jerryskids 5,206 Posted January 30, 2019 I found a job too. 7 14s for 60 days as a foreman Does this mean 7 days per week, 14 hours per day? If so it seems kinda rough. Also, congrats on the move to management. You will quickly learn that your people suck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted January 30, 2019 So you get laid off, and you log into this site to share on the same day? So you want MDC to comment on your recent loss of job for some reason? You: "I lost my job today." MDC: "Tough deal dude. Fvck Trump." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted January 30, 2019 So you get laid off, and you log into this site to share on the same day? So you want MDC to comment on your recent loss of job for some reason? You: "I lost my job today." MDC: "Tough deal dude. Fvck Trump." Fvck your politics in this post, unless you dont like fries in your frosty 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,645 Posted January 30, 2019 Fvck your politics in this post, unless you dont like fries in your frosty Sderp is a Sdiick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted January 30, 2019 Does this mean 7 days per week, 14 hours per day? If so it seems kinda rough. Also, congrats on the move to management. You will quickly learn that your people suck. Yep 7 days a week 14 hours a day. It's going to be brutal. The last time I did this as a foreman I worked my ass off, harder than as a hand because the job was so screwed up. I am hoping it's not the case for this job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,645 Posted January 30, 2019 Yep 7 days a week 14 hours a day. It's going to be brutal. The last time I did this as a foreman I worked my ass off, harder than as a hand because the job was so screwed up. I am hoping it's not the case for this job.So, not 7 on, 7 off? Damn. Used to work 6/12. But had a break in between. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,172 Posted January 30, 2019 This could just be a hunch, but I think its hard for baby boomers to fully appreciate the grind that a sales commission job takes. i dont think so. Sales commission jobs have obviously been around forever and I feel like baby boomers were getting into those jobs more so than millenials and recent grads. Naturally, the hot sectors have changed but the skills needed remain the same. Have to be a self starter (which a lot of people think they are but really without the direction of their bosses, they are not), plus everything I already mentioned. I think it was just a one off, silly comment that sales = no job skills. Hell, financial advisers and CFP's... I could turn around and say they have no job skills right? Their companies trained them to pass a series of exams and then peddle their products and pretend they care about their clients finances.... but I know how cut throat an industry it is and the skills that actually are required. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 30, 2019 Yep 7 days a week 14 hours a day. It's going to be brutal. The last time I did this as a foreman I worked my ass off, harder than as a hand because the job was so screwed up. I am hoping it's not the case for this job.sounds safe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted January 30, 2019 HourlySo you bust hump and trade long term job stability for a goodly sum of money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted January 30, 2019 sounds safe Exactly what I was thinking. We can read about the accident caused by overworked people later on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted January 30, 2019 Exactly what I was thinking. We can read about the accident caused by overworked people later on.his big brag about unions was worker safety Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted January 30, 2019 Sderp is a Sdiick Oh boy. Wiffledlck. Wow. Isn't this fun? You are so creative. I'm surprised you didn't write another 14 page opinionated essay here on the current state of whatever the hell your mind is wandering on about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted January 30, 2019 drobeski, on 30 Jan 2019 - 07:54 AM, said: his big brag about unions was worker safety Unions should protect against working like that. What a family life, when do you get to take your kids to the zoo, museum, park, etc if you are working that much for 2 months straight. I am about as anti-union as possible and this is a prime reason. They do not help the workers if they allow them to work like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted January 30, 2019 Mung, good to hear. Are you in the oil industry now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted January 30, 2019 Unions and non union alike do 7 12 jobs. It's just the way it is. Most places to implement a fatigue day into the schedule, but it will be hard to get rid of 7 12s completely. The amount of money a plant spends on pay us pales in comparison to how much they are losing each and every day the plant is down. In my line of work, often it's about taking what's available. There aren't many long term construction jobs. 3 months is long term imo. I have done plenty of these 7 12 jobs, and while there is a serious injury here and there, there really aren't too many that happen. Every shut down I go on where non union works by us, they far outpace the union side as far as serious injuries on these jobs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted January 30, 2019 Unions should protect against working like that. What a family life, when do you get to take your kids to the zoo, museum, park, etc if you are working that much for 2 months straight. I am about as anti-union as possible and this is a prime reason. They do not help the workers if they allow them to work like that. Those of us on 7 12s want to be on it to make the extra money. I could make enough in 2 months to take another 2 months off. Trust me, I wish my schedule was more consistent, but I can't help where the work is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted January 30, 2019 Unions and non union alike do 7 12 jobs. It's just the way it is. Most places to implement a fatigue day into the schedule, but it will be hard to get rid of 7 12s completely. The amount of money a plant spends on pay us pales in comparison to how much they are losing each and every day the plant is down. In my line of work, often it's about taking what's available. There aren't many long term construction jobs. 3 months is long term imo. I have done plenty of these 7 12 jobs, and while there is a serious injury here and there, there really aren't too many that happen. Every shut down I go on where non union works by us, they far outpace the union side as far as serious injuries on these jobs. Ironic aint it? Unions were formed to protect the working man from unsafe work practices and unreasonable employer demands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
