TD Ryan2 316 Posted August 27, 2013 Am I not remembering something correctly? Do we really know that the failures have all been by his own doing? That wouldn't make sense to me, for it to be written that way. It would make believing that he could be a successful drug kingpin hard to swallow. Wasn't it this season? Where Walt, almost as an aside, mentioned that he gave up on the company because of a 5,000 investment he chose not to make? Can't remember exactly, but the reveal to this whole thing came out and it was a bad, cheap (5k) decision Walt made. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted August 27, 2013 Wasn't it this season? Where Walt, almost as an aside, mentioned that he gave up on the company because of a 5,000 investment he chose not to make? Can't remember exactly, but the reveal to this whole thing came out and it was a bad, cheap (5k) decision Walt made. I honestly don't remember that. And... I've watched the series through (up to season 5a) twice. Damn... I must be losing it. edit: check your inbox Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted August 27, 2013 Wasn't it this season? Where Walt, almost as an aside, mentioned that he gave up on the company because of a 5,000 investment he chose not to make? Can't remember exactly, but the reveal to this whole thing came out and it was a bad, cheap (5k) decision Walt made. Exactly. In the episode where he tells Jesse it's about "an empire", he goes into the story of how he took $5000 buy out rather than forge ahead with the company that "he" started. It's also discussed early on, probably first season, when the college friends invite them to a party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted August 27, 2013 Exactly. In the episode where he tells Jesse it's about "an empire", he goes into the story of how he took $5000 buy out rather than forge ahead with the company that "he" started. It's also discussed early on, probably first season, when the college friends invite them to a party. Ok... I kinda sorta remember that. But wasn't it because he was saddled with a wife, house and a kid? (or something along those lines) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted August 27, 2013 I honestly don't remember that. And... I've watched the series through (up to season 5a) twice. Damn... I must be losing it. edit: check your inbox You also seem to forget that Skyler paid off Ted's debt's to stop any audit that would lead to Skylar, and hence Walt, being under the microscope. She didn't really have a good option there, through no real fault of her own. Is your dislike of Skylar really just a cat fight? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted August 27, 2013 Wasn't it this season? Where Walt, almost as an aside, mentioned that he gave up on the company because of a 5,000 investment he chose not to make? Can't remember exactly, but the reveal to this whole thing came out and it was a bad, cheap (5k) decision Walt made. It was never fully revealed why, but he took a 5k buyout. They hinted that it was because of drama between Walt, Gretchen, and her husband(drawing a blank on the name)...and I think Skylar as well. My guess is he had to choose between the company(and maybe Gretchen?) and Skylar and his new family. I think Walt was getting a little frisky with Gretchen and Sky found out was like "Either leave the company or I'm gone". Seems legit given Skylar's personality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted August 27, 2013 Also, I am definitely rooting for Walt. Aaron Paul says he doesn't understand this, because Walt is basically the ultimate villain. I think it was because he started good and has become evil and we have all seen this character arc....and we still somewhat sympathize with him. Fock, Jesse, why didn't you just go to Alaska?!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted August 27, 2013 You also seem to forget that Skyler paid off Ted's debt's to stop any audit that would lead to Skylar, and hence Walt, being under the microscope. She didn't really have a good option there, through no real fault of her own. Is your dislike of Skylar really just a cat fight? No... I'm not forgetting that... Mainly I think she paid it off to save her own ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted August 27, 2013 Ok... I kinda sorta remember that. But wasn't it because he was saddled with a wife, house and a kid? (or something along those lines) Again, choices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,670 Posted August 27, 2013 If Hank was running a giant Meth empire, why would he need Walt to pay his medical bills? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted August 28, 2013 If Hank was running a giant Meth empire, why would he need Walt to pay his medical bills? Because Walt handled the empire's money? They are family afterall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,670 Posted August 28, 2013 Because Walt handled the empire's money? They are family afterall. If Hank was such a monster that he would threaten Walt's life and family, why would he put Walt in charge of the money? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted August 28, 2013 If Hank was running a giant Meth empire, why would he need Walt to pay his medical bills? This was one thing I thought of. However, if you do recall, Walt was broke after the whole Gus thing, it is possible to think that after Hank's falling out with Gus, he was strapped for cash when he was shot. So, sometimes the writers reach but I think they always keep it within reason. BTW, 3 people I hope come out OK are Skylar, Saul, and Jesse. I am rooting for Walt, but I know everything will and should catch up to him. Skylar has been irritating throughout the whole series, but she is a good and smart person who was dealt an absolute sh1t hand and he did the best she could do with it. It would be nice to see her(and I guess Walt Jr and the baby) to come out of this fine. Jesse going to AK was an awesome sendoff, but god forbid we get a little bit of a feel good story in this midst of extreme darkness. There is no way Jesse isn't dead or in jail by the end of it. Saul is awesome, but I don't think he has an ace in the hole, but I see him making it out and hopefully to a spin-off that I will definitely watch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted August 28, 2013 BTW, with Todd and his neo-Nazi uncle, there will be blue meth back on the streets again. This may be enough for Hank to tell Gomie what is going on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted August 28, 2013 No... I'm not forgetting that... Mainly I think she paid it off to save her own ass. Saving her ass from what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted August 28, 2013 Saving her ass from what? Didn't she help him "fix" his books after she found out he was embezzling? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted August 28, 2013 Cant believe so few eps left and so much to tie up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted August 28, 2013 I had ahorrible "dallas" moment when walt told jesse that in a few years, this might all seem like a dream... That would suck bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted August 28, 2013 Didn't she help him "fix" his books after she found out he was embezzling? Yes, she cooked his books. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted August 29, 2013 Yes, she cooked his books. When she found out, she said she wouldn't be a part of it, and he said he would fix it. He didn't but she continued to sign the books. I am pretty sure she didn't cook his books, but, at worse, she basically turned the other cheek. Either way, like I said, Skylar is as compromised as Walt at this point. At the diner with Hank, she realized this, and from that point on she decided she is on Walt's side no matter what, as much as she maybe hated it. Skylar has been solid this season, she has had a pretty big impact since the end of the 4th season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Giants Fan 85 Posted August 29, 2013 The last episode confused me. What was Jessy freaking out about that wasn't in his pockets ... ohh .... the weed ... I was high when I watched it so ... So from that, and looking at his cigarettes ... he figures out Walt poisoned Brock? Somehow I missed that episode. Did Walt really poison Brock? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted August 29, 2013 When she found out, she said she wouldn't be a part of it, and he said he would fix it. He didn't but she continued to sign the books. I am pretty sure she didn't cook his books, but, at worse, she basically turned the other cheek. Either way, like I said, Skylar is as compromised as Walt at this point. At the diner with Hank, she realized this, and from that point on she decided she is on Walt's side no matter what, as much as she maybe hated it. Skylar has been solid this season, she has had a pretty big impact since the end of the 4th season. Yeah, you may be right. Maybe she just signed off on his cooked books. And she covered for him in the IRS meeting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted August 29, 2013 The last episode confused me. What was Jessy freaking out about that wasn't in his pockets ... ohh .... the weed ... I was high when I watched it so ... So from that, and looking at his cigarettes ... he figures out Walt poisoned Brock? Somehow I missed that episode. Did Walt really poison Brock? Yes, but not with ricin. Lily of the valley, I think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted August 29, 2013 Didn't she help him "fix" his books after she found out he was embezzling? She did this to cover Walt's ass. Ted cooked books, Skylar didn't catch it, Ted tells Skylar about IRS, Skylar knows that as the person who signed off, IRS will investigate her and Walt, if Walt is not a meth kingpin its a problem but she is not going to jail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted August 29, 2013 I don't think there's a word out of Vince Gilligan's mouth that isn't purposeful when it comes to BB. On one of the Talking Bad ep's, he was VERY deliberate in re-iterating the steps / lifecycle theme from the first season. The last two steps are something like decline, then transformation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 825 Posted August 29, 2013 The last episode confused me. What was Jessy freaking out about that wasn't in his pockets ... ohh .... the weed ... I was high when I watched it so ... So from that, and looking at his cigarettes ... he figures out Walt poisoned Brock? Somehow I missed that episode. Did Walt really poison Brock? Saul's fat Tongan security dude......He had patted Jesse down before the ricin cigarette went missing back when Brock got sick. But Walt convinced Jesse that Gus had his guys steal it while in the lab........ So when Jesse's weed goes missing just after the Tongan has patted him down again.....Jesse puts 2 and 2 together that The Tongan probably stole the ricin cig also. And then it's east to assume Walt told Saul to tell Tongan to steal the ricin. That being said, I had to be refreshed on the way the Ricin cig was stolen from Jesse before understanding completely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted August 31, 2013 Every time I read something about this show I learn something new (or at least reminded of something I overlooked ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted September 4, 2013 Just watched last night...Another Great Episode. I liked how all the main characters had big scenes, and developments. Like Skylar putting the hit out, Marie thinking constantly about poisoning Walt, and Hank's sole focus on getting him. Loved the camera angle below the door knob. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted September 4, 2013 Just watched last night...Another Great Episode. I liked how all the main characters had big scenes, and developments. Like Skylar putting the hit out, Marie thinking constantly about poisoning Walt, and Hank's sole focus on getting him. Loved the camera angle below the door knob. Yep... and another great code word from Saul: "Old Yeller". I honestly feel like 4 episodes is not enough for this series to come to a satisfactory conclusion. Why the hell couldn't they have given us more? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted September 4, 2013 Just watched last night...Another Great Episode. I liked how all the main characters had big scenes, and developments. Like Skylar putting the hit out, Marie thinking constantly about poisoning Walt, and Hank's sole focus on getting him. Loved the camera angle below the door knob. I think this episode kind of showed that no one, besides Walt Jr, is innocent in all of this. BB has the same attitude as GOT in that no character is purely evil or good, everyone is somewhere in the middle. Right now, Walt may be the most innocent of them all, he is the only one not willing to do evil to get what he wants, for once. Focking nuts, right? Skylar haters must have even been flabbergasted at her putting a hit out..."What's one more?" Holy piss. The hit isn't for Jesse, or it's not a hit at all. Walt is not going to kill Jesse, that would be too obvious. Maybe the hit is for Hank? In 4 episodes, we know that Walt gets publicly found out, goes into hiding, and comes back with guns and ricin. I agree, that seems like an incredibly tight window, but I have full trust in the writers at this point as should every BB fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted September 4, 2013 Fvcking Giants vs Cowboys SNF. will need two TVs and the game with the sound off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted September 5, 2013 Ive found myself ff through extraneous fluff lately. They need a better editor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted September 5, 2013 Ive found myself ff through extraneous fluff lately. They need a better editor. The commercials? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted September 5, 2013 The commercials? Nah. Just things that could and should easily be cut. Good example - No reason for us to see Walt's wife handing a cup of coffee to Walt. Does nothing. Hank's tour of his own house after Jesse gassed it is another. i understand this is what would actually happen in 'real life', but like this makes for wasted time. I 'get' that they're trying to build 'tension' - just like that ridiculously long scene of Jesse in front of the 'tombstones'. It's trifling over a great show, but like I said, I think the editing isn't what it could be - and the 'artful' shiit that they pulled with the gas-can cam and jesse freaking out was just self-indulgent. I really thought this most recent episode did very little to advance the show at all. Jesse ultimately didn't do diick. the 'staycation' didn't produce diick. with so few episodes left, there's a lot of potential. Honestly, when we look back on this season, I be we'll be able to say that this last ep could have been deleted entirely without any real impact on the storyline or character development. I just expect a lot more from BB than most other shows. I guess ever ep can't be a barnburner. Can't wait to see how things go down from here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted September 8, 2013 Sucks for those without a DVR/access to the internets that now it will be on during SNF BTW, just so you dinosaurs know, there are about a million and a half ways to watch a show without watching it during it's timeslot. I think about 93% of those watching BB or any show watch it at their convenience. This isn't 2004. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted September 8, 2013 True but I NEED to watch it tonight. And my beloved Giants are on SNF. Any other show would be on DVR but I cannot go to work tomorrow without watching BB tonight. It's all everyone talks about Monday morning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CantTouchThis 23 Posted September 8, 2013 True but I NEED to watch it tonight. And my beloved Giants are on SNF. Any other show would be on DVR but I cannot go to work tomorrow without watching BB tonight. It's all everyone talks about Monday morning Watch it after the game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted September 8, 2013 Watch it after the game? Will be too drunk to remember and I get up at 4:50AM for work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted September 9, 2013 Wholly Jeebus MotherFock!!!! Wow! The actress who does Skylar said there was one character she really grieved over. I think we know who that is now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted September 9, 2013 I can't believe they ended it where they did... Those sneaky, focking bastards!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
