vrabinec 19 Posted July 26, 2014 What is with all these guys who want to trade you two fair to decent players for your stud? I've got a guy sending me charts about player values and how the two he's offering add up to more than my one guy. Who cares? I keep telling him that I don't need more depth and the improvement in the two he's offering won't outweigh the loss of the stud, but he keeps at it. How come nobody ever offers up a stud in return for two of your mid-range guys? It's always Vereen and Tate for D. Thomas. Or Mathews and Harvin for Lacy. Patterson and Bush for Johnson. WTF? I could see if it's mid-season, and you lost a bunch of depth and have nowhere to turn, but preseason? Anybody else get bombarded with these trade offers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
$epphori$ 118 Posted July 26, 2014 because most people suck at trading...sell high buy low. And never fall in love with any of ur players Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphster 274 Posted July 26, 2014 Far worse is the guy who tries to 'win' every trade or the guy who constantly low balls and then acts like you are obtuse when you reject. Sorry I didn't want to trade Dez Bryant for Riley Cooper and Frank Gore buddy! I wish more people understood the best trades work for both teams. Most of the people I've come across who truly suck at trading are in the 'Masters' Bronze and Silver leagues MFF runs on MFL. The worst. I won't join another 'masters' fantasy football league again. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted July 26, 2014 Trading is hard if fantasy cuz no one wants to give up the better player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted July 26, 2014 Far worse is the guy who tries to 'win' every trade or the guy who constantly low balls and then acts like you are obtuse when you reject. Sorry I didn't want to trade Dez Bryant for Riley Cooper and Frank Gore buddy! I wish more people understood the best trades work for both teams. Most of the people I've come across who truly suck at trading are in the 'Masters' Bronze and Silver leagues MFF runs on MFL. The worst. I won't join another 'masters' fantasy football league again. Nobody wants my Riley Cooper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flgatorguy87 160 Posted July 26, 2014 I usually have to "lose" a trade to get it to actually happen, which means I need to have done loads of research and feel very confident about the players I have targeted. I will usually find a team with significant needs and then scout their players hard. Find weak points and strong points in their schedule etc., so that I can maximize my time for when to start pushing hard for a trade. I also always text message my trade talks. I'm not sure why but the frequency of successful trades has significantly improved since I've started doing this. Obviously we are in a league with friends so it isn't always possible, but I've also had success with emailing general trade talks before making an offer. I start with something like this in my leagues where I don't know anyone. "I'm really interested in Lacy and it looks like you need some WR help. Are you interested in making something work for both of us?" If I get the smallest whiff of interest in a deal then I really start hammering on it. I will not trade with people who constantly throw out low ball trade offers every single week. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted July 26, 2014 What is with all these guys who want to trade you two fair to decent players for your stud? I've got a guy sending me charts about player values and how the two he's offering add up to more than my one guy. Who cares? I keep telling him that I don't need more depth and the improvement in the two he's offering won't outweigh the loss of the stud, but he keeps at it. How come nobody ever offers up a stud in return for two of your mid-range guys? It's always Vereen and Tate for D. Thomas. Or Mathews and Harvin for Lacy. Patterson and Bush for Johnson. WTF? I could see if it's mid-season, and you lost a bunch of depth and have nowhere to turn, but preseason? Anybody else get bombarded with these trade offers? Why wants the problem with it . I always make a few of them offers . If the other person goes for the deal their problem not mine . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted July 26, 2014 Why wants the problem with it . I always make a few of them offers . If the other person goes for the deal their problem not mine . It's insulting, and makes people assume you're either (1) and idiot, (2) an @sshole, or (3) both. Usually number 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted July 26, 2014 How's this one... got offered Carson Palmer for Matt Ryan. Yeah, let me jump all over that before he changes his mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted July 26, 2014 Not my problem . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted July 26, 2014 Not my problem . #3. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AnaheimRams 28 Posted July 26, 2014 Doesn't matter anyway... the league will just downvote the trade. (voting on trades is focking stupid). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphster 274 Posted July 26, 2014 I always make a few of them offers . If the other person goes for the deal their problem not mine . How very christian of you weepaws. I'm sure Jesus thinks highly of people who possess superior morals such as yourself. For the record, I am sorry I ever encouraged you to post in these forums. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted July 27, 2014 How very christian of you weepaws. I'm sure Jesus thinks highly of people who possess superior morals such as yourself. For the record, I am sorry I ever encouraged you to post in these forums. Lol. You encouraged the weepaws? Oh man. I have him blocked. Only person here who i have blocked. He makes my eye twitch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uwmalcolm 73 Posted July 27, 2014 How very christian of you weepaws. I'm sure Jesus thinks highly of people who possess superior morals such as yourself. For the record, I am sorry I ever encouraged you to post in these forums. This comment made my day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted July 27, 2014 How very christian of you weepaws. I'm sure Jesus thinks highly of people who possess superior morals such as yourself. For the record, I am sorry I ever encouraged you to post in these forums. Will thats why i am a christian . I am not perfect i am just like you and everyone else , a sinner saved by grace, from GOD who is perfect . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted July 27, 2014 It's insulting, and makes people assume you're either (1) and idiot, (2) an @sshole, or (3) both. Usually number 3. LOL i guess i am lucky not to have anyone so sensitive like in the leagues i'm in . Thank you Jesus . Amen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted July 27, 2014 Doesn't matter anyway... the league will just downvote the trade. (voting on trades is focking stupid). Will never happens because who would say yes to it . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted July 27, 2014 Lol. You encouraged the weepaws? Oh man. I have him blocked. Only person here who i have blocked. He makes my eye twitch. Oh my soul thank you Jesus . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted July 27, 2014 LOL wow you guys are very sensitive . My encouragement comes from Father God . I am here posting because i enjoy ff . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted July 27, 2014 LOL i guess i am lucky not to have anyone so sensitive like in the leagues i'm in . Thank you Jesus . Amen It doesn't take much for someone to fall into one of those categories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
$epphori$ 118 Posted July 27, 2014 How very christian of you weepaws. I'm sure Jesus thinks highly of people who possess superior morals such as yourself. For the record, I am sorry I ever encouraged you to post in these forums. Jesus Christ built my hotrod 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Quickolas1 80 Posted July 27, 2014 Will thats why i am a christian . I am not perfect..a sinner saved by grace, from GOD who is perfect... Oh my soul thank you Jesus. Well said. "Its all about meeeeeeee." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
$epphori$ 118 Posted July 27, 2014 my fav is when guys say aww I cant trade him, I've had him since rookie season...lol I'm like dude your not married to the guy. Get over it. The player could care less if he is on ur FF team. I have a few dumb ass' like this in our league. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 697 Posted July 28, 2014 I hate the guy that looks at where players were drafted in analyzing trades. "I can't trade you my second round pick for your 4th and 5th rounders" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted July 29, 2014 I hate the guy that looks at where players were drafted in analyzing trades. "I can't trade you my second round pick for your 4th and 5th rounders" Well it makes sense in the early part of the year. Middle to end it shouldnt matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralphster 274 Posted July 29, 2014 Well it makes sense in the early part of the year. Middle to end it shouldnt matter. I don't agree. When you drafted them matters right up until maybe week 2 results. After that its time to cut bait and move on targets you missed in the draft. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted July 29, 2014 I don't agree. When you drafted them matters right up until maybe week 2 results. After that its time to cut bait and move on targets you missed in the draft. Youre right. As soon as i reread it i realized that half way is waaaay too late to hold onto draft position. I was too lazy to correct myself and wanted to see who the first person to challenge would be. Nothing escapes the ralphster! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 917 Posted July 29, 2014 To use an analogy, if you trade away $10 and get $10 back, you are cool if it happens, and cool if it doesn't. It's when you are giving away $5 and getting back $10 that you'll be pissed if the trade doesn't go through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,172 Posted July 29, 2014 some guys like to respond to trade offers by CCing other league managers..... bush 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
$epphori$ 118 Posted July 29, 2014 I don't agree. When you drafted them matters right up until maybe week 2 results. After that its time to cut bait and move on targets you missed in the draft. This Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
$epphori$ 118 Posted July 29, 2014 2 years ago I came back into a league I started back in 1996. I had Forte. Dez, Gronk, Turner as my 4 keepers...Fricking gross I had to trade my most valuable asset Dez cuz he was so inconsistent... I traded him for Roddy White and Dennis Pitta I then traded Gronk Forte and to the Brady owner for Demarious Thomas (2nd year in NFL) and McCoy who was on an awful Eagles team. Last year I tarded Kapernick and Crabtree and my first round pick for Marshall and Luck Then I just traded luck this offseason to get gronk back. Now in my 3rd year back my keepers are McCoy (ADP 1.1 - 1.2) Demarious (ADP 1.10) Marshall (ADP 2.3) Gronk (ADP 3.2 ) I have been lost superbowl two years in a row but netted 2nd place cash of $500 I will win this year barring injury...stay tuned Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnasty 5 Posted July 29, 2014 If I get lowballed, I'll ALWAYS send them a ridiculous counteroffer back. Think Gostkowski for Forte type of counter. I usually get some sort of response like I'm an idiot (see rholio's comment above), but it gets them off my back or it opens up the lines of communication to discuss what could realistically be in the cards. Just my .02 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted July 29, 2014 I always lowball a trade but not by much. Sometimes I have to trade away good players to get a hole in my line up filled Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 339 Posted July 29, 2014 If I get lowballed, I'll ALWAYS send them a ridiculous counteroffer back. Think Gostkowski for Forte type of counter. I usually get some sort of response like I'm an idiot (see rholio's comment above), but it gets them off my back or it opens up the lines of communication to discuss what could realistically be in the cards. Just my .02 I countered the offer I mentioned (Palmer for Ryan) with Ryan for Rodgers and his 1st round pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites