want to 'fall in love' with him...like to hear some other thoughts on him pro or con.

 

Cannot argue with the value of him, in the #1 offense, a tremendous upside with top-5 potential. Only concern is health - but see my views from earlier on that. There is one I like better . . . but I have always been a Colston fan. Considered him also at 2.1.

[KSB2424 3,148]

Welker is a PPR machine. Not a sexy pick as you won't get the applause from the crowd like some other guys, but when it's all said and done this guy will be a top 8 scoring WR in this format.

[RLLD 4,230]

Welker is a PPR machine. Not a sexy pick as you won't get the applause from the crowd like some other guys, but when it's all said and done this guy will be a top 8 scoring WR in this format.

 

Yeah, i considered him at my last pick, he is always flying under the radar...

[KSB2424 3,148]

I was hoping this guy would get picked so I wouldn't have to think about it.

 

ETA: Peyton at 3.06 is decent value. Plus I got Wayne too which is always fun. Didn't really want to go QB here, but felt like it was the play based on how the draft has played out so far.

[FeelingMN 273]

I was ready to pull the trigger on Welker. Thanks Rice

 

 

Plan B was to take the best available RB. There was another back I strongly considered, but I'm not entirely sure how he's going to be used throughout the year....and he plays a tougher schedule. So I opted for Grant, a player I was cool on earlier this preseason but after reading up on him I've decided he'll have plenty of opportunity to shine this year.

 

GB has a potent offense and a decent schedule. McCarthy has indicated he wants to run the ball more, so Grant should benefit. Plus, I don't see GB throwing as much inside the 10 this year. Another plus for Grant.

 

Though I'm high on LT this year, it'd be foolish not to have a steady RB2 just in case. Drafting Grant here ensures I get solid RB production no matter what, with the potential to score 25+ TDs between my two backs.

[mobb_deep 920]

I was ready to pull the trigger on Welker. Thanks Rice

 

I was praying Welker would fall to me too.

 

Alas he didn't so I went with the next WR on my list Dwayne Bowe. Usually I don't go WR/RB/WR, but looking at the available players and managers behind me, I feel I can address some other needs in the 4th round.

[Dan 66]

See, in my draft sheet, I had Welker falling to me. Of course, then I woke up . . .

 

This is the guy I would have taken ahead of Colston. The only one.

[remote controller 143]

What they hell. I have NEVER tried this before, so now is as good a time as ever, and this is PPR. I now have the top Qb, Wr, and TE.

[Dan 66]

Witten was a "had to happen" type selection. This is about where he falls to, and someone inevitably realizes that he is the best value on the board.

 

Nice job, remote. I'll be watching your new approach.

[Vikings4ever 550]

WW hasn't been around in a while. Dan, can you shoot him a text?

[Dan 66]

What they hell. I have NEVER tried this before, so now is as good a time as ever, and this is PPR. I now have the top Qb, Wr, and TE.

 

Next, it'll be dreads and a tattoo.

 

I don't even know you . . .

[Dan 66]

WW hasn't been around in a while. Dan, can you shoot him a text?

 

Done.

[RicemanX 20]

Hey sorry about the Welker pick guys. I know you were all praying that he would drop a little more.

I've seen the guy getting grabbed in the 2nd round in some PPR leagues...thought it was the right time for the guy. Don't think it was a steal...it was the right pick at the right time.

Plus, I really like my Brady/Welker combo.

[Vikings4ever 550]

Damn, really wanted Whosyourmomma

[WhiteWonder 2,734]

Welker is a PPR machine. Not a sexy pick as you won't get the applause from the crowd like some other guys, but when it's all said and done this guy will be a top 8 scoring WR in this format.

 

ill applaud Welker all f'in day long. He is a lock for 100 and 1k and he finished 10th amongst WR's in PPR formats last year while only scoring 3 TD's... The season before, with Brady, he scored 8... So i'll play it safe and say he has 6 scores this year.

[WhiteWonder 2,734]

Damn, really wanted Whosyourmomma

 

This pick was almost less about a single guy standing out to me as much as it was about strategy based on the teams picking after me.

 

Could have gone a few ways but decided I could wait on other positions.

 

TJ Housh was my top WR left. If he and his QB stay healthy, I see no reason he can't hit 90 receptions and maybe even score 10 TD's.

[mobb_deep 920]

This pick was almost less about a single guy standing out to me as much as it was about strategy based on the teams picking after me.

 

Could have gone a few ways but decided I could wait on other positions.

 

TJ Housh was my top WR left. If he and his QB stay healthy, I see no reason he can't hit 90 receptions and maybe even score 10 TD's.

 

I have Housh on my "do not draft list", but I can't fault you for taking him right there. I just see the classic journeyman #2 WR gets traded and becomes the #1, only to disappoint story unfolding here. Just looking back the last 3 or 4 years @ WR's from similar situations that went to Seattle and fell off the radar... Branch, Burleson... Housh?

 

Do not want!

[remote controller 143]

I almost took Housh before i embarked on the great experiment with Witten. I feel he grabs close to 90 receptions and 8 to 9 TD's. I decided Witten - TO meant redzone opps. The Cowboys were in the top 5-10 in passing in the redzone last season, and Witten will definitly be the predominant receiver this year.

[RicemanX 20]

I have Housh on my "do not draft list", but I can't fault you for taking him right there. I just see the classic journeyman #2 WR gets traded and becomes the #1, only to disappoint story unfolding here. Just looking back the last 3 or 4 years @ WR's from similar situations that went to Seattle and fell off the radar... Branch, Burleson... Housh?

 

Do not want!

Agreed. Always thought Housh was in a similar situation as Peerless Price a few years back

[remote controller 143]

I have Housh on my "do not draft list", but I can't fault you for taking him right there. I just see the classic journeyman #2 WR gets traded and becomes the #1, only to disappoint story unfolding here. Just looking back the last 3 or 4 years @ WR's from similar situations that went to Seattle and fell off the radar... Branch, Burleson... Housh?

 

Do not want!

Housh is different though, and lets then add in Engram, who's spot Housh is taking in this offense. He caught many passes for Hass. Branch and Burleson are field stretchers who can be taken out of games with game planning. Housh will be all over in the gaps, moving chains and with LBs on him quite often. He needs burleson to stretch the field some, but he will be making plenty of 10 yard grabs, hopefully in the payzone!

[Clash of the Titans 1]

hello me lovelies....i will be along with a pick very shortly.......

[Vikings4ever 550]

Peerless Price had 1 good year, then hit FA

Deion Branch had 1 decent year, then hit FA

Nate Burleson had 1 decent year, got hurt the next, then hit free agency

 

TJ has had 3 consecutive years of 90+ receptions, and 5 of 900+ receiving yards.

[WhiteWonder 2,734]

I have Housh on my "do not draft list", but I can't fault you for taking him right there. I just see the classic journeyman #2 WR gets traded and becomes the #1, only to disappoint story unfolding here. Just looking back the last 3 or 4 years @ WR's from similar situations that went to Seattle and fell off the radar... Branch, Burleson... Housh?

 

Do not want!

 

 

Agreed. Always thought Housh was in a similar situation as Peerless Price a few years back

 

 

everyone is entitled to their opinion and Housh could very well end up being a huge bust, but if you don't mind me asking... how does Housh come even close to qualifying as a "journeyman"? I'm pretty sure he played his entire career up until now with the same team and has been a productive starter the last 5 years.

 

And to compare him to Branch, Burleson and Price is pretty unfair. None of those guys have had the careers Housh has had up to this point. Price is the ultimate one hit wonder for his '02 season. Burleson has just never been very good and Branch's regular season was never close to TJ's. His Super Bowl performances were great but for fantasy pusposes he never had 80 catches or 1000 yards or even 6 scores in any year.

[NAn 39]

really like Owens value there...little hit b/c of ppr, but could put up nice TD's again.

 

great spot for Welker as well...ppr gold this kid is.

 

grant is decent mid 3rd, and even better late 3rd value wise. not so much ppr, and definitely a disappointment for where most drafted him last year, but numbers were good for low end #2rb in standard scoring, alot being his 4tds....think that was a bit of an anomaly and if he gets same yds as last yr or 100 or so more, 8-10tds nice value at this pt.

 

personally concerned about bowe...I know the demotion to 2nd team likely a coaching control thing, but also read/heard where he came into camp heavier and a step slower.

 

can't go wrong with TJ here in 3rd....ppr increases value and I know there's some stigma about WRs going to new teams (I may have to research the validity of the FF urban myth), but think TJ showed past couple years he's definitely #1 NFL WR material and could do real well with Hawks.

 

that's probably a bit earlier than I'd like to take Witten but can't fault him there, especially as more or less where he goes in recent mocks.

with that said now you have a shot at 1rb here then no picks for awhile RC. I know having top guys at few positions will go a ways but only so far if you can't get at least decent production from RBs. I personally would have looked closely at rb/rb here at 3/4 turn.

[NAn 39]

Peerless Price had 1 good year, then hit FA

Deion Branch had 1 decent year, then hit FA

Nate Burleson had 1 decent year, got hurt the next, then hit free agency

 

TJ has had 3 consecutive years of 90+ receptions, and 5 of 900+ receiving yards.

 

acreed.

 

those others aren't even in same hemisphere as TJ.

 

And as far as '#2 wr who goes to another team to be a #1'....look at the numbers. TJ doesn't get hype that CJ does, he just goes out there and does his job. He was far and away the number ONE last yr and debatably 2 years ago as well.

[remote controller 143]

acreed.

 

those others aren't even in same hemisphere as TJ.

 

And as far as '#2 wr who goes to another team to be a #1'....look at the numbers. TJ doesn't get hype that CJ does, he just goes out there and does his job. He was far and away the number ONE last yr and debatably 2 years ago as well.

agreed, and completely different styles of receivers than Housh. Housh does the dirty stuff! They are pretty boys.