Pennsylvania judge blocks Voter ID law

[Mungwater 601]

Iveprobably had my license expire 3 times since opening my checking account.

 

But you had to have renewed it three times for it to expire.

 

BofA requires an ID when I put money in my account

[Thornton Melon 648]

Have you ever showed up at the polling place and had the nice old lady behind the table say "gee whiz, that's funny, according to our records Mr. Melon from Main Street already cast his vote"?

 

Have you ever even HEARD of that happening to someone you know?

 

Me neither.

 

No, I haven't. No one's gone into a bank and withdrawn any money from my account either. Do you know why?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

So... not anyone getting entitlements, because they would already have ID. Honest working people, albeit with probably low-paying jobs. Would these people not tend to already have a valid state-issued ID for... something? Honest question, I'm not fishing.

In Texas employers are required to get two forms of ID before you are hired.

 

So, not only does Obama and the Federal Govt require people to have a photo ID to get food stamps and welfare, but anyone with a job (at least in Texas) has to have a photo ID.

 

 

Not sure where all these people are that are running around with no ID.

[MDC 7,889]

But you had to have renewed it three times for it to expire.

 

BofA requires an ID when I put money in my account

 

I renewed it because I drive. Citizens bank does not require I'd for a deposit.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

I renewed it because I drive. Citizens bank does not require I'd for a deposit.

Not too many thieves show up to put money INTO your account, Genius. Well, you do live in the armpit of Philthy so I guess anything is possible.

 

I bet they asked for an "I'd" when you opened the account. Racists!

[Mungwater 601]

I renewed it because I drive. Citizens bank does not require I'd for a deposit.

 

I thought it was weird too, but I asked the lady, she said they do that to push more people to use the ATM for deposits.

[MDC 7,889]

Not too many thieves show up to put money INTO your account, Genius.

 

Which is why someone who doesn't drive may not need a photo ID.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Which is why someone who doesn't drive may not need a photo ID.

Do they have a job?

 

Collect welfare?

 

Foodstamps?

 

Fly on a plane?

 

Have a cell phone not provided by Obama?

 

Rent an apartment?

 

Pay utilities?

 

I could go on, but these are a few of the things that require a photo ID.

[phillybear 366]

As long as you admit that you were wrong and there's really only one center city location readily accessible by mass transit, I don't care what you think about the law or anything else.

 

Every block in the city limits is accessible by mass transit.

[Phurfur 70]

Which is why someone who doesn't drive may not need a photo ID.

 

Please explain to me why you demand that anyone who walks into the USA have the right to vote.

[phillybear 366]

I think photo IDs are free at PennDOT, although it's been costing the state many millions to keep up with increased demand at ID centers. The money for the ID isn't the big issue. Asking the working poor to essentially take a half day off to wait hours in line at the DMV is the real problem.

 

Asking poor people to miss a week of work for jury duty is a real problem. Yet, they do it. Not voting is a matter of being lazy.

[phillybear 366]

Center City is Philadelphia's downtown and it is bordered by rivers on the west and east, and roughly Spring Garden to the north and South Street to the South. That's something like 400+ square blocks.

 

Arch Street is the only one located in this radius. Yes, I'm guessing it's hard to get to a PennDOT location that's several miles outside the downtown if you don't own a car.

 

hth

 

Everybody that lives in Center City is the owner of a store living on the premises or the affluent living in a high rise. Where are these so called poor people you are blathering on about? They can't afford the rent.

[phillybear 366]

Me too but I've been at the same job for 8 years. What if you get a job and your ID expires? Or if you're unemployed?

 

Hopefully that idiot will die.

[phillybear 366]

You posted a bunch of locations, one of which is 6 miles outside the city (Island Ave. is across the street from the airport) and one in a place called Lawndale I've honestly never heard of. One of your two isn't in center city, it's in South Philly along Delaware Ave. I have no idea how you'd get there via mass transit.

 

You realize that the working poor aren't necessarily 9-5ers and some work Saturdays? Or they're caring for kids they can't leave for the hours long ordeal of getting a photo ID?

 

I really deserve some credit for being so patient in this thread.

 

I am simply stunned that so many people don't have time to do grocery shopping or go to a movie or visit a relative. Lordy, Lord, the poor are chained up to their radiators, unable to leave their houses.

 

Also, it is a legal requirement to have photo ID at the time of hiring or you are then an illegal employee.

[Frank M 181]

Please explain to me why you demand that anyone who walks into the USA have the right to vote.

 

He doesn't. He just demands that the right not be taken away from Americans because they do not possess something that the law does not require them to have.

[phillybear 366]

So now you're leaving work @ 5, going home to your kids in North Philly or whatever, loading them onto a bus and getting back to the DMV between the hours of 5-7:30?

 

Good luck with that.

 

Well, then they won't have time to vote after work either. The problem is solved.

[MDC 7,889]

Do they have a job?

 

Collect welfare?

 

Foodstamps?

 

Fly on a plane?

 

Have a cell phone not provided by Obama?

 

Rent an apartment?

 

Pay utilities?

 

I could go on, but these are a few of the things that require a photo ID.

 

The only one of these that requires a photo ID anytime but the first is getting on a plane.

[phillybear 366]

Iveprobably had my license expire 3 times since opening my checking account.

 

You're a piece of sh!t.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

The only one of these that requires a photo ID anytime but the first is getting on a plane.

Glad you admit they all require a photo ID.

[MDC 7,889]

You're a piece of sh!t.

 

[MDC 7,889]

Glad you admit they all require a photo ID.

 

Never said otherwise Welchy.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Never said otherwise Welchy.

Glad you admit you had no point.

[MDC 7,889]

Glad you admit you had no point.

 

It flew right over your head like a wifi signal from the FBI.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

It flew right over your head like a wifi signal from the FBI.

Sure hope you aren't relying on these fishing trips to feed that balloon-headed retard son of yours.

[MDC 7,889]

Sure hope you aren't relying on these fishing trips to feed that balloon-headed retard son of yours.

 

How are your sons? Happy that New Dad can get mom off?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

How are your sons? Happy that New Dad can get mom off?

 

Keep casting, Loser. Mebbe you will foul hook someone.

[Frank M 181]

Do they have a job?

 

Collect welfare?

 

Foodstamps?

 

Fly on a plane?

 

Have a cell phone not provided by Obama?

 

Rent an apartment?

 

Pay utilities?

 

I could go on, but these are a few of the things that require a photo ID.

 

None of these are rights. Voting is, for all Americans over the age of 18, barring certain circumstances, such as being convicted of a felony.

 

Why would you deny Americans the right to vote just because they don't have a photo ID that is not required by law for them to possess?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

None of these are rights. Voting is, for all Americans over the age of 18, barring certain circumstances, such as being convicted of a felony.

 

Why would you deny Americans the right to vote just because they don't have a photo ID that is not required by law for them to possess?

Gawd you are fukking dense. Nobody said they were "rights". They are examples of where poor people have to have a photo ID to function in society, and demonstrate you can't do much of anything without one.

 

You keep saying the right to vote is being "denied" because an ID isn't required by law. Um, wasn't there a law passed saying as much?

[Frank M 181]

Gawd you are fukking dense. Nobody said they were "rights". They are examples of where poor people have to have a photo ID to function in society, and demonstrate you can't do much of anything without one.

 

You keep saying the right to vote is being "denied" because an ID isn't required by law. Um, wasn't there a law passed saying as much?

 

There is a law requiring everyone to possess a photo ID? That's news to me.

 

Some states passed laws requiring it as a condition to vote, but you are not required by law to possess one.

 

And that's my point, which you obviously can't comprehend because you're a little thick yourself. The law is ###### up, and this Pennsylvania judge was right to stop it because of it's potential to disenfranchise voters.

 

Or were you just coming in here to show your stupidity? If so, congrats. You succeeded admirably.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

There is a law requiring everyone to possess a photo ID? That's news to me.

 

Some states passed laws requiring it as a condition to vote, but you are not required by law to possess one.

 

And that's my point, which you obviously can't comprehend because you're a little thick yourself. The law is ###### up, and this Pennsylvania judge was right to stop it because of it's potential to disenfranchise voters.

 

Or were you just coming in here to show your stupidity? If so, congrats. You succeeded admirably.

Link to me saying there is a law requiring everyone to possess a photo ID?

 

I clearly said the law was passed requiring a photo ID to vote, Tardo.

 

You have once again avoided the fact that poor people have to have a photo ID to get the govt benes they rely on, or function in many other aspects of society. How convenient of you.

[Frank M 181]

Link to me saying there is a law requiring everyone to possess a photo ID?

 

I clearly said the law was passed requiring a photo ID to vote, Tardo.

 

You have once again avoided the fact that poor people have to have a photo ID to get the govt benes they rely on, or function in many other aspects of society. How convenient of you.

 

Avoided your strawman, absolutely. But I like how you ape the line that all poor people are on the government dole.

 

Please explain how the ability to function well in society has anything to do with the right to vote. You conservatards like to throw out this argument that it isn't that difficult to get an ID as some reason to require one to vote. Not one of you has addressed the complete lack of voter fraud that all of these laws are based on.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Not one of you has addressed the complete lack of voter fraud that all of these laws are based on.

Eric Holder said the same thing a while back.

 

 

 

 

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2012/04/09/Okeefe-Holder

 

 

Nope, no need to have IDs.

[Frank M 181]

Eric Holder said the same thing a while back.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5p70YbRiPw&feature=player_embedded

 

 

 

http://www.breitbart...9/Okeefe-Holder

 

 

Nope, no need to have IDs.

 

That's great. So a breitbart video is enough to convince you, not the studies that show impersonation voter fraud amounted to ten cases in one election cycle, or less than 1% of all fraud cases.

 

That's about what I'd expect.

 

You gonna spring an ACORN video on us now?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

That's great. So a breitbart video is enough to convince you, not the studies that show impersonation voter fraud amounted to ten cases in one election cycle, or less than 1% of all fraud cases.

 

That's about what I'd expect.

 

You gonna spring an ACORN video on us now?

Your last post claimed "a complete lack of voter fraud".

 

Nice crawfish.

[gocolts 300]

Did that ever happen? Should we change the law because someone could have come in and said he was you? Even though it's never happened to you and doesn't happen on any level?

 

Is that a good enough reason to deny any American the right to vote?

 

There is a law requiring everyone to possess a photo ID? That's news to me.

 

Some states passed laws requiring it as a condition to vote, but you are not required by law to possess one.

 

And that's my point, which you obviously can't comprehend because you're a little thick yourself. The law is ###### up, and this Pennsylvania judge was right to stop it because of it's potential to disenfranchise voters.

 

Or were you just coming in here to show your stupidity? If so, congrats. You succeeded admirably.

 

So one potential outweighs the other.

[Frank M 181]

Your last post claimed "a complete lack of voter fraud".

 

Nice crawfish.

 

Really? That's the best you got?

 

 

I put the link up pages ago.

 

 

Admit that you think we should disenfranchise thousands of people for something that happens less than 1% of the time. Better yet, admit you think we should take away the right to vote from people who might vote for Obama, since this is really the goal of all these laws.

 

I'd have more respect for you.

[Frank M 181]

So one potential outweighs the other.

 

10 cases of documented fraud versus thousands of disenfranchised voters? Yeah, I'd say one outweighs the other.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Really? That's the best you got?

 

 

I put the link up pages ago.

 

 

Admit that you think we should disenfranchise thousands of people for something that happens less than 1% of the time. Better yet, admit you think we should take away the right to vote from people who might vote for Obama, since this is really the goal of all these laws.

 

I'd have more respect for you.

Link to anyone being disenfranchised by these laws?

 

Not hypotheticals......let's see you put up at least one example.

[drobeski 3,061]

Voter fraud should not be tolerated from either side. Voter ID solves this problem. Plain an simple..... If you do not support voter ID laws you support fraud.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Voter suppression should not be tolerated from either side. Plain an simple..... If you support voter ID laws you do not support democracy.

 

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