So this Hugo Chavez dead thing....

[BunnysBastatrds 2,446]

It's OK Bunny. You can calm down now.

 

 

I need a raw tater and a glass of milk damn't.

 

Chavez is and was the biggest piece of sh!t dictator that ever lived this past quarter century. He was constantly fighting and campaigning against the man. Sound familiar? South America is a bigger shithole than it was before because of him. I hate people like him. And I hate dumb ass motherfawkers who live in freedom and find a way to show him respect when his dumb ass motherfawking peeps live like animals and Hollywood dooshbags adore him. South America is a better place because of his DEATH. if you disagree with that statement.....you are a fawking idiot.

 

 

[Voltaire 5,317]

And so are you Worms. He was a doshbag. And you defend him? How do you defend a man who steals from the poor and then tells them that they are to blame?

 

Did you even read the post you quoted?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Wrong assertion dumbass. I don't give a fock who Chavez endorsed, because he was a POS dictator. What I want is a link to the Obama Administration supporting Chavez. THAT would be newsworthy.

You didn't specify which assertion you wanted a link to, dumbass.

 

I guess you are ignorant of the fact Obama loaned Venezuala $2 Billion for offshore drilling at the same time he was cutting back on permits on federal land in the U.S. Seems like support to me, dumbass.

[MDC 7,457]

Can we get a link to where the White House "struck Chavez is a positive light" many times?

[RLLD 4,237]

Other than standing up to an overbearing US government, what exactly was this problem with this guy? Are we to dislike him for objecting to the new form of American colonialism and imperialism? I do not blame him on bit for standing up against it. I am shocked he was allowed to live this long, the US normally finds a way to depose or dispose of people like Chavez.

[MedStudent 56]

I need a raw tater and a glass of milk damn't.

 

Chavez is and was the biggest piece of sh!t dictator that ever lived this past quarter century. He was constantly fighting and campaigning against the man. Sound familiar? South America is a bigger shithole than it was before because of him. I hate people like him. And I hate dumb ass motherfawkers who live in freedom and find a way to show him respect when his dumb ass motherfawking peeps live like animals and Hollywood dooshbags adore him. South America is a better place because of his DEATH. if you disagree with that statement.....you are a fawking idiot.

 

 

The North Korea guy was/is way worse. There can only be one 'biggest piece of sh1t dictator'. Don't overuse hyperboles when talking about dictators or you'll start sounding like one of those gawdawful nfl announcers who declare ever player the greatest.

[RLLD 4,237]

I need a raw tater and a glass of milk damn't.

 

Chavez is and was the biggest piece of sh!t dictator that ever lived this past quarter century. He was constantly fighting and campaigning against the man. Sound familiar? South America is a bigger shithole than it was before because of him. I hate people like him. And I hate dumb ass motherfawkers who live in freedom and find a way to show him respect when his dumb ass motherfawking peeps live like animals and Hollywood dooshbags adore him. South America is a better place because of his DEATH. if you disagree with that statement.....you are a fawking idiot.

 

 

 

You are incorrect sir.

 

Only those nations where our country has interfered have become sh!tholes, and we make sure they are that way, and that they are heavily reliant on us.

 

He introduced policies that brought tangible and sweeping benefits to his people, Plan Bolivar was an enormous success. This was unpalatable to the elite economic interests in our nation who used the time-tested tool of their control of our government to facilitate regime change through the Coordinadora Democrática de Acción Cívica. Our government has done this for decades in places like Iran, Iraq, Guatemala, Chile and others.

 

it did not work this time and who benefited? The people of Venezuela. Chavez survived to continue to help his people, and its marvelous...if only because the the morally bankrupt greedy in the US could not exploit them. I fear for the people of that country without Chavez protecting them from our country.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

You are incorrect sir.

 

Only those nations where our country has interfered have become sh!tholes, and we make sure they are that way, and that they are heavily reliant on us.

 

He introduced policies that brought tangible and sweeping benefits to his people, Plan Bolivar was an enormous success. This was unpalatable to the elite economic interests in our nation who used the time-tested tool of their control of our government to facilitate regime change through the Coordinadora Democrática de Acción Cívica. Our government has done this for decades in places like Iran, Iraq, Guatemala, Chile and others.

 

it did not work this time and who benefited? The people of Venezuela. Chavez survived to continue to help his people, and its marvelous...if only because the the morally bankrupt greedy in the US could not exploit them. I fear for the people of that country without Chavez protecting them from our country.

[RLLD 4,237]

 

Nice counter, I have more actual real world information for you to pretend does not exist but certainly you never let fact stand in the way of your consumption of propoganda

[TimmySmith 2,782]

The North Korea guy was/is way worse. There can only be one 'biggest piece of sh1t dictator'. Don't overuse hyperboles when talking about dictators or you'll start sounding like one of those gawdawful nfl announcers who declare ever player the greatest.

Not so sure. NK is a puppet of China, held up to be the last bastion of communism. Chavez withheld easily obtainable wealth and services from his people in order to maintain power, while aiding every criminal in South America and the Caribbean for his own gain.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Can we get a link to where the White House "struck Chavez is a positive light" many times?

 

Don't hold your breath

[Me_2006 14]

Other than standing up to an overbearing US government, what exactly was this problem with this guy? Are we to dislike him for objecting to the new form of American colonialism and imperialism? I do not blame him on bit for standing up against it. I am shocked he was allowed to live this long, the US normally finds a way to depose or dispose of people like Chavez.

 

Wait, what? Talk to me here, Ray. Give me the pro-Chavez side of the story, because he seems indefensible to me. I'm open to learning more, and I know you don't just pull things out of your ass.

[penultimatestraw 473]

It's a good point, although I honestly don't know whether it's possible to trigger cancer in someone. Seems like something you'd see in the movies but who knows?

Sure you can - ask the tobacco industry. Or Hiroshima survivors. Also there are many infections which promote cancer, though one would have to be pretty patient if they wanted to "infect" someone with cancer.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Sure you can - ask the tobacco industry. Or Hiroshima survivors. Also there are many infections which promote cancer, though one would have to be pretty patient if they wanted to "infect" someone with cancer.

 

Well that's what I meant, if it's possible to trigger a very quick onset.

[MDC 7,457]

Don't hold your breath

 

As someone who made no claims about the nutritional value of hamburgers I have a right to know!

[RLLD 4,237]

Wait, what? Talk to me here, Ray. Give me the pro-Chavez side of the story, because he seems indefensible to me. I'm open to learning more, and I know you don't just pull things out of your ass.

 

 

I am not intending to suggest that he is pure as driven snow, I do not believe that any leader is, but his actions have been consistent in serving his people over the elite class. This has made him a BIG target for the US who would prefer to setup a post-Yugoslavian-style colony down in South American.

 

Our own leadership has been far more insidious than Chavez IMHO. I look at his programs an its pretty clear why the people love him so much, he did not merely serve the interests of the few economic elite, but those of the population overall. As a result he is vilified by the US propaganda machine. But he has indicated in the past how US interference in a nation always results in economic stagnation and the removal of freedoms.

 

i cannot blame the guy one bit for even his less desirable actions, he was facing at all times a consistent effort by our government to undermine his position.

[wiffleball 4,790]

I didn't know a whole lot, so I pulled this:

 

• Unemployment has dropped from 14.5% of the total labour force in 1999 to 7.6% in 2009

• Population has increased from 23,867,000 in 1999 to 29,278,000 in 2011. The annual population growth was 1.5% in 2011 compared with 1.9% in 1999

 

• GDP per capita has risen from $4,105 to $10,801 in 2011

 

• As you can see in the graphic chart, Venezuela's inflation has fluctuated since 1999. Inflation now stands at 31.6% compared with 23.6% in 1999

 

• Venezuela has a complicated history concerning currency exchange rates. Compared with 1999 when the exchange rate was under one bolivar to the US dollar, the latest figures from Reuters place it at 4.3 Bolivars to one dollar

 

• Poverty has decreased - in 1999, 23.4% of the population were recorded as being in extreme poverty, this fell to 8.5% in 2011 according to official government figures

 

• Infant mortality is now lower than in 1999 - from a rate of 20 per 1,000 live births then to a rate of 13 per 1,000 live births in 2011

 

• Violence has been a key concern in Venezuela for some time - figures from the UNODC state that the murder rate has risen since 1999. In 2011 the intentional homicide rate per 100,000 population was 45.1 compared with 25.0 just twelve years earlier

 

• Oil exports have boomed - Venezuela has one of the top proven oil reserves in the world and in 2011 Opec put the country's net oil export revenues at $60bn. In 1999 it stood at $14.4bn

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2012/oct/04/venezuela-hugo-chavez-election-data

[IGotWorms 4,058]

I am not intending to suggest that he is pure as driven snow, I do not believe that any leader is, but his actions have been consistent in serving his people over the elite class. This has made him a BIG target for the US who would prefer to setup a post-Yugoslavian-style colony down in South American.

 

Our own leadership has been far more insidious than Chavez IMHO. I look at his programs an its pretty clear why the people love him so much, he did not merely serve the interests of the few economic elite, but those of the population overall. As a result he is vilified by the US propaganda machine. But he has indicated in the past how US interference in a nation always results in economic stagnation and the removal of freedoms.

 

i cannot blame the guy one bit for even his less desirable actions, he was facing at all times a consistent effort by our government to undermine his position.

 

You're a Blame America first guy. You like Chavez because he bucked the United States and emphasized Venazuelan independence. Maybe that was a good thing for his people but guess what? He was also a fockin dictator. Just because he defied the US doesn't make that okay.

[GettnHuge 2]

You're a Blame America first guy. You like Chavez because he bucked the United States and emphasized Venazuelan independence. Maybe that was a good thing for his people but guess what? He was also a fockin dictator. Just becausr he defied the US doesn't make that okay.

 

He was a dictator because he in a very hostile way took over all the major industries, eliminated freedom of the press, replacing it with gov't tv/news stations

and papers, and made opponents or critics of his disappear.

[DankNuggs 305]

haha, people talking well of Chavez... People are just crazy... I think this country has just s many stupid people as anywhere else... It used to be that education helped prevent you from being stupid... now education is the source of stupidity...

[BunnysBastatrds 2,446]

Other than standing up to an overbearing US government, what exactly was this problem with this guy? Are we to dislike him for objecting to the new form of American colonialism and imperialism? I do not blame him on bit for standing up against it. I am shocked he was allowed to live this long, the US normally finds a way to depose or dispose of people like Chavez.

 

 

Pocketing two billion dollars of the peoples money. Sending any opposistion of him to prison. Human rights violations. Making deals with foreign companies and then taking them over. Rigging elections.The more I think about it, being a dictator might not be so bad. We should have one.

[MedStudent 56]

Sure you can - ask the tobacco industry. Or Hiroshima survivors. Also there are many infections which promote cancer, though one would have to be pretty patient if they wanted to "infect" someone with cancer.

 

You can't infect someone with cancer, you can only increase their odds of getting it.

[drobeski 3,061]

haha, people talking well of Chavez... People are just crazy... I think this country has just s many stupid people as anywhere else... It used to be that education helped prevent you from being stupid... now education is the source of stupidity...

[BunnysBastatrds 2,446]

 

 

What's the greatest invention to come from a socialist goverment in the past fifty years?

 

It's fawking mind numbing how stoopid and ignorant this country has become.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

I do find it odd that a lot of the media coverage has been pretty even-handed or perhaps even sympathetic to Chavez.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,446]

I do find it odd that a lot of the media coverage has been pretty even-handed or perhaps even sympathetic to Chavez.

 

 

State run media can accomplish that.

[nikki2200 4]

What's the greatest invention to come from a socialist goverment in the past fifty years?

 

It's fawking mind numbing how stoopid and ignorant this country has become.

 

So out of all the countries in the Western civilized world, where do you think the US ranks on the "socialism" scale?

[BunnysBastatrds 2,446]

So out of all the countries in the Western civilized world, where do you think the US ranks on the "socialism" scale?

 

 

At the bottom but climbing fast. Our debt leading the reason why with a side of future generations dealing with it.

 

What's the greatest invention, of any country in the recent civilized world, not from the USA in the past 50 years, that made a difference to humanity? The swiss made double ###### doesn't count.

[nikki2200 4]

At the bottom but climbing fast. Our debt leading the reason why with a side of future generations dealing with it.

 

What's the greatest invention, of any country in the recent civilized world, not from the USA in the past 50 years, that made a difference to humanity? The swiss made double ###### doesn't count.

 

I was just wondering considering you think our country has become so ignorant and sucky, where in the world you would prefer to live.

 

I also kinda don't understand why you are popping a nut over this Chavez guy. He's dead. He ruled a completely different country and has no affect on you whatsoever. But you are losing your mind and making blanket statements about things that I don't even fully understand. You lashed out at Worms last night for defending him, in a direct reply to Worms calling him a POS. You are pretty riled up over this and I find it confusing.

 

Perhaps if you are watching something on TV that is sympathizing with this dead Chavez guy and it's pissing you off, you could change the channel. I would suggest Fox News. Last time I checked they were pretty far from left in their commentary. And contrary to what you believe, our media is not run by the government and there are options out there for you to change the channel if you don't like whatever it is you are watching. We even get some international news channels, such as BBC, if you feel that every US station is being run by the Michelob Light department of the fed. Just a suggestion.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

State run media can accomplish that.

 

Well I suppose it could, but that's really neither here nor there, since we do not have a state run media.

 

Or were you talking about Venezuela's media? Because I don't really follow their news.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,446]

I was just wondering considering you think our country has become so ignorant and sucky, where in the world you would prefer to live.

 

I also kinda don't understand why you are popping a nut over this Chavez guy. He's dead. He ruled a completely different country and has no affect on you whatsoever. But you are losing your mind and making blanket statements about things that I don't even fully understand. You lashed out at Worms last night for defending him, in a direct reply to Worms calling him a POS. You are pretty riled up over this and I find it confusing.

 

Perhaps if you are watching something on TV that is sympathizing with this dead Chavez guy and it's pissing you off, you could change the channel. I would suggest Fox News. Last time I checked they were pretty far from left in their commentary. And contrary to what you believe, our media is not run by the government and there are options out there for you to change the channel if you don't like whatever it is you are watching. We even get some international news channels, such as BBC, if you feel that every US station is being run by the Michelob Light department of the fed. Just a suggestion.

 

 

He's a doosh. A dictator. You not understanding that makes perfct sense. Please don't teach. EVER!

 

I love it here. I just have to deal with the stoopid. Home is home. Stoopid is stoopid.

 

Tell the HOS that you bow down to that life doesn't revolve around them. And then fawk a camel.

[nikki2200 4]

He's a doosh. A dictator. You not understanding that makes perfct sense. Please don't teach. EVER!

 

I love it here. I just have to deal with the stoopid. Home is home. Stoopid is stoopid.

 

Tell the HOS that you bow down to that life doesn't revolve around them. And then fawk a camel.

 

I can't help not understanding he's a doosh and a dictator. That's all my teachers talked about in school. And every time I turn on the TV I am receiving subliminal messages from the Miller Genuine Draft arm of the State Department telling me how what a great guy he is. So how can you blame me?

 

Oh and it's "was". Past tense. He's dead.

 

Also, I'm really not sure about the camel part. They smell pretty badly.

 

 

Dear god. :skeery:

[BunnysBastatrds 2,446]

I can't help not understanding he's a doosh and a dictator. That's all my teachers talked about in school. And every time I turn on the TV I am receiving subliminal messages from the Miller Genuine Draft arm of the State Department telling me how what a great guy he is. So how can you blame me?

 

Oh and it's "was". Past tense. He's dead.

 

Also, I'm really not sure about the camel part. They smell pretty badly.

 

 

Dear god. :skeery:

 

 

What is Chavez to you? A vote for MGD?

[nikki2200 4]

The North Korea guy was/is way worse. There can only be one 'biggest piece of sh1t dictator'. Don't overuse hyperboles when talking about dictators or you'll start sounding like one of those gawdawful nfl announcers who declare ever player the greatest.

 

How 'bout the Darfur dude? Omar al-Bashir. I think that one's pretty focking bad. I may even go with number one on my own personal list of biggest POS dictators. Any time we cross into the realm of ethnic cleansing, in the 100s of 1000s, it strikes a nerve with me. But that could be my communist government tricking me again.

 

 

 

 

This thread is cracking me up for some reason. :lol:

 

Is there anything more on this scientific committee that's supposed to be formed to figure out how the US gave Chavez cancer? That's all I really care about.

[nikki2200 4]

What is Chavez to you? A vote for MGD?

 

I know little to nothing about him and couldn't give a gnat on a ratsass that he's dead. But somehow you determined that I was incapable of understanding that he was a doosh and a dictator because I asked you why you are popping a nut over some dead dude that has no affect on your life at all. You did the same thing to Worms last night after he clearly stated he was a POS. Maybe you need a hug or something. I think it's time for your milk and nappy time.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,269]

I was just wondering considering you think our country has become so ignorant and sucky, where in the world you would prefer to live.

 

I also kinda don't understand why you are popping a nut over this Chavez guy. He's dead. He ruled a completely different country and has no affect on you whatsoever. But you are losing your mind and making blanket statements about things that I don't even fully understand. You lashed out at Worms last night for defending him, in a direct reply to Worms calling him a POS. You are pretty riled up over this and I find it confusing.

 

Perhaps if you are watching something on TV that is sympathizing with this dead Chavez guy and it's pissing you off, you could change the channel. I would suggest Fox News. Last time I checked they were pretty far from left in their commentary. And contrary to what you believe, our media is not run by the government and there are options out there for you to change the channel if you don't like whatever it is you are watching. We even get some international news channels, such as BBC, if you feel that every US station is being run by the Michelob Light department of the fed. Just a suggestion.

The "where else would you rather live?" Question used to be answered with a very simple and undeniable Nowhere Else when asked to most americans. Now its not so simple an answer.

 

Just because our country is still better to live in doesnt mean we can just ignore the mistakes made in others. It also shouldnt allow everyone to become complacent with the obvious decline of this nation by saying "well we are still technically better than most."

[nikki2200 4]

The "where else would you rather live?" Question used to be answered with a very simple and undeniable Nowhere Else when asked to most americans. Now its not so simple an answer.

 

Just because our country is still better to live in doesnt mean we can just ignore the mistakes made in others. It also shouldnt allow everyone to become complacent with the obvious decline of this nation by saying "well we are still technically better than most."

 

I never said we should ignore mistakes made in other countries, or that we are without criticism. I just get a little bit annoyed reading posts by drunken idiots saying our country is stupid and ignorant and claiming that we have state run media. If there was some sort of valid point/criticism in the pile of nonsensical poo up there, I didn't find it. Oh and he called me an idiot too by replying to something that I never said.

 

But thanks for your opinion.

 

I'll leave Bunny alone now cuz I'm tired.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,446]

I know little to nothing about him and couldn't give a gnat on a ratsass that he's dead. But somehow you determined that I was incapable of understanding that he was a doosh and a dictator because I asked you why you are popping a nut over some dead dude that has no affect on your life at all. You did the same thing to Worms last night after he clearly stated he was a POS. Maybe you need a hug or something. I think it's time for your milk and nappy time.

 

 

You know nothing about the man that this thread is about and yet find a way to comment on it. Nice. Trade cow stories with the fellow Ohio Auxillary Womans Suburban Society about how to flex your front butt with spanks.

 

You know what's funny about dumbasses like you? You refer to GH as your 'fiancee" and "boyfriend" and then offer nothing of importance to a conversation you admit to know nothing about. nikki: my fiancee is a great guy who cured cancer and fawked a hawt b!tch that dared to call him on X-Mas eve. The fact that you call him your "fiancee" shows he is a thing, not a person to you. People who refer their spouses as "husband" and "fiancee" are the most insecure people I've ever met. You refer to them by name. ." CH beat the sh!t out of the Eagles!" "CH is the greatest man I ever met!" Good luck Chuck.

[Phurfur 70]

I was just wondering considering you think our country has become so ignorant and sucky, where in the world you would prefer to live.

Why are we trying to become more like these countries we don't want to live in?

[Phurfur 70]

So out of all the countries in the Western civilized world, where do you think the US ranks on the "socialism" scale?

 

In 2008 the government controled 20% of our economy, in 2013 the government controls 39% of our economy where do you think we are going?