Journalist consensus: Media leans left...

[posty 2,296]

Wow really? You don't say...

 

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/12/journalist-consensus-media-leans-left-179852.html

 

Top journalists from The New York Times, NBC News and CNN acknowledged Wednesday that, generally speaking, the national media has a liberal bias.

 

On a Playbook Breakfast panel, the Times' Peter Baker and Mark Leibovich, NBC's Kelly O'Donnell and CNN's Jake Tapper all said "yes" when asked if the news media leans left -- though all agreed it was a nuanced issue having more to do with journalists' life experience than with any particular agenda.

 

"Most of my colleagues, I have no idea what their politics are. ... But think about it: I live in northwest Washington, none of my neighbors are evangelical Christians, I don't know a lot of people in my kid's preschool who are pro-life," Leibovich said. "When you have conversations, at all the newspapers I've worked at, about politics -- it doesn't happen often -- but you see clues that there is absolutely a left-wing bias."

 

Tapper, the CNN host and former ABC News White House correspondent, said the bias was "much more complicated and complex" than "liberal" or "conservative."

 

"A certain type of person becomes a reporter, and generally speaking -- generally speaking, I'm not saying every reporter in the world -- the kind of person who is a reporter in Washington, D.C., or New York City has never worked a minimum-wage job outside of high school, has never experienced poverty, is not an evangelical Christian, like much of the country is," Tapper said. "There are a lot of experiences that the kinds of people who are reporters, editors, producers in Washington and New York City have not had."

 

"Most publications, you can get a sense of what the editors are thinking -- and I would put a lot more on the editors and the senior producers than on the day-to-day reporters," he went on to say. "But you don't see a lot of coverage of poverty, you don't see a lot of coverage of troops, you don't see a lot of coverage of faith. It's simplistic to say it's liberal or conservative; it's about experiences and lifestyle."

 

Baker, the Times' White House correspondent, adressed a different kind of bias: "The bigger bias is the bias toward conflict, the bias toward sensation, the bias toward the quick and easy and the simplistic. That's our bias, and that's what we have to fight every day."

[drobeski 3,061]

No way

[MDC 5,915]

Stunner

[BunnysBastatrds 1,933]

Get the fawk out of here.

[drobeski 3,061]

shocking

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

really

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Gotta love how they admit they are hacks..........but "nuanced" hacks.

 

Where have I heard that word before?

 

 

[drobeski 3,061]

Gotta love how they admit they are hacks..........but "nuanced" hacks.

 

Where have I heard that word before?

 

 

[IGotWorms 3,342]

Gotta love how they admit they are hacks..........but "nuanced" hacks.

 

Where have I heard that word before?

 

 

And again you fail to comprehend that few things in life are black and white. What a surprise

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Now I remember where I heard it.

[drobeski 3,061]

recliner, not everything is dictotumus

[MDC 5,915]

Big werdz sound funny!

[hoytdwow 202]

I'm curious what Rush Limbaugh and Breitfart think about this

[Mike Honcho 4,052]

I'm curious what Rush Limbaugh and Breitfart think about this

 

It said "Top Journalists", so I don't think they were qualified to give an answer.

[drobeski 3,061]

I'm curious what Rush Limbaugh and Breitfart think about this

they've been saying it and have been right all along only lemmings and complete morons would argue that the majority of the main stream media doesn't lean left.

which are you ?

[DankNuggs 305]

"The bigger bias is the bias toward conflict, the bias toward sensation, the bias toward the quick and easy and the simplistic. That's our bias, and that's what we have to fight every day."

 

 

The industry of reporters is that of highly educated, poorly paid people who obviously feel their importance is above their pay grade....

 

Coupled with the fact their the above quotes strategy ties nicely with democratic divide and conquer political strategy, and shiny object theorem, and created conflict extrapolations...

 

Mix that all up and what do you get?

 

 

 

 

 

it all makes sense.

[chroniciguana 13]

Been in the news business since 1977 when a 2,000 circulation weekly decided to risk $150 a week and offer me a reporting gig. Don't recall being asked about my politics during that job interview. Never came up. But I was asked if, for that $150 a week, I was willing to put in 60 hour weeks, pump out 20 stories per edition, live with a police radio next to my bed, be available 24 hours a day and, in my spare time, stock newspaper racks. I reckon I was a miserable failure when it came to advancing the lefty agenda. Poverty and sleep deprivation likely got in the way.

 

Four years later I was city editor at a 50,000 circ. daily. Don't recall swearing an oath to the liberal cause during that job interview either. Had about 30 impoverished, sleep deprived reporters, photographers, clerks and copy desk types working for me. Considering I was now down to just 55 hours a week, it's a wonder I never found time to ask any of them about their politics. Once again I was a miserable failure when it came to advancing the lefty agenda. Guess I should have put more effort into slanting all those sewer authority stories.

 

Posty, Americans don't get the majority of their news from your "national media." They get their news from a bunch of folks in that building down the street. Folks who don't have time for political agendas. Or, for that matter, eating, sleeping, family and friends. But they do have time to memorize the school board budget for you. Or get your street fixed. Or call the person in charge when you come running to them with a problem. And do it all while on deadline. Pretty much what you'd expect from a bunch of bleeding heart pinkos. Right Posty?

 

And, oh yeah ... thanks for sharing. Cool story, bro.

[Drizzay 648]

Maybe the right-leaning up and coming journalists should do something about this issue?

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Been in the news business since 1977 when a 2,000 circulation weekly decided to risk $150 a week and offer me a reporting gig. Don't recall being asked about my politics during that job interview. Never came up. But I was asked if, for that $150 a week, I was willing to put in 60 hour weeks, pump out 20 stories per edition, live with a police radio next to my bed, be available 24 hours a day and, in my spare time, stock newspaper racks. I reckon I was a miserable failure when it came to advancing the lefty agenda. Poverty and sleep deprivation likely got in the way.

 

Four years later I was city editor at a 50,000 circ. daily. Don't recall swearing an oath to the liberal cause during that job interview either. Had about 30 impoverished, sleep deprived reporters, photographers, clerks and copy desk types working for me. Considering I was now down to just 55 hours a week, it's a wonder I never found time to ask any of them about their politics. Once again I was a miserable failure when it came to advancing the lefty agenda. Guess I should have put more effort into slanting all those sewer authority stories.

 

Posty, Americans don't get the majority of their news from your "national media." They get their news from a bunch of folks in that building down the street. Folks who don't have time for political agendas. Or, for that matter, eating, sleeping, family and friends. But they do have time to memorize the school board budget for you. Or get your street fixed. Or call the person in charge when you come running to them with a problem. And do it all while on deadline. Pretty much what you'd expect from a bunch of bleeding heart pinkos. Right Posty?

 

And, oh yeah ... thanks for sharing. Cool story, bro.

 

 

Well, there ya go.

 

One guy in the bidness who says he is clueless about the political leanings of those he works with proves the media doesn't lean left.

[jerryskids 5,228]

Been in the news business since 1977 when a 2,000 circulation weekly decided to risk $150 a week and offer me a reporting gig. Don't recall being asked about my politics during that job interview. Never came up. But I was asked if, for that $150 a week, I was willing to put in 60 hour weeks, pump out 20 stories per edition, live with a police radio next to my bed, be available 24 hours a day and, in my spare time, stock newspaper racks. I reckon I was a miserable failure when it came to advancing the lefty agenda. Poverty and sleep deprivation likely got in the way.

 

Four years later I was city editor at a 50,000 circ. daily. Don't recall swearing an oath to the liberal cause during that job interview either. Had about 30 impoverished, sleep deprived reporters, photographers, clerks and copy desk types working for me. Considering I was now down to just 55 hours a week, it's a wonder I never found time to ask any of them about their politics. Once again I was a miserable failure when it came to advancing the lefty agenda. Guess I should have put more effort into slanting all those sewer authority stories.

 

Posty, Americans don't get the majority of their news from your "national media." They get their news from a bunch of folks in that building down the street. Folks who don't have time for political agendas. Or, for that matter, eating, sleeping, family and friends. But they do have time to memorize the school board budget for you. Or get your street fixed. Or call the person in charge when you come running to them with a problem. And do it all while on deadline. Pretty much what you'd expect from a bunch of bleeding heart pinkos. Right Posty?

 

And, oh yeah ... thanks for sharing. Cool story, bro.

Why is it Posty's fault that a bunch of national media folks think that their industry leans left? Seems like your anger is misplaced.

 

Also since we are sharing anecdotal evidence, my most liberal friend on FB is a reporter for the AZ Republic, and it isn't close. He is also the most prolific poster. I suppose that such postings can be considered a part of his job in a way, but he sure seems to have a lot of free time.

[MDC 5,915]

 

 

Well, there ya go.

 

One guy in the bidness who says he is clueless about the political leanings of those he works with proves the media doesn't lean left.

