Rashean Mathis 0 Posted September 28, 2013 Is he a viable option going forward with vereen out for the foreseeable future? Any pats homers have updates on him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philo312 41 Posted September 28, 2013 The kid has soft hands & fills the Vareen role well. Potential to be used a lot. However, Blount very well could gangster the red zone touches inside the 5 though. Eventhough, there's s huge upside to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyFourSeven 23 Posted September 28, 2013 Depends on your other options, but you could do worse that's for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WR Guru 31 Posted September 28, 2013 Talented, but always dinged up. Now he's hurt again. Just not durable enough to be relied on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the spanker 28 Posted September 28, 2013 Talented, but always dinged up. Now he's hurt again. Just not durable enough to be relied on. Â Â Link? Belichickie games and you believe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WR Guru 31 Posted September 28, 2013 Â Â Link? Belichickie games and you believe? No, I "believe" because he actually HAS missed games. He missed 2 full games last year with injuries and parts of others (and that's not even counting his suspension) and he missed the first 2 this year. Out of a possible total of 19 games going back to last year, he's played 11, and not all of those 11 were even complete games. He's not like a Welker, who was permanently "questionable" but never missed a game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,516 Posted September 28, 2013 Is he a viable option going forward with vereen out for the foreseeable future? Any pats homers have updates on him? with this team and this coach . wow its always never a a strong future unless our name is tom brady imo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the spanker 28 Posted September 29, 2013 No, I "believe" because he actually HAS missed games. He missed 2 full games last year with injuries and parts of others (and that's not even counting his suspension) and he missed the first 2 this year. Out of a possible total of 19 games going back to last year, he's played 11, and not all of those 11 were even complete games. He's not like a Welker, who was permanently "questionable" but never missed a game. Â Â I'm talking about tomorrow not his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TennisMenace 156 Posted September 29, 2013 I agree that he does seem to always be dinged and questionable to play. This makes me not want to start him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fine Lines 8 Posted September 29, 2013 Â Â I'm talking about tomorrow not his career. Â Exactly - all that matters is right now - he just needs to be healthy enough to keep carving out a role for himself. Maybe he's not great for dynasty given the injury history, but for redraft......and for having a RB who can possibly help your team get some mid season wins right now.....I just want to know if he's healthy now. Â CBS has their unreliable red cross next to his name with a questionable (knee) tag. I'm not sure if this is something new or just continuing from before last week. If it's just from before last week, it sure didn't seem to slow him down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madd futher mucker 36 Posted September 29, 2013 Fock CBS red cross. This is the Belichick 'doubtful' designation we're talking about here......means nothing. I'm almost sure Bolden will play tomorrow. But tomorrow, I'm stuck between Rice and Bolden. If Rice doesn't suit up and Bolden plays, my decision is easy. But Rice could try to give it a go and be far less than 100%, In that case, I'm between a rock and a hard place with not enough information to make a good decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,450 Posted September 29, 2013 Â Exactly - all that matters is right now - he just needs to be healthy enough to keep carving out a role for himself. Maybe he's not great for dynasty given the injury history, but for redraft......and for having a RB who can possibly help your team get some mid season wins right now.....I just want to know if he's healthy now. Â CBS has their unreliable red cross next to his name with a questionable (knee) tag. I'm not sure if this is something new or just continuing from before last week. If it's just from before last week, it sure didn't seem to slow him down. You're not getting it. The point is the guy can't be relied upon to play, tomorrow or any given game, because of his tendency to get hurt. It limits his value in any format. Â Take this weekend, for example. I could use him in the flex spot in a PPR league, but if he doesn't go I'd be pretty screwed since the Pats play the night game. So he'll be sitting on my bench. What use is that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madd futher mucker 36 Posted September 29, 2013 You're not getting it. The point is the guy can't be relied upon to play, tomorrow or any given game, because of his tendency to get hurt. It limits his value in any format. Â Take this weekend, for example. I could use him in the flex spot in a PPR league, but if he doesn't go I'd be pretty screwed since the Pats play the night game. So he'll be sitting on my bench. What use is that? Â By my count he missed the first two weeks of the season with a knee injury and weeks 7 and 8 with another knee injury sustained in the 2nd quarter of week 6. Neither injuries were serious ACL or MCL tears. And of course he was suspended for the month of November (4 games) for PEDs. So he was out a great deal of the season, but he was behind Vereen, Woodhead,and Ridley on the depth chart anyway. I think you are putting the injury prone tag on him with a very little sample size to base it on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,450 Posted September 29, 2013 Â By my count he missed the first two weeks of the season with a knee injury and weeks 7 and 8 with another knee injury sustained in the 2nd quarter of week 6. Neither injuries were serious ACL or MCL tears. And of course he was suspended for the month of November (4 games) for PEDs. But i think you are putting the injury prone tag on him with very little to base it on. The guy has missed 8 games out of a possible 19 in his career. Â And he didn't even play at all in some of the games he didn't miss. Â Maybe things change but for now he deserves the "unreliable" label. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madd futher mucker 36 Posted September 29, 2013 When you are 4th on the RB depth chart, you aren't going to see the field very much, healthy or not. You are looking at a glass half empty. Â I see a glass at least half full. He was a UDFA who made the team and contributed extremely well when he was called upon. He's a power RB with enough speed to the corner as well as good receiving hands who averaged almost 5 YPC last year in limited action. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,450 Posted September 29, 2013 When you are 4th on the RB depth chart, you aren't going to see the field very much, healthy or not. You are looking at a glass half empty. Â I see a glass at least half full. He was a UDFA who made the team and contributed extremely well when he was called upon. He's a power RB with enough speed to the corner as well as good receiving hands who averaged almost 5 YPC last year in limited action. Oh I see the upside as well and think he's a great speculative hold. Just saying I'd temper expectations until he proved reliable. Â Now watch him post 100, 40 and 2 today to make me eat my words Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saintsthunder 3 Posted September 29, 2013 would you drop him to pick up Broyles? I have McCoy, Moreno, Bernard, Bell, Tate, Bolden and Vereen on IR, WR wise i have Hartline, Gordon, and White starting with Cobb and Amendola on the bench. Broyles would be coming in to start for White. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xenophobe 1 Posted September 29, 2013 Is he playing today? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TennisMenace 156 Posted September 29, 2013 Is he playing today? monday night I believe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Bag-O-Bones 5 Posted September 29, 2013 Sunday night game vs Atlanta. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,450 Posted September 29, 2013 would you drop him to pick up Broyles? I have McCoy, Moreno, Bernard, Bell, Tate, Bolden and Vereen on IR, WR wise i have Hartline, Gordon, and White starting with Cobb and Amendola on the bench. Broyles would be coming in to start for White. Â I would not. RB depth is much more valuable than WR depth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Runningriot1966 6 Posted September 29, 2013 Has anyone heard any news today on Bolden? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WR Guru 31 Posted September 30, 2013 Â By my count he missed the first two weeks of the season with a knee injury and weeks 7 and 8 with another knee injury sustained in the 2nd quarter of week 6. Neither injuries were serious ACL or MCL tears. And of course he was suspended for the month of November (4 games) for PEDs. So he was out a great deal of the season, but he was behind Vereen, Woodhead,and Ridley on the depth chart anyway. I think you are putting the injury prone tag on him with a very little sample size to base it on. Case in point - exits yet another game early. Knee again. Not even much contact on the play. Although, if your alternative was Rice, I guess you were screwed either way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted October 13, 2014 How do owners view Bolden as a possible replacement for Ridley? Â Will it happen and will he be a worthwhile get as a RB2 on the WW? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigMilk 40 Posted October 13, 2014 Bolden is a special teamer, so he'll be suited up and could likely get some of Ridley's work. Worth a speculative add I guess if you have room. But this is a backfield Id stay far away from if you can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobSanders_33 127 Posted October 13, 2014 Most people would have said that Ridley was an uninspiring choice to put in your line up. Now take a guy that was behind Ridley and will most likely split a few of his carries with James James White and you have even less of an exciting option. I think this probably leads to more leaning on Brady and Vereen. It can also be added that if you look at New England's future schedule I don't see too many (if any) spots where you could play Bolden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antiramie 50 Posted October 13, 2014 Most people would have said that Ridley was an uninspiring choice to put in your line up. Now take a guy that was behind Ridley and will most likely split a few of his carries with James James White and you have even less of an exciting option. I think this probably leads to more leaning on Brady and Vereen. It can also be added that if you look at New England's future schedule I don't see too many (if any) spots where you could play Bolden. Â I agree that, if anything, it bumps guys in the passing attack: Gronk, Edelman, Vereen, LaFell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,450 Posted October 13, 2014 A decent fantasy player could emerge between James White and Brandon Bolden. Hard to say which though. And we're talking a flex play at best anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwentyFourSeven 23 Posted October 13, 2014 Anyone think with a short week they go with Bolden over either of the other 2 guys mentioned in this thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lv_2_hack 0 Posted October 13, 2014 So does Vereen turn into an every down back or is he still the 'passing game' running back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,450 Posted October 13, 2014 So does Vereen turn into an every down back or is he still the 'passing game' running back. I don't think they want Vereen being a 300 carry type. My guess is his workload stays about the same and a mix of Bolden and White takes Ridley's role Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted October 14, 2014 Bolden's best game was week 4 2012, went 16/137/1 vs BUF. The next week he went 14/54/0 and for the most part that was the last time he made any noise. Last year week 11 he went 13/58/1. Â Ridley's role was totally up and down this year. He had games of 19, 25 and 27 carries and games of 5 and 8 carries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,749 Posted October 14, 2014 So does Vereen turn into an every down back not a chance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lv_2_hack 0 Posted October 14, 2014 So the concensus here is that Vereen's value stays the same? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 315 Posted October 14, 2014 So the concensus here is that Vereen's value stays the same? yes. I don't see Vereen becoming a "bell cow" at all. Bolden may fill in for Ridley - but keep an eye on James White and Jonas Grey too - White lacks experience but maybe has more upside, Grey looked great in pre-season this year. And don't forget Benjarvus Green Ellis is available too - if NE gets desperate, he's a guy who know the system. Â So no, I don't think Vereen's role changes - I think NE looks at multiple other options for that "between the tackles" runner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,450 Posted October 14, 2014 So the concensus here is that Vereen's value stays the same? Slight uptick at best Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillygrrl08 139 Posted October 14, 2014 Belichik makes owning any NE RB a risky prospect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,749 Posted October 14, 2014 Belichik makes owning any NE RB a risky prospect. Â Like Blount last year? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southcarolina 166 Posted October 14, 2014  Like Blount last year? I think youre remembering Blounts two huge games in week 17 (after most leagues playoffs are over) and in the first round of the playoffs (after all leagues playoffs are over) and not remembering the other 16 weeks where he was the very definition of fungible   *waits for everyone to look up fungible*.   Standard scoring (Hell PPR would hardly be any different, he caught all of 2 passes last year) 1.5 1.1 6.5 12.4 5.1 0.9 0.4 4.6 10.7 4.9 1.3 10.7 4.9 1.3 10.4 7.4 5.3 19.6  If you were genius enough to start Blount in your week 16 Super Bowl after that 15 week heaping pile of inconsistency, hats off to you. I could see where some owners may have used him in a week 17 SB after his big game week 16, but it still doesnt change the fact that for the vast majority of 2013, Blount was exactly everything we expect from a NE RB these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,450 Posted October 15, 2014 I knew what fungible meant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites