Ted Wells Presents DeflateGate Report To NFL, Patriots; No Discipline Decided Yet

[Mike Honcho 5,439]

 

illegal well sure, technically. Again. DUI is illegal, ever done that? yeah, thought so.

 

Get off your focking soapbox already.

 

No, I actually have never driven drunk. Not once, ever. As if that has anything to do with gaining an advantage on the baseball field.

 

But it's funny the stretches you are going for to RATIONALIZE it was okay to use ILLEGAL DRUGS to CHEAT at baseball. It's pathetic the excuses you come up with to make it all right to cheat. Sorry Ed, one does not need to be on a soapbox to know the difference between right and wrong.

[edjr 6,899]

Here's what he should have said immediately. "I put incredible pressure on our equipment team to make sure everything is just the way I want it. In this instance, they went too far and that's on me. The rules are there for a reason and the balls were obviously lower than league rules permit. I apologize and never meant to challenge the integrity of the league and its rules."

 

Done. He/the Pats would have been fined. No need for him to deny access to his texts and emails. No need for their ridiculous press conference where they all pretended to be SO insulted. And no need for this to have drug on for four months.

 

The cover up is always worse than the crime. WHen you're busted, you're just wired to lie. Everyone does it.

 

You are 100% correct.

 

Now see, if you were having this argument with RP, you could never err to the side of it's the worst thing ever.

[edjr 6,899]

 

No, I actually have never driven drunk. Not once, ever. As if that has anything to do with gaining an advantage on the baseball field.

 

 

Oh, you're the one!

[Djgb13 2,339]

Here's what he should have said immediately. "I put incredible pressure on our equipment team to make sure everything is just the way I want it. In this instance, they went too far and that's on me. The rules are there for a reason and the balls were obviously lower than league rules permit. I apologize and never meant to challenge the integrity of the league and its rules."

 

Done. He/the Pats would have been fined. No need for him to deny access to his texts and emails. No need for their ridiculous press conference where they all pretended to be SO insulted. And no need for this to have drug on for four months.

Seems legit to me.

[Mike Honcho 5,439]

 

Oh, you're the one!

 

Nope, I bet most people are like me...this is you again RATIONALIZING..."everyone drinks and drives, so it was okay that I've done it too."

[RLLD 4,275]

Here's what he should have said immediately. "I put incredible pressure on our equipment team to make sure everything is just the way I want it. In this instance, they went too far and that's on me. The rules are there for a reason and the balls were obviously lower than league rules permit. I apologize and never meant to challenge the integrity of the league and its rules."

 

Done. He/the Pats would have been fined. No need for him to deny access to his texts and emails. No need for their ridiculous press conference where they all pretended to be SO insulted. And no need for this to have drug on for four months.

 

Correct. Keep in mind this approach then implicitly suggests accountability which is considered something to avoid at all costs in our culture. Further, given the perception of the Patriots it makes perfect sense also that his first instinct is to deny and point at others, that is something of a Patriots-thing.

 

In the end he played himself perfectly, showed the true nature of his filthy character that we already knew and other NFL players have been noting as well. I doubt he was always this way, but likely was susceptible to it, and the Patriots led him the rest of the way.

[edjr 6,899]

 

Nope, I bet most people are like me...this is you again RATIONALIZING..."everyone drinks and drives, so it was okay that I've done it too."

 

I'm a realist not a judgist.

[Mike Honcho 5,439]

 

I'm a realist not a judgist.

 

You are an "excusist", a realist would realize that cheating is wrong.

[RLLD 4,275]

Does that then make Brady a "cheatist"?

[NewbieJr 541]

 

No, I actually have never driven drunk. Not once, ever. As if that has anything to do with gaining an advantage on the baseball field.

 

But it's funny the stretches you are going for to RATIONALIZE it was okay to use ILLEGAL DRUGS to CHEAT at baseball. It's pathetic the excuses you come up with to make it all right to cheat. Sorry Ed, one does not need to be on a soapbox to know the difference between right and wrong.

I think the perception of cheating in general is a little different in the New England area

[Djgb13 2,339]

Anyone else just tired of the talk about it? I mean it's really an extremely small thing and will get handled. No one was talking about the falcons pumping noise into the stadium for this long. I guess it does have something to do with no punishment has been decided but still. It's really old news guys.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

The cover up is always worse than the crime. WHen you're busted, you're just wired to lie. Everyone does it.

 

You are 100% correct.

 

Now see, if you were having this argument with RP, you could never err to the side of it's the worst thing ever.

All it's going to take is one guy in sports to actually realize he was busted and man-up, and it might start a trend. But I'm still waiting.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

 

 

In the end he played himself perfectly, showed the true nature of his filthy character that we already knew and other NFL players have been noting as well. I doubt he was always this way, but likely was susceptible to it, and the Patriots led him the rest of the way.

This. The biggest loser here is Brady. Regardless of what the suspension ends up being. The hit to his legacy is huge. Not just on the field, but as a person. I hated Brady the QB. But always thought he seemed like a decent, albeit effeminate, fella. Now I think he's a douche.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

All it's going to take is one guy in sports to actually realize he was busted and man-up, and it might start a trend. But I'm still waiting.

 

Andy Pettite.

[DankNuggs 305]

I was going to post a laughing smilie but thought maybe a sad faced smilie would be better. It's incredible that only Patriot fans can't see the obvious.

i see no smilies

[NewbieJr 541]

Andy Pettite.

Yes, he did admit it. After that report came out that named him and a bunch of others. I used him as an example last week. He's handled cheating accusations better than anyone else I can think of. And he's more well-respected than any of the other cheaters. Seems like everyone still love Andy Pettite

[NewbieJr 541]

i see no smilies

 

Take your pick

[DankNuggs 305]

Yes, he did admit it. After that report came out that named him and a bunch of others. I used him as an example last week. He's handled cheating accusations better than anyone else I can think of. And he's more well-respected than any of the other cheaters. Seems like everyone still love Andy Pettite

To be fair, people loved Pettite before then as well...

[DankNuggs 305]

 

Take your pick

[DankNuggs 305]

 

Correct. Keep in mind this approach then implicitly suggests accountability which is considered something to avoid at all costs in our culture. Further, given the perception of the Patriots it makes perfect sense also that his first instinct is to deny and point at others, that is something of a Patriots-thing.

 

In the end he played himself perfectly, showed the true nature of his filthy character that we already knew and other NFL players have been noting as well. I doubt he was always this way, but likely was susceptible to it, and the Patriots led him the rest of the way.

Are the Patriots worse than hyper inflation?

[RLLD 4,275]

Are the Patriots worse than hyper inflation?

 

Awww, someones butthurt.....

[NewbieJr 541]

To be fair, people loved Pettite before then as well...

Right. That's my point. Ryan Braun was widely liked, league wide. Then he got caught the first time and lied through his teeth. And through people under the bus in the process. When he got caught a second time, he became a joke. Now, only Brewers fans like the guy. No one learned a thing from Pettite.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Are the Patriots worse than hyper inflation?

Going for the jugular!

[Mungwater 601]

Right. That's my point. Ryan Braun was widely liked, league wide. Then he got caught the first time and lied through his teeth. And through people under the bus in the process. When he got caught a second time, he became a joke. Now, only Brewers fans like the guy. No one learned a thing from Pettite.

Braun is one of the biggest dousches in MLB, I thought even before the steroids. He wasn't beloved league wide

[Cruzer 1,996]

Brady suspended 4 games, team loses 2 picks, NE fined $1m.

[Eaglesin14 12]

Pats lose 1st rounder.

 

Brady gone 4 games.

[Strike 6,023]

Pats lose 1st rounder.

 

Brady gone 4 games.

 

1st in 2016 and a 4th in 2017, plus $1 million fine for the team. Wow.

[Djgb13 2,339]

 

1st in 2016 and a 4th in 2017, plus $1 million fine for the team. Wow.

Let the appeal begin

[Reality 3,121]

I'm just here for the Kraft apology.

[Cloaca du jour 2,157]

Should happen

 

Brady 6 games...4 for cheating...2 for stonewalling investigation

Kraft, 1 year away from team

Belicheat, 1 year suspended. Sean Payton precedent, you're the boss your responsible.

2 equipment guys..banned forever.

[Flyfreak 84]

fock ted wells and super fock that report

[Mungwater 601]

No doubt the past played into it, seems quite a bit for something with no real evidence

[Djgb13 2,339]

No doubt the past played into it, seems quite a bit for something with no real evidence

I read where they were saying it was due to past transgressions that they penalized them so much

[Reality 3,121]

Culture of cheating.

[Flyfreak 84]

Culture of cheating.

well, in a pc correct society we should be tolerant of cheaters and others who might be different than us

[Franknbeans 46]

Let the appeal begin

 

Kraft already said they will not appeal whatever the league decides last week. The question is, was that a lie, too?

[Flyfreak 84]

 

Kraft already said they will not appeal whatever the league decides last week. The question is, was that a lie, too?

that better be a lie, cause that was a stupid ass penalty

[Mungwater 601]

 

Kraft already said they will not appeal whatever the league decides last week. The question is, was that a lie, too?

Kraft may not, but Brady sure as hell will.

[Franknbeans 46]

no, it wasn't. tip of the iceberg. They chose not to give the stuff over because this is what they do.

 

Brady already has appealed.

[Bishop82 61]