Coronavirus - Doomsday

[SaintsInDome2006 801]

Just now, nobody said:

Yeah, if trump dies tomorrow, our nation's security is focked.  Trump's holding it all together.  Okay, man. 

The President dying would be a national security crisis. 

[dogcows 1,269]

Just now, nobody said:

Yeah, if trump dies tomorrow, our nation's security is focked.  Trump's holding it all together.  Okay, man.  

Meanwhile, everyone but the wokies knew Biden had dementia before he was even elected, and somehow the nation didn't fall apart, although it did likely empower Putin to invade Ukraine.  So good job there, wokies.

Man, this dude won a popularity contest.  He's got nothing to do with national security.  In fact, given how these mofos handle classified intelligence, they're all probably more hinderances to security than helpful.

You guys really don't know what leaders do at the top level do you?  You think they sit around making defense plans and writing EOs or something?  Presidents, CEOs... they define themes.  they define policies.  they define strategies, and then if they're good at what they do, they hire good people to go execute strategy and policy.  In Trump's case, he just spouts some generally actionable nonsense (at least on a good day it's actionable), and someone behind the scene turns that into something that hopefully makes some bit of sense.

In the president's case, there are teams and teams and teams of people who actually run sh¡t that Trump doesn't even know exist.

Yep, it’s Weekend at Donnie’s - he is completely out of it and weirdos like Stephen Miller are calling the shots.

[nobody 2,939]

1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

The President dying would be a national security crisis. 

no it wouldn't.  there's this thing called line of succession.  

[SaintsInDome2006 801]

4 minutes ago, dogcows said:

As for limiting the spread… if people are vaccinated, they can fight the virus. Meaning their body kills the virus. Meaning less virus around to spread. It’s really that simple. But again... Not simple enough for MAGA folks apparently.

Finally, the (supposed, data is not verified) risk of heart issues from the vaccine is lower than the risk of getting struck by lightning. Meanwhile, getting the virus increases your risk of heart issues. 

But the President’s doctors don’t agree with this. That’s my whole point. I really don’t want to argue virology, I’m just saying that the best physicians & virologists in the country recommend it. 

[SaintsInDome2006 801]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

no it wouldn't.  there's this thing called line of succession.  

Thanks, admittedly IMO, though there’s a good deal of history behind my point. I think you’d at least agree Trump is getting the very best treatment possible anywhere. When he got Covid in 2020 he received treatment that hadn’t even been released to the public yet.

[nobody 2,939]

On 12/8/2025 at 11:20 AM, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Thanks, admittedly IMO, though there’s a good deal of history behind my point.

Like what?  Kennedy got assassinated coming off of cuban missile crisis, and nothing happened.

Swear the next guy in.  As long as they aren't as clearly vulnerable as Biden was, everything will be fine.  They're all the same anyway.  Just don't be a simp.

A clearly compromised Biden going on tv and drooling all over himself in a presidential debate letting the world know we had a vegetable with his finger on the button was a bigger national security issue.  Well, I say let the world know, but I'm sure everyone already knew.  The wokies, yet again, were the last ones to catch up. 

I wonder where these amazing doctors that you hold in such high esteem were when that went down because anyone who's ever been around someone with dementia knew right away back in the original election that cat was on borrowed time, and several of us on this site said it at the time.  You remember what your team said?  It was a stutter. 

Yeah, let me trust y'all.  I don't even understand why y'all keep insisting on having opinions.  If I focked up as much as you guys did over installing biden and covid handling, I'd be gun shy about having strong opinions, but y'all just keep going.

 

[SaintsInDome2006 801]

42 minutes ago, nobody said:

Like what?  Kennedy got assassinated coming off of cuban missile crisis, and nothing happened.

Swear the next guy in.  As long as they aren't as clearly vulnerable as Biden was, everything will be fine.  They're all the same anyway.  Just don't be a simp.

A clearly compromised Biden going on tv and drooling all over himself in a presidential debate letting the world know we had a vegetable with his finger on the button was a bigger national security issue.  Well, I say let the world know, but I'm sure everyone already knew.  The wokies, yet again, were the last ones to catch up. 

I wonder where these amazing doctors that you hold in such high esteem were when that went down because anyone who's ever been around someone with dementia knew right away back in the original election knew that cat was on borrowed time, and several of us on this site said it at the time.  You remember what your team said?  It was a stutter. 

Yeah, let me trust y'all.  I don't even understand why y'all keep insisting on having opinions.  If I focked up as much as you guys did over installing biden and covid handling, I'd be gun shy about having strong opinions, but y'all just keep going.

I think you’re thinking of a situation where someone just keels over. I think I’m thinking of a situation like Garfield where it takes a long time. Or maybe Wilson who didn’t die but who was a quasi-vegetable for months. 

I think you’re also way underestimating how shaky things can be when a president dies. There was a period between when Kennedy died & Johnson was sworn in where the US was quite vulnerable. Reagan was shot but he didn’t transfer power but instead of Bush the Sec. of State held a press conference where he announced he was in charge.

Also the ‘you guys’ thing - you’re an individual not some party-bot. At least thats how I view your opinions here.

[TimHauck 3,442]

54 minutes ago, nobody said:

I remember when the jabs first came out.  They thought everyone would be tripping over themselves to go get it.  And while all the lefties were body checking grandmas to get in line first, all the common sense people were like, "Sure.  I don't even want it anyway."  

For the record:

• The wokies told you you needed to get the jab.  If you're young and healthy, you ain't dying of covid.  You probably didn't need a jab and you sure as hell don't need to keep getting jabs.  It's just like any other medicine.  Every single one has side effects.  Don't take anything you don't absolutely need to take
• The wokies told you it would stop the spread.  The jab won't stop the spread, so getting the jab isn't saving grandma.  Not a reason to take it.
• If you're old, if you're fat, if you have compromised immune system, you should probably get at least one jab.  Fauci focked you good by funding wuhan labs (and then lying about it).  You're going to have to pick the lesser of two evils here because the problem is you're going to have an elevated risk of dying from the vid or you're going to have an elevated risk of having some heart problem from the jab (glad they at least finally started admitted that is happening).

It ain't hard until you guys started listening to Fauci cover for his lies and Bourla trying to make more money and a bunch of ivory tower policy makers that made a trillion dollar mistake shutting businesses down trying to save granny.

 

This isn’t completely wrong, but a couple things:

1) I disagree that “common sense people” didn’t want it.  I’d say a majority of them did.

2) I hate when people say stuff like “it didn’t stop the spread.”   Define “stop”?   100% stop it completely?  No.  But pre-Omicron, it did provably reduce infections.  It definitely slowed the spread, even if you might have gotten Covid from a gay orgy in Ptown.

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[seafoam1 3,527]

On 12/8/2025 at 3:04 PM, TimHauck said:

This isn’t completely wrong, but a couple things:

1) I disagree that “common sense people” didn’t want it.  I’d say a majority of them did.

2) I hate when people say stuff like “it didn’t stop the spread.”   Define “stop”?   100% stop it completely?  No.  But pre-Omicron, it did provably reduce infections.  It definitely slowed the spread, even if you might have gotten Covid from a gay orgy in Ptown.

1) Wrong

2) No one cares about all the things you hate in life. In fact, your whinly BS schtick is old and tired. No wonder why fbgheys shut you all down. 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,061]

Don’t go the beach! Go to Wal Mart! 

[lickin_starfish 2,037]

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[Fnord 2,653]

On 12/8/2025 at 1:32 PM, nobody said:

Like what?  Kennedy got assassinated coming off of cuban missile crisis, and nothing happened.

Swear the next guy in.  As long as they aren't as clearly vulnerable as Biden was, everything will be fine.  They're all the same anyway.  Just don't be a simp.

A clearly compromised Biden going on tv and drooling all over himself in a presidential debate letting the world know we had a vegetable with his finger on the button was a bigger national security issue.  Well, I say let the world know, but I'm sure everyone already knew.  The wokies, yet again, were the last ones to catch up. 

I wonder where these amazing doctors that you hold in such high esteem were when that went down because anyone who's ever been around someone with dementia knew right away back in the original election that cat was on borrowed time, and several of us on this site said it at the time.  You remember what your team said?  It was a stutter. 

Yeah, let me trust y'all.  I don't even understand why y'all keep insisting on having opinions.  If I focked up as much as you guys did over installing biden and covid handling, I'd be gun shy about having strong opinions, but y'all just keep going.

 

"Nothing happened" after Kennedy got assassinated?  A POTUS dying in office is a very big deal, and will always create some level of crisis. Now if this PARTICULAR president were to die in office, and there was even a half-baked miniscule chance that the causes weren't natural, you'd have a few thousand rough and ready rednecks out for blood. I saw what happened when a relative nobody like Charlie Kirk got killed. That was far from "nothing."

As for your Covid opinions, the bolded really focked with my irony meter. You'll pardon me if I choose to listen to those who've spent years being educated in health care and disease treatment/prevention over whatever mooks you're listening to. And conflating doctors and Covid with Biden's cognitive incapacitation isn't even a good whatabout. It's apples and solar systems.

I'm not trying to be a richard; I have nothing whatsoever against you personally. But you seem to be one of a great many people that are eager to ignore expert opinions because they are politically inconvenient, which is just another example of the many destructive mindsets this admin has normalized. Hell, he's doing everything he can to remove experts from every level of government.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,061]

Somewhere buried in this thread that Tim Hauck lost is me saying how stupid it was to be wearing a mask and keeping 15 ft apart at a kids soccer game outside.  I remember some FNord Karen actually going around enforcing it. I wish I said to piss off. But they had a cop at the field. Funny I haven’t seen one there since. 

[nobody 2,939]

34 minutes ago, Fnord said:

"Nothing happened" after Kennedy got assassinated?  A POTUS dying in office is a very big deal, and will always create some level of crisis. Now if this PARTICULAR president were to die in office, and there was even a half-baked miniscule chance that the causes weren't natural, you'd have a few thousand rough and ready rednecks out for blood. I saw what happened when a relative nobody like Charlie Kirk got killed. That was far from "nothing."

As for your Covid opinions, the bolded really focked with my irony meter. You'll pardon me if I choose to listen to those who've spent years being educated in health care and disease treatment/prevention over whatever mooks you're listening to. And conflating doctors and Covid with Biden's cognitive incapacitation isn't even a good whatabout. It's apples and solar systems.

I'm not trying to be a richard; I have nothing whatsoever against you personally. But you seem to be one of a great many people that are eager to ignore expert opinions because they are politically inconvenient, which is just another example of the many destructive mindsets this admin has normalized. Hell, he's doing everything he can to remove experts from every level of government.

Except my opinions that I said three months into covid were correct, and the policy makers that presumably were listening to doctors were wrong.  We should've never shut down.  We should've never forced the jab on young healthy people.  Your problem is you think we live in a ideal society where people do things out of moral character.  The main motivation of all those clowns is 1. Keep their job, 2. Cover their ass, 3. Make money................ 4. Set policy that benefit us hoi polloi.  Once you start to realize that, you'll understand life better.  That's why I could look around with my own eyes and see the policies were bunk.  Although I'm sure you'll be one of the many here who say they didn't support mandates with 0.00000001% of your energy and spend the rest of your energy saying dancing around why it was cool.

And the Biden thing isn't whataboutism.  It's precedent.  We had a straight up incapacitated president asleep at the wheel.  Everyone but the wokies knew it. Nothing happened (except putin invading Ukraine since he was empowered to do so by a vegetable president who knew was in know position to make any real stand).

And yes nothing happened after kennedy got assassinated.  People feeling anxious doesn't amount to a crisis.  

Way to jam so much wrong in one post.  The density of wrong in there is off the charts. Impressive.

[nobody 2,939]

I'll break this out because it's an important point.

Subject matter experts catastrophize.  I'll say it again.  Subject matter experts make catastrophies out of their specialities.  

I'm an engineer.  Oftentimes, we design something and it has some hidden problem that we can't figure out, so we bring in experts.

I've literally never ever ever ever brought in an expert that didn't say everything to do with their speciality is completely FUBAR and we need to redesign everything.

1. The power guy says the power is all wrong and we need to redesign all the power.  100% sure our problem is from power
2. The signal integrity guy says our layout is all wrong and they're 100% sure our problem is a signal integrity problem.
3. RF guy says the RF is all wrong and we need to completely redesign everything.  100% convinced that's the problem

Then turns out it was some software problem we finally catch and everything works great.

But my job as a leader is to make decisions.  And in most companies we don't make high dollar decisions unless we're absolutely god damned sure.  So here's what we do.  We listen to everyone.  We create an impact assessment.  If the impact is high, we make the sky screamers prove to us what they are sky screaming about before we do anything.  We don't make decisions out of fear and because we don't have an endless amount of tax payer dollars to waste, we invest our time and money wisely by making policy that considers all aspects of the decision.

In covid, we listened to the sky screamers and made a trillion dollar mistake out of fear grandma would die.  Guess what? grandma was getting covid anyway.  There was no need to waste trillions of dollars. 

In covid, by the time the jab hit, it was obvious young, healthy people were not at risk of dying.  There was no reason to force them to take fast-tracked vaccine.

Leaders have to make shìtty decisions sometimes.  Tanking the economy to save grandma was the wrong move   we made decisions out of fear.

You'll claim hindsight .. nope we said it in real time. 

You'll claim novel virus... Indeed it was a novel virus.  That's why you don't make trillion dollar decisions with incomplete information.  Again... Making decisions out of fear, and out of covering your ass.  And once it was clear, our decision making was overly draconian, we didn't course correct.  Why?  Fear.  "If I change my decision, it'll look bad on me." "If Grandma dies, I need say I did something.  Let's burn these trillions."

Nope.  It was terrible decision making all the way around.  People with common sense knew it in near real time.  The media told you it was righteous, so now you'll go to your grave believing that.

 

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[dogcows 1,269]

On 12/19/2025 at 11:08 AM, nobody said:

In covid, by the time the jab hit, it was obvious young, healthy people were not at risk of dying.  There was no reason to force them to take fast-tracked vaccine.

Actually, vaccinating as much as possible of the population protects the vulnerable. So there is a VERY good reason for widespread vaccination. Unless you’re ok with a million people dying prematurely. Which it turns out Trump and MAGA were very happy to accept so they could have anti-mask anti-vax temper tantrums.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,061]

Remember when Biden was so eager to get migrants in that they didn’t even bother to test them for COVID? Millions. 

[nobody 2,939]

2 hours ago, dogcows said:

Actually, vaccinating as much as possible of the population protects the vulnerable. So there is a VERY good reason for widespread vaccination. Unless you’re ok with a million people dying prematurely. Which it turns out Trump and MAGA were very happy to accept so they could have anti-mask anti-vax temper tantrums.

This clown still thinks if I get the jab, he won't get covid. 

Shaking my god damned head.

[dogcows 1,269]

5 hours ago, nobody said:

This clown still thinks if I get the jab, he won't get covid. 

Shaking my god damned head.

It’s not me who “thinks” this  It’s a scientific fact  Viruses don’t care about your feelings  

https://health.osu.edu/health/virus-and-infection/how-your-vaccine-decision-affects-others

[Maximum Overkill 2,628]

10 hours ago, dogcows said:

Actually, vaccinating as much as possible of the population protects the vulnerable. So there is a VERY good reason for widespread vaccination. Unless you’re ok with a million people dying prematurely. Which it turns out Trump and MAGA were very happy to accept so they could have anti-mask anti-vax temper tantrums.

You do know that you can still get, carry and spread Covid even if vaccinated, right? It's up to the vulnerable to get vaccinated, not the invulnerable. 

Liberals think they get a shot and are all in a sudden Superman. 

[lickin_starfish 2,037]

2 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

You do know that you can still get and spread Covid even if vaccinated, right? It's up to the vulnerable to get vaccinated, not the unvearable. 

Liberals think they get a shot and are all in a sudden Superman. 

Every person I know that got the injections proceeded to catch coovid. Every single one.

It's fine if people wanted to get jabbed, but the pedophiles running things pushed a mandate on people who didn't want it.

Ask yourself why the evil ruling class, (who rapes kids, bombs innocent countries to rubble, steals people's money, and schemes behind the scenes) ask yourself why they would extort people into getting an experimental injection.

[Maximum Overkill 2,628]

1 minute ago, lickin_starfish said:

Ask yourself why the evil ruling class, (who rapes kids, bombs innocent countries to rubble, steals people's money, and schemes behind the scenes) ask yourself why they would extort people into getting an experimental injection.

My dumb Liberal Aunt was vaccinated numerous times and had Covid more times than anyone I know. Her and her Pedocrat Husband wouldn't even leave the house. When we got it we treated it as the flu, stayed hydrated, took over the counter meds, took some Zinc, etc. Not one person in my Family is vaccinated and never got anything more than mild symptoms. 

The whole thing was a scam. We have a family friend who is a pharmacist. She said that they were testing unused, brand new NEVER USED swabs and they were testing positive. 

The whole thing was a scam and Pedocrats fell right in line. 

 

[Tree of Knowledge 2,266]

11 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Remember when Biden was so eager to get migrants in that they didn’t even bother to test them for COVID? Millions. 

The fact there was no COVID checking at the border was the biggest tell of them all if you look at this sordid period of time objectively.  

[dogcows 1,269]

1 hour ago, lickin_starfish said:

Every person I know that got the injections proceeded to catch coovid. Every single one

I guess you don’t know me personally but I got the full vaccination schedule and never caught the disease.

[dogcows 1,269]

1 hour ago, lickin_starfish said:

 

Ask yourself why the evil ruling class, (who rapes kids, bombs innocent countries to rubble, steals people's money, and schemes behind the scenes) ask yourself why they would extort people into getting an experimental injection.

How was it extortion when we got it for free?  So weird.

You should talk to some actual doctors or biologists about it. You’d see your conspiracy fears quickly fade away.

[TimHauck 3,442]

On 12/19/2025 at 11:08 AM, nobody said:

 

In covid, we listened to the sky screamers and made a trillion dollar mistake out of fear grandma would die.  Guess what? grandma was getting covid anyway.  There was no need to waste trillions of dollars. 

In covid, by the time the jab hit, it was obvious young, healthy people were not at risk of dying.  There was no reason to force them to take fast-tracked vaccine.

Leaders have to make shìtty decisions sometimes.  Tanking the economy to save grandma was the wrong move   we made decisions out of fear.

You'll claim hindsight .. nope we said it in real time. 

You'll claim novel virus... Indeed it was a novel virus.  That's why you don't make trillion dollar decisions with incomplete information.  Again... Making decisions out of fear, and out of covering your ass.  And once it was clear, our decision making was overly draconian, we didn't course correct.  Why?  Fear.  "If I change my decision, it'll look bad on me." "If Grandma dies, I need say I did something.  Let's burn these trillions."

Nope.  It was terrible decision making all the way around.  People with common sense knew it in near real time.  The media told you it was righteous, so now you'll go to your grave believing that.

 

It wouldn’t have been quite as bad (although it honestly came back quicker than I expected), but the economy was going to tank regardless.   Those sky screamers weren’t going to choose to go to cruise ships, restaurants, movie theaters, etc even if no one told them they couldn’t.

There is also a middle ground between “grandma” and “young, healthy people.”  The Delta wave was particularly devastating to middle aged folks around their 40’s-60’s, especially in the south.  Some who might still be with us had they been vaccinated.

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2 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

The fact there was no COVID checking at the border was the biggest tell of them all if you look at this sordid period of time objectively.  

Liberals said and say nothing when it’s right in their face. But our kids schools were shut. 

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[TimHauck 3,442]

On 12/21/2025 at 9:05 AM, lickin_starfish said:

Every person I know that got the injections proceeded to catch coovid. Every single one.

It's fine if people wanted to get jabbed, but the pedophiles running things pushed a mandate on people who didn't want it.

Ask yourself why the evil ruling class, (who rapes kids, bombs innocent countries to rubble, steals people's money, and schemes behind the scenes) ask yourself why they would extort people into getting an experimental injection.

And I’m sure you also “didn’t know anyone that died of Covid so it was NBD,” right?

Insurance companies wanted people to get vaccinated because it saved them money since it was effective in making it less likely for people to die.

[Fnord 2,653]

On 12/19/2025 at 9:50 AM, nobody said:

  Your problem is you think we live in a ideal society where people do things out of moral character.  The main motivation of all those clowns is 1. Keep their job, 2. Cover their ass, 3. Make money................ 4. Set policy that benefit us hoi polloi.  Once you start to realize that, you'll understand life better.  

Thanks for your response. Let's start with the above:

I have no illusions about living in an ideal society, so that statement is absurd. Your next assertion is simply exposing you as someone that approaches everything with analytical cynicism, which makes sense given your engineering background. Being analytically cynical and objective while troubleshooting is advantageous. But let me be very clear here: in a hospital setting, if you think the only motivation for healthcare workers is to cash paychecks and that none of them GAF about anything else, your cynicism is working against you and your objectivity has disappeared. Life or death decisions in high pressure situations bring out the best in healthcare professionals. And no matter how much you love yourself, or money, or how much you loathe others, you have a job to do and you get emotionally involved with it. It's a matter of personal and professional pride. I've seen completely unproductive, useless employees turn into rock stars when they know someone else's life may be at stake.

If I, an amateur, ignorant shadetree engineer on my very best day, were to come into your place of employment and yell at you that you're a lying POS that's trying to kill me and my elderly mom with your products all for the sake of a measly profit while you, under a great deal of personal and professional stress are doing everything in your power to do the right thing by your customers during a generational crisis, you'd justifiably tell me to fock right off. You're the expert, not me. You're in the foxhole dealing with the reality of the situation, not me. I'm an uninformed intruder with the gall to think I know your world better than you. There's a lot of great words to describe me in this scenario. Dipshit would be an excellent choice. 

 

[Fnord 2,653]

On 12/19/2025 at 9:50 AM, nobody said:

And the Biden thing isn't whataboutism.  It's precedent.  We had a straight up incapacitated president asleep at the wheel.  Everyone but the wokies knew it. Nothing happened (except putin invading Ukraine since he was empowered to do so by a vegetable president who knew was in know position to make any real stand).

Now this.

Biden's vegetative state was NOT precedent. Ronald Reagan was far worse by the end of his second term. And his presidency is ironically held up as the gold standard of Republican policy. Meanwhile, those of us not in the bag for the DNC will happily admit that Biden was too far gone to continue being POTUS. We have quickly distanced ourselves from him and his admin. Most of us will truthfully admit we never wanted to elect him, it's just that one of his shriveled testicles would have made a better pres than the Don. We voted for Kamala not Trump for the same reason. 

And now we have yet another POTUS that is old, senile, and completely unfit for office. One that has made open corruption acceptable. All the "wokies" have known that for over a decade now. When you gonna catch up?

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This guy. 

Fdork is a life failure. 

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2 hours ago, Fnord said:

 

2 hours ago, Fnord said:

Were you working directly with the legal liaisons that make those decisions? Were you high in the chain of command? Or were you just following orders like a dogface grunt?

You'll pardon me for not trusting a godam word you type. Spewing years of vile propaganda and lies tends to have that effect.

And then this. Oof. 

2 hours ago, Fnord said:

This is how you are supposed to interact with other humans. Well done, ToK. You're loony tunes, but good people. Have a great Christmas!

 

[nobody 2,939]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

Thanks for your response. Let's start with the above:

I have no illusions about living in an ideal society, so that statement is absurd. Your next assertion is simply exposing you as someone that approaches everything with analytical cynicism, which makes sense given your engineering background. Being analytically cynical and objective while troubleshooting is advantageous. But let me be very clear here: in a hospital setting, if you think the only motivation for healthcare workers is to cash paychecks and that none of them GAF about anything else, your cynicism is working against you and your objectivity has disappeared. Life or death decisions in high pressure situations bring out the best in healthcare professionals. And no matter how much you love yourself, or money, or how much you loathe others, you have a job to do and you get emotionally involved with it. It's a matter of personal and professional pride. I've seen completely unproductive, useless employees turn into rock stars when they know someone else's life may be at stake.

If I, an amateur, ignorant shadetree engineer on my very best day, were to come into your place of employment and yell at you that you're a lying POS that's trying to kill me and my elderly mom with your products all for the sake of a measly profit while you, under a great deal of personal and professional stress are doing everything in your power to do the right thing by your customers during a generational crisis, you'd justifiably tell me to fock right off. You're the expert, not me. You're in the foxhole dealing with the reality of the situation, not me. I'm an uninformed intruder with the gall to think I know your world better than you. There's a lot of great words to describe me in this scenario. Dipshit would be an excellent choice. 

 

LOL, some doctors are the biggest moneygrabbers out there.  I do trust the nurses though.

I was in the hospital for a surgery in March.  Non-standard due to some complication, so they had to make an extra incision.  Not in the playbook is the point.

Doctor too busy to give an F, so I see his PAs.  "Yeah you're all good to start PT."  I do PT.  Second incision that wasn't typical opens because it was in a place that gets stretched by PT.  Should've had constraints on PT, but because I wasn't worth being seen by the doctor and the PAs just know whatever they playbook says to do, incision opens.  PA sees the incision is opening at final checkup and puts steri-strips on it, instead of actually addressing it.  Incompetent, but at least wasn't coming from a morally questionable place.

Incision gets infected.  Big problem because now I have artificial parts in me and if the infection reaches it, I'm potentially losing limbs.  Doc is on vacation.  To his credit, he calls me from cancun.  They give me antibiotics.  They don't work.

Finally see doc.  Infection not getting better.  Doc says we need to cut it out.  We do.  I'm in the hospital for 5 more days while they do cultures.  Should take a day, but it was on the weekend so, since it didn't come in on that Friday, I was there til Monday on IV antibiotics since they didn't know which antibiotics to give me.  They care about me so much, they couldn't be bothered to staff the lab over the weekend.  

Nurse wants me to pee because some playbook told her I need to pee.  I don't pee on demand because I'm still numb.  She wants to put a catheter in.  I tell her no.  We should just wait a few hours and I'll probably pee.  She lies to me and says my bladder will explode.  I still refuse.  This was at about midnight.  She gets mad and I never see her again.  I finally piss around 4 am.  Everyone is happy now and I didn't need a tube shoved up my d¡ck.  Some nurse sheepishly explains unprompted that the other nurse was just trying to make sure I didn't have complications from the anesthesia which tells me they were talking sh¡t about me because I didn't even bring it up, and the original convo wasn't even confrontational.  It was very cordial.  I just said, I'd rather wait (and I was right).  Again... questionable competence, but at least trying to do right.

Infection disease doc comes in.  Useless.  keeps telling me it'll take a day.  Doesn't take a day because these people that care about me so much have stuff to do (fair enough).  I totally get people don't work 24/7.  Just don't need the lies.  Sunday, infection doc comes in.  She thought the cultures would've been there by now.  Cool story.  So anyway, I'd love to get the F outta there, but I'll keep waiting.

And all of that is context for this.  the coup de grace...

This b¡tch asks me what kind of insurance I have.  I tell her, and when she hears it covers her she says I should show up at her office in three weeks.  When I do finally get out of there office calling me everyday.  Full court press.  Like, woman, what are you going to tell me three weeks after I'm infection free that I wouldn't have already known?  It took you 5 days to grow a culture for a basic staph infection.  You haven't even looked at the site.  Why the F do I need you doing sh¡t for me?  And she knows it, too.  She wanted the cash grab from the appointment.  Completely told on herself.  If she can get money from insurance, I should see her.  If I wasn't covered, not needed I guess?

Nurses... yeah.  They don't have outside incentive, so they probably do care, and they do appear to work quite hard.  Doctors?  They are in it for the money.  Seen it with my own two eyes too many times.

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1 hour ago, Fnord said:

Now this.

Biden's vegetative state was NOT precedent. Ronald Reagan was far worse by the end of his second term. And his presidency is ironically held up as the gold standard of Republican policy. Meanwhile, those of us not in the bag for the DNC will happily admit that Biden was too far gone to continue being POTUS. We have quickly distanced ourselves from him and his admin. Most of us will truthfully admit we never wanted to elect him, it's just that one of his shriveled testicles would have made a better pres than the Don. We voted for Kamala not Trump for the same reason. 

And now we have yet another POTUS that is old, senile, and completely unfit for office. One that has made open corruption acceptable. All the "wokies" have known that for over a decade now. When you gonna catch up?

So two precedents, and nothing happened.  Not the national security crisis it was purported to be, no?  Or did we forget what started this whole line of discussion.

Trump is old, but he's not senile.  You guys are mistaking being dumb, arrogant, and having poor impulse control with senility.  I get it's on purpose because you saw how we kept calling out Biden's dementia and you want to now too, but he has enough flaws that you don't need to make up that he has dementia too. 

It makes me think that maybe you guys really didn't know Biden had dementia since you clearly don't know what it looks like.  I thought you guys were just bring willfully ignorant.  I'm glad you guys haven't had to witness that spiral if so.

And I know he's corrupt just maybe not the way you think he is.  He's abusing his office for personal vendettas and he's covering for pedos (probably including himself).   

But unlike you guys, I appear to have this unique ability to judge a person's actions independent of one another.  Yes, he's a sh¡tbag, and I would love to see him in jail along with Pelosi and Biden, and all the other sh¡tbags.  But we got who we got.  It does me no good to pretend like everything him or whoever was controlling Biden or Obama is wrong just because I dislike them personally and think they are trash.  Yes Biden focked up a lot.  Yes Trump focked up a lot.  yes Obama focked up a lot.  That will definitely happen.  Biden and Obama happeneed to fock up more than most in my opinion, but hey, sometimes if you have red paint, you paint the barn red.

If you can't separate people from their worst actions, you would have to hate everyone.  We're all pretty sh¡tty.  For some reason with Trump, you guys have a visceral personal hatred.  I just treat him more like a bad leader I have to work around like I do with all bad leaders and coworkers in my life.  Anticipate what bad (or good) decisions they are going to make and act accordingly.

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Fnord getting an absolute beatdown for Christmas.  

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11 minutes ago, nobody said:

So two precedents, and nothing happened.  Not the national security crisis it was purported to be, no?  Or did we forget what started this whole line of discussion.

Trump is old, but he's not senile.  You guys are mistaking being dumb, arrogant, and having poor impulse control with senility.  I get it's on purpose because you saw how we kept calling out Biden's dementia and you want to now too, but he has enough flaws that you don't need to make up that he has dementia too. 

It makes me think that maybe you guys really didn't know Biden had dementia since you clearly don't know what it looks like.  I thought you guys were just bring willfully ignorant.  I'm glad you guys haven't had to witness that spiral if so.

And I know he's corrupt just maybe not the way you think he is.  He's abusing his office for personal vendettas and he's covering for pedos (probably including himself).   

But unlike you guys, I appear to have this unique ability to judge a person's actions independent of one another.  Yes, he's a sh¡tbag, and I would love to see him in jail along with Pelosi and Biden, and all the other sh¡tbags.  But we got who we got.  It does me no good to pretend like everything him or whoever was controlling Biden or Obama is wrong just because I dislike them personally and think they are trash.  Yes Biden focked up a lot.  Yes Trump focked up a lot.  yes Obama focked up a lot.  That will definitely happen.  Biden and Obama happeneed to fock up more than most in my opinion, but hey, sometimes if you have red paint, you paint the barn red.

If you can't separate people from their worst actions, you would have to hate everyone.  We're all pretty sh¡tty.  For some reason with Trump, you guys have a visceral personal hatred.  I just treat him more like a bad leader I have to work around like I do with all bad leaders and coworkers in my life.  Anticipate what bad (or good) decisions they are going to make and act accordingly.

An honest assessment of the guy in the White House.

It astonishes me that so many people voted for an arrogant, stupid man with poor impulse control (as you said). But a lot of Americans share those traits, so…

They all made mistakes. However… IMO, the big difference between this prez and the listed predecessors is simple. They were at least trying to do things they thought would benefit the nation. The amount the current guy cares about the average American (or anything other than himself) can be measured in microshits. If the prez cares, there is a chance they will do more good than bad. If they don’t? We’re at the mercy of the last advisor in the room before a decision is made. Or whatever decision might benefit the prez personally (corruption seems to be his driving force).

As for dementia? I can’t assess that, but there is a clear and obvious degradation of the man’s mental faculties since his first term. Might just be his fast-approaching 80th birthday. Don’t believe me? Watch a recent speech and compare it to something from the 2016 campaign. He’s way past his expiration date and he’s starting to smell.