Hardcore troubadour 15,510 Posted January 5, 2017 what foreign intervention? Obama while awarding himself a medal yesterday claimed there were no foreign attacks on his watch. He would be right if he were getting the points. About 70. Such a punk. Throws in "foreign". Spinning till the end. Why change now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 5, 2017 This really isn't debatable. I mean, the b*tch got canned from CNN for doing it. If CNN can acknowledge the impropriety one would think you could. She should have been canned...that does not make it worse than foreign government hacking and trying to influence an election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted January 5, 2017 Breaking news right now - The intelligence community have intercepts of the Russians celebrating Trump's victory. More stuff coming. - Including the Russians proving material to Wiki. No wonder Trump wants to deny this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,703 Posted January 6, 2017 TILT, Wet The Bed, Tilt! And finally on 1/5/17 after many delays James Clapper stated before Congress that the Russian hacking efforts "did not change the vote tallies" in the election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 6, 2017 TILT, Wet The Bed, Tilt! And finally on 1/5/17 after many delays James Clapper stated before Congress that the Russian hacking efforts "did not change the vote tallies" in the election. Did anybody claim otherwise? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 6, 2017 Our President elect everyone John Schindler John Schindler Verified account @20committee Old #NSA friend tells me that the term used by Kremlin higher-ups to describe Trump is severely unflattering, much worse than "our biotch". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,516 Posted January 6, 2017 Our President elect everyone John Schindler John Schindler Verified account @20committee Old #NSA friend tells me that the term used by Kremlin higher-ups to describe Trump is severely unflattering, much worse than "our biotch". Huh? Is he still sending peemus pics? Yes, I know his history and his current position. Therefore I'm not going to dismiss what he said, but there has to be an agenda for him to say that, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,510 Posted January 6, 2017 Would have been nice if Obama had done something about all the hacking that was going on during his tenure. Remember when China hacked an actual Govt agency? I don't recall what he did about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 6, 2017 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/01/06/mattis-clashing-with-trump-transition-team-over-pentagon-staffing/?postshare=651483705791379&tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.352b6349650c How long does Mattis last after questioning Trump? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 6, 2017 https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf Report released Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,295 Posted January 6, 2017 https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf Report released Moscow’s influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or “trolls.” Some of you fockers are getting paid!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted January 6, 2017 Some of you fockers are getting paid!!!!! RP must be a billionaire 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted January 6, 2017 RP must be a billionaire drobs paid a brazillian dollars just for his girlfriend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 474 Posted January 6, 2017 https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf Report released Two interesting things I've come across early in reading this: The report states that Putin used the Panama Papers disclosure and the Olympic doping scandal as US-directed efforts to defame Russia. Umm...Wikileaks released the Panama Papers in April of 2016. So..in the time period that Assange was radically becoming a Putin apologist, he was releasing US-directed efforts to defame Russia? This report confirms by US intelligence agencies that "disclosures through Wikileaks did not contain any evident forgeries." So, that means the DNC leaked emails are authentic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,510 Posted January 6, 2017 Stil waiting on the sanctions for China. Oh that's right, Obama backed off after China said they won't do it again. The "hold me back" guy strikes again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,295 Posted January 6, 2017 https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf Report released Makes you wonder how effective all of this was... "Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow's longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations," the report continued. Pizzagate...anybody got info on this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 6, 2017 What's better than watching commies cry about commies ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 6, 2017 What's better than watching commies cry about commies ? Who here is a commie and who is crying? Sorry facts about what happened bother you so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 474 Posted January 6, 2017 Who here is a commie and who is crying? Sorry facts about what happened bother you so much. This report lacks a punch to sway anyone's thoughts though. It delves into how RT was some magical powerful force in America swaying people's opinions. While that channel could certainly be used to release propaganda, the reports rationale behind it is not going to go over well with a lot of people that were adamantly against Clinton. In particular... Simonyan has characterized RT's coverage of the Occupy Wall Street movement as "information warfare" that is aimed at promoting popular dissatisfaction with the US Government. RT created a Facebook app to connect Occupy Wall Street protesters via social media. In addition, RT featured its own hosts in Occupy rallies ("Minaev Live," 10 April; RT, 2, 12 June). RT's reports often characterize the United States as a "surveillance state" and allege widespread infringements of civil liberties, police brutality, and drone use (RT, 24, 28 October, 1-10 November). RT has also focused on criticism of the US economic system, US currency policy, alleged Wall Street greed, and the US national debt. Some of RT's hosts have compared the United States to Imperial Rome and have predicted that government corruption and "corporate greed" will lead to US financial collapse (RT, 31 October, 4 November). RT new show "Truthseeker" (RT, 11 November) Simonyan steps over the White House in the introduction from her short-lived domestic show on REN TV (REN TV, 26 December 2011) This report is a declassified version of a highly classified assessment; its conclusions are identical to those in the highly classified assessment but this version does not include the full supporting information on key elements of the influence campaign. 