pee-diddy 27 Posted October 21, 2011 Start him w/ confidence this week? Beck as the starter (handoff, handoff, handoff, pass, handoff...) CAR's DEF suxor WASH should be in the game throughout or ahead Torain didn't really get a fair shake last week cuz they fell behind early Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philo312 41 Posted October 21, 2011 ..how can one have any confidance w/ a Redskins RB. Hightower and Helu will both suit up Sunday too. I'd advise to "proceed w/ caution" w/ Shannahan's RB's. You predict Beck w/ be handing off a lot, so what makes you think Helu won't get the rock often? I'm not sayin, ..I'm just sayin' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Football Guru 212 Posted October 21, 2011 Start him w/ confidence this week? Beck as the starter (handoff, handoff, handoff, pass, handoff...) CAR's DEF suxor WASH should be in the game throughout or ahead Torain didn't really get a fair shake last week cuz they fell behind early Since I face him in each of my two biggest money leagues, I'd say there's a good chance he goes off. The bigger problem here is that Torain is missing 60% of his line and offers little in the passing game. LT Trent Williams is out 2-3 weeks, C Will Montgomery is moving over to LG to replace Kory Lichtensteiger and the new C is making his first career start. Furthermore, it would not surprise me in the least if Hightower gets the start and is heavily used in the passing game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted October 21, 2011 Since I face him in each of my two biggest money leagues, I'd say there's a good chance he goes off. The bigger problem here is that Torain is missing 60% of his line and offers little in the passing game. LT Trent Williams is out 2-3 weeks, C Will Montgomery is moving over to LG to replace Kory Lichtensteiger and the new C is making his first career start. Furthermore, it would not surprise me in the least if Hightower gets the start and is heavily used in the passing game. Excellent points all around. The line concerns me. They were rolling before the injuries. Really impressive. And they fell to pieces last week with injury, and then it was a disaster. Question marks riddle this offense at every position now. As a Skins fan, its going to go downhill fast I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Challenger 72 Posted October 21, 2011 Hightower is back, that's what worry me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SameSongNDance 0 Posted October 21, 2011 He'll finish in the top 10 this week. CAR is a fantasy gold mine, even for a RBBC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Houston Texans 10 Posted October 21, 2011 He'll finish in the top 10 this week. CAR is a fantasy gold mine, even for a RBBC. So was Philadelphia, but that didn't work out so well last week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pee-diddy 27 Posted October 21, 2011 Does anyone think ShannyRat will give Torain 20+ touches this week? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SameSongNDance 0 Posted October 21, 2011 So was Philadelphia, but that didn't work out so well last week. Sure, the flow of the game wouldn't allow for any WAS RB to get anything going. It was a divisional game, a must win for PHI. I saw this type of game coming..I don't see it coming against CAR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted October 21, 2011 Does anyone think ShannyRat will give Torain 20+ touches this week? Only God knows what's going to happen with the Shanny RBs this week. Last week Shanny said Hightower was the starter, and he didn't play a down. Nobody will know until the first offensive snap of the game for the Skins, as we wait to see which RB runs onto the field. Vegas should have prop bets on this with odds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nearbyatom 1 Posted October 21, 2011 Everyone seems to say "Start Torain!" I'm starting Torain even though I have Hightower. The week Hightower got injured, Torain came in and outplayed him. I hope Shannahanigans remembers that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plasma george 52 Posted October 21, 2011 Only God knows what's going to happen with the Shanny RBs this week. Stupid sentence, just plain stupid. I have Torrain, and gonna role with Murray and Lynch.....maybe Ingram, yeah my RBs suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanXIII 8 Posted October 21, 2011 I have no choice but to start him in my Second Money League since Bradshaw is off. I expect him to suq. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CedarGrovePack 2 Posted October 21, 2011 I have no choice but to start him in my Second Money League since Bradshaw is off. I expect him to suq. Torain should be a workhorse this week. start him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pee-diddy 27 Posted October 21, 2011 What makes you think this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted October 21, 2011 What makes you think this? Come on. He's a choo-choo train. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavlov 0 Posted October 21, 2011 What makes you think this? Predicting Shanahan RB decisions is a fool's errand. Gun to my head, I'm taking Hightower. Shanahan has no problem flip flopping RBs and Torian was a severe disappointment vs. a bad Eagles' run D last week. Disappointing Shanahan doesn't usually lead to playing time. Hightower's bad game vs Dallas opened the door for Torian. Torian returned that favor vs. the Eagles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 569 Posted October 21, 2011 Reports on CBS Sportsline that Hightower is getting the start, I can't take this anymore. I feel like I have a better chance flipping a coin between these guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bones40 0 Posted October 21, 2011 I'm trying to decide my last flex spot. It comes down to Torain, Julio if he plays (hamstring), Ingram, or Nate Washington. Right now, I have Torain in my lineup. No idea how it will shake down but I think Torain has the highest ceiling of those I named. Maybe not the safest bet though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krusin 0 Posted October 22, 2011 I think Shanny said that Hightower was starting in week 4, when Torrain went off for 19-135-1? My gut says that Torrain gets one more chance at the start because Shanny loves this guy... Then again, there is no certain answer here. I am debating Torrain vs Battle vs Tolbert for my flex. Hard call - I actually think that Tolbert is going to have a good day (PPR-Rec.TD) he is due, and Mathews is fragile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted October 22, 2011 Torain's time to shine was against the Eagles. He did not. Move along. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nearbyatom 1 Posted October 22, 2011 Come on!! 4 ints by gross an doesn't help the train and his chances. Plus they fell behind early. Prolly started throwing more. Or maybe it's just wishful thinking by me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbone138 6 Posted October 22, 2011 I've owned Torain every year since he's been in the league. He always produces when healthy. Last week he was a victim of circumstance. Linemen out, falling behind, cant move the chains and despite that, he gained 26 yards AFTER contact.... for a grand total of 22 yards. You do the math, he was getting hit in the damn backfield. Timmy hightower would have ended up w/ negative yardage. The boy can run with the elite runners in the league, he just can't stay healthy. I believe his offensive line situation is still horrible but going up against the panthers he should be good for about 220 yards and 2 td's maybe 3. He's a stud when healthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bubba29 3 Posted October 22, 2011 I've owned Torain every year since he's been in the league. He always produces when healthy. Last week he was a victim of circumstance. Linemen out, falling behind, cant move the chains and despite that, he gained 26 yards AFTER contact.... for a grand total of 22 yards. You do the math, he was getting hit in the damn backfield. Timmy hightower would have ended up w/ negative yardage. The boy can run with the elite runners in the league, he just can't stay healthy. I believe his offensive line situation is still horrible but going up against the panthers he should be good for about 220 yards and 2 td's maybe 3. He's a stud when healthy. well, i own ray rice, matt forte, and torrain. i start 1 RB. based on your assessment, i am gonna start torrain this week. i cannot pass up 220 and 2 touches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gridironwhirlwinds 0 Posted October 22, 2011 At my flex I am debating Torrain & Daniel Thomas....I am rolling with Thomas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Durka Durka? 2 Posted October 22, 2011 He's in my starting lineup right now but I am really having second thoughts. Might plug Battle in for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antiramie 50 Posted October 22, 2011 Been debating between Torain and Beanie for a few days now. Beanie against Pitt D really scares me, but he seems to be the more reliable option. Torain has the highest ceiling, but he could also be a huge bust. Fock! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoDuckssss 0 Posted October 22, 2011 Battle or Torain...that is the question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted October 22, 2011 Been debating between Torain and Beanie for a few days now. Beanie against Pitt D really scares me, but he seems to be the more reliable option. Torain has the highest ceiling, but he could also be a huge bust. Fock! That is no debate. Beanie every single time. Pitt has not been that great against the run and Beanie has done quite well this year. I have Torrain and Murray in my lineup right now, considering taking one of them out to play Garcon at the flex. Then have no clue which one of those two I would even leave in the lineup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AIR it OUT 1 Posted October 22, 2011 So is it safe to drop Hightower for Torain then or for back and keep watching it shake out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted October 22, 2011 Torain is awful in pass protection and doesn't catch the ball well. Not what you're looking for in a RB with a new QB on the field. RBBC at best. Hightower dominates the touches and Helu gets the third down opportunities at worst. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lguero1 4 Posted October 23, 2011 i'm starting helu over torain and hightower. shanny will never know what hit him as he has screwed me over for years where ever he has coached. i just do the craziest thing that no one expects and bam, you have shanny's strategy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bones40 0 Posted October 23, 2011 Battle or Torain...that is the question. I'm doing both this week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dsausage 36 Posted October 23, 2011 Torain's time to shine was against the Eagles. He did not. Move along. Wrong. I will bump this after he puts up 130 and a tuddy on 14 touches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WR Guru 31 Posted October 23, 2011 If you don't start Torain now, then you might as well cut him. I figure you have about 2 more weeks before his knee explodes or his hamstring shreds or something. He has never played 5 straight games in the NFL without getting a serious injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DC 9 Posted October 23, 2011 At my flex I am debating Torrain & Daniel Thomas....I am rolling with Thomas. E. Graham v Torain for me. Because Shanny is such a major fantasy duuche, I am going with Graham. (Which means Torain will really get 220 + 2 scores) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,315 Posted October 23, 2011 Wrong. I will bump this after he puts up 130 and a tuddy on 14 touches. What's a "tuddy"? Is that what happens when your HC benches you for no explicable reason? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Low Score 0 Posted October 23, 2011 It will very much depend upon the game situation and that is how Shanny will approach it (and smartly always does). Remember, Torain is not so great in pass protection and Hightower gives the 'Skins a much more rounded back that excels in pass pro. With the left side of the line decimated, this is a big deal and we'll see plenty of Hightower in there. With that said, I agree with the earlier comment that Torain could run with the elite if he stayed healthy - he is an absolutely fantastic pure runner (had heard good things coming out of Denver about him but wasn't a believer till I saw it live). So, it will depend upon how the left side of that line is doing and if the game warrants a lot of passing by the 'Skins. As someone SMARTLY said, only God knows who Shanny will use at RB. IMHO - I think it is a roughly equal mix today b/c I don't see the 'Skins pulling away and trying to protect a lead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plasma george 52 Posted October 23, 2011 It will very much depend upon the game situation and that is how Shanny will approach it (and smartly always does). Remember, Torain is not so great in pass protection and Hightower gives the 'Skins a much more rounded back that excels in pass pro. With the left side of the line decimated, this is a big deal and we'll see plenty of Hightower in there. With that said, I agree with the earlier comment that Torain could run with the elite if he stayed healthy - he is an absolutely fantastic pure runner (had heard good things coming out of Denver about him but wasn't a believer till I saw it live). So, it will depend upon how the left side of that line is doing and if the game warrants a lot of passing by the 'Skins. As someone SMARTLY said, only God knows who Shanny will use at RB.IMHO - I think it is a roughly equal mix today b/c I don't see the 'Skins pulling away and trying to protect a lead. I agree with everything you said, except "the only god knows".....I mean, why say that ? My grandmother (RIP)used to say that all the time, without actually giving it any thought. Wouldn't it be more logical to say only Shanihan knows, or the OCs, or the players if they had meeting about their strategy, or as the game progresses ? Lets give the Skins and thie Coaching staff the credit they deserve (or don't) for the gameplan that's being put in place.... TY I think I'm playing Lynch and Murray (possibly Ingram) over Torrain, Hightower will be a player today, and they may seriously struggle to score with Beck....there's a reason Grossman was named the starter..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
