Is It Hypocritical?

[jerryskids 6,800]

 

Not to mention the fact that the vast majority of rapes and child molestation are perpetrated by someone known to the victim. The incidence of transgendered people committing assaults on strangers in bathrooms and lockers rooms is virtually nil.

 

I asked these questions before to the folks crying that their young girls would be exposed to male genitalia in the locker room and/or bathroom: Who is letting their young children into gym locker rooms alone in the first place? Or public restrooms, for that matter? Does anyone know a single person that has encountered someone of the opposite sex showering in a locker room? I do not know one single person who has had that experience.

 

As for high school kids and the transgender issue, how many male students are now going to claim to be transgendered who are not in order to gain access to the girls locker room? My guess would be zero. As for the true transgendered kids, how many of them are showering in the locker room of their choice? Do kids even shower after gym class anymore? I didn't when I was in high school, and that was over 30 years ago. So likely there is no issue there, either.

 

The bottom line is that transgendered people have been using the restrooms of their choice for a long time with no issue. Once Bruce became Caitlyn and mouth breathers suddenly realized that a man might be peeing in a women's rest room, they suddenly worry about THE CHILDREN!!!!!

I don't think the concern is Transgenders per se, but rather that enabling all of this cross restroom / locker room makes it easier for the true pedos to do stuff.

[edjr 6,593]

it really doesn't matter until drobeski gives his hot take

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

If you think it's ok for a tranny with a cack to use the same locker room as a teenage or younger girl at school you're an a-hole. And it's not about pedophilia. And if you don't understand why then you are a stupid a-hole as well.

[MDC 7,435]

If you think it's ok for a tranny with a cack to use the same locker room as a teenage or younger girl at school you're an a-hole. And it's not about pedophilia. And if you don't understand why then you are a stupid a-hole as well.

I guess it's settled then, can't really argue with this logic.

[porkbutt 893]

I don't think the concern is Transgenders per se, but rather that enabling all of this cross restroom / locker room makes it easier for the true pedos to do stuff.

bingo

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

I guess it's settled then, can't really argue with this logic.

Finally, some common sense around here.

[porkbutt 893]

I guess it's settled then, can't really argue with this logic.

nope

[KSB2424 3,148]

Again, this is not was the law stipulated.

 

Its semantics. The Charlotte law stipulated that a Private Business cannot tell or enforce their own rules as to which shower - locker room - bathroom a Transgender person uses, in their own private business. This ordinance mandated they (the owners of the private business) had no control over that. Period. I.e. A local private gym HAD to let a man (who identified as a woman) use the womens restroom-shower-locker room. That ordinance did that. It cannot be refuted and I have been spot on this whole thread.

 

No NC city has a different minimum wage as the state wage either. So the outrage over that tangent issue is FAKE outrage because nothing changed.

 

Two FACTS. I'm sorry providing such facts makes you butt hurt.

[edjr 6,593]

If you think it's ok for a tranny with a cack to use the same locker room as a teenage or younger girl at school you're an a-hole. And it's not about pedophilia. And if you don't understand why then you are a stupid a-hole as well.

 

what about people like MDC who wore shorts in the shower?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

Hey teenage boy struggling with your gender identity, I know you can't drink, smoke, vote, drive or stay out past 9, but you go ahead and decide what sex you want to identify with, and we will make sure the world revolves around you, and tough spit on how others feel about sharing a locker room with you, they will have to get over it. And you know, when you get out there in the real world everyone will continue to pander to you and make sure you always get what you want, because that's the way the world works.

[Frank M 181]

I guess it's settled then, can't really argue with this logic.

 

I was going to say "Tilt!", but this works.

[hoytdwow 202]

 

Its semantics. The Charlotte law stipulated that a Private Business cannot tell or enforce their own rules as to which shower - locker room - bathroom a Transgender person uses, in their own private business. This ordinance mandated they (the owners of the private business) had no control over that. Period. I.e. A local private gym HAD to let a man (who identified as a woman) use the womens restroom-shower-locker room. That ordinance did that. It cannot be refuted and I have been spot on this whole thread.

 

No NC city has a different minimum wage as the state wage either. So the outrage over that tangent issue is FAKE outrage because nothing changed.

 

Two FACTS. I'm sorry providing such facts makes you butt hurt.

I use the common rendering of the law, and you accuse me of semantics while offering your own semantic interpretation. Unreal. And you're the one who's butthurt, obviously. You've been in full retard mode over this for weeks.

[edjr 6,593]

Hey teenage boy struggling with your gender identity, I know you can't drink, smoke, vote, drive or stay out past 9, but you go ahead and decide what sex you want to identify with, and we will make sure the world revolves around you, and tough spit on how others feel about sharing a locker room with you, they will have to get over it. And you know, when you get out there in the real world everyone will continue to pander to you and make sure you always get what you want, because that's the way the world works.

 

[Frank M 181]

I don't think the concern is Transgenders per se, but rather that enabling all of this cross restroom / locker room makes it easier for the true pedos to do stuff.

 

 

True pedophiles are in the public bathroom with your kids right now. Are you seriously suggesting that a male pedophile will now find it easier to molest young girls because he can dress as a female and go into the woman's bathroom?

[Frank M 181]

The only thing that's going to happen is transgendered people are going to continue to use the bathroom of their choice just like they've always done before people became aware that they were doing it.

[vuduchile 1,945]

Hey teenage boy struggling with your gender identity, I know you can't drink, smoke, vote, drive or stay out past 9, but you go ahead and decide what sex you want to identify with, and we will make sure the world revolves around you, and tough spit on how others feel about sharing a locker room with you, they will have to get over it. And you know, when you get out there in the real world everyone will continue to pander to you and make sure you always get what you want, because that's the way the world works.

I like this guy.

[FeelingMN 273]

Hey teenage boy struggling with your gender identity, I know you can't drink, smoke, vote, drive or stay out past 9, but you go ahead and decide what sex you want to identify with, and we will make sure the world revolves around you, and tough spit on how others feel about sharing a locker room with you, they will have to get over it. And you know, when you get out there in the real world everyone will continue to pander to you and make sure you always get what you want, because that's the way the world works.

As research in this field broadens and deepens, gender dysphoria is increasingly recognized as just one of the several atypical patterns of gender development. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5) and International Classification of Diseases 10 (ICD-10) categorization of gender dysphoria as a purely psychiatric disorder is a difficult one because recent evidence has pointed to brain bias as a major determinant of gender identity. If, indeed, patients with gender identity disorders often have a brain bias consistent with their personal gender identity, then a reclassification is necessary. Ever-greater evidence seems to be mounting for this view, particularly in light of the extremely early age at which most cases of gender incongruence present.

 

At this point in time, most discussions of gender dysphoria remain in the realm of psychiatry; however, a valid argument can be made for more rigorous examination of these phenomena in terms of child development and behavior. These disorders are defined by a strong and persistent preference for the status and gender role of another gender. In the most fully expressed cases, this desire is manifested in transsexual behavior, where an adolescent or adult pursues hormonal and surgical sex reassignment to achieve phenotypic congruence with gender identity.

 

Physicians should distinguish all aspects of gender dysphoria from transvestism, or cross-dressing. The specific act of cross-dressing, in the absence of any true confusion about gender identity, is classified as a fetish or simple gender-variant behavior and, like many such behaviors, it may have no particular associations other than increased family anxiety. It is quite common to see school-aged children or teenagers who engage in varying degrees of cross-dressing, sometimes in relation to peer group activity or for creative expression. This behavior cannot be equated to gender dysphoria unless other specific criteria are met. Therefore, while most children with gender dysphoria do in fact cross-dress, the act of cross-dressing alone does not qualify a patient as gender dysphoric or suggest a specific diagnosis of any kind. It may be thought of as a distinct behavior that may sometimes be related to an underlying gender incongruence.

 

In the diagnosis of gender identity disorder of childhood, a referral for mental health assessment is made to address cross-gender behaviors. Most such children wear clothes of the opposite sex, play with toys typically preferred by the opposite sex, and have difficulty in same-sex peer interaction. Age of onset usually is in children younger than 5 years. Psychologic testing can be useful but is not used alone to make a diagnosis for children.

 

The etiology of this complex diagnosis is not clear. Several theories have been proposed, all associated with variation from the normative pathways described above. Because the current presumption is that gender dysphoria is a mental condition that occurs in otherwise genetically and hormonally normal individuals, psychologic explanations continue to play a major role in theories of causality.

 

Because of current societal intolerance of cross-gender behavior in general, most children with gender incongruence experience severe levels of distress as they grow. Many parents and relatives show little acceptance of any signs of gender dysphoria. As mentioned above, girls fare somewhat better than boys in this regard. Tomboyish behavior, or male stereotypical behavior in a girl, is often tolerated and even celebrated in some families. Boys who are inherently effeminate in appearance, behavior, or attitudes are often humiliated, teased, and hurt by peers and family members alike. However, as the behavior patterns progress into later childhood, an equal amount of distress is noted among male and female gender dysphorics.

 

Gender identity disorders of childhood or gender nonconformity of any type has been associated with increased risk for physical or sexual abuse, and post-traumatic stress in youth. It is important to properly explore these issues when evaluating or following a child with issues of gender identity.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/917990-overview#a4

 

Sounds like there may be a physical basis for this behavior and might not be some casual decision made by an entitled teen. And to that point, some of these people live terrible lives early on. Bullied and abused simply for being different.

 

Maybe the answer is just to pretend to be something you're not. Seems to be the geek way.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

Oh yeah, we can't offend Islam, because we need the moderate Muslims to help us in the war on terror, but I guess we don't need moderate US citizens to be understanding towards trans genders. We can shove what we want down their throats, and they won't resent it, not one bit. Great hill to die for, fockin bathrooms. Gin up all sorts of resentment over this garbage. Well played.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

The only thing that's going to happen is transgendered people are going to continue to use the bathroom of their choice just like they've always done before people became aware that they were doing it.

Might want to think bigger picture on this. Ever hear of school vouchers for private school? Guess what, that just moved to the top of my list when I consider candidates, especially on the local and state level. So, less money for public education, less teachers in the union, less votes and money for democrats. Name the fockin school after Ru Paul for all I care at that point.

[Frank M 181]

Might want to think bigger picture on this. Ever hear of school vouchers for private school? Guess what, that just moved to the top of my list when I consider candidates, especially on the local and state level. So, less money for public education, less teachers in the union, less votes and money for democrats. Name the fockin school after Ru Paul for all I care at that point.

 

 

I should be concerned with how one guy on a lightly trafficked message board who's destined to be on the wrong side of history chooses his candidates? One who votes based on how the transgendered pee and shower?

 

Yeah, I'll schedule some time to lose sleep over that.

 

[Frank M 181]

Oh yeah, we can't offend Islam, because we need the moderate Muslims to help us in the war on terror, but I guess we don't need moderate US citizens to be understanding towards trans genders. We can shove what we want down their throats, and they won't resent it, not one bit. Great hill to die for, fockin bathrooms. Gin up all sorts of resentment over this garbage. Well played.

 

So exactly what's being shoved down your throat? Transgendered people are already using the bathrooms they choose.

[porkbutt 893]

liberals

[Frank M 181]

liberals

 

conservatives

[MDC 7,435]

 

So exactly what's being shoved down your throat? .