He is this far the only person here with any firsthand experience of the actual news media, among a bunch of people who are entirely parroting what they've read from right wing editorials. So he may not know much but I'd venture to guess you know even less.

[drobeski 3,061]

He is this far the only person here with any firsthand experience of the actual news media, among a bunch of people who are entirely parroting what they've read from right wing editorials. So he may not know much but I'd venture to guess you know even less.

are you saying you've worked in the news medua ? and if so, you think that doesn't strengthen the argument of those claiming bias ? :confused:

the media is full if twinkle toe moonbats like you ya dummy

[Recliner Pilot 61]

He is this far the only person here with any firsthand experience of the actual news media, among a bunch of people who are entirely parroting what they've read from right wing editorials. So he may not know much but I'd venture to guess you know even less.

Politico isn't right wing, Dumbass.

 

And by their own admission, neither is ABC, CNN, and the NYTs.........ya know, those quoted in the article.

 

But feel free to take the easy way out............ignore tge facts in the OP and cry about some mythical conspiracy from a right wing source.

[MDC 5,915]

Politico isn't right wing, Dumbass.

 

And by their own admission, neither is ABC, CNN, and the NYTs.........ya know, those quoted in the article.

 

But feel free to take the easy way out............ignore tge facts in the OP and cry about some mythical conspiracy from a right wing source.

Too easy!

 

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[IGotWorms 3,342]

are you saying you've worked in the news medua ? and if so, you think that doesn't strengthen the argument of those claiming bias ? :confused:

the media is full if twinkle toe moonbats like you ya dummy

Was this in English?

[Mike Honcho 4,052]

Was this in English?

 

It is if you're from Bahstin.

[chroniciguana 13]

Why is it Posty's fault that a bunch of national media folks think that their industry leans left? Seems like your anger is misplaced.

 

Also since we are sharing anecdotal evidence, my most liberal friend on FB is a reporter for the AZ Republic, and it isn't close. He is also the most prolific poster. I suppose that such postings can be considered a part of his job in a way, but he sure seems to have a lot of free time.

Nope, not Posty's fault. I can't speak to what's going on at the AR, or why your friend seems to have so much free time when newspapers everywhere are cutting staff and budgets, but today's publishers are so drugged out on social media that some set daily Twitter and Facebook quotas for their newsrooms. Circulation and readership no longer matter. It's all about Facebook likes and Twitter followers. So yeah, could be a big part of his job.

 

Ask your liberal AR friend if he ever lets his political views creep into his copy. He'll tell you absolutely not, that he plays everything right down the middle. Except he doesn't. Bias is a sneaky critter. At a paper like Washington Times, for instance, a conservative politician might "decline" comment. But the liberal guy in the same piece "refuses" to comment. Same thing. But it doesn't quite read the same. Go across town to the more liberal Post, and the game is played in reverse. And in a hundred different ways. The reporter doesn't know he's doing it. And most readers never catch it. That's the editor's job. Except the good ones, the experienced ones trained to deal with this stuff, the folks who were making the most money, they're gone. Downsized. Today, Beaver Cleaver is running the copy desk. And it shows.

 

But yes, those bright lights who cover the national beat and trample each other to get in front of those cable TV cameras, are probably right. When you pack a newsroom with a bunch college kids who most likely didn't major in engineering or finance, odds are you're going to find a fair share of liberals among those philosophy and English Lit degrees. Shocking, eh? But if their copy lists too far to the left (or in either direction), it's likely their career path will soon take a swing in the pizza delivery direction.

 

And as far as not knowing their politics, as long as those politics didn't show up in their stuff, I didn't care about their politics. I did have an avowed socialist working for me. He was 68-years-old and he wrote obits. Not liberal obits. Not conservative obits. Just obits. And, to the best of my knowledge, everyone he wrote about really was dead. Which was pretty much all I or anyone else cared about. And none of his subjects ever complained.

[IGotWorms 3,342]

A big part of it is probably that, as a journalist, you are probably exposed to a much wider variety of lifestyles, viewpoints, and so forth. Conservatives are typically pretty narrow-minded in their worldview (often proudly so), which really doesn't mix with having personally observed a wide cross-section of human existence.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

A big part of it is probably that, as a journalist, you are probably exposed to a much wider variety of lifestyles, viewpoints, and so forth. Conservatives are typically pretty narrow-minded in their worldview (often proudly so), which really doesn't mix with having personally observed a wide cross-section of human existence.

WTF do you use as a source for this statement?

[MDC 5,915]

A big part of it is probably that, as a journalist, you are probably exposed to a much wider variety of lifestyles, viewpoints, and so forth. Conservatives are typically pretty narrow-minded in their worldview (often proudly so), which really doesn't mix with having personally observed a wide cross-section of human existence.

Does poker night at Jose's count as a cultural experience?

[IGotWorms 3,342]

WTF do you use as a source for this statement?

Life.

 

We can try a dictionary definition too if you'd like:

 

noun: conservative; plural noun: conservatives

1. a person who is averse to change and holds to traditional values and attitudes, typically in relation to politics.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

Life.

 

 

So you take your life and use that to paint all conservatives the same.

 

Good to know there was some substantial insight and data to back up your position.

[chroniciguana 13]

A big part of it is probably that, as a journalist, you are probably exposed to a much wider variety of lifestyles, viewpoints, and so forth. Conservatives are typically pretty narrow-minded in their worldview (often proudly so), which really doesn't mix with having personally observed a wide cross-section of human existence.

When you travel out to the fringes where the trains don't run, you find that liberals are just as narrow minded as conservatives. If you're a moderate liberal, a truly radical liberal would likely share many of your beliefs and, as a result, would naturally seem to be more open minded. From your perspective. A radical conservative, on the other hand, would likely share none of your beliefs and would naturally seem to be more closed minded. Again, from your perspective. Flip it around, and you'd probably get the same result.

 

I've written extensively on the Ku Klux Klan. I've attended countless rallies, had my phones tapped by the FBI and a cross burned on my lawn. These folks pretty much define narrow minded. But that doesn't mean you don't try to understand what makes them tick or why they believe what they sincerely do believe. These earthlings share this planet with us, and they think you're pretty narrow minded because you refuse to see eye-to-eye with them on the whole lynching thing. So it really does kind of depend on where you're standing.

[jerryskids 5,228]

When you travel out to the fringes where the trains don't run, you find that liberals are just as narrow minded as conservatives. If you're a moderate liberal, a truly radical liberal would likely share many of your beliefs and, as a result, would naturally seem to be more open minded. From your perspective. A radical conservative, on the other hand, would likely share none of your beliefs and would naturally seem to be more closed minded. Again, from your perspective. Flip it around, and you'd probably get the same result.

 

I've written extensively on the Ku Klux Klan. I've attended countless rallies, had my phones tapped by the FBI and a cross burned on my lawn. These folks pretty much define narrow minded. But that doesn't mean you don't try to understand what makes them tick or why they believe what they sincerely do believe. These earthlings share this planet with us, and they think you're pretty narrow minded because you refuse to see eye-to-eye with them on the whole lynching thing. So it really does kind of depend on where you're standing.

Sounds like you've got some interesting stories to share with us. Please do.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

I really think this is mainly a case of "If we say some sh!t often enough and long enough, people will believe it."

[Reality 2,710]

A big part of it is probably that, as a journalist, you are probably exposed to a much wider variety of lifestyles, viewpoints, and so forth. Conservatives are typically pretty narrow-minded in their worldview (often proudly so), which really doesn't mix with having personally observed a wide cross-section of human existence.

Ironic, you are every bit as close minded as you think the other side is. Embarrassingly so. I am actually embarrassed for you. You prove on a daily basis how ignorant you truly are around here.

[wiffleball 4,654]

So does my diick!

[Mike Honcho 4,052]

So you take your life and use that to paint all conservatives the same.

 

Good to know there was some substantial insight and data to back up your position.

 

It's nothing like taking 6 journalists and what they say based on there experiences, with no substantial insight and data and using that to paint the entire media.

[Recliner Pilot 61]

 

It's nothing like taking 6 journalists and what they say based on there experiences, with no substantial insight and data and using that to paint the entire media.

 

 

6?

 

Keep reading.

 

http://www.mrc.org/media-bias-101/journalists-admitting-liberal-bias-part-one

 

 

 

 

Since 1964 surveys of journalists show they vote democrat between 80%-90% in each Presidential election.

 

http://archive.mrc.org/biasbasics/biasbasics3.asp

 

 

 

But you hang your hat on what some dipshit pretent lawyer says about his personal exprience.

 

 

ETA: What about political donations by the media..........looks like the percentage going to Dems is right in line with their voting.

 

Obama, Democrats got 88 percent of 2008 contributions by TV network execs, writers, reporters

 

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/08/28/obama-democrats-got-88-percent-of-2008-contributions-by-tv-network-execs-writers-reporters/#ixzz2o8lQXvwL

 

 

Feel free to bring your own "data", Honcho.