***Official Week 17 Eagles vs. Cowboys thread***

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

want to place a bet on this game....I am certain dallas will win.......

 

I'll place a bet on the playoff game, because I'm certain Dallas will lose, regardless of who they play.

[sirensong 111]

So how is it that both teams are even on special teams, even though the Eagles have Jackson returning punts? He's the pro bowl return guy for the NFC. How can that not be an advantage? Additionally, Dallas in on their second placekicker of the season. Folk got cut in favor of a guy who couldn't kick in Washington. The Eagles have David Akers, whom I believe was voted to the Pro Bowl.

 

Care to rethink that one again?

 

good points, but some things to consider...

 

1. jackson is good--there's no arguing it. he has the same # of TDs as crayton. both averages are impressive: 16.0 and 12.9. jackson has 7 x 20+yd returns, and crayton has 6. so the eagles hold an advantage in the return game, but either team is capable of taking it to the house.

 

2. OTOH, dallas has a distinct edge in punting. they have arguably the best punter in football, and the guy specializes in neutralizing returners. mcbriar has a significantly better gross avg, net avg, inside 20 rate, and FC rate. in the last matchup, jackson only managed to return 1 out of 5 punts.

 

so minus the hype, i think the punting game is pretty even.

 

you are dead right about the kicking game, though, and that's enough to give a total sepcial teams edge to the eagles.

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

good points, but some things to consider...

 

1. jackson is good--there's no arguing it. he has the same # of TDs as crayton. both averages are impressive: 16.0 and 12.9. jackson has 7 x 20+yd returns, and crayton has 6. so the eagles hold an advantage in the return game, but either team is capable of taking it to the house.

 

2. OTOH, dallas has a distinct edge in punting. they have arguably the best punter in football, and the guy specializes in neutralizing returners. mcbriar has a significantly better gross avg, net avg, inside 20 rate, and FC rate. in the last matchup, jackson only managed to return 1 out of 5 punts.

 

so minus the hype, i think the punting game is pretty even.

 

you are dead right about the kicking game, though, and that's enough to give a total sepcial teams edge to the eagles.

 

I can live with that reasoning.

 

Sav Rocca sucks azz. The most inconsistent punter in the NFL.

 

The one thing that tends to negate the Eagle special teams advantage is penalties.

[sirensong 111]

I can live with that reasoning.

 

Sav Rocca sucks azz. The most inconsistent punter in the NFL.

 

The one thing that tends to negate the Eagle special teams advantage is penalties.

 

good to see you posting again. i haven't seen much of you this season, but maybe we're just active in different threads.

 

[doughboys_2002 11]

TROLL

[49ers_suck 0]

Jenkins and Newman, I don't think they're very good cover corners. At all. Jenkins has been very good actually, and Newman is hit or miss

 

Dallas will need to double Jackson. If they don't, they lose.

 

Now where I see the Eagles attacking the Cowboys is in their intermediate routes. With the concern for Jackson, I see he and Maclin running alot of deeper routes. At least one of the safeties will be covering over on Jackson. That should leave the 15-20 yard intermediate routes open for guys like Avant and Celek.

 

Dallas has very mediocre LBs in coverage. I would look for Weaver/McCoy/Westbrook running alot of routes out of the backfield.

 

If the Eagles can protect McNabb, I see Reid spreading out the Dallas defense vertically, giving McNabb plenty of underneath space to pick apart the Dallas defense. IF they can protect mcnabb. Dallas has been very good at hurrassing QB's lately. the quick hitters will be there, but i see him eating turf when he tries to go deep. i think you're underestimating their defense. although, mcnabb is a crafty vet. we shall see on sunday.

[NewbieJr 541]

I'll place a bet on the playoff game, because I'm certain Dallas will lose, regardless of who they play.

Refresh your memory, Ghost. Dooshpipe made a bunch of bets last year about the Cowboys/Eagles game and promised to leave the sight (not sure if it was forever or for a month). Anyway, we all know the ass-kicking the Eagles gave them that day, and assmeg never left.

 

Fock him. he's a poosie and a welcher. Don't bet with him. And only talk to him if you're making fun of him or pointing out how stupid he is.

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

Refresh your memory, Ghost. Dooshpipe made a bunch of bets last year about the Cowboys/Eagles game and promised to leave the sight (not sure if it was forever or for a month). Anyway, we all know the ass-kicking the Eagles gave them that day, and assmeg never left.

 

Fock him. he's a poosie and a welcher. Don't bet with him. And only talk to him if you're making fun of him or pointing out how stupid he is.

Watching the local news here in E-gals country.

 

Trent Cole: "Romo's a hard man to take down, he's an escape artist".

 

McDermott: "What can I say, he's a very good qb. We seen that in our last meeting"

 

Isn't it nice seeing those dirty birds scared of Romo the Jedi lol.

[Eagles Green 34]

Watching the local news here in E-gals country.

 

Trent Cole: "Romo's a hard man to take down, he's an escape artist".

It's true.

Romo has been able to escape a playoff win his whole life.

 

I'm impressed.

[NewbieJr 541]

It's true.

Romo has been able to escape a playoff win his whole life.

 

I'm impressed.

Considering one of those years he was surrounded by 12 Pro Bowlers and has constantly underachieved despite having an owner who supplies him with a great supporting cast, his greatest escape has been from the waiver wire.

[Gepetto 1,368]

Considering one of those years he was surrounded by 12 Pro Bowlers and has constantly underachieved despite having an owner who supplies him with a great supporting cast, his greatest escape has been from the waiver wire.

 

 

He's done nothing but overachieve.

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

considered this is a team no one believes inthat has nothing to lose and has all the talent in the world,they just migh be the scariest team in the NFC

 

this is a statement about the cowboys............good times for the playoffs...........

[Joey Gladstone 33]

considered this is a team no one believes inthat has nothing to lose and has all the talent in the world,they just migh be the scariest team in the NFC

 

this is a statement about the cowboys............good times for the playoffs...........

 

http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...l=dallas_empire

 

http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...0&start=280

 

So where is the evidence of me or any other Hawks fan welching?

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

good to see you posting again. i haven't seen much of you this season, but maybe we're just active in different threads.

 

 

Haven't really had much to discuss. DB's like "Pimpdaddy Blue Star Moron" just make things boring, because they always say the same things with no thoughtful insight.

 

I said it at the very beginning of the season, that Dallas was the team that scared me the most in the division. I also said IMO, the Eagles wouldn't go very far with this defense. To a certain extent, they have proved me wrong, thankfully, however I don't think there are many fans out there predicting Super Bowl.

 

If they don't turn you over, they are a very beatable team. Kilroy seems to disagree, but he also wants TO back in town and thinks Kevin Kolb is a better QB than McNabb. Figure that one out...

 

But that offense can really light it up in a hurry, as long as there is balance to the playcalling. My fear with the return of Westbrook, is a return to old habits (which were bad habits).

 

Looking forward to an exciting game on Sunday, and an interesting playoffs. Hopefully the Eagles can win, so that assures me of at least one home playoff game to go to.

[deejsixer 0]

Jenkins and Newman, I don't think they're very good cover corners. At all.

 

Dallas will need to double Jackson. If they don't, they lose.

 

Now where I see the Eagles attacking the Cowboys is in their intermediate routes. With the concern for Jackson, I see he and Maclin running alot of deeper routes. At least one of the safeties will be covering over on Jackson. That should leave the 15-20 yard intermediate routes open for guys like Avant and Celek.

 

Dallas has very mediocre LBs in coverage. I would look for Weaver/McCoy/Westbrook running alot of routes out of the backfield.

 

If the Eagles can protect McNabb, I see Reid spreading out the Dallas defense vertically, giving McNabb plenty of underneath space to pick apart the Dallas defense.

If you continue to disagree with the Situation, I will cut your hair while you are sleeping...sorry, I lost my head. I've been watching the Jersey Shore for too long.

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

29 yards Jackson should do better than his last performance, and get lets say----31 yards. LOL

 

The six million dollar man-------- 29 yard Jackson. LMAO

 

This is the guy who will burn dallas deep? 29 yards of burning.........

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

Considering one of those years he was surrounded by 12 Pro Bowlers and has constantly underachieved despite having an owner who supplies him with a great supporting cast, his greatest escape has been from the waiver wire.

 

Eagles d is overrated, the Defence is way better Mike Jenkins is the best underrated CB in the league, McChoke has and always is overrated, Mcoy is nothing westbrook is old and washed up and the dallas run d and pass d is on point this year, Cowboys 24, Eagles 6.24 backwards=42

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Eagles d is overrated, the Defence is way better Mike Jenkins is the best underrated CB in the league, McChoke has and always is overrated, Mcoy is nothing westbrook is old and washed up and the dallas run d and pass d is on point this year, Cowboys 24, Eagles 6.24 backwards=42

 

You're pathetic. Here's proof:

 

http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...l=dallas_empire

 

http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...0&start=280

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

Eagles d is overrated, the Defence is way better Mike Jenkins is the best underrated CB in the league, McChoke has and always is overrated, Mcoy is nothing westbrook is old and washed up and the dallas run d and pass d is on point this year, Cowboys 24, Eagles 6.24 backwards=42

 

"the best underrated CB in the league"...is that even English?

 

Thanks Blue Empire Pimp.

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

"the best underrated CB in the league"...is that even English?

 

Thanks Blue Empire Pimp.

Ive only been to philly once, but it did seem like there were lots of pansies there. Men seem a little girlish to me, just sayin.

 

Then again, your championshipless football teams a little girly too.

 

You philly fans are filled with so much hatred from your continued choking every year that you have to resort to throwing batteries at players. The city of philadelphia anf thier fans are a disgrace to the US and the NFL.

[Joey Gladstone 33]

Ive only been to philly once, but it did seem like there were lots of pansies there. Men seem a little girlish to me, just sayin.

 

Then again, your championshipless football teams a little girly too.

 

You philly fans are filled with so much hatred from your continued choking every year that you have to resort to throwing batteries at players. The city of philadelphia anf thier fans are a disgrace to the US and the NFL.

 

http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...l=dallas_empire

 

http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...0&start=280

 

They didn't choke in this game. You did welch on your bet.

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

Ive only been to philly once, but it did seem like there were lots of pansies there. Men seem a little girlish to me, just sayin.

 

Then again, your championshipless football teams a little girly too.

 

You philly fans are filled with so much hatred from your continued choking every year that you have to resort to throwing batteries at players. The city of philadelphia anf thier fans are a disgrace to the US and the NFL.

 

The only disgrace here is your continuing abuse of the English language.

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

The only disgrace here is your continuing abuse of the English language.

You still hanging around? I was hoping the mods had flushed you by now.

[Blue_Star_Wrecking_Crew 0]

 

He's done nothing but overachieve.

Facts:

 

Jason Garrett's offense is ranked #3 in the league.

 

Wade Phillips defense is ranked #3 in the league in points allowed.

 

this team is loaded and top notch......time to show the world go dallas

[GhostofMeanMachine99 1]

You still hanging around? I was hoping the mods had flushed you by now.

 

And if they did, I'd be like you and create 20 more aliases. Loser.

[Blue_Star_Wrecking_Crew 0]

dallas fans:

 

Let Eagles, Skins, Giants fans post all they want. Just don't respond to them. I think that would be hilarious and would give them no reason to post again. It would be perfect to just ignore their post like it never happened. You might get the urge to set them straight, but you can't because there is no way they're going to be quiet. They just want you to get all upset and can't wait to respond to your angry post. Just ignore them when they start a new discussion or try to comment on an existing topic. I doubt enough people will follow this advice but it would be awesome if you guys did. Ignore all opposing fan's post!

[BMoney 0]

oh goody...an alias lecturing to his other 20 aliases....

 

 

we go through this every year....cowboys this and cowboys that....for some odd reason, THIS is the year..better than the rest....

 

and it never ever is that way...1 and out....there are a lot of teams on the brink who go 1 and out also and are ignored....

 

can we wait til the cowboys win their first playoff win since 96 before we start talking about them?

[BiPolarBear 485]

Pro Bowler Jay Ratliff will feast on the Eagles center who is getting his first start at the position.

 

McNabb will eat turf, starting in the first quarter.

[NewbieJr 541]

Pro Bowler Jay Ratliff will feast on the Eagles center who is getting his first start at the position.

This is my biggest concern. The timing of Jackson's injury couldn't have come at a better time for Dallas. Ratliff is a handful for a starting center, let alone a first-time starter.

[Blue_Star_Wrecking_Crew 0]

This is my biggest concern. The timing of Jackson's injury couldn't have come at a better time for Dallas. Ratliff is a handful for a starting center, let alone a first-time starter.

the game will be decided here ratliff against the new philly center..

[Blue_Star_Wrecking_Crew 0]

oh goody...an alias lecturing to his other 20 aliases....

we go through this every year....cowboys this and cowboys that....for some odd reason, THIS is the year..better than the rest....

 

and it never ever is that way...1 and out....there are a lot of teams on the brink who go 1 and out also and are ignored....

 

can we wait til the cowboys win their first playoff win since 96 before we start talking about them?

sure.......but can we wait until the eagles win their first title before talk about them?

[R8RMick 242]

This thread has degenerated into something akin of watching a herd of cattle stampede off a cliff. Since I'm there, I'm wondering what the new alias will be if the Boys choke today.

 

This blows. A big game, I live in Arlington, and the DeathStar is like four miles from the pad. Traffic is going to suck today...

[PsychoBelichickFan 0]

This thread has degenerated into something akin of watching a herd of cattle stampede off a cliff. Since I'm there, I'm wondering what the new alias will be if the Boys choke today.

 

This blows. A big game, I live in Arlington, and the DeathStar is like four miles from the pad. Traffic is going to suck today...

Jerry has turned the death star into a 1 billion dollar strip club........should be a good game

[Cruzer 1,995]

This game is far from over, but I think the Eagles winning streak has been helped by who they played. That defense is getting exposed.

[Blue_Star_Wrecking_Crew 0]

This game is far from over, but I think the Eagles winning streak has been helped by who they played. That defense is getting exposed.

the eagles are done....they are being exposed as frauds.

[Cruzer 1,995]

Not gunna lie, I felt really good bout our defense - but the offense is the ones who are dominating. Both teams have blown opportunites, but the Iggs are really struggling to get to Romo.

[Blue_Star_Wrecking_Crew 0]

Not gunna lie, I felt really good bout our defense - but the offense is the ones who are dominating. Both teams have blown opportunites, but the Iggs are really struggling to get to Romo.

the eagles offensive line is being raped

[Cruzer 1,995]

Well, most were right - total ass whipping 2day. Doesn't mean much less we win next week though.

[NewbieJr 541]

Well, most were right - total ass whipping 2day. Doesn't mean much less we win next week though.

I can't see what could possibly change. Only a week's difference. Still in Dallas. Still no center. If the line's not at least 10, I may bet on Dallas.

[Blue_Star_Wrecking_Crew 0]

I can't see what could possibly change. Only a week's difference. Still in Dallas. Still no center. If the line's not at least 10, I may bet on Dallas.

 

hope you like my new sig........