The Rage Is Not About Health Care

[Vikings4ever 550]

I hope you're talking about Johnny B Good, because I wasn't wrong about anything.

 

TIA

You were 50% wrong. Northern got it right in both instances.

[jerryskids 6,797]

I'm curious JK - if somehow Hayworth wins the primary, can he win the general? Not aware of anyone on the D side save Pederson, and I'm not aware if he's running again or not. It would be embarrassing to have that guy representing our state.

I haven't honestly looked at the Dem side. I suppose I will as the election approaches. I would expect whoever wins the Rep primary will win the state.

[DAVID RUFFIN 2]

Someone needs to ask a 5th grader to settle this.

[FeelingMN 273]

Far from being an English major.

 

I had German from 9th-12th grade. Having to translate helped me learn more proper English (even if I still English talk good).

 

You're like a Northwoods Shakespeare. You're the bard of these boreds.

[Greedo 13]

Actually no they wouldn't. Because this bill provides no services nor creates any jobs.

Deficit spending for the sake of deficit spending doesn't do anything Keynes espoused. His theory was deficit spending would spurn the economy because it would transfer money from the government to the people in the form of infrastructure construction and such. However, the only thing this will do is require people to pay insurance premiums and tax more.

 

The stimulus package, now that's Keynesianism at it's finest.

 

However I haven't seen a new road or bridge anywhere being worked on.

 

My bad - I thought the trillion dollar bill you were referring to was the stimulus bill.

 

I've listed roads and bridges in the past and tire of it. I have customers doing stimulus work now. I can't speak to why that's not happening in WI, though I've heard stimulus funds are building a light rail of some kind from Milwaukee to Madison - not sure why.

 

The far right NEEDS to define this party. Centrists are fiscally ruining us.

 

I seriously doubt that you read more news daily from more different sources than I.

Oh I know....I know how you liberals think us knuckledraggers can't spell, understand economics, or debate intelligently the limitations of Constitutional Government, and that I'm too busy watching Fox news to pay attention to the fuckin lesbian on MSNBC try to paint the Republican party as a bunch of biggots and haters while she does her best Tom Cruise impersonation.

 

The reality is I'm quite intelligent, quite well read and extremely enthusiastic about my politics and current events.

 

Maybe you should do some reading. You did know that Martin Luther King was a Republican, right?

Did you also know that the Democratic party voted almost in lockstep agains the Civil Rights Act?

Yeah..that's what I thought.

 

The Republicans pushed the Civil Rights Act through Congress. Call me a fuckin racist.

 

As far as Keynesian spending, of course you're brash about it.

You're in banking. Shocking that you're a fan of Keynesianism and the Federal Reserve when you get to partake in Fractional Reserve Banking.

You guys get to 'create' your own money and loan it out at interest to the workerbees who just want their own hive.

And if the SHTF and the economy tanks you get to take their homes from them. Slavery doesn't require chains in the 21st century.

But I digress.....

 

Look...you're an intelligent, educated man. But if you're gonna put your dog in the fight, don't bring the fuckin poodle and expect that I'm going to tell my dog to 'go easy'.

 

Am I pissed? Do I get worked up?

You're fuckin right I do.

 

I've been sitting alone in our newest expansion office 5 hours from home for the last 18 months, waiting for the phone to ring.

Which it never does. The economy is in the fuckin shitter and I'm slowly watching the company my Dad spent his entire retirement on go down the tubes, partially because of the sh1t that banks did (only to subsequently get bailed out later by the same people they fuckd), and you have the fuckin gall to rub it in my nose and say "your side lost...too bad".

 

And you honestly wonder why people are threatening politicians?

 

Now who's the knuckledragger who doesn't "get it"?

 

The previous administration - the far right, was fiscally irresponsible. You think centrists are the problem? I guess we can just disagree there.

 

And I thought we were discussing modern politics - there's no question that the Dems and GOP of today do not resemble what they looked like in the 60s. The shift of the south from D to R, as one example, has been well documented. Not sure how that defeats any points I made. Nor did I call you a racist.

 

My bank is self funding, and does not borrow from the fed. Nor did it take TARP. And if you think banks are happy taking back real estate, you've got rocks in your head. They're incompetent at owning and managing it, just like they would be running operating companies - it's not what they do well. Everything is a conspiracy to you, but it's just not that simple.

 

And I do say "your side lost". Your belief system lost in the last election, this is a simple fact. Now you must deal with the consequences, just like I had to from 2000-2008, when I had to watch our balanced budget pissed away and our constitutional rights stomped upon. Back then, people asked me on this board "why do you hate America?" But boy, now that you disagree with the status, you think it's ok to threaten politicians?

 

You're a legend in your own mind, I guess. I would expect you to say that you "owned" some thread when you simply post your opinions and pat yourself on the back. But I didn't decide to "wait for the phone to ring" and hope the economy would magically recover, and ###### about Armegeddon coming for the past 3 years. (It hasn't, BTW, and while weak, the economy is slowly recovering). I'm actively working to lend money and provide business owners with a partner they can trust and be confident in. While your worldview may not appreciate the banking sector, the basic lending concepts to businesses are sound. There will always be the bad apples, and yes, they caused a lot of problems for people that didn't deserve it, in sectors of banking other than mine, particularly investment banking, real estate, and derivative products. But you have the option to take where we are as given at this point, and decide what you're going to do to help fix it.

[BLS 314]

The previous administration - the far right, was fiscally irresponsible. You think centrists are the problem? I guess we can just disagree there.

 

And I thought we were discussing modern politics - there's no question that the Dems and GOP of today do not resemble what they looked like in the 60s. The shift of the south from D to R, as one example, has been well documented. Not sure how that defeats any points I made. Nor did I call you a racist.

 

My bank is self funding, and does not borrow from the fed. Nor did it take TARP. And if you think banks are happy taking back real estate, you've got rocks in your head. They're incompetent at owning and managing it, just like they would be running operating companies - it's not what they do well. Everything is a conspiracy to you, but it's just not that simple.

 

And I do say "your side lost". Your belief system lost in the last election, this is a simple fact. Now you must deal with the consequences, just like I had to from 2000-2008, when I had to watch our balanced budget pissed away and our constitutional rights stomped upon. Back then, people asked me on this board "why do you hate America?" But boy, now that you disagree with the status, you think it's ok to threaten politicians?

 

You're a legend in your own mind, I guess. I would expect you to say that you "owned" some thread when you simply post your opinions and pat yourself on the back. But I didn't decide to "wait for the phone to ring" and hope the economy would magically recover, and ###### about Armegeddon coming for the past 3 years. (It hasn't, BTW, and while weak, the economy is slowly recovering). I'm actively working to lend money and provide business owners with a partner they can trust and be confident in. While your worldview may not appreciate the banking sector, the basic lending concepts to businesses are sound. There will always be the bad apples, and yes, they caused a lot of problems for people that didn't deserve it, in sectors of banking other than mine, particularly investment banking, real estate, and derivative products. But you have the option to take where we are as given at this point, and decide what you're going to do to help fix it.

 

 

I was suggest Bush and his administration were Centrists. There weren't Conservatives by any means.

I think we both agree on that subject, so let's let that die.

 

I'm fully aware banks don't want the houses. They can't make money off people if there isn't someone buying them.

I understand that you and your bank probably run a quality establishment. I knew my insinuation wouldn't go over well and in all honesty it wasn't fair.

For the record, I never said it was "OK to threaten politicians". I said I UNDERSTOOD. Let's not mince words ok?

 

I didn't have a choice on waiting for the phone to ring, unless I wanted to throw away 13 years of tenure to enter a saturated and dead job market.

Yeah, I'm a chicken little. I'll admit it. I saw the writing on the wall, tried to tell everyone and got dismissed for it.

Now that it's here and happened, everyone wants to say "we're not heading for economic collapse...just relax".

Well, I respectfully disagree. The economy is NOT better.

You can blow all the sunshine up my rear hole till my nostrils are white hot you want, but many rational people are convinced it's not over.

The same ones who said it was coming, BTW.

So, whatever...we disagree. I hope I'm wrong.

 

Help fix it? Do you think that giving loans to cash strapped businesses is 'helping the economy'?

Please brother.....so some guy is desperate to keep his business alive, takes a loan to make payroll for the next 3 months and hopes that the economy recovers and that's "helping"? I realize it's not that simple, but c'mon. Good luck collecting from him when all he has to give you is his overpriced, undervalued home you don't want.

 

We disagree. I get it.

We'd BOTH do better to leave the condescension at the login next time.

 

I hope you're right...and I'm wrong.

But I live in the real world. I see what it's like to watch a once very flourishing, well-lead company lay off 25% of it's staff inside of 12 months.

Something we've never done in 15 years of business. I watched another guy get the axe last week. 2 days before his 10 year anniversary with the company. That's what I see....and there's nothing positive about it when the President of the company asks all the employees to make sure all of their equipment and lights get turned off at the end of the day so we can save $100 on our $2500 electric bill.

[NewbieJr 541]

You were 50% wrong. Northern got it right in both instances.

Good theory, except I wasn't wrong at all. Must have me confused with someone else. Me...and the I, were correct. Just as I said.

[peenie 1,915]

as much as i'd love to jump on the "racist/sexist" theme of why the right is so against obama's policies, i just can't.

at least half of the people i know have real concerns and doubts.

my sister's mother in law CRIED when the healthcare bill passed.

she HATES obama, is a hardcore republican and is black.

my grandmother doesn't think he knows what he is doing.

even my liberal pro-black friends don't like the healthcare bill.

i just don't think this is a white/black thing.

let me take that back, it may be a black thing for whites, but it's a policy thing for blacks.

[MDC 7,425]

I was suggest Bush and his administration were Centrists. There weren't Conservatives by any means.

 

Not to get in the way of your pissing contest, but Bush and his admin were by no means "Centrists." They were more like a Frankenstein monster of sh1tty ideas from both extremist fringes.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,430]

On 3/30/2010 at 10:05 AM, GutterBoy said:

 

 

Obama/Osama is a common mixup, lots of people, supporters and haters have said this. Hussein is his middle name. I'll give you the fact that some people will say this stuff because they disagree with him, but I fail to see how that's racist. What's racist is when people call him HNIC or monkey or towelhead.

Lol. Now that Gutterboy is a woketard, calling Obama by his middle name is racist.  Too funny. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Lol. Now that Gutterboy is a woketard, calling Obama by his middle name is racist.  Too funny. 

Lol, look at this high testosterone alpha male searching my old posts looking for a gotcha on a low rent message board.

Such a sad pathetic little douche.

For the record, if after all these years, you're still calling him Hussein, then I think you're probably being a racist.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Jesus, some of you guys need to get a life  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,430]

. Oh and Worms, Obamacare is a failure. Take your bows. 

[MDC 7,425]

29 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Jesus, some of you guys need to get a life  

One in particular.