College Conference Realignments

[Chronic Husker 85]

What this college football thread could really use is more arrogant French lessons.

[Thornton Melon 544]

Hey, I know.....let's get the government involved!!!!

[jocstrap 8]

Big Ten is the cash cow of the NCAA even before these TV deals

SEC: 2.2billion 15yr deal with espn

Big Ten network made 209million in 2009. Twice what it did in 2008 and it's still drastically increasing.

In 10 years the BTN will lap the SECs tv deal. And they own it as well.

 

it used to be that ND wouldn't join the Big Ten because of their nbc tv deal, they'd lose money. Now the B10 would actually make

them more money.

 

 

then add up the bowl winnings:)

 

Big 10 is nowhere close to SEC in football. Titles, money, tailgaiting, tradition

 

SEC teams were playing each other in football games before 1/2 of the big 10 schools were even states

[GettnHuge 1]

then add up the bowl winnings:)

what are you talking about

[jocstrap 8]

what are you talking about

 

. But the SEC is home to six of the top 10 moneymakers in the college game: Florida ($66.2 million), Georgia ($65.2 million), Alabama ($64.6 million), LSU ($61.9 million), Auburn ($58.6 million) and South Carolina ($57.1 million).

[GettnHuge 1]

. But the SEC is home to six of the top 10 moneymakers in the college game: Florida ($66.2 million), Georgia ($65.2 million), Alabama ($64.6 million), LSU ($61.9 million), Auburn ($58.6 million) and South Carolina ($57.1 million).

 

Dunno where you get that weak info from but it appears to be excluding revenues

 

The figures come from the U.S. Department of Education’s Office of Postsecondary Education. Each year, the Equity in Athletics Disclosure Act requires schools to report their overall revenues to the Department of Education. (The Naval Academy and U.S. Military Academy did not report their revenues and, therefore, are not included in the chart.)

 

1st Texas $120,288,370 Big 12

2nd Ohio State $117,953,712 Big Ten

3rd Florida $106,030,895 Southeastern Conference

4th Michigan $99,027,105 Big Ten

5th Wisconsin $93,452,334 Big Ten

6th Penn State $91,570,233 Big Ten

7th Auburn $89,305,326 Southeastern Conference

8th Alabama $88,869,810 Southeastern Conference

9th Tennessee $88,719,798 Southeastern Conference

10th Oklahoma State $88,554,438 Big 12

11th Kansas $86,009,257 Big 12

12th Louisiana State $84,183,362 Southeastern Conference

13th Georgia $84,020,180 Southeastern Conference

14th Notre Dame $83,352,439 Independent

15th Iowa $81,148,310 Big Ten

16th Michigan State $77,738,746 Big Ten

17th Oklahoma $77,098,009 Big 12

18th Stanford $76,661,466 Pac-10

19th University of Southern California $76,409,919 Pac-10

20th Nebraska $75,492,884 Big 12

[jocstrap 8]

Dunno where you get that weak info from but it appears to be excluding revenues

 

The figures come from the U.S. Department of Education’s Office of Postsecondary Education. Each year, the Equity in Athletics Disclosure Act requires schools to report their overall revenues to the Department of Education. (The Naval Academy and U.S. Military Academy did not report their revenues and, therefore, are not included in the chart.)

 

1st Texas $120,288,370 Big 12

2nd Ohio State $117,953,712 Big Ten

3rd Florida $106,030,895 Southeastern Conference

4th Michigan $99,027,105 Big Ten

5th Wisconsin $93,452,334 Big Ten

6th Penn State $91,570,233 Big Ten

7th Auburn $89,305,326 Southeastern Conference

8th Alabama $88,869,810 Southeastern Conference

9th Tennessee $88,719,798 Southeastern Conference

10th Oklahoma State $88,554,438 Big 12

11th Kansas $86,009,257 Big 12

12th Louisiana State $84,183,362 Southeastern Conference

13th Georgia $84,020,180 Southeastern Conference

14th Notre Dame $83,352,439 Independent

15th Iowa $81,148,310 Big Ten

16th Michigan State $77,738,746 Big Ten

17th Oklahoma $77,098,009 Big 12

18th Stanford $76,661,466 Pac-10

19th University of Southern California $76,409,919 Pac-10

20th Nebraska $75,492,884 Big 12

 

 

But it goes deeper than titles. SEC faithful filled campus stadiums to 98 percent of capacity this fall, the 12th consecutive season the conference topped the country in football attendance. A very good read below of the money

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/otl/news/st...age=fish/091218

 

 

Kramer said the SEC had contracts with four bowl games prior to the BCS. Today, the conference has eight guaranteed bowl spots and, because of a lucrative at-large spot with the BCS, often has a chance for nine.

 

http://blog.al.com/bn/2008/02/how_the_sec_got_rich.html

 

 

THEN YOU HAVE THIS GETTNHUGE - I'm going to give you a victory on this topic vs Jocstrap

It is no accident the increasing wealth of the SEC coincides with football's growth in popularity. Football revenue at schools in the SEC and the Big Ten, the two most lucrative conferences, accounts for 57 percent and 49 percent of their income, respectively.

 

In 2006-07, five of the top nine football-revenue schools came from the SEC: Georgia ($59.5 million), Florida ($58.9 million), Auburn ($56.8 million), Alabama ($53.2 million) and LSU ($48.1 million).

 

Through television contracts, marketing and bowl games, the SEC has become a financial giant along with the Big Ten, whose schools averaged $70.4 million in revenue in 2006-07, slightly more than the SEC's $66.8 million.

 

http://blog.al.com/bn/2008/02/how_the_sec_got_rich.html

 

 

Unfortunately, I can't find anything from the 2009 season and statistics. The bottom line is that both the SEC and Big 10 have a very good thing going. Why in the world would they wan't to mess things up by bringing in weaker to teams to their respcetive conferences? Only bring in the new big dawgs

 

Nebraska to the Big 10 - yes this could be be good

Notre Dame to the Big 10 - yes this could be good

Kansas' and Missiouri's and Iowa State's - NO THANK YOU

 

Memphis, Baylor, Louisville to the SEC no thank you

OU and TEXAS - Hell ya

 

After reading several revenue articles, I think the Big 10 and SEC are very secure. No reason should they bring in the weaker schools that need financial support. Bring in the better schools in black, and make the season even better.

 

I had no idea the Big 10 was doing so well....I learned a lot today GettnHuge

[MedStudent 56]

then add up the bowl winnings:)

 

Big 10 is nowhere close to SEC in football. Titles, money, tailgaiting, tradition

 

SEC teams were playing each other in football games before 1/2 of the big 10 schools were even states

 

Titles - Big Ten has more

Tradition - Big Ten - Both Michigan and Ohio State have more victories than any SEC School.

Heisman winners - Big Ten

Produced more super bowl winning qb's - Big Ten

Year of first black player- Big Ten: 1891. SEC:1966.

Big Ten traditionally plays in the oldest and most prestigious bowl (The Rose Bowl)

 

The bolded line is an idiotic statement. Try using facts to back up your arguments

[jocstrap 8]

Titles - Big Ten has more

Tradition - Big Ten - Both Michigan and Ohio State have more victories than any SEC School.

Heisman winners - Big Ten

Produced more super bowl winning qb's - Big Ten

Year of first black player- Big Ten: 1891. SEC:1966. Big Ten traditionally plays in the oldest and most prestigious bowl (The Rose Bowl)

 

The bolded line is an idiotic statement. Try using facts to back up your arguments

 

Here come some facts...

 

 

NO sh!t on the highlighted one - they were almost still slaves down here then

 

Then you have this one ...

The Southeastern Conference had 263 players on the 2007 National Football League opening day active rosters, which led all conferences

 

and this...

 

Which is the top all-time NCAA college football national championship conference?

Listed below and to the right is the order of conferences with the number of college football national championships in parentheses.

SEC -- (17)

Big 12 – (16)

Big Ten -- (13)

ACC -- (9)

Pac-10 -- (4)

Big East -- (3)

You can see that Florida's win over the Big 12's Oklahoma in the 2009 BCS Championship Game; followed by Alabama's win over the Big 12's Texas in 2010 were huge as they allowed the SEC to leap-frog the Big 12 for the all-time lead. [Note, the SEC has won 4 straight -- no other conference has ever won 4 straight NC's -- no one else, ever!]

http://www.secsportsfan.com/top-all-time-n...conference.html

 

What NCAA conference has the most active NFL players?

THE SEC as of 2008 with 259

 

I could find a counter statement for all your examples above

 

 

and tell me how many games youve actually attended you med dork. You're barely in college and probably have never been out tailgaiting at LSU, OU, MSU, , OU VS TEX, OU vs NEB, MSU VS FLA, AL, TN. What college are you at again?

 

So you think you know politics, you think you know football, what does a doctor not know?

[GettnHuge 1]

How did this turn into a championships and nfl players deal? This is about conference expansion and the financial situations

at the center of it.

 

SEC has 12 teams

they signed a 15yr 2.25billion dollar tv contract

That comes out to 150million per year

or 12.5million per team

 

Big10 has 11 teams

they have their own network that brings in over 200m and increasing

or 19million per team

big ten also has deals with abc/espn for some games

[phillybear 364]

The SEC football conference is the most overrated conference/division in sports history. Every focking year, you get one or two teams with good records, because they beat up on the Kentuckys, Miss Sts, and Vanderbilts, and some cream puff non conference teams like Sun Belt teams. A bunch of 6-6 and 5-7 teams, and they are worshiped. What a joke.

 

Boise St would have beaten Alabama on a Saturday afternoon and turned around and beaten Florida that same night. TCU would have done the same. Alabama is a joke. How did that whipping by Utah the year before in a BCS game besmirch their reputation? Utah should have a rematch clause so they could have embarrassed Alabama 2 years in a row and then claimed the mythical national championship.

 

The SEC games are unwatchable. I can't stomach the unimaginative play calling and bland schemes and overrated players. Until we get a playoff system, we will be at the mercy of the SEC bullsh@t hype, and they will continue to boast about winning championships that don't exist by winning a popularity contest by the uninformed sheep voters.

 

The system is broken.

[Me_2006 14]

Every focking year, you get one or two teams with good records, because they beat up on the Kentuckys,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[MedStudent 56]

Here come some facts...

 

 

NO sh!t on the highlighted one - they were almost still slaves down here then

 

Then you have this one ...

The Southeastern Conference had 263 players on the 2007 National Football League opening day active rosters, which led all conferences

 

and this...

 

Which is the top all-time NCAA college football national championship conference?

Listed below and to the right is the order of conferences with the number of college football national championships in parentheses.

SEC -- (17)

Big 12 – (16)

Big Ten -- (13)

ACC -- (9)

Pac-10 -- (4)

Big East -- (3)

You can see that Florida's win over the Big 12's Oklahoma in the 2009 BCS Championship Game; followed by Alabama's win over the Big 12's Texas in 2010 were huge as they allowed the SEC to leap-frog the Big 12 for the all-time lead. [Note, the SEC has won 4 straight -- no other conference has ever won 4 straight NC's -- no one else, ever!]

http://www.secsportsfan.com/top-all-time-n...conference.html

 

What NCAA conference has the most active NFL players?

THE SEC as of 2008 with 259

 

I could find a counter statement for all your examples above

 

 

and tell me how many games youve actually attended you med dork. You're barely in college and probably have never been out tailgaiting at LSU, OU, MSU, , OU VS TEX, OU vs NEB, MSU VS FLA, AL, TN. What college are you at again?

 

So you think you know politics, you think you know football, what does a doctor not know?

 

Try getting info from a non-SEC fan site and actually count the schools: http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/champions_national.html

 

Big Ten national championships in football:

 

Illinois - 1

Michigan - 6

Ohio State - 5

Minnesota - 6

Michigan State - 2

Former Big 10 School Chicago - 1

21 Football championships

 

Current member Penn State won a bunch before joining the big 10 as well.

 

I admit the SEC has better football right now. But don't think it always has or it will always have better football in the future.

 

So, i'm barely in college? I'm a college graduate. I am in medical school. I went to Michigan (class of '08). In my 4 years Michigan was 2-0 against SEC teams.

Besides tailgating at Michigan I tailgated at the following schools during my 4 years at school:

Wisconsin

Ohio State

Penn State

Notre Dame

Michigan State

At the Rose Bowl.

 

Since graduating I have tailgated at UCLA a couple of times at the Rose Bowl.

 

The Big Ten has the three largest stadiums in the country and plenty of good tailgating. Not sure what that has to do with anything. I can't compare it to SEC tailgates. I imagine its pretty similar except fewer rednecks. I'd rate Penn State and Wisconsin as the best road tailgating I've been to.

[jocstrap 8]

The SEC games are unwatchable. I can't stomach the unimaginative play calling and bland schemes and overrated players. Until we get a playoff system, we will be at the mercy of the SEC bullsh@t hype, and they will continue to boast about winning championships that don't exist by winning a popularity contest by the uninformed sheep voters.

 

The system is broken.

 

 

this is wrong in so many ways. Florida was bland play calling during their National Championship runs?

 

Arkansas was bland with McFadden and Felix and their razorback formation?

 

S.C I assure you is not bland with Spurrier

 

the list goes on and on

 

Alabama last year - yes - so focking boring - - even their fans were saying that about there own team, but then again why change when you're undefeated?

[phillybear 364]

this is wrong in so many ways. Florida was bland play calling during their National Championship runs?

 

Arkansas was bland with McFadden and Felix and their razorback formation?

 

S.C I assure you is not bland with Spurrier

 

the list goes on and on

 

Alabama last year - yes - so focking boring - - even their fans were saying that about there own team, but then again why change when you're undefeated?

 

Have you seen Nevada run their Pistol offense? Have you watched Hawaii and SMU under June Jones? Have you watched any game involving two MAC teams in the last 15 years? There are exciting things going on out there in the college football world. Not in the SEC, where play calling is straight from the 1960s.

 

Now, Urban Meyer is pretty good at what he does, which is catching AIDS, but his play calling was much imaginative when he was at Utah.

 

I'm just saying there are many more interesting games to watch week to week than the boring SEC, in which nearly every team runs the ball up the gut 25 times in a row, keep punting, and hope to get 2 turnovers on defense to win 6-3. Yawn.

[jocstrap 8]

Have you seen Nevada run their Pistol offense? Have you watched Hawaii and SMU under June Jones? Have you watched any game involving two MAC teams in the last 15 years? There are exciting things going on out there in the college football world. Not in the SEC, where play calling is straight from the 1960s.

 

Now, Urban Meyer is pretty good at what he does, which is catching AIDS, but his play calling was much imaginative when he was at Utah.

 

I'm just saying there are many more interesting games to watch week to week than the boring SEC, in which nearly every team runs the ball up the gut 25 times in a row, keep punting, and hope to get 2 turnovers on defense to win 6-3. Yawn.

FLORIDA

Sat. April 18 Orange and Blue Spring Game 1:00 P.M.

Sat. Sept. 5 W 62-3 Charleston Southern 7:00 P.M. SUN TV

Sat. Sept. 12 W 56-6 Troy 12:20 P.M. SEC TV

Sat. Sept. 19 W 23-13 Tennessee 3:30 P.M. CBS

Sat. Sept. 26 W 41-7 at Kentucky 6:00 P.M. espn2 (Lexington KY)

Sat. Oct. 10 W 13-3 at LSU 8:00 P.M. CBS (Baton Rouge LA)

Sat. Oct. 17 W 23-20 Arkansas 3:30 P.M. CBS (Homecoming)

Sat. Oct. 24 W 29-19 at Mississippi State 7:30 P.M. ESPN (Starkville MS)

Sat. Oct. 31 W 41-17 Georgia 3:30 P.M. CBS (Jacksonville FL)

Sat. Nov. 7 W 27-3 Vanderbilt 7:15 P.M. espn2

Sat. Nov. 14 W 24-14 at South Carolina 3:30 P.M. CBS (Columbia SC)

Sat. Nov. 21 W 62-3 Florida International 12:30 P.M. PPV

Sat. Nov. 28 W 37-10 Florida State 3:30 P.M. CBS (Senior Day)

 

Sat. Dec. 5 L 13-32 SEC Championship Game from Atlanta GA 4:00 P.M. CBS

The SEC EAST Champion #1 Florida Gators vs. The SEC West Champion #2 Alabama Crimson Tide

 

Fri. Jan. 1, 2010 W 51-24 BCS Sugar Bowl Game from New Orleans

The #5 Florida Gators (12-1) vs. The #3 Cincinnati Bearcats

 

LSU

September 5 at Washington W 31-23 1-0 (0-0)

September 12 Vanderbilt W 23-9 2-0 (1-0)

September 19 Louisiana-Lafayette W 31-3 3-0 (1-0)

September 26 at Mississippi State W 30-26 4-0 (2-0)

October 3 at No. 18 Georgia W 20-13 5-0 (3-0)

October 10 No. 1 Florida L 13-3 5-1 (3-1)

October 24 Auburn W 31-10 6-1 (4-1)

October 31 Tulane W 42-0 7-1 (4-1)

November 7 at No. 3 Alabama L 24-15 7-2 (4-2)

November 14 Louisiana Tech W 24-16 8-2 (4-2)

November 21 at Mississippi L 25-23 8-3 (4-3)

November 28 Arkansas W 33-30 9-3 (5-3)

January 1 vs. No. 13 Penn State* L 19-17 9-4 (5-3)

 

Georgia

September 5 at No. 9 Oklahoma State L 24-10 0-1 (0-0)

September 12 South Carolina W 41-37 1-1 (1-0)

September 19 at Arkansas W 52-41 2-1 (2-0)

September 26 Arizona State W 20-17 3-1 (2-0)

October 3 No. 4 LSU L 20-13 3-2 (2-1)

October 10 at Tennessee L 45-19 3-3 (2-2)

October 17 at Vanderbilt W 34-10 4-3 (3-2)

October 31 vs. No. 1 Florida* L 41-17 4-4 (3-3)

November 7 Tennessee Tech W 38-0 5-4 (3-3)

November 14 Auburn W 31-24 6-4 (4-3)

November 21 Kentucky L 34-27 6-5 (4-4)

November 28 at No. 7 Georgia Tech W 30-24 7-5 (4-4)

December 28 vs. Texas A&M* W 44-20 8-5 (4-4)

 

South Carolina - - -HA the first game was 7-3

September 3 at North Carolina State W 7-3 1-0 (0-0)

September 12 at No. 21 Georgia L 41-37 1-1 (0-1)

September 19 Florida Atlantic W 38-16 2-1 (0-1)

September 24 No. 4 Mississippi W 16-10 3-1 (1-1)

October 3 South Carolina State W 38-14 4-1 (1-1)

October 10 Kentucky W 28-26 5-1 (2-1)

October 17 at No. 2 Alabama L 20-6 5-2 (2-2)

October 24 Vanderbilt W 14-10 6-2 (3-2)

October 31 at Tennessee L 31-13 6-3 (3-3)

November 7 at Arkansas L 33-16 6-4 (3-4)

November 14 No. 1 Florida L 24-14 6-5 (3-5)

November 28 No. 18 Clemson W 34-17 7-5 (3-5)

January 2 vs. Connecticut* L 20-7 7-6 (3-5)

 

 

Ole Miss

September 6 at Memphis W 45-14 1-0 (0-0)

September 19 Southeastern Louisiana W 52-6 2-0 (0-0)

September 24 at South Carolina L 16-10 2-1 (0-1)

October 3 at Vanderbilt W 23-7 3-1 (1-1)

October 10 No. 3 Alabama L 22-3 3-2 (1-2)

October 17 UAB W 48-13 4-2 (1-2)

October 24 Arkansas W 30-17 5-2 (2-2)

October 31 at Auburn L 33-20 5-3 (2-3)

November 7 Northern Arizona W 38-14 6-3 (2-3)

November 14 Tennessee W 42-17 7-3 (3-3)

November 21 No. 8 LSU W 25-23 8-3 (4-3)

November 28 at Mississippi State L 41-27 8-4 (4-4)

January 2 vs. No. 19 Oklahoma State* W 21-7 9-4 (4-4)

 

 

Alabama

 

September 5 vs. No. 7 Virginia Tech* W 34-24 1-0 (0-0)

September 12 FIU W 40-14 2-0 (0-0)

September 19 North Texas W 53-7 3-0 (0-0)

September 26 Arkansas W 35-7 4-0 (1-0)

October 3 at Kentucky W 38-20 5-0 (2-0)

October 10 at No. 20 Mississippi W 22-3 6-0 (3-0)

October 17 No. 22 South Carolina W 20-6 7-0 (4-0)

October 24 Tennessee W 12-10 8-0 (5-0)

November 7 No. 9 LSU W 24-15 9-0 (6-0)

November 14 at Mississippi State W 31-3 10-0 (7-0)

November 21 Chattanooga W 45-0 11-0 (7-0)

November 27 at Auburn W 26-21 12-0 (8-0)

December 5 vs. No. 1 Florida* W 32-13 13-0 (8-0)

January 7 vs. No. 2 Texas* W 37-21 14-0 (8-0)

 

 

I think you are really wrong on the scores also

 

http://espn.go.com/ncf/teams/schedule?team...3&year=2009

[DanXIII 8]

<!--quoteo(post=4242509:date=Jun 11 2010, 12:48 PM:name=phillybear)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phillybear @ Jun 11 2010, 12:48 PM) <a href="index.php?act=findpost&pid=4242509"><{POST_SNAPBACK}></a></div><div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Have you seen Nevada run their Pistol offense? Have you watched Hawaii and SMU under June Jones? Have you watched any game involving two MAC teams in the last 15 years? There are exciting things going on out there in the college football world. Not in the SEC, where play calling is straight from the 1960s.

 

Now, Urban Meyer is pretty good at what he does, which is catching AIDS, but his play calling was much imaginative when he was at Utah.

 

I'm just saying there are many more interesting games to watch week to week than the boring SEC, in which nearly every team runs the ball up the gut 25 times in a row, keep punting, and hope to get 2 turnovers on defense to win 6-3. Yawn.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

 

Jesus focking Christ...

 

Do you know why Nevada and Hawaii and SMU are able to rack up 1000 years per game? Because they're playing teams comprised of sub-par athletes.

 

 

Pistol Offense <img src="http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

 

[phillybear 364]

I think you are really wrong on the scores also

 

I am making some legitimate points, and you focus on the hyperbole. Sigh.

[GettnHuge 1]

attendance? who gives a flip about attendance? broadcast is the money. hell, harf the ppl in the stands are students who prolly

didn't pay a cent for their ticket. Sure they make money off games, but it's small stuff. Just like the NFL. every team in the league

could play in an empty stadium all year and they'd still make money. It's why the Big Ten is passing up the other conferences in

revenue. SEC has a big football deal with espn for 15yrs and some smaller deals. that's it. espn shows the games, espn sells the ads,

espn makes the profits. sec just gets their yearly contracted pay.

 

Big10 owns it. Big10 shows the games. Big10 also shows ALL their sports. volleyball, tennis, etc etc. Family of student athletes of

low budget sports can actually tune in which they can't do elsewhere. Hell, the other sports that don't make any $ actually have a

chance of profiting off this. The Big10 is also making big money off people who NEVER watch the network. As long as it's in the basic

cable package, the Big10 get their subscriber take, viewer or not. They also make $ of ads.

[jocstrap 8]

I am making some legitimate points, and you focus on the hyperbole. Sigh.

 

 

my bad - I'm just now beginning how to decifer the language of the Phillybear. I still have a long ways to go apparently

[jocstrap 8]

attendance? who gives a flip about attendance? broadcast is the money. hell, harf the ppl in the stands are students who prolly

didn't pay a cent for their ticket. Sure they make money off games, but it's small stuff. Just like the NFL. every team in the league

could play in an empty stadium all year and they'd still make money. It's why the Big Ten is passing up the other conferences in

revenue. SEC has a big football deal with espn for 15yrs and some smaller deals. that's it. espn shows the games, espn sells the ads,

espn makes the profits. sec just gets their yearly contracted pay.

 

Big10 owns it. Big10 shows the games. Big10 also shows ALL their sports. volleyball, tennis, etc etc. Family of student athletes of

low budget sports can actually tune in which they can't do elsewhere. Hell, the other sports that don't make any $ actually have a

chance of profiting off this. The Big10 is also making big money off people who NEVER watch the network. As long as it's in the basic

cable package, the Big10 get their subscriber take, viewer or not. They also make $ of ads.

 

 

we do have fox sports south if you want to watch women's softball and men's baseball

 

gymnastics, swimming, and polo aren't shown very much. The men's NCAA of tennis was aired live on ESPN though!

[GettnHuge 1]

we do have fox sports south if you want to watch women's softball and men's baseball

 

gymnastics, swimming, and polo aren't shown very much. The men's NCAA of tennis was aired live on ESPN though!

 

and we have fox sports ohio which broadcasts other B10 events too. We're probably not making anything off those.

Put em on your own network and you make big $. All that network has to do is be in the cable/sat package and they're getting

10 to 50cents for every customer depending on location. SEC could have gone that route, but they locked in with ESPN which got

a bargain deal at 2.2b for 15yrs. The only advantage that brings is more exposure.

[IAMWood 6]

As a Texas fan, the last conference I want to go to is the Pac-10.

 

My preference would be

 

1. SEC

2. Big 10

3. Pac 10

 

I seriously don't think that the Longhorns want to compete in the SEC. I would love it as a fan, I am not scared, the powers that be seem to be.

 

The Big 10 would bring more money than any from what I understand, but the geographical difference would be annoying but it would be fun to beat up on those teams.

 

The Pac 10 is so lame and weak in my eyes. I think going there would have a negative effect on recruiting.

 

Sad the Big 12 will be no more. I hope whatever shakes out will make things better.

 

[GettnHuge 1]

As a Texas fan, the last conference I want to go to is the Pac-10.

 

My preference would be

 

1. SEC

2. Big 10

3. Pac 10

 

I seriously don't think that the Longhorns want to compete in the SEC. I would love it as a fan, I am not scared, the powers that be seem to be.

 

The Big 10 would bring more money than any from what I understand, but the geographical difference would be annoying but it would be fun to beat up on those teams.

 

The Pac 10 is so lame and weak in my eyes. I think going there would have a negative effect on recruiting.

 

Sad the Big 12 will be no more. I hope whatever shakes out will make things better.

 

 

Texor will go where they will most likely win and where they can take those junk schools with them. pac 10.

[Chronic Husker 85]

As a Texas fan, the last conference I want to go to is the Pac-10.

 

My preference would be

 

1. SEC

2. Big 10

3. Pac 10

 

I seriously don't think that the Longhorns want to compete in the SEC. I would love it as a fan, I am not scared, the powers that be seem to be.

 

The Big 10 would bring more money than any from what I understand, but the geographical difference would be annoying but it would be fun to beat up on those teams.

 

The Pac 10 is so lame and weak in my eyes. I think going there would have a negative effect on recruiting.

 

Sad the Big 12 will be no more. I hope whatever shakes out will make things better.

 

Texor won't go anywhere they can't have their own network, is how I see it. It would probably make the most sense for them to simply create a new Big 12/SWC.

[IAMWood 6]

Texor won't go anywhere they can't have their own network, is how I see it. It would probably make the most sense for them to simply create a new Big 12/SWC.

 

I guess that would be #1 on my list of wishes, will miss Nebraska though. I guess the money is there for Texas to try to go at it fresh for a new Big 12, I just don't see who they could add to have any extra impact. But it would be better than to go to Pac 10, except we would get to continue to dominate the Rose Bowl by going to Pac 10.

[JT 137]

Texor won't go anywhere they can't have their own network, is how I see it. It would probably make the most sense for them to simply create a new Big 12/SWC.

 

Not enough TV sets to compare with the $$$ generated by the Big 10 or Pac 10 markets.

 

They'll end up in the Pac whatever. The Texas legislature won't sign off on them joining the SEC or Big 10 without A&M, and Tech being able to tag along. And the PAC has deeper pockets and more incentive to make an offer they can't refuse. With USC diminished for the next decade, the conference needs a star-power team. Either Texas or Oklahoma has a much higher national profile than anyone in the PACV except the Trojans.

[Gepetto 989]

I wonder if the Big 12 or Mountain West have thought about merging the two conferences into one super conference. That might be good for all of those teams.

[GettnHuge 1]

I wonder if the Big 12 or Mountain West have thought about merging the two conferences into one super conference. That might be good for all of those teams.

 

It's the money. If you combined the tv deals of the Pac10 and Big12, then double it, it might equal just the Big10.

 

In August 2008, the SEC announced its landmark deal with ESPN, a 15-year, $2.25 billion agreement. That deal, combined with the SEC’s 15-year, $825 million agreement with CBS, means all SEC schools should reportedly earn $15-17 million annually from TV revenue this year.

 

Meanwhile, the Big Ten has a 10-year, $1 billion package with ESPN,

They also made 240million from the Big Ten Network last year.

 

In April 2007, the Big 12 announced its latest TV contract extension, an eight-year, $480 million deal with ABC/ESPN that lasts through 2016. According to the deal, the Big 12 gets up to 19 ABC telecasts per season, including the league championship game. The league’s FSN deal is worth $78 million and goes through 2012.

 

 

The Pac10 is no better. You're talking about 2 conferences making multi-billions while the other 2 conferences each making maybe harf a billion.

Or the difference of a team getting maybe 8-10million per year from tv to a team getting 20+million per year. Nobrainer for nebraska. Texor on the

other hand makes enough outside that where it can go to the Pac10 for the same $.

[Gepetto 989]

It's the money. If you combined the tv deals of the Pac10 and Big12, then double it, it might equal just the Big10.

 

In August 2008, the SEC announced its landmark deal with ESPN, a 15-year, $2.25 billion agreement. That deal, combined with the SEC’s 15-year, $825 million agreement with CBS, means all SEC schools should reportedly earn $15-17 million annually from TV revenue this year.

 

Meanwhile, the Big Ten has a 10-year, $1 billion package with ESPN,

They also made 240million from the Big Ten Network last year.

 

In April 2007, the Big 12 announced its latest TV contract extension, an eight-year, $480 million deal with ABC/ESPN that lasts through 2016. According to the deal, the Big 12 gets up to 19 ABC telecasts per season, including the league championship game. The league’s FSN deal is worth $78 million and goes through 2012.

 

 

The Pac10 is no better. You're talking about 2 conferences making multi-billions while the other 2 conferences each making maybe harf a billion.

Or the difference of a team getting maybe 8-10million per year from tv to a team getting 20+million per year. Nobrainer for nebraska. Texor on the

other hand makes enough outside that where it can go to the Pac10 for the same $.

 

How does Texas make their own money outside their conference? Does Texas have a TV deal? I don't think so.

[GettnHuge 1]

How does Texas make their own money outside their conference? Does Texas have a TV deal? I don't think so.

 

tickets, merch and donations. did you know Texor had a ridiculous 30m in donations last year? That's what put it ahead of Ohio St.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Ok, first of all, people trying to make the Big Ten out to be a better conference than the SEC? You are smoking some wacky Sh!t.

 

The SEC is easily the best football conference in America. Other than Michigan (who has sucked lately) and Ohio State, and occasionally a decent Penn State, what teams worth a crap does the Big Ten have?

 

And yes, the SEC teams do beat the crap out of Vandy, UK, and MSU. Just like the Big Ten teams beat the crap out of Indiana, Northwestern, and Illinois. Just like Baylor, Kansas, and Iowa State in the Big Twelve, and Duke, UNC, and NC State in the ACC.

 

Every conference has its doormats.

 

Now, as for the SEC being complacent and reactionary.

 

I GUARANTEE that the Texas schools to the Pac 10 is not a done deal. I GUARANTEE that the SEC is making its pitch too. It would not at all surprise me to find Texas & Co. in the SEC west sometime next week.

 

Truthfully, I'd rather have Clemson, Georgia Tech, Miami and Fla. State anyway. Makes more geographic sense, and each of those schools already has a blood rivalry within the SEC.

[GettnHuge 1]

Ok, first of all, people trying to make the Big Ten out to be a better conference than the SEC? You are smoking some wacky Sh!t.

 

exactly how many times must it be mentioned that this is about money? not heismans or titles or anything. MONEY.

The SEC has about 3billion in deals over the next 15 years, their members get about 16million per year.

The Big10 has a 1billion deal over 10 years, they have their own network which brought in 240million last year alone

and is drastically increasing. That will put them over 3billion in tv deals in only 10 years. Big Ten teams get approx

22million per year from tv. SEC decided not to go with their own network.

 

Big12 and Pac10 teams are lucky if they get 8 million from tv.

 

Financially, Big Ten >>>>> SEC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pac10>>> Big12

[GettnHuge 1]

Texor will go where they will most likely win and where they can take those junk schools with them. pac 10.

 

well there you go. I missed on their decision but I got the mentality exactly right. Texor in the 10 team Big12 without

nebraska should have a free ride to a BCS game every year. Only oklahoma stands in the way.

[jocstrap 8]

Not enough TV sets to compare with the $$$ generated by the Big 10 or Pac 10 markets.

 

They'll end up in the Pac whatever. The Texas legislature won't sign off on them joining the SEC or Big 10 without A&M, and Tech being able to tag along. And the PAC has deeper pockets and more incentive to make an offer they can't refuse. With USC diminished for the next decade, the conference needs a star-power team. Either Texas or Oklahoma has a much higher national profile than anyone in the PACV except the Trojans.

 

 

yea, just look at how flush California is - - - rolling in money I tell ya - - - isn't the state bankrupt now? Or is that just LA

[LunaTick 29]

Big 12 problem is Texas for the loss of team from Big 12. Not invitations from either Pac 10 or Big 10.

 

Texas claims most of the money and power in the Big 12.

Cannot blame Nebraska for wanting to have more control of their destiny and a fair shake of revenues with the Big 10.

OK, OK St and the others should have gone to Pac 10 and left TX behind.

 

Thus the Big 12 shall forever now be known as Big Texas Conference.

 

BTW, CA state finances and the money within a state have nothing to do with one another. Bet if you looked into it, most of CA financial issues are tied into mandatory spending from various propositions enacted by the citizens.

[Chronic Husker 85]

Texor won't go anywhere they can't have their own network, is how I see it. It would probably make the most sense for them to simply create a new Big 12/SWC.

[GettnHuge 1]

Big 12 problem is Texas for the loss of team from Big 12. Not invitations from either Pac 10 or Big 10.

 

Texas claims most of the money and power in the Big 12.

Cannot blame Nebraska for wanting to have more control of their destiny and a fair shake of revenues with the Big 10.

OK, OK St and the others should have gone to Pac 10 and left TX behind.

 

Thus the Big 12 shall forever now be known as Big Texas Conference.

 

They should run and let the texor league fall apart. all ships were supposed to rise, instead only texor's rose through bribery.

Ok and Ok st could double their tv money and then some in the Big10. I wouldn't mind seeing the Big10-west: Nebraska, Ok,

Ok state, Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern East-Ohio St, Mich, Penn st, Mich st, Illinois, purdue, Indiana.

[JerkStore 13]

So now the Big 10 has 12 teams and the Big 12 has 10 teams?

[cbfalcon 824]

They should run and let the texor league fall apart. all ships were supposed to rise, instead only texor's rose through bribery.

Ok and Ok st could double their tv money and then some in the Big10. I wouldn't mind seeing the Big10-west: Nebraska, Ok,

Ok state, Wisconsin, Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern East-Ohio St, Mich, Penn st, Mich st, Illinois, purdue, Indiana.

 

I'm not sure if the new Big 12 is the best deal...BUT.

 

Texas, OU, and A&M are all poised to rise above the rest. They are each supposed to get $20m-$25m, up from roughly $10m apiece before.......The rest are supposed to make $17m-ish, up from $8m-ish apiece.

 

There are no losers as everyone's money is at least doubling. The adults just get more than the little kids.