Green Bay Packers @ Chicago Bears

[Sho Nuff 720]

HAHAHA!!!! Going off on how well the Pack did against the Birds running game are ye??

 

Well, for about the last 8 games of the season, the Bird Running game has been terrible. In fact, it went from one of the most efficient in the league, to dead last over the last eight games of the season per DVOA at Football Outsiders:

 

http://footballoutsiders.com/game-previews/2011/2010-nfc-divisional-round-preview

 

I believe I mentioned the Jets as well.

[illini9825 7]

I can't wait for this game, it's going to be fun! Not enough people give the Bears any shot or credit and that's okay. Say what you want, the Bears took the Packers best shot the last game of the year and only gave up 10 points. That was after Rodgers lit up the Giants.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I can't wait for this game, it's going to be fun! Not enough people give the Bears any shot or credit and that's okay. Say what you want, the Bears took the Packers best shot the last game of the year and only gave up 10 points. That was after Rodgers lit up the Giants.

 

And 4 times a Capers D has faced Cutler with Chicago and have taken their best shot and never has the defense allowed more than 15 points against Cutler's offense.

[donhaas 18]

Say what you want, the Bears took the Packers best shot the last game of the year and only gave up 10 points. That was after Rodgers lit up the Giants.

 

 

The Packers were running a diet cherry vanilla offense that game....

 

This game will be different!

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

I've lost count of how many breaks the Bears have gotten this season. That's done now.

 

And I don't think Chicago's pathetic excuse for a field helps them in this one. In fact, it could hurt them.

[Bishop82 61]

Bears 27

Packers 17

[Jarvis Basnight 119]

Bears 27

Packers 17

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lk-wWUQKBg&feature=related

[swamp dog 0]

The Packers were running a diet cherry vanilla offense that game....

 

This game will be different!

 

first off, we have several pages here of folks trying read something into the stats of this past season and the performances of these two teams this past season (both against other opponents and against each other). none of that matters for this game. none. I mean, hell, just look at the two drastically different games the falcons and packers played this year. what happened earlier isn't going to matter this sunday. so any fan--packer or bear--can't realistically find an advantage in what did and didn't happen in earlier encounters this season.

 

that said, in reference to your point here, i doubt the packers were in any way holding back in that last game. they had to win or go home. if indeed they did hold back and "didn't show all their cards" in a win-or-else game, the entire coaching staff should be fired.

 

just saying.

[Sho Nuff 720]

first off, we have several pages here of folks trying read something into the stats of this past season and the performances of these two teams this past season (both against other opponents and against each other). none of that matters for this game. none.

 

that said, in reference to your point here, i doubt the packers were in any way holding back in that last game. they had to win or go home. if indeed they did hold back and "didn't show all their cards" in a win-or-else game, the entire coaching staff should be fired.

 

just saying.

 

He is joking because of comments made by Bears fans (mostly on another board) that the Bears offense was just vanilla and they were trying things out in week 17 (all while playing their starters all game and watching their QB get hit over and over again.

[swamp dog 0]

He is joking because of comments made by Bears fans (mostly on another board) that the Bears offense was just vanilla and they were trying things out in week 17 (all while playing their starters all game and watching their QB get hit over and over again.

 

well, okay, i'll buy that...sometimes it's hard to figure that out when it comes to don, though

[Dawgoneit2 6]

He is joking because of comments made by Bears fans (mostly on another board) that the Bears offense was just vanilla and they were trying things out in week 17 (all while playing their starters all game and watching their QB get hit over and over again.

 

 

Forte was ripping off a 6yds/carry average (90 yds on 15 carries), and was yanked out repeatedly from the game. I guarantee you Forte gets more than 15 carry's if the Bears had to have that game...... especially when he's the most productive offensive player on the field. Packer fans can live in the state of denial (aka Wisconsin), but it's was pretty obvious it was vanilla to anyone who had been watching the Bears offense all season.

[Phurfur 70]

I can't wait for this game, it's going to be fun! Not enough people give the Bears any shot or credit and that's okay. Say what you want, the Bears took the Packers best shot the last game of the year and only gave up 10 points. That was after Rodgers lit up the Giants.

 

Nice try but the line is 3 1/2 that means they have a very good shot. The media and message boards mean nothing, it is where people put their money that counts.

 

What you need to do is put 1K on the Bears and laugh all the way to the bank,

[Phurfur 70]

Forte was ripping off a 6yds/carry average (90 yds on 15 carries), and was yanked out repeatedly from the game. I guarantee you Forte gets more than 15 carry's if the Bears had to have that game...... especially when he's the most productive offensive player on the field. Packer fans can live in the state of denial (aka Wisconsin), but it's was pretty obvious it was vanilla to anyone who had been watching the Bears offense all season.

 

You must have a bunch of money on the Bears too. This should be a big payday for Bears fans.

[illini9825 7]

The Packers were running a diet cherry vanilla offense that game....

 

This game will be different!

 

It will be different. The Bears ran a ton of 7 step drops which is no longer a part of their offense. They went back to several things offensively that didn't work for them before the bye. It will be different!

 

 

Nice try but the line is 3 1/2 that means they have a very good shot. The media and message boards mean nothing, it is where people put their money that counts.

 

What you need to do is put 1K on the Bears and laugh all the way to the bank,

 

The home team is typically favored by 3 for an even game. If this game was in Green Bay, the spread would be 6.5 or even 7.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Forte was ripping off a 6yds/carry average (90 yds on 15 carries), and was yanked out repeatedly from the game. I guarantee you Forte gets more than 15 carry's if the Bears had to have that game...... especially when he's the most productive offensive player on the field. Packer fans can live in the state of denial (aka Wisconsin), but it's was pretty obvious it was vanilla to anyone who had been watching the Bears offense all season.

 

Forte ran more times in the 2nd half than he did in the first.

I agree he will get more carries.

But if they were not trying to win...why were the starters all out to the end? So, in the end, either the Bears were trying, or they have the dumbest coaching staff in the history of the NFL to continue sending Cutler out there to get hit over and over again like he was.

[Dawgoneit2 6]

Forte ran more times in the 2nd half than he did in the first.

I agree he will get more carries.

But if they were not trying to win...why were the starters all out to the end? So, in the end, either the Bears were trying, or they have the dumbest coaching staff in the history of the NFL to continue sending Cutler out there to get hit over and over again like he was.

 

 

Apparently the Bears coaching staff decided they could win without game-planning for the Packers, and yanking their most productive offensive player time and time again to try and get their #2 RB some PT and to try and jump start him. It didn't work.... but it came pretty damned close.

 

I think the Bears coaching staff have the Packers necks under the heels of their boots, truthfully. I saw on another board where, since the Bears game, the Packers have had to punt only 5 times. Yet, vs the Bears this season, they were forced to punt 10 time in 2 games. Seattle's first 8 possessions? Punt, punt, Punt, Punt, Punt, Punt, Punt Punt..... I see where Pack fans say the big motivation for the Packers will be the memory of losing the NFC title game a couple years ago, discounting that the Bears motivation to a whole lot of Vets still on the team is the Superbowl loss.

 

I think the Bears will just want this more.

 

Bears 27

Packers 24

[Phurfur 70]

It will be different. The Bears ran a ton of 7 step drops which is no longer a part of their offense. They went back to several things offensively that didn't work for them before the bye. It will be different!

 

 

 

 

The home team is typically favored by 3 for an even game. If this game was in Green Bay, the spread would be 6.5 or even 7.

 

 

So put a ton of money on the Bears. This is your play, the money is waiting for you usless you are just blowing smoke.

 

Put your money where your mouth is!

[donhaas 18]

Forte was ripping off a 6yds/carry average (90 yds on 15 carries), and was yanked out repeatedly from the game. I guarantee you Forte gets more than 15 carry's if the Bears had to have that game...... especially when he's the most productive offensive player on the field. Packer fans can live in the state of denial (aka Wisconsin), but it's was pretty obvious it was vanilla to anyone who had been watching the Bears offense all season.

 

Forte's nice runs were against the nickel defense....

 

And as Swamp Dog most famously said 3 points = 3 points = 3 points

So the Bears offense was not that successful....

 

 

So, you can go on believing that Lovie could have easily beat the team he so passionately hates by simply running the ball (although only netting 3 points! up to that point!) but didn't want to do that in order to practice passing and get his "star" quarterback knocked around silly on every play and possibly injured for the rest of the playoffs.... but, as shonuff, said.... you would be admitting that Lovie is the stupidest coach in the history of any sport...

 

 

As a Bears fan you can choose to believe that the Bears "weren't really trying" or "playing vanilla*" but then you must admit that your coaching staff is the dumbest coaching staff in the history of any type of sports -- amateur or professional.

 

 

Are there any smart, non-homer Bears fans here?

 

I think there's a reason that Illinois has some of the lowest school test scores in the country....

 

 

 

*By doing all kinds of wild passing plays!!! HAHAHAHAHAH

[Cruzer 1,995]

Black and Blue Division smack talk - lov'n it. :popcorn:

 

[Sho Nuff 720]

Apparently the Bears coaching staff decided they could win without game-planning for the Packers, and yanking their most productive offensive player time and time again to try and get their #2 RB some PT and to try and jump start him. It didn't work.... but it came pretty damned close.

 

I think the Bears coaching staff have the Packers necks under the heels of their boots, truthfully. I saw on another board where, since the Bears game, the Packers have had to punt only 5 times. Yet, vs the Bears this season, they were forced to punt 10 time in 2 games. Seattle's first 8 possessions? Punt, punt, Punt, Punt, Punt, Punt, Punt Punt..... I see where Pack fans say the big motivation for the Packers will be the memory of losing the NFC title game a couple years ago, discounting that the Bears motivation to a whole lot of Vets still on the team is the Superbowl loss.

 

I think the Bears will just want this more.

 

Bears 27

Packers 24

The Bears have their necks under their boots?

The Bears offense has not scored more than 15 points against this Packer D since Capers has been there.

You can keep talking about what the Bears D has done to the Packer offense, but some of you all keep forgetting what the Packers D has been able to do to the Bears offense.

 

The Packers are 3-1 vs. the Bears the last 2 seasons (those with Cutler at QB and this Capers led defense).

I don't think either team has anyone's necks under any boots.

[FeelingMN 273]

It's too bad one of these teams has to lose. Both very much deserve....to lose.

 

 

 

Should be a great game. Intense. Well played....hopefully. John Facenda should be the voice of this game.

[varga20 0]

Lets look at strenghts and weaknesses before we start spouting off stupid stats and what each team has scored against each other!

 

Defense rankings

Packers- 18th against the run, 5th against the pass

Bears- 2nd against the run, 20th against the pass

 

Offensive rankings

Pack- 5th in pass, 24th in run

Bears- 28th in pass, 22nd in run

 

I think Bears run game might be a bit deceiving as they atarted running the ball more in the 2nd half of the year, but the bottom line is the Packers weakness defensively is against the run, Bears strength offensively is the run. Bears weakness Defensively is the pass and Packers strength is the pass. I could give you special team rankings too, but we all know the Bears are near the top there and Pack is near the bottom. One more thing to add now though is the Pack have found a run game, so Bears can't stock up against the pass no more!

 

BTW Falcons had the 22nd ranked pass D so say what you want about how much better the Bears D is than the Falcons, but that stats don't lie.

[Puddleglum 0]

Forte was ripping off a 6yds/carry average (90 yds on 15 carries), and was yanked out repeatedly from the game. I guarantee you Forte gets more than 15 carry's if the Bears had to have that game...... especially when he's the most productive offensive player on the field. Packer fans can live in the state of denial (aka Wisconsin), but it's was pretty obvious it was vanilla to anyone who had been watching the Bears offense all season.

 

You do realize half of Forte's yards came on back-to-back runs of 25 and 21 yards, right? I'm not saying those don't count - they do. But you have to look at the bigger picture and realize that Forte was not a magic drive extending machine that the Bears intentionally held out of the game. Besides those two admittedly nice runs, here's what he was doing on first downs:

 

0,0,4,0,1,4

 

Also, Dom was running a vanilla defense against the Bears. He knew they could win with it since the Bears would be playing vanilla on offense. So he saved all his tricks for when they meet in the playoffs.

 

The biggest concern for the Bears should be Martz's Lake Michigan-sized ego. His confidence is no doubt bolstered after such a strong showing against literally one of the worst defenses in the league, and he is almost certainly having dreams about the glory days in St. Louis right now.

[The Hood 9]

Forte's nice runs were against the nickel defense....

 

And as Swamp Dog most famously said 3 points = 3 points = 3 points

So the Bears offense was not that successful....

 

 

So, you can go on believing that Lovie could have easily beat the team he so passionately hates by simply running the ball (although only netting 3 points! up to that point!) but didn't want to do that in order to practice passing and get his "star" quarterback knocked around silly on every play and possibly injured for the rest of the playoffs.... but, as shonuff, said.... you would be admitting that Lovie is the stupidest coach in the history of any sport...

 

 

As a Bears fan you can choose to believe that the Bears "weren't really trying" or "playing vanilla*" but then you must admit that your coaching staff is the dumbest coaching staff in the history of any type of sports -- amateur or professional.

 

 

Are there any smart, non-homer Bears fans here?

 

I think there's a reason that Illinois has some of the lowest school test scores in the country....

 

 

 

*By doing all kinds of wild passing plays!!! HAHAHAHAHAH

 

Obviously the Bears "tried" to win week 17. The starters were playing. It wasn't stupid at all with the bye week already giving them time off. We've seen laying down the last week or 2 of a season make the Colts choke enough times to realize the you shouldn't teach your team to lay down.

 

 

The only wonder that comes from week 17 was that Green Bay should have been desperate to win and have stated they were already in playoff mode since the week before. As they needed to be. While the Bears were only playing to try to keep in rhythm and the chance to knock out their rival.

 

 

One would think the Packers should have been playing with a lot more incentive to win the game. We've all heard enough talk and quotes about playoff level and intensity so players atleast think it exists. Even you Cheesedicks can admit this right? And they did. But 10-3 was no domination.

 

 

 

 

So our hope as Bears fans is that in this game the intensity level is now equal and with us playing at home this time.................. the game stands a good chance at going the other way and Chicago once again returning to the Superbowl.

[Walter34 3]

I'm looking forward to this one.

[donhaas 18]

here's what he was doing on first downs:

 

0,0,4,0,1,4

 

 

Unstoppable!!! The Packers could not stop Forte!

Just tearing that sh!t up.... How do you get away from something like this? Just keep riding that 'til the end of the game, right?.... Can't get much more vanilla than that!

 

Why would you ever pass -- even if it's 7-step-drop "diet cherry vanilla" passing -- if you are just tearing through the Packers defense like that and accumulating all of 3 freaking points????

 

 

You Bears fans are beyond hilarious....

 

 

You are making me thirsty for a vanilla shake

[bjsteel 34]

"or they have the dumbest coaching staff in the history of the NFL to continue sending Cutler out there to get hit over and over again like he was."

 

This sounds about right, which I've said numerous times on this board.

 

In fact, there are many Bears fans that didn't even want to see the Bears make the playoffs for fear Lovie Dovie would return next year (me being one of them). However, now that we are this close, I suppose I can accept Lovie back with open arms...IF HE BEATS THE PACK!!!

[donhaas 18]

Obviously the Bears "tried" to win week 17. The starters were playing. It wasn't stupid at all with the bye week already giving them time off. We've seen laying down the last week or 2 of a season make the Colts choke enough times to realize the you shouldn't teach your team to lay down.

 

 

The only wonder that comes from week 17 was that Green Bay should have been desperate to win and have stated they were already in playoff mode since the week before. As they needed to be. While the Bears were only playing to try to keep in rhythm and the chance to knock out their rival.

 

 

One would think the Packers should have been playing with a lot more incentive to win the game. We've all heard enough talk and quotes about playoff level and intensity so players atleast think it exists. Even you Cheesedicks can admit this right? And they did. But 10-3 was no domination.

 

 

 

 

So our hope as Bears fans is that in this game the intensity level is now equal and with us playing at home this time.................. the game stands a good chance at going the other way and Chicago once again returning to the Superbowl.

 

 

Ok... .now we're making progress.... So the Bears were kinda trying but didn't have incentive (besides professional pride, millions of dollars in bonuses, a hated rival, a national TV audience, and a desire to not get hurt... which can happen if you are playing uninspired, incentive-less ball)

 

Would you say they had more or less incentive than when they got trounced 46-6 by New England? I'm trying to gauge incentive... Or were they running some vanilla offense and defense against the Patsies?

 

 

They looked much more incentive-less against the Pats (a team that the Packers statistically dominated on the road with a QB that had never started an NFL game before) than they did against the Packers .... which is weird...

 

 

Anyways.... I'm tired of trying to figure this all out....It's just tooooo complicated. Who has incentive? Who doesn't? Who's just practicing stuff and who's really playing their hearts out?

 

I hope the Bears decide that they've practiced enough in their regular season "practice" games and are ready to "go chocolate" versus the Pack in the NFC Championship Game and that we have a great game....

 

I guarantee you the Packers are scoring more than 10 points...

[Walter34 3]

That's awesome that you cheeseheads are so confident heading into this game. I'm a little worried that the disappointment will be a bit over whelming for you, but at least you will enjoy the pre game time period and feel good about yourselves for another few days.

 

 

[donhaas 18]

That's awesome that you cheeseheads are so confident heading into this game. I'm a little worried that the disappointment will be a bit over whelming for you, but at least you will enjoy the pre game time period and feel good about yourselves for another few days.

 

 

 

We're confident? Your guys didn't even try, had no incentive, and spent the second half just practicing stuff you never wanted to use just for the fun of it and you still only lost by seven points!!!

 

You could have continued to run Forte down our throats at a pace of 0,0,4,0,1,0,4,0..... but you had mercy on us and decided to try and get Cutler concussed instead.. [Thank you! ]

 

If anything, I think the Bears are overconfident.... All signs point to if they only try a little, they will dominate!

[Puddleglum 0]

So put a ton of money on the Bears. This is your play, the money is waiting for you usless you are just blowing smoke.

 

Put your money where your mouth is!

So that reminds me, with the Packers favored, any cheeseheads thinking of doing the happy-hedge thing and laying money on the Bears to cover?

[Phurfur 70]

So that reminds me, with the Packers favored, any cheeseheads thinking of doing the happy-hedge thing and laying money on the Bears to cover?

 

I think 3 1/2 is a very good line for Vegas. I will not bet this game but I very rarely bet on division rivals.

[bjsteel 34]

I think 3 1/2 is a very good line for Vegas. I will not bet this game but I very rarely bet on division rivals.

 

Wow, 3 1/2 is a lot of points in this game, I'd bet the house (not my house) and take the points!

[The Hood 9]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lk-wWUQKBg&feature=related

 

 

I guarantee you the Packers are scoring more than 10 points...

 

 

Jarvis you posted this video in the wrong place ............it belongs here with don's guarantee

 

 

 

This is who you've chosen to emulate donny? Good luck with that...............this "system" has proven to be very broken.

[DrJ 0]

We're confident? Your guys didn't even try, had no incentive, and spent the second half just practicing stuff you never wanted to use just for the fun of it and you still only lost by seven points!!!

 

You could have continued to run Forte down our throats at a pace of 0,0,4,0,1,0,4,0..... but you had mercy on us and decided to try and get Cutler concussed instead.. [Thank you! ]

 

If anything, I think the Bears are overconfident.... All signs point to if they only try a little, they will dominate!

 

Nah, the Bears realize that they're a team that is a couple lucky breaks removed from having the 1st pick in the draft while the Packers are only 45 penalties, 17 injuries, 14 turnovers, and 22 dropped passes removed from being on the verge of being the only 19-0 team in history. They have a subscription to The Whiney Packer Fan Gazette that they use as toilet paper over at Halas Hall.

[donhaas 18]

Nah, the Bears realize that they're a team that is a couple lucky breaks removed from having the 1st pick in the draft while the Packers are only 45 penalties, 17 injuries, 14 turnovers, and 22 dropped passes removed from being on the verge of being the only 19-0 team in history. They have a subscription to The Whiney Packer Fan Gazette that they use as toilet paper over at Halas Hall.

 

In truth, as the wise Swamp Dog has pointed out, the Bears are one Calvin Johnson "non-catch" (if you can call a non-catch taking four steps, eating a hot dog and setting down the ball down after blowing through the Bears sad secondary) away from not making the playoffs all together...

 

Like the song says.... The Bears have a reputation that's mostly based on luck

[Puddleglum 0]

Nah, the Bears realize that they're a team that is a couple lucky breaks removed from having the 1st pick in the draft while the Packers are only 45 penalties, 17 injuries, 14 turnovers, and 22 dropped passes removed from being on the verge of being the only 19-0 team in history. They have a subscription to The Whiney Packer Fan Gazette that they use as toilet paper over at Halas Hall.

That's great, re-using old material for the highest-stakes game in the history of the rivalry. We can't get some new trash talk for the special occasion?

 

The Bears are 1 pouty face away from having the most annoying QB in the league, and 0 sacks away from having the most abused one.

[Dawgoneit2 6]

Unstoppable!!! The Packers could not stop Forte!

Just tearing that sh!t up.... How do you get away from something like this? Just keep riding that 'til the end of the game, right?.... Can't get much more vanilla than that!

 

Why would you ever pass -- even if it's 7-step-drop "diet cherry vanilla" passing -- if you are just tearing through the Packers defense like that and accumulating all of 3 freaking points????

 

 

You Bears fans are beyond hilarious....

 

 

You are making me thirsty for a vanilla shake

 

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/3361509-419/game-bears-packers-team-bay.html

[Puddleglum 0]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/3361509-419/game-bears-packers-team-bay.html

I hope on every star in the sky that you and the Chicago media are right, and that Martz is cooking up a bananna split with fudge, sprinkles and a cherry on top offense for Sunday's game. If Martz is scheming to win this game on his own with flashy plays and trick formations, it is going to be a beautiful afternoon.

 

On the other side of the ball, the vanilla defense held Rodgers & co. to 10 points, why risk changing it? I bet McCarthy knows Smith will expect him to run a Mint Chocolate Chip offense (way better than vanilla), but instead MM will out-wit Smith by going with the Moose Tracks offense, which will stomp the Rocky Road defense Smith had intended to deploy against the Mint Chocolate Chip offense.

[donhaas 18]

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/3361509-419/game-bears-packers-team-bay.html

 

What if you don't play the Packers again?.... which was a HUGE possibility....

 

You risked injury to all of your key players (especially Cutler getting hit play after play after play) to get an edge in the game that was not probable to happen....

 

Further... with just the slightest bit of chocolate..... you could have got rid of the Pack altogether

 

 

You'd be playing extremely crapass Atlanta this weekend (a very weak team who just got destroyed by the slightly-less-crapass Packers... a team the Bears almost beat playing vanilla and not really trying....)

 

What is good about that? Seems like the plan backfired!

 

 

Does this make any sense to anybody but Bears fans??