tanatastic 2,062 Posted March 25, 2016 So i saw this on thurs at the first showing. It wasnt terrible but it just wasnt great. They did too much, shoehorned in like 3 too many plots and just didnt make the whole thing come together like it should. Affleck was great as Batman, hes probably the high point of the movie. All the characters were good pretty much even if Luthor isnt your cuppa tea. 1 too many dream/vision sequences, unnecessary ending, tplot holes, conveniences, just overall a bit of a mess. Someone on reddit said it best, its like if you played 3 great songs at the same time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,310 Posted March 25, 2016 Here's hoping this is the ed of the stupid idea that comic book movies are supposed to be grim, joyless and for adults. I thought the Dark Knight trilogy was pretty bad and MoS was even worse. Nolan and Snyder are both awful storytellers. I'm really enjoying watching the film get slagged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted March 25, 2016 Going to see it tonight. First thoughts are why can't DC seem to make a quality movie like Marvel has? They've got the content and tons of it. Hell I wouldn't mind if they made this a triology but do something to even make it a legit competition between marvel and DC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 599 Posted March 26, 2016 I have my fingers crossed for suicide squad. Trying not to get overly optimistic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted March 26, 2016 Saw it last night. Wasn't a bad movie. What was pissing me off is the fact that they want to change all the other super hero's race. Aquaman is no longer a blonde haired guy but some dark haired, Hawaiian guy with tattoos. The flash looks Asian. Wonder Woman doesn't have black hair and blue eyes but is Israeli. Changing race for the sake of "diversity" just pisses me off. What's next? The Green Lantern is going to be from India and is a girl? Her name is Haley but they call her Hal to shorten it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,310 Posted March 26, 2016 The Green Lantern after Hal Jordan was actually black. And also not real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,290 Posted March 26, 2016 Where did Action Jackson go? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,310 Posted March 26, 2016 He went to heaven in Rocky IV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted March 26, 2016 The Green Lantern after Hal Jordan was actually black. And also not real. I know that and that is ok. But just for the sake of "let's spice it up and change their race and why not gender?" You don't see marvel pulling that sh1t and they are crushing it at the box office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted March 26, 2016 I know that and that is ok. But just for the sake of "let's spice it up and change their race and why not gender?" You don't see marvel pulling that sh1t and they are crushing it at the box office.I'm gonna say that's the only time Iv even heard this gripe about aquaman and Wonder Woman who fans universally love the casting choice. Seriously who whines about a Hawaiian and an Israeli? Gal Gadot is almost a perfect fit for the role and was one of the best parts of the movie. Israeli?! Momoa as aquaman is way more bad azz than some phaggy blonde dbag. You may be the first person on the Internet to make that gripe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted March 26, 2016 I'm gonna say that's the only time Iv even heard this gripe about aquaman and Wonder Woman who fans universally love the casting choice. Seriously who whines about a Hawaiian and an Israeli? Gal Gadot is almost a perfect fit for the role and was one of the best parts of the movie. Israeli?! Momoa as aquaman is way more bad azz than some phaggy blonde dbag. You may be the first person on the Internet to make that gripe. No I'm not. I've seen others gripe about it too. I just hate how people get pissed because there's white cast members in Gods of Egypt yet no one bats an eye when someone who's white is changed to a different race. You don't see Marvel making Deadpool black, Black Widow Israeli, the Hulk Asian, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted March 26, 2016 No I'm not. I've seen others gripe about it too. I just hate how people get pissed because there's white cast members in Gods of Egypt yet no one bats an eye when someone who's white is changed to a different race. You don't see Marvel making Deadpool black, Black Widow Israeli, the Hulk Asian, etc.Your reaching. If Wonder Woman was black I would understand. But she isn't, she fits the character fine. There is just zero precedent for your gripes since the races are not drastically changed enough to cause a double take. Like I said, Gadot is a perfect WW and Momoa is great as aquaman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,608 Posted March 26, 2016 I have trouble seeing anyone but Vinnie Chase as Aquaman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted March 26, 2016 I have trouble seeing anyone but Vinnie Chase as Aquaman.Ha right? Momoa is kind of like a much buffer vinnie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 362 Posted March 26, 2016 Check out Sadfleck  Just watched that...I wouldn't normally feel sympathy toward him but it totally looks like he needs it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,290 Posted March 26, 2016 It has happened with a lot of characters. I mean, a black Santa Claus is just as silly as a White Jesus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted March 26, 2016 Your reaching. If Wonder Woman was black I would understand. But she isn't, she fits the character fine. There is just zero precedent for your gripes since the races are not drastically changed enough to cause a double take. Like I said, Gadot is a perfect WW and Momoa is great as aquaman. Like I said the Wonder Woman I was fine with. It's the others that piss me off. It's not reaching when you expect to see a blonde haired white guy playing aquaman only to see a dark skinned, dark haired Hawaiian with tattoos. If that was the end of it fine. But the Flash? Really? He is straight up Asian looking and that is over the top. There's no "reaching" to it. It's just plain out stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southcarolina 166 Posted March 26, 2016 Not Asian, not even a little bit. Ezra Miller is of Ashkenazi Jewish (father) and German-Dutch (mother) ancestry; Â Â Â Straight outta IMDB. People prolly oughta google before they say things they dont know. Just my opinion, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted March 26, 2016 Not Asian, not even a little bit. Ezra Miller is of Ashkenazi Jewish (father) and German-Dutch (mother) ancestry; Â Â Â Straight outta IMDB. People prolly oughta google before they say things they dont know. Just my opinion, though. He's not but he straight up looks Asian. Especially in the movie. I could care less what his heritage is. He looks Asian especially in the movie. They are shooting for a focking Captain Planet crew with the DC super heroes. http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/theperksofbeingawallflower/images/f/fa/Ezra_Miller.png/revision/latest?cb=20120604221305 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted March 26, 2016 Like I said the Wonder Woman I was fine with. It's the others that piss me off. It's not reaching when you expect to see a blonde haired white guy playing aquaman only to see a dark skinned, dark haired Hawaiian with tattoos. If that was the end of it fine. But the Flash? Really? He is straight up Asian looking and that is over the top. There's no "reaching" to it. It's just plain out stupid.It's reaching because Aquaman is not some iconic character defined by his looks. Momoa is a better aquaman than aquaman himself. Also as said, Ezra Miller is not Asian, he's white, he's just a normal looking dude, totally fair game to play flash, another character not defined by his looks. Now if superman was black or batman was Chinese, ok let's get together and post about it. That would be strange. These castings are however, not. The fans are the first to call out race when casting decisions are made. I'm telling you I have seen zero gripes or even mentions of any of those characters come up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted March 26, 2016 It's reaching because Aquaman is not some iconic character defined by his looks. Momoa is a better aquaman than aquaman himself. Also as said, Ezra Miller is not Asian, he's white, he's just a normal looking dude, totally fair game to play flash, another character not defined by his looks. Now if superman was black or batman was Chinese, ok let's get together and post about it. That would be strange. These castings are however, not. That's your opinion and that's fine. It also doesn't matter. Just like my opinion doesn't matter. But the fact that "he isn't defined by his looks" is a retarded comment. Aquaman IS defined by his blonde hair in his orange suit. There is NO getting around that. The flash has a suit on. Fine his face is covered. But they aren't going for ANY accuracy to these at all. Did marvel go after accuracy for Captain America? What about Iron Man? Thor? The Hulk? Black Widow. To be sure they changed her looks and skin color right? No? They didn't? You mean they kept the accuracy of the comic books AND made dam good movies? You don't say?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,290 Posted March 26, 2016 Why can't Aquaman be black? Are you saying black people cant swim? Well, white people cant live under the sea either. Now do you see how silly it is now to worry about this stuff? Morgan Freeman played a guy named "Red" in Shawshank, because the charachter in the book was an Irish guy with red hair . Any complaints about that performance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted March 26, 2016 Why can't Aquaman be black? Are you saying black people cant swim? Well, white people cant live under the sea either. Now do you see how silly it is now to worry about this stuff? Morgan Freeman played a guy named "Red" in Shawshank, because the charachter in the book was an Irish guy with red hair . Any complaints about that performance? Sure I have complaints. Doesn't mean I'm not gonna watch it. I'm just pissed they all of a sudden want to change iconic characters to something completely different. Do you have complaints about a white guy playing Michael Jackson in his later years when his color was white? What about white guys playing in Gods of Egypt? It's a double standard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rholio 340 Posted March 26, 2016 No I'm not. I've seen others gripe about it too. I just hate how people get pissed because there's white cast members in Gods of Egypt yet no one bats an eye when someone who's white is changed to a different race. You don't see Marvel making Deadpool black, Black Widow Israeli, the Hulk Asian, etc. You might want to check out Marvel comics. Captain America is now black, Thor is a girl, Ms. Marvel is middle-eastern, Spiderman is Mexican, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted March 26, 2016 You might want to check out Marvel comics. Captain America is now black, Thor is a girl, Ms. Marvel is middle-eastern, Spiderman is Mexican, etc. I saw that new crap. It's really sh1tty and not worth even reading Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,365 Posted March 26, 2016 You might want to check out Marvel comics. Captain America is now black, Thor is a girl, Ms. Marvel is middle-eastern, Spiderman is Mexican, etc. They took our jobs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,632 Posted March 26, 2016 You might want to check out Marvel comics. Captain America is now black, Thor is a girl, Ms. Marvel is middle-eastern, Spiderman is Mexican, etc. Â I am fine with all of those, except Thor. Thor existed before Marvel and if they want to incorporate Norse mythology into the comics they should try to integrate correctly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,632 Posted March 26, 2016 Here's hoping this is the ed of the stupid idea that comic book movies are supposed to be grim, joyless and for adults. I thought the Dark Knight trilogy was pretty bad and MoS was even worse. Nolan and Snyder are both awful storytellers. I'm really enjoying watching the film get slagged. Â Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southcarolina 166 Posted March 26, 2016 You sound like my brother who wouldn't watch Battlestar Galactica because they made Boomer and Starbuck women. He actually wanted to watch middle aged dudes instead of hot chicks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted March 26, 2016 You sound like my brother who wouldn't watch Battlestar Galactica because they made Boomer and Starbuck women. He actually wanted to watch middle aged dudes instead of hot chicks. Did I say I wasn't going to watch it? Cause I clearly said I was still going to watch it. And they are still men in the movies. I just want some dam accuracy for iconic hero characters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTolerance 585 Posted March 26, 2016 No I'm not. I've seen others gripe about it too. I just hate how people get pissed because there's white cast members in Gods of Egypt yet no one bats an eye when someone who's white is changed to a different race. You don't see Marvel making Deadpool black, Black Widow Israeli, the Hulk Asian, etc. Â http://www.ew.com/article/2015/09/04/marvel-amadeus-cho-totally-awesome-hulk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted March 26, 2016 Â http://www.ew.com/article/2015/09/04/marvel-amadeus-cho-totally-awesome-hulk That's a NEW hulk. Not Bruce Banner all of a sudden being Asian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted March 26, 2016 Looks like they actually heard people were a little upset with how Aquaman was blonde and decided to dye Momoas hair blonde. That can work just fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites