brotherbock 349 Posted October 30, 2017 PPR scoring he's 11, 16, 27 and 28th ranked RB on a weekly basis since his return. That's RB2/3 territory depending on the league. Workload is increasing, but gameflow, their sort of putrid offensive with Jameis clearly not at 100% he hasn't found the flow yet. But you got him at a discount because of the suspension, so it work out, right? And now this from Roto, just more for us Martin owners to ponder. On Monday, Bucs coach Dirk Koetter was noncommittal about Jameis Winston's (shoulder) availability for Week 9 against the Saints. Koetter admitted he considered pulling Winston out of Sunday's loss to the Panthers after a hit. Winston has been playing with an AC joint sprain in his throwing shoulder. "Nothing will be decided on that until Wednesday based on what the medical staff says and how Jameis feels," Koetter said Monday. In the event Winston can't play against the Saints, Ryan Fitzpatrick would start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 786 Posted October 30, 2017 PPR scoring he's 11, 16, 27 and 28th ranked RB on a weekly basis since his return. That's RB2/3 territory depending on the league. Workload is increasing, but gameflow, their sort of putrid offensive with Jameis clearly not at 100% he hasn't found the flow yet. But you got him at a discount because of the suspension, so it work out, right? I got him in one league at a point in the draft when the RB4's were going. I already got one solid (RB2 stats) start out of him when I had a bye week. I figure if an RB4 gives you even one solid start, you got your value out of the pick, so I am happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,454 Posted October 31, 2017 Doesn't matter. Fitzpatrick and Martin should move the ball just fine. Martin passes the eye test and the usage test, so I'm good with him. He's my RB3/RB4 anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Chewy 98 Posted October 31, 2017 fact is if you have him you are starting him every week. could care less where he's ranked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted October 31, 2017 fact is if you have him you are starting him every week. could care less where he's ranked. *End Thread* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted November 1, 2017 Pretty sure this is becoming a running joke in the FFT weekly rankings. He's 25th behind stud FF RB's Damien Williams, Orleans Darkwa, and Matt Forte. I like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted November 1, 2017 fact is if you have him you are starting him every week. could care less where he's ranked. I have him and this may be the only week I start him, even with a flex spot open. Tampa Bay is the most disappointing team in the league this year and Martin is right there with them fantasy-wise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shredhead 21 Posted November 1, 2017 Pretty sure this is becoming a running joke in the FFT weekly rankings. He's 25th behind stud FF RB's Damien Williams, Orleans Darkwa, and Matt Forte. I like it. Yet Demaryius Thomas keeps getting ranked in the top 10 of WR's with 455 yds and 0 TD's on the season. Take FFT's rankings with a grain of salt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antiramie 50 Posted November 1, 2017 Martin is the RB13 for pts/game in standard right now. He just got 80 and 75 yards against the 3rd and 5th best rushing defenses. Anyone that is disappointed in him, especially given his ADP, is absolutely delusional. Unless you are unbelievably stacked at RB, you start him every week and shut your whiny mouth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavern 70 Posted November 1, 2017 Yet Demaryius Thomas keeps getting ranked in the top 10 of WR's with 455 yds and 0 TD's on the season. Take FFT's rankings with a grain of salt. and there's TY Hilton right back in there in the top 10. he's barely in the top 30 on the year yet they rank him in the top 10 every week. i just don't get the sense a heck of alot of thought goes into these Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,454 Posted November 1, 2017 profootballfocus has Doug Martin ranked 9th in Flex rankings which includes WRs. I like it. https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/fantasy-football-flex-rankings-week-9-2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted November 1, 2017 Martin is the RB13 for pts/game in standard right now. He just got 80 and 75 yards against the 3rd and 5th best rushing defenses. Anyone that is disappointed in him, especially given his ADP, is absolutely delusional. Unless you are unbelievably stacked at RB, you start him every week and shut your whiny mouth. yeah, and Doug has finished 11, 16, 27 and 31st in PPR scoring at the RB position in the 4 weeks since his return. That's averaging to the RB21, meaning he's barely a borderline RB2 at best and definitely trending the wrong direction since his return. His schedule isn't all that great either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,454 Posted November 1, 2017 Doug Martin week 8 was tied for 24th in my ppr league with 11.0 points. We get slight bonuses for longer runs. Doug Martin fantasy points each game in my ppr league: week 5: 16 week 6: 17 week 7: 13 week 8: 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antiramie 50 Posted November 1, 2017 yeah, and Doug has finished 11, 16, 27 and 31st in PPR scoring at the RB position in the 4 weeks since his return. That's averaging to the RB21, meaning he's barely a borderline RB2 at best and definitely trending the wrong direction since his return. His schedule isn't all that great either. A guy that was drafted in likely the 7th+ round and putting up RB2 numbers in PPR is bad why? And hes not trending down. He had 20 and 18 carries his past two games and played two hellacious run defenses. He has top 15 matchups in 6/8 remaining games, and 4 of those are top 10 matchups. R-E-L-A-X. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PunkRockRedneck 8 Posted November 1, 2017 Since his return 4 weeks ago he's 14th at RB in my league. PPR 15.2 15.4 10 8.5 I took him in the 10th round. Not exactly lighting the world on fire, but as a 3rd/4th RB I'll take it. Was hoping for a little more, but it's not bad. Anyone that was expecting RB1 type numbers is delusional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted November 1, 2017 Since his return 4 weeks ago he's 14th at RB in my league. PPR 15.2 15.4 10 8.5 I took him in the 10th round. Not exactly lighting the world on fire, but as a 3rd/4th RB I'll take it. Was hoping for a little more, but it's not bad. Anyone that was expecting RB1 type numbers is delusional. Why is it delusional when you've got a player who's supposed to be a 3-down back, is getting close to 20 touches a game and can't consistently play to even RB2 level? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Antiramie 50 Posted November 1, 2017 Why is it delusional when you've got a player who's supposed to be a 3-down back, is getting close to 20 touches a game and can't consistently play to even RB2 level?So any RB that doesnt put up at least RB2 numbers every single week is a disappointment then? Good luck finding one that meets your standards. Cause even 1st/2nd round RBs like Gurley and Gordon have had much shittier games than Martin. Martin so far has a floor of 7.5 pts in standard against the 5th best run D in the NFL. And his schedule lightens up immensely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brotherbock 349 Posted November 1, 2017 Haven't read this whole thread. What should I expect from Martin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PunkRockRedneck 8 Posted November 1, 2017 he had a great rookie year in 2012 and another great year in 2015 (with only 7 total tds). otherwise he's been meh. (he's actually doing better this year than last) not sure why anyone would EXPECT RB1 numbers considering his past. Looking at where he is in my league, in only the 4 weeks he's been active, he's right about at a RB2. I'd love to see him put up 20+ for me every week like Gurley or someone like that would. But I know he's not going to. I didn't draft him with those numbers in mind. If someone did, that's on them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted November 2, 2017 Pretty sure this is becoming a running joke in the FFT weekly rankings. He's 25th behind stud FF RB's Damien Williams, Orleans Darkwa, and Matt Forte. I like it. Hilarious. Since I posted this he's moved up to 21st, just ahead of the 3 I mentioned. Now I know something's up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,454 Posted November 2, 2017 Hilarious. Since I posted this he's moved up to 21st, just ahead of the 3 I mentioned. Now I know something's up Doug Martin is still behind those players when I look at the weekly ranking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 786 Posted November 2, 2017 And now this from Roto, just more for us Martin owners to ponder. On Monday, Bucs coach Dirk Koetter was noncommittal about Jameis Winston's (shoulder) availability for Week 9 against the Saints. Koetter admitted he considered pulling Winston out of Sunday's loss to the Panthers after a hit. Winston has been playing with an AC joint sprain in his throwing shoulder. "Nothing will be decided on that until Wednesday based on what the medical staff says and how Jameis feels," Koetter said Monday. In the event Winston can't play against the Saints, Ryan Fitzpatrick would start. This could be bad news for Martin if Winston misses significant time. sure, they will run more, but teams will be stacking the box and hoping that the backup QB throws a lot. so the YPC wont be as good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
American Chewy 98 Posted November 2, 2017 Fitzpatrick played well in relief a few weeks back. Honestly I think it's a push at worst and could even be an upgrade over a gimpy winston. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,351 Posted November 2, 2017 Did you know that in his last 14 games that D Martin has played in he's avg 4 plus yards per rush only once. That's not very good for this stud Rb. But with that said. They will need him this weekend. I don't think Winston is playing, and they will need to run the ball, and teams have move the ball on the ground vs the Saints. Only draw back would be if Brees gets rolling and out comes Martin and in comes Sims. With all that said I think he's worthy of a low rb2 this weekend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kent 228 Posted November 2, 2017 Arent they better without Winston? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted November 2, 2017 Doug Martin is still behind those players when I look at the weekly ranking. Huh? I see him moved up to 21st. Was at 25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavern 70 Posted November 2, 2017 i see it. the projections would still have him behind those guys. whatever. he's really not producing anyways. at least right now Huh? I see him moved up to 21st. Was at 25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites