Pennsylvania judge blocks Voter ID law

[Frank M 181]

you also have to fill and I-9, which shows you are a citizen to work here in the states. we haven't seen the president's I-9 either. there should be one from every job he received a salary. wait, has he ever worked anywhere?

 

Is working a requirement for voting?

[Frank M 181]

And you are in favor of allowing fraudulent voting. You must be proud.

 

You can't be in favor of something that doesn't exist.

 

HTH

[BudBro 183]

I'm happy for you that you are in favor of denying Americans their rights. You must be proud.

kinda makes you wonder if they have an id to get the free obama phone or the ssi benefits or schip health benefits for their kids. surely you don't just show and say "i'd like a check please." right?

 

so who are we discriminating against? would it be poor, black folks on ssi or medicaid benefits? no. they showed an id to obtain those. is it poor white folks on ssi or medicaid? no. they showed an id. so, who is left? mexicans who are here illegally? but, somehow they find a way to get an id to get benefits. you can't fish without id to buy a license.

 

what's the outrage frankm? i don't get it. if you can somehow find a way to get an id to get freebies, then show the f&*kin id to vote. and get your dead a$$ off the couch and show up at the polling place to vote. you've had 4 years to find a ride, and most have a polling place within a couple blocks of their house. no more mail-in ballots so you can vote in more than one state. if you're serving in iraq, i see the mail-in as an option, but that's it. your doctor's appt has a calendar also and you can vacation another week or not vote. if you're not there that day, tough sh**t. it's not like you didn't know it was happening. stop apologizing for the turds and stop enabling them. if they have that much trouble wanting to participate, then maybe it's best they don't.

[JTB 52]

You can't be in favor of something that doesn't exist.

 

HTH

 

Show me 1 person who has not been able to vote based on this proposed law. You can't produce something that doesn't exist.

 

HTH!

[Frank M 181]

kinda makes you wonder if they have an id to get the free obama phone or the ssi benefits or schip health benefits for their kids. surely you don't just show and say "i'd like a check please." right?

 

so who are we discriminating against? would it be poor, black folks on ssi or medicaid benefits? no. they showed an id to obtain those. is it poor white folks on ssi or medicaid? no. they showed an id. so, who is left? mexicans who are here illegally? but, somehow they find a way to get an id to get benefits. you can't fish without id to buy a license.

 

what's the outrage frankm? i don't get it. if you can somehow find a way to get an id to get freebies, then show the f&*kin id to vote. and get your dead a$ off the couch and show up at the polling place to vote. you've had 4 years to find a ride, and most have a polling place within a couple blocks of their house. no more mail-in ballots so you can vote in more than one state. if you're serving in iraq, i see the mail-in as an option, but that's it. your doctor's appt has a calendar also and you can vacation another week or not vote. if you're not there that day, tough sh**t. it's not like you didn't know it was happening. stop apologizing for the turds and stop enabling them. if they have that much trouble wanting to participate, then maybe it's best they don't.

 

Typical right wing blather. The only reason for this type of law is to prevent a certain segment of the voting populace from voting, since you already have to show some kind of identification to vote and since there is no evidence of fraud on any kind of scale that would necessitate such a law. And coincidentally ( ), the largest segment of voters that the law will affect is a segment that typically votes Democrat.

 

Sh1t, just say you want to increase the chances for Republicans to win. I'd have more respect for you

[JTB 52]

Show me 1 person who has not been able to vote based on this proposed law. You can't produce something that doesn't exist.

 

HTH!

 

 

I'm waiting FrankM.....

[Frank M 181]

Show me 1 person who has not been able to vote based on this proposed law. You can't produce something that doesn't exist.

 

HTH!

 

[Mookz 1,374]

You can't be in favor of something that doesn't exist.

 

HTH

I'm in favor of hot chicks who want to date me.

[Frank M 181]

I'm in favor of hot chicks who want to date me.

 

Point taken.

[jerryskids 7,085]

 

I agree that that is an issue which needs to be addressed. There should be a simpler process for people born before birth certificates were issued. If you've been voting for 80 years, we'll grandfather you in$#@!

 

I'm guessing this isn't the profile of all of those people in line in Philly though. Seriously, who are these people who don't have IDs?

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Ok Liberal fuckos

 

If the voter id law isn't passed until the day after the election are you suggesting there would't be an issue?

 

Umm, there will be more elections after this one (unless the Mayans were right). So yeah, it would still be an issue, fucko.

[MDC 7,889]

I'm guessing this isn't the profile of all of those people in line in Philly though. Seriously, who are these people who don't have IDs?

 

My guess is they're people who don't drive because they can't afford a car or don't want one, since they live / work in the same city.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Right-wingers now hate democracy when it doesn't favor them. I'm starting to think we really do need to split into two countries. You guys can have a conservative autocracy and we'll stick with a democratic form of government.

[jerryskids 7,085]

My guess is they're people who don't drive because they can't afford a car or don't want one, since they live / work in the same city.

So... not anyone getting entitlements, because they would already have ID. Honest working people, albeit with probably low-paying jobs. Would these people not tend to already have a valid state-issued ID for... something? Honest question, I'm not fishing.

[Frank M 181]

I agree that that is an issue which needs to be addressed. There should be a simpler process for people born before birth certificates were issued. If you've been voting for 80 years, we'll grandfather you in$#@!

 

I'm guessing this isn't the profile of all of those people in line in Philly though. Seriously, who are these people who don't have IDs?

 

That's not the point. If fraud were rampant, I could see the point of the laws. It's not. Why do we need these laws, then?

 

There are people who don't have IDs. Whether that sounds ridiculous or not, they do exist, and they have the same right to vote as people who don't. Making it more difficult in the name of combating something that doesn't happen smacks of trying to prevent a segment of the population that votes Democrat from voting.

[BudBro 183]

Typical right wing blather. The only reason for this type of law is to prevent a certain segment of the voting populace from voting, since you already have to show some kind of identification to vote and since there is no evidence of fraud on any kind of scale that would necessitate such a law. And coincidentally ( ), the largest segment of voters that the law will affect is a segment that typically votes Democrat.

 

Sh1t, just say you want to increase the chances for Republicans to win. I'd have more respect for you

retarded typical liberal nonsense. of course the largest segment affected is democrat because there are more registered democrats.

 

actually, i want the vote and the election to represent the values of america and i will live within that framework. if america votes again to be broke-diick, then we all will adapt to a broke-diick america. if the attitudes begin to change to a more independent, stronger america then i'm in.

[MDC 7,889]

So... not anyone getting entitlements, because they would already have ID. Honest working people, albeit with probably low-paying jobs. Would these people not tend to already have a valid state-issued ID for... something? Honest question, I'm not fishing.

 

I don't know how entitlements work. I'm guessing you don't need to continually re-display your photo ID over and over every time you collect a welfare or SSI check so it could be an issue for those people too, who knows? I'd be curious to find out.

 

My driver's license and passport are my only valid photo IDs. I'm not sure what other form of state issued IDs are out there.

[Frank M 181]

retarded typical liberal nonsense. of course the largest segment affected is democrat because there are more registered democrats.

 

actually, i want the vote and the election to represent the values of america and i will live within that framework. if america votes again to be broke-diick, then we all will adapt to a broke-diick america. if the attitudes begin to change to a more independent, stronger america then i'm in.

 

Except for the value of letting all Americans who are eligible vote.

 

Yeah, what a great American you are.

[BudBro 183]

Right-wingers now hate democracy when it doesn't favor them. I'm starting to think we really do need to split into two countries. You guys can have a conservative autocracy and we'll stick with a democratic form of government.

this is retarded also. re.tarded. it's difficult sharing this planet with this gibberish. fairness without rules, unless the rules punish one group to benefit another, then it's ok. we can't even follow the foolishness you purport.

[Mookz 1,374]

I agree that that is an issue which needs to be addressed. There should be a simpler process for people born before birth certificates were issued. If you've been voting for 80 years, we'll grandfather you in$#@!

 

I'm guessing this isn't the profile of all of those people in line in Philly though. Seriously, who are these people who don't have IDs?

I see what you did there.

[Frank M 181]

this is retarded also. re.tarded. it's difficult sharing this planet with this gibberish. fairness without rules, unless the rules punish one group to benefit another, then it's ok. we can't even follow the foolishness you purport.

 

Schizophrenia at it's best!

 

[BudBro 183]

Except for the value of letting all Americans who are eligible vote.

 

Yeah, what a great American you are.

i don't know what this means. you've yet to make any sort of point. you're in favor of voter intimidation at the polls by armed militants without prosecution yet it's republican voter intimidation to ask someone to show who they are. is that correct? i'm having trouble following the nonsense.

[jerryskids 7,085]

I don't know how entitlements work. I'm guessing you don't need to continually re-display your photo ID over and over every time you collect a welfare or SSI check so it could be an issue for those people too, who knows? I'd be curious to find out.

 

My driver's license and passport are my only valid photo IDs. I'm not sure what other form of state issued IDs are out there.

States issue non-driver IDs all of the time. My Mom had one because she no longer drove.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,604]

I don't know how entitlements work. I'm guessing you don't need to continually re-display your photo ID over and over every time you collect a welfare or SSI check so it could be an issue for those people too, who knows? I'd be curious to find out.

 

My driver's license and passport are my only valid photo IDs. I'm not sure what other form of state issued IDs are out there.

 

 

You need a valid photo ID to cash those checks.

 

What you're basically asking for is special treatment for the poor. They don't need special treatment. When the poor need money, they know the system better than anybody. That is their work. Working the system. So to say it's an inconvenience and agianst their civil rights is a flat out lie.

[BudBro 183]

Schizophrenia at it's best!

 

your arguments don't work, so you flip to the last page where maddow tells you that alinskly said "now, call them names." way to follow the playbook. what else you got?

[Frank M 181]

i don't know what this means. you've yet to make any sort of point. you're in favor of voter intimidation at the polls by armed militants without prosecution yet it's republican voter intimidation to ask someone to show who they are. is that correct? i'm having trouble following the nonsense.

 

WTF?

 

Get off the crack, dipshit.

[BudBro 183]

WTF?

 

Get off the crack, dipshit.

you're making my point. keep talking.

[Frank M 181]

You need a valid photo ID to cash those checks.

 

What you're basically asking for is special treatment for the poor. They don't need special treatment. When the poor need money, they know the system better than anybody. That is their work. Working the system. So to say it's an inconvenience and agianst their civil rights is a flat out lie.

 

Who's asking for special treatment? I'm against disenfranchising people by requiring them to produce, at the voting booth, only one specific form of ID that you are not required by law to have.

[MDC 7,889]

States issue non-driver IDs all of the time. My Mom had one because she no longer drove.

 

I never said you couldn't get a non-driver ID. I said I'm guessing the people in line at PennDOT don't have one. Unless there's been a huge upsurge in adults who want to get a driver's license the past few months.

[MDC 7,889]

You need a valid photo ID to cash those checks.

 

I've never needed a photo ID to deposit a check into my checking account.

 

What you're basically asking for is special treatment for the poor. They don't need special treatment. When the poor need money, they know the system better than anybody. That is their work. Working the system. So to say it's an inconvenience and agianst their civil rights is a flat out lie.

 

I never said it was against their civil rights but I'd imagine it's an inconvenience for some people to get to PennDOT. It's also cost the state millions of dollars to issue all these new licenses and it's costing political campaigns no small $$$ to inform people of the new ID laws.

 

I'm generally not in favor of throwing up hoops for people to jump through just so they can vote.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,604]

I've never needed a photo ID to deposit a check into my checking account.

 

 

 

 

 

But you did need one to open the checking account. :doh:

[drobeski 3,061]

another loss for democracy

[Frank M 181]

another loss win for democracy

 

Fixed.

 

Unless you believe taking the right to vote away from people is the way to go. I'm glad I don't have such an un-American attitude.

[MDC 7,889]

But you did need one to open the checking account. :doh:

 

Iveprobably had my license expire 3 times since opening my checking account.

[Thornton Melon 648]

Incidence of fraud

 

 

 

So, you're in favor of a law that prevents something that basically never happens on the off chance that it could happen, even if it means some Americans are denied their rights.

 

 

 

 

Still.......YES

 

I'll tell ya, it still blows my mind that every time I go to the polls, all I have to do is answer the questions: "What street?" and "Name?". I answer "Main Street" and "Thornton Melon", and off I go to vote. Dumb.....

[IGotWorms 4,063]

WTF?

 

Get off the crack, dipshit.

 

BudBro is fockin nuts. It's like arguing with someone from another planet. You're never gonna get on the same wavelength so why bother?

[drobeski 3,061]

Fixed.

 

Unless you believe taking the right to vote away from people is the way to go. I'm glad I don't have such an un-American attitude.

A voter

there is fraud, its rampant, you girls are scared....go voice your opinion on an important matter like libya. Having to show an ID is common sense, if you're against it you're a hack.

[Phurfur 70]

I've never needed a photo ID to deposit a check into my checking account.

 

And you don't need one to deposit a check into my account. Please do.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Still.......YES

 

I'll tell ya, it still blows my mind that every time I go to the polls, all I have to do is answer the questions: "What street?" and "Name?". I answer "Main Street" and "Thornton Melon", and off I go to vote. Dumb.....

 

Have you ever showed up at the polling place and had the nice old lady behind the table say "gee whiz, that's funny, according to our records Mr. Melon from Main Street already cast his vote"?

 

Have you ever even HEARD of that happening to someone you know?

 

Me neither.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,604]

Iveprobably had my license expire 3 times since opening my checking account.

 

 

Sooooooo. You did need a valid picture ID to open the account. As long as you are depositing money, the bank has no idea if your license has expired or not. Invalid point.

 

Are you saying that you didn't need a valid ID to open the account? That would be against the law.