8 RT broadcasts support for other Russian interests in areas such as foreign and energy policy. RT runs anti-fracking programming, highlighting environmental issues and the impacts on public health. This is likely reflective of the Russian Government's concern about the impact of fracking and US natural gas production on the global energy market and the potential challenges to Gazprom's profitability (5 October). RT is a leading media voice opposing Western intervention in the Syrian conflict and blaming the West for waging "information wars" against the Syrian Government (RT, 10 October-9 November). In an earlier example of RT's messaging in support of the Russian Government, during the Georgia-Russia military conflict the channel accused Georgians of killing civilians and organizing a genocide of the Ossetian people. According to Simonyan, when "the Ministry of Defense was at war with Georgia," RT was "waging an information war against the entire Western world" (Kommersant, 11 July). Someone please tell me how that information listed in this report to discredit RT and cast them as a Russian operative is any different than the vocal outrage directed at our government for several years? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 6, 2017 The report laid out that our IC knew pretty well who did what Even Trump came away says by they may have done it. RT is basically the mouthpi CEO for the Russian government. That's not very hidden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 474 Posted January 6, 2017 RT is basically the mouthpi CEO for the Russian government. That's not very hidden And the very information this report criticized RT for televising (what I quoted) was EVERY single one of Bernie Sanders' talking points during the campaign cycle. Bernie was adamant against the US economic system, Wall St. greed, drone usage, police brutality, infringement upon civil liberties, etc. Anti-fracking programming isn't propaganda. It's focking science. Aren't most of us with common sense AGAINST fracking? So Bernie Sanders was a Putin operative? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 6, 2017 And the very information this report criticized RT for televising (what I quoted) was EVERY single one of Bernie Sanders' talking points during the campaign cycle. Bernie was adamant against the US economic system, Wall St. greed, drone usage, police brutality, infringement upon civil liberties, etc. Anti-fracking programming isn't propaganda. It's focking science. Aren't most of us with common sense AGAINST fracking? So Bernie Sanders was a Putin operative? You seem to be focusing on one part of it. Have at it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted January 6, 2017 This report lacks a punch to sway anyone's thoughts though. It delves into how RT was some magical powerful force in America swaying people's opinions. While that channel could certainly be used to release propaganda, the reports rationale behind it is not going to go over well with a lot of people that were adamantly against Clinton. In particular... Someone please tell me how that information listed in this report to discredit RT and cast them as a Russian operative is any different than the vocal outrage directed at our government for several years? We already know you guys won't believe anything on this. Trump has trained you well. Just wake up before the 2020 election, okay? That's all I can ask at this point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 474 Posted January 6, 2017 We already know you guys won't believe anything on this. Trump has trained you well. Just wake up before the 2020 election, okay? That's all I can ask at this point Sure thing. Keep thinking I'm a Trump stooge. Or a Kremlin stooge. Or whatever else it is that makes you sleep better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,590 Posted January 6, 2017 We already know you guys won't believe anything on this. Trump has trained you well. Just wake up before the 2020 election, okay? That's all I can ask at this point Yeah, maybe you libs should "wake up" before the 2020 election if you want to have a chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 6, 2017 Yeah, maybe you libs should "wake up" before the 2020 election if you want to have a chance. Any Christmas moments on the report? Well...that was a strange autocorrect Any actual thoughts in the report? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 474 Posted January 6, 2017 You seem to be focusing on one part of it. Have at it RT is mentioned 61 times in that report. There are a total of 25 pages in this report, seven of which have no content whatsoever (intentionally blank pages, cover pages, and Content page). FIVE of the pages in that report focus solely on RT's coverage leading up to the election in an effort to discredit Clinton. You say I'm focusing on one part. I say I'm focusing on 27.8% of the report. That's a substantial amount of questionable "facts" that determine whether or not our election was greatly influenced. If you're going to attribute any and all criticism of Clinton by RT leading up to the election as Russian influence, what the hell is The Young Turks? Or IB Times? Or many other US sources that openly used many of those talking points? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted January 6, 2017 Yeah, maybe you libs should "wake up" before the 2020 election if you want to have a chance. Yes hopefully the DNC is put in their focking place for foisting a sh1tty candidate on us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted January 6, 2017 Sure thing. Keep thinking I'm a Trump stooge. Or a Kremlin stooge. Or whatever else it is that makes you sleep better. Like I said: 2020. Please? You can spend these next three years defending Trump at every turn but by 2020 try to gain a little objectivity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 474 Posted January 6, 2017 Like I said: 2020. Please? You can spend these next three years defending Trump at every turn but by 2020 try to gain a little objectivity. Defending Trump at every turn Your schtick is hilarious. Keep defending the Democrats and their flawed candidate. Maybe by 2020 YOU can gain a little objectivity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,590 Posted January 6, 2017 Yes hopefully the DNC is put in their focking place for foisting a sh1tty candidate on us. You know Hitlery is considering running for Mayor of NY city, right? She may be setting herself up for the hat trick!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted January 6, 2017 Defending Trump at every turn Your schtick is hilarious. Keep defending the Democrats and their flawed candidate. Maybe by 2020 YOU can gain a little objectivity. I just did in my post above, dummy. Plus I said all along Hilary was a sh1tty candidate. I was a Sanders guy and wish Biden would've run as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 6, 2017 RT is mentioned 61 times in that report. There are a total of 25 pages in this report, seven of which have no content whatsoever (intentionally blank pages, cover pages, and Content page). FIVE of the pages in that report focus solely on RT's coverage leading up to the election in an effort to discredit Clinton. You say I'm focusing on one part. I say I'm focusing on 27.8% of the report. That's a substantial amount of questionable "facts" that determine whether or not our election was greatly influenced. If you're going to attribute any and all criticism of Clinton by RT leading up to the election as Russian influence, what the hell is The Young Turks? Or IB Times? Or many other US sources that openly used many of those talking points? RT is a propaganda wing of the Russian government It's a long enough report. You are focusing on tiny parts of what they said about RT was my point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 6, 2017 You know Hitlery is considering running for Mayor of NY city, right? She may be setting herself up for the hat trick!!!!! No thoughts on the report? Just more about Hillary? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
giraldi02 474 Posted January 6, 2017 I just did in my post above, dummy. Plus I said all along Hilary was a sh1tty candidate. I was a Sanders guy and wish Biden would've run as well Ah once again with the insults. Rather than elaboration or civil discourse, you run to calling me, one of the few people that repeatedly DOES post factual information and links (since those appear to be the know all end all only when someone wants it to be around here), an idiot. I'll leave the insults to the others. I'm sure they're imminent, and chances are, heading in your direction as you continue to drink the Kool-Aid of our "intelligence" agencies that provide not one NAMED U.S. Government official on the record in their definitive report. Answer me this one question: Why can't one member of the CIA, FBI, or NSA attach their name to this report if they're so confident in it's legitimacy and findings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 6, 2017 I'd say the heads of the CIA and FBI take credit...needing a name? Wtf? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted January 6, 2017 Ah once again with the insults. Rather than elaboration or civil discourse, you run to calling me, one of the few people that repeatedly DOES post factual information and links (since those appear to be the know all end all only when someone wants it to be around here), an idiot. I'll leave the insults to the others. I'm sure they're imminent, and chances are, heading in your direction as you continue to drink the Kool-Aid of our "intelligence" agencies that provide not one NAMED U.S. Government official on the record in their definitive report. Answer me this one question: Why can't one member of the CIA, FBI, or NSA attach their name to this report if they're so confident in it's legitimacy and findings? Are you really this dumb? They're focking SPY agencies. Of course they aren't going to name names, give methods, disclose all evidence, etc. in a DECLASSIFIED report. And who the fock are you to second guess this? You don't know jack sh1t. Jesus the arrogance and stupidity is astounding. And when the fock did conservatives decide they hate the intelligence community. You guys used to focking love those guys. Cold War, Reagan era, all that. But then Trump said they were bad and you lapped it up like every other focking stupid ass tweet the man sends out. Pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,590 Posted January 6, 2017 No thoughts on the report? Just more about Hillary? It's a pretty long report. I prefer my reports to be 140 characters or less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted January 6, 2017 It's a pretty long report. I prefer my reports to be 140 characters or less. What a shock...hack on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kanil 520 Posted January 6, 2017 Would have been nice if Obama had done something about all the hacking that was going on during his tenure. Remember when China hacked an actual Govt agency? I don't recall what he did about that. HT brings up a good point. Obama is waaaaay late in pushing back. He should have punished China in 2015 and he should have lent US support in Crimea before Putin put all his "non russian" troops there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
