rapala 0 Posted September 21, 2011 How will he be used in a blowout game, does he get the ball more or less? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PackYourNut 47 Posted September 21, 2011 How will he be used in a blowout game, does he get the ball more or less? I'd say the same amount... He will split, get 3rd and GL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted September 21, 2011 Are you talking this weekend? He seemed dinged up on Sunday, so my guess would be that they would try to rest him if the game was a blowout. In general, it seems like both Mathews and Tolbert have some fumbling issues, so it is not like either is better from a "sure hands" standpoint. I would also expect that they would not be passing as much if they are way up, so in that case, I would expect Mathews would get more work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted September 21, 2011 I know it's in SD but I wouldn't assume it's going to be a blowout. It's a divisional battle so anything can happen, and SD seems to not show up when they should sometimes. I'm thinking Tolbert gets his usual work but this game could be a R Mathews coming out party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted September 21, 2011 Both guys rush for 70 yards but Tolbert scores twice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hannoshb901 0 Posted September 23, 2011 Don't start Tolbert, I dare you not to start him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WR Guru 31 Posted September 23, 2011 Never mind Tolbert's toe, Mathews just looked like a much better player last week. More importantly, Mathews began chipping away significantly at playing time in the red zone and passing situations, which was the entire lynchpin of Tolbert's value. With Mathews playing like a 1st round pick, the coach's increased trust in him, and Tolbert playing at something less than 100%, the stage is set for a decisive turn in this RBBC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted September 23, 2011 If he's healthy enough to play I can't imagine not starting him, unless you have superior options. He could easily score a couple TD's against KC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreen626 17 Posted September 23, 2011 Start Tolbert or J.Best in NON-PPR? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirensong 111 Posted September 23, 2011 If he's healthy enough to play I can't imagine not starting him, unless you have superior options. He could easily score a couple TD's against KC. yeah--given KC's defensive performance so far (stacked up against SD's passing offense), i suspect that this is going to be an enormous outing for the SD run game in the second half. i'm starting mathews and don't have tolbert, but if i had both, i would be inclined to start both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted September 23, 2011 Starting Tolbert. Thinking that w/ Gates maybe limited, he might pick up some of the slack in the passing game there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted September 24, 2011 Starting Tolbert happily. All sorts of opinions saying "mathews is outplaying tolbert.". Lol thats not what im seeing. Im not saying the reverse either because they are two completely different players. Tolberts 3 tds really sucked compared to mathews week 1 huh? And im sure ppr leagues just hated him catching a ton of balls last week. Sure mathews is looking good between the 20s wich is GOOD for Tolberts value. I want someone to keep the chains moving, and Matthews again, is a different style of runner. They even gave Tolbert a few GL carries last week so he couldv had a 1 yd td. Loving Tolbert, loving Mathews playing well as hes supposed to. Why not just admire both guys? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted September 24, 2011 Never mind Tolbert's toe, Mathews just looked like a much better player last week. More importantly, Mathews began chipping away significantly at playing time in the red zone and passing situations, which was the entire lynchpin of Tolbert's value. With Mathews playing like a 1st round pick, the coach's increased trust in him, and Tolbert playing at something less than 100%, the stage is set for a decisive turn in this RBBC. Strong use of the word lynchpin here.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted September 24, 2011 Been debating Tate, Tolbert and Blount. Pretty sure Tate is getting his first start of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jocstrap 8 Posted September 24, 2011 yes in 2 leagues benching Jamaal Charles - benching Mark Ingram - ok, so this choice is a little harder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sirensong 111 Posted September 24, 2011 Strong use of the word lynchpin here.... note that he said it was the entire lynchpin, not just a fraction of the pin. that's primo boldness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark32esu 18 Posted September 25, 2011 Been debating Tate, Tolbert and Blount. Pretty sure Tate is getting his first start of the season. I'm in the same exact boat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted September 25, 2011 Tate is a no brainer. Gotta start Tate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,892 Posted September 25, 2011 Been debating Tate, Tolbert and Blount. Pretty sure Tate is getting his first start of the season. I'm likely starting all 3. I'm considering Starks instead of Tolbert at my flex spot but it's mostly a wash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted September 25, 2011 I'm likely starting all 3. I'm considering Starks instead of Tolbert at my flex spot but it's mostly a wash. Yeah ... can't decide between those 3 ... not a bad problem to have. Wish I had that problem. I'm starting Burleson in the flex as Megatron insurance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WR Guru 31 Posted September 25, 2011 There is no doubt that Tolbert will continue to have value as a pass catcher and TD vulture on a prolific offense. But we have seen Tolbert's ceiling. He is at it right now. Mathews, despite playing in nearly an equal timeshare through 2 weeks, is on pace for almost 2,000 total yards. If both players remain healthy, it is highly likely that Mathews' yardage totals will dwarf Tolbert's by year's end, with the only question being TD distribution between the two. If it's any less than a 2-to-1 split on TDs in favor of Tolbert (last year it was only 11 to 7 with Mathews missing part or all of 6 games), then Mathews is the player to own- maybe by far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted September 25, 2011 Tolbert = BJGE He's gonna have huge games, and he's gonna not be needed some games. They gave it to him on 4th and goal at the 1 yard line last week. Turns out Jarrod Mayo is a pretty good tackler, or nobody would be questioning Tolbert's value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
veebs4 2 Posted September 25, 2011 Tolbert's Week 1 explosion I think has inflated his perceived value...hell, I benefitted from it with Foster being out! But, going forward, and from those I have heard from watching both guys, Matthews is the more dynamic player, and the differentiation between Matthews & Tolbert is shrinking. These TD goal line backs are feast or famine. The other issue is KC's defense. If they are as bad as they have been, Matthews may be scoring from the 20 yard line and beyond. Staying away from Tolbert, going with Tate & Fred Jackson. My RBs are disappointing me in general! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyFourSeven 23 Posted September 25, 2011 I'm benching Tolbert as my flex today and going with Daniel Thomas. I'm in a yardage heavy league and see many more yards this week for Thomas than Tolbert. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chroniciguana 13 Posted September 25, 2011 It's obviously a tasty matchup for the Chargers, and I was tempted to give him the start - even if it came down to him feasting on the scraps. But with two other decent RBs without a "P" under their status and reasonably good matchups, the injury was the tie-breaker. Makes sense, until Tolbert posts six TDs and the family begins hiding all the sharp objects. Again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreen626 17 Posted September 25, 2011 I'm debating Tolbert vs Best (NON-PPR). Any thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hood 9 Posted September 25, 2011 With Hillis out I'm rolling with Tolbert over Williams(TB) at flex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rapala 0 Posted September 25, 2011 I should've started L. Moore instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p00h 85 Posted September 25, 2011 tolbert is done. Matthews getting not just goal line carries, but also in on passing downs, catching passes, etcetcetc. UGH! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreen626 17 Posted September 25, 2011 Fat boy Tolber is done. Do i drop him or hold him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p00h 85 Posted September 25, 2011 Fat boy Tolber is done. Do i drop him or hold him? Imma hold on as I have atleast 1 player head of him that needs to get dropped. If Matthews gets hurt Tolbert is one of the better backups to have in the league... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted September 25, 2011 Relax kids, the sky isn't falling. Lets wait and see what how Matthews handles his his new found responsibilities. It's one half of football. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lay the Mallett Down 0 Posted September 25, 2011 Talent shines through. Sorry Tolbert owners. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted September 25, 2011 I think Tolbert just turned into John Kuhn or Jason Snelling with a few more catches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p00h 85 Posted September 25, 2011 Relax kids, the sky isn't falling. Lets wait and see what how Matthews handles his his new found responsibilities. It's one half of football. LMAO! Outside an injury, tolbert has completely lost his value. Matthews was used in all the situations that were meant to be tolbert. Goalline, passing downs, blahblahblah. And Matthews produced high level. It's over for tolbert... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joey Gladstone 33 Posted September 25, 2011 LMAO! Outside an injury, tolbert has completely lost his value. Matthews was used in all the situations that were meant to be tolbert. Goalline, passing downs, blahblahblah. And Matthews produced high level. It's over for tolbert... You're right there are only 13 weeks left in the season and Matthews has shown he has durability issues. I'm dropping Tolbert. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bearnut 0 Posted September 25, 2011 Glad I just traded Tolbert for Dez this week! Mathews FTW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
p00h 85 Posted September 25, 2011 You're right there are only 13 weeks left in the season and Matthews has shown he has durability issues. I'm dropping Tolbert. Joey, if you want to twist words to relieve some of the anxiety you're experiencing over Tolbert's current worthlessness, go for it. Rest assured I won't be losing any sleep over it. I stated both that 'outside an injury' and 'I'm still holding onto him.' Neither of those things change the fact that as it stands right now, Tolbert is worthless. So you can cite the 13 weeks left, cite matthews' durability, whatever else you want. Won't change the situation. let the anxiety go man, it's just FF... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