[Djgb13 2,339]

By no means am I calling them freaks or thinking they shouldn't have rights. But biologically speaking they should have to follow the rules like everyone else. Got a d1ck? Go to the room where everyone has a d1ck. Don't have one? Head to the room that has no d1cks. Simple and easy to follow

[porkbutt 893]

 

conservatives

unisex bathrooms, gender neutral, identity

 

 

 

:lol: whoever made men & women bathrooms is on the wrong side of history!

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

 

So exactly what's being shoved down your throat? Transgendered people are already using the bathrooms they choose.

I don't want young girls having to share a locker room or bathroom at school with males. Crazy, right?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

 

 

I should be concerned with how one guy on a lightly trafficked message board who's destined to be on the wrong side of history chooses his candidates? One who votes based on how the transgendered pee and shower?

 

Yeah, I'll schedule some time to lose sleep over that.

 

Well, the teachers union and democrats seem to dislike charter schools and vouchers. I wonder why? And I have a vote and a checkbook, and I'm not afraid to use either. And there are plenty of people who think the same way. And we all know how politicians hate easy votes and contributions.

[Frank M 181]

By no means am I calling them freaks or thinking they shouldn't have rights. But biologically speaking they should have to follow the rules like everyone else. Got a d1ck? Go to the room where everyone has a d1ck. Don't have one? Head to the room that has no d1cks. Simple and easy to follow

 

Did you know that transgendered females and males can now compete in the Olympics as the gender of their choice as long as they meet the criteria the IOC has set? That criteria does not include any details about the genitals. In other words, you can have a dong and compete in women's sports.

 

The IOC apparently isn't following the rules, "biologically speaking". Guess they're all just a bunch of liberals.

 

[Frank M 181]

unisex bathrooms, gender neutral, identity

 

 

 

:lol: whoever made men & women bathrooms is on the wrong side of history!

 

They will be.

[Djgb13 2,339]

 

Did you know that transgendered females and males can now compete in the Olympics as the gender of their choice as long as they meet the criteria the IOC has set? That criteria does not include any details about the genitals. In other words, you can have a dong and compete in women's sports.

 

The IOC apparently isn't following the rules, "biologically speaking". Guess they're all just a bunch of liberals.

 

I find that quite retarded as well

[Frank M 181]

Well, the teachers union and democrats seem to dislike charter schools and vouchers. I wonder why? And I have a vote and a checkbook, and I'm not afraid to use either. And there are plenty of people who think the same way. And we all know how politicians hate easy votes and contributions.

 

Vote however you want, the tide is turning on this issue and your kind is going to be left behind.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

 

Did you know that transgendered females and males can now compete in the Olympics as the gender of their choice as long as they meet the criteria the IOC has set? That criteria does not include any details about the genitals. In other words, you can have a dong and compete in women's sports.

 

The IOC apparently isn't following the rules, "biologically speaking". Guess they're all just a bunch of liberals.

 

The IOC? A bastion of integrity that crew is.

[porkbutt 893]

 

They will be.

wow. you've lost your mind

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

 

Vote however you want, the tide is turning on this issue and your kind is going to be left behind.

I'll raise my kid as I see fit, thank you. You and the rest of the village can raise yours.

[Frank M 181]

I'll raise my kid as I see fit, thank you. You and the rest of the village can raise yours.

Where did I give you advice on how to raise your kid? I just implied that you have stupid, antiquated ideas, Captain Butthurt. Raise your kid to be the same way, I don't give a fock.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

Where did I give you advice on how to raise your kid? I just implied that you have stupid, antiquated ideas, Captain Butthurt. Raise your kid to be the same way, I don't give a fock.

Like I said, bathrooms are a pretty stupid hill to die on. There will be political fallout for this.

[porkbutt 893]

i wish i was more tolerant so that i wouldn't mind big fat hairy dudes wearing trenchcoats follow my daughter into the bathroom

[Djgb13 2,339]

Just saw where Target is allowing transgender people to use the bathroom of their choice becoming the first business to do so

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

Just saw where Target is allowing transgender people to use the bathroom of their choice becoming the first business to do so

Good. That place sucks anyway.