DanXIII 8 Posted November 5, 2010 The American Conservative The presumptive new Republican chairman of the House Armed Services committee, Rep. Buck McKeon (R-CA), has announced that he will push for an increase in defense spending. In a rambling reply to a Reuters correspondent, McKeon explains how he’s going to defend America from the future: "We’re spending less than at times in the past and we’re involved in two wars, as a percentage of our gross product. So I think, myself, I think you have to be very careful of the taxpayer dollar and I think the things the Secretary (of Defense) is pushing for with increased savings through efficiency. I support that. But I also support a higher top line because we have underlying costs that are taking such a high percentage of our budget that we’re not going to have enough to do the R&D and do the weaponry spending to provide the wherewithal to have the defense that we need. So, you know, they cut back in missile defense. They cut back in the F-22. They cut back in the next generation bomber. All these things for the future, and we can’t wait for the future to come. We need to be prepared for it. So, I think we need more money in defense and I think we need to do a better job spending that money." Elsewhere in the interview, McKeon continues to argue for a second engine for the $382 billion F-35 joint strike fighter program, a redundancy that Secretary Gates has repeatedly insisted is not necessary (he apparently didn’t see the slick website lobbyists have created to convince us). But not to worry, a corporate welfare program for General Electric’s defense division “hasn’t been a partisan position,” according to McKeon. His colleagues on both sides of the committee’s dais agree on adding unnecessary lines to the defense budget, while justifying the service to defense lobbyists as ensuring “competition.” As Gates pointed out early this year, “only in Washington is a proposal where everybody wins get considered a competition.” So much for McKeon’s goal of doing “a better job spending that money.” In this climate, it’s remarkable that some are still brave enough to suggest that we could scrap the F-35 program entirely, and rely on other existing fighter production lines to meet future needs. But if Buck McKeon won’t even accept cuts to pork attached to existing programs, there is little reason to hope that the future will include any significant cuts to DoD’s budget. The future is coming, and it looks like it will surely include the GOP’s favorite form of redistribution: bloated defense. :wall: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted November 5, 2010 Oh noes, the terrorists are winning again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted November 5, 2010 The other option would be to surrender to them terrorists. No way I say! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted November 5, 2010 You mean to tell me the chairman of the House Armed Services committee, wants more money for the Armed Services? That's crazy talk! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanXIII 8 Posted November 5, 2010 You mean "across the board spending cuts" actually means "increased spending where I think it should be?" These guys are no more likely to reduce spending and cut the deficit/national debt than their predecessors. They're two sides of the same corrupt coin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surferskin 30 Posted November 5, 2010 They've also increased the stock market and job creation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted November 5, 2010 Overreacting and lying by the lefty posters certainly didn't take long either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanXIII 8 Posted November 5, 2010 A conservative Web site reported it, Tummy. I merely shared it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PackYourNut 47 Posted November 5, 2010 They could just get rid of Obamas vacation and pay for it all! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,431 Posted November 5, 2010 Not to worry: Once we cut taxes the fed will be magically rolling in tax revenue to pay for all of the GOP's pork barrell military spending. Problem solved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted November 5, 2010 A conservative Web site reported it, Tummy. I merely shared it. Exactly what in the report states that Republicans are going to increase spending? You had to lie so you did. It's understandable, lefty media does it all the time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 597 Posted November 5, 2010 Not to worry: Once we cut taxes the fed will be magically rolling in tax revenue to pay for all of the GOP's pork barrell military spending. Problem solved. military spending is a necessary evil, I wouldn't put it in the same pork barrel as the BS spending that's been going on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,431 Posted November 5, 2010 Exactly what in the report states that Republicans are going to increase spending? First sentence? The presumptive new Republican chairman of the House Armed Services committee, Rep. Buck McKeon (R-CA), has announced that he will push for an increase in defense spending. I'm sort of liking this new GOP controlled house. Now instead of whining about deficits they can actually do stuff about it ... like increase spending while cutting taxes. Awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,431 Posted November 5, 2010 military spending is a necessary evil, I wouldn't put it in the same pork barrel as the BS spending that's been going on This is exactly why the GOP's "fiscal responsibility" line is a load of bull. They insist we need to balance the budget ... then say that the military, SSI and Medicare are off limits, AND we're going to cut taxes. I guess Palin is going to sh1t golden eggs to pay for it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GettnHuge 2 Posted November 5, 2010 military spending is a necessary evil, I wouldn't put it in the same pork barrel as the BS spending that's been going on explosion ready jobs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted November 5, 2010 First sentence?You either need a reading lesson or an understanding lesson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 597 Posted November 5, 2010 This is exactly why the GOP's "fiscal responsibility" line is a load of bull. They insist we need to balance the budget ... then say that the military, SSI and Medicare are off limits, AND we're going to cut taxes. I guess Palin is going to sh1t golden eggs to pay for it? Any politician talking about fiscal responsibility is a line of bull Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsbigmoni 1 Posted November 5, 2010 Its ridiculous how much we spend on defense. I wish politicians would have the balls to reduce defense spending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,431 Posted November 5, 2010 Any politician talking about fiscal responsibility is a line of bull Agreed. It's just hilarious to me that these FFT rubes think the party that gave them $6 trillion in debt and two wars is going to balance the budget. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,283 Posted November 5, 2010 The American Conservative :wall: Awesome, I think it's a joke that we only spend 50 cents for every dollar world wide on defense...and CHINA is spending 1/12 what we are spending, we need to increase spending to knock that down to 1/20! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PackYourNut 47 Posted November 5, 2010 Awesome, I think it's a joke that we only spend 50 cents for every dollar world wide on defense...and CHINA is spending 1/12 what we are spending, we need to increase spending to knock that down to 1/20! Oh God, don't confuse everyone with math! :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 597 Posted November 5, 2010 Its ridiculous how much we spend on defense. I wish politicians would have the balls to reduce defense spending. as long as we spend more on defense than any social program, it's a-ok in my book Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 920 Posted November 5, 2010 as long as we spend more on defense than any social program, it's a-ok in my book We can't worry about the health and well being of our fellow American's, when we have religious wacko's flying big planes into buildings. We need to show them how many bombs we can build, so they'll fly smaller planes into buildings. Hopefully enough poor Americans will die of curable illnesses to offset the population increase, caused as a result of only small planes flying into buildings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMMensaMind 462 Posted November 5, 2010 Awesome, I think it's a joke that we only spend 50 cents for every dollar world wide on defense...and CHINA is spending 1/12 what we are spending, we need to increase spending to knock that down to 1/20! Um...that's not exactly a fair comparison, or in consideration of the realities of this world. First, China relies on its numbers. Second, building a missile in China costs about $3.75. Third, it is widely known that we are the world's police, most of which is some combination of too cowardly, complicit in the troubles, or not logistically able to defend the cause of freedom in the world like we are. Fourth - and most importantly - we are aware that the rest of the world is a much larger threat to us than the reverse. I think that staying cutting edge on defensive/offensive weaponry is extremely expensive, but extremely important - particularly in this day and age. Without a very good threat assessment, the opinions about what we need militarily from posters in this thread sound like the equivalent of a '60's flower child just commanding us to "love one another", as though that has any place in the arena of global conflict. No, ignoring threats will not them disappear. You have history to teach you that; ask Neville Chamberlain. Our Military, and providing for our Defense, is a Constitutionally enumerated power, and Government's most important responsibility. Our military budget is not what makes us fiscally precarious: all the other crap is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
itsbigmoni 1 Posted November 5, 2010 Awesome, I think it's a joke that we only spend 50 cents for every dollar world wide on defense...and CHINA is spending 1/12 what we are spending, we need to increase spending to knock that down to 1/20! We can't let the rest of the world combined spend as much as we do. We need to spend more more more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greedo 13 Posted November 5, 2010 The other option would be to surrender to them terrorists. No way I say! Where's the moral indignation at increased spending recommendations? Overreacting and lying by the lefty posters certainly didn't take long either. How'd you do on the reading comprehension section of the SATs? military spending is a necessary evil, I wouldn't put it in the same pork barrel as the BS spending that's been going on Everyone's got their own opinion of what's pork. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted November 7, 2010 military spending is a necessary evil, I wouldn't put it in the same pork barrel as the BS spending that's been going on No it's not it is unnecessary and there's tons and tons of pork deep fried in lard to be found in military contracting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted November 7, 2010 I don't pretend to give a fock about welfare recipients or the morons who paid more for their houses than they can afford because I don't. Still, if we're going looking for places to save money, I'd rather pretend to have a shred of compassion for them than bribe warlords so that way overpaid contractors can build halfass hospitals and schools in Afghanistan that are unservicable and the locals don't want. Of course, that's just me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,368 Posted November 7, 2010 Here is what our federal governments priorities on spending should be: 1. Military/Defense $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 2. Education $$$ 3. Landscaping in Washington D.C. around the White House, etc. $ The end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted November 7, 2010 Here is what our federal governments priorities on spending should be: 1. Military/Defense $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 2. Education $$$ 3. Landscaping in Washington D.C. around the White House, etc. $ The end. And what do we do with all that taxpayer money flushed down the military toilet? Invade Iraq again? Be ready in case Djibouti decides to invade us? More acting as police to an ungrateful world? There has to be a point doesn't there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 597 Posted November 7, 2010 And what do we do with all that taxpayer money flushed down the military toilet? Invade Iraq again? Be ready in case Djibouti decides to invade us? More acting as police to an ungrateful world? There has to be a point doesn't there? we already have the largest base in the world in dijibouti. Our next hot spot will be Iran and azerbijian.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,368 Posted November 7, 2010 And what do we do with all that taxpayer money flushed down the military toilet? Invade Iraq again? Be ready in case Djibouti decides to invade us? More acting as police to an ungrateful world? There has to be a point doesn't there? You have a point. But, I enjoy my freedom very much and don't want to take any chances. Money shmoney. Plus, we're making all kinds of kick azz hypersonic spacecraft at Area 51. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites