Coronavirus - Doomsday

[lod001 1,344]

At least they are finally acknowledging that people are dropping dead at an abnormally high rate. They think people are dumb enough to believe this BS (tim hack) even though everyone has been exposed to the virus by now. That's why they tried hard to force everyone to get jabbed. Take away the control group, and they can blame it on something else. They (pfizer) knew from day 1 that their crap was going to kill millions.

I fixed their statement.

Experts have issued an urgent 'death' warning to anyone who has had MRNA Covid jabs in the last two years.

New research shows that anyone jabbed with MRNA are at an increased risk of dying for up to two years after the jab. Actually there is no time limit.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/health/experts-issue-urgent-death-warning-30775266#

[TimHauck 2,714]

2 hours ago, lod001 said:

At least they are finally acknowledging that people are dropping dead at an abnormally high rate. They think people are dumb enough to believe this BS (tim hack) even though everyone has been exposed to the virus by now. That's why they tried hard to force everyone to get jabbed. Take away the control group, and they can blame it on something else. They (pfizer) knew from day 1 that their crap was going to kill millions.

I fixed their statement.

Experts have issued an urgent 'death' warning to anyone who has had MRNA Covid jabs in the last two years.

New research shows that anyone jabbed with MRNA are at an increased risk of dying for up to two years after the jab. Actually there is no time limit.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/health/experts-issue-urgent-death-warning-30775266#

Not sure what’s worse, believing junk studies, or just making up your own interpretations of one’s that don’t support your claims.

[Baker Boy 1,694]

57 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Not sure what’s worse, believing junk studies, or just making up your own interpretations of one’s that don’t support your claims.

Why don’t you tell us because you do them both?

[lickin_starfish 1,917]

I bet Timmy doesn't get the new updated shot, and comes up with a bullschit Tweeter study as to why he doesn't need it.

[TimHauck 2,714]

45 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Why don’t you tell us because you do them both?

I don’t.  But I’d say blatantly misrepresenting studies is worse.

[Baker Boy 1,694]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I don’t.  But I’d say blatantly misrepresenting studies is worse.

And that is the one you do the most.

[lickin_starfish 1,917]

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[TimHauck 2,714]

16 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

And that is the one you do the most.

Link?

[Ultra Max Power 214]

19 hours ago, TimHauck said:

"More at risk" compared to earlier covid variants supposedly, is that all you were saying?  They were not comparing vaccines to natural immunity (edit: or to not being vaccinated)

So really what they are saying is that the BA2.86 is the most contagious version of covid to date.  Omicron went right through vaccine protections with some studies even showing the Bivalent booster to offer no protection against an Omicron infection. We also know the longer since your last jab or infection the "lower" your protection is. Nearly every infection over the last year has been a breakthrough infection. 

So why even make the statement that highlights its more capable in people who have received covid shots or had a prior infection if the whole point is that it's a more infectious variant overall with more mutations.  The CDC has done just a horrible job in tracking infection rates for all the different forms of protections out there.

There have also been comments that the current vaccine booster coming out won't stop infections against this BA2.86.... but of course everyone needs to get it.

[TimHauck 2,714]

More proof MTG (and the Daily Mail, apparently) don't know how to read

 

 

 

[TimHauck 2,714]

17 hours ago, Ultra Max Power said:

So really what they are saying is that the BA2.86 is the most contagious version of covid to date.  Omicron went right through vaccine protections with some studies even showing the Bivalent booster to offer no protection against an Omicron infection. We also know the longer since your last jab or infection the "lower" your protection is. Nearly every infection over the last year has been a breakthrough infection. 

So why even make the statement that highlights its more capable in people who have received covid shots or had a prior infection if the whole point is that it's a more infectious variant overall with more mutations.  The CDC has done just a horrible job in tracking infection rates for all the different forms of protections out there.

Yeah, I agree it would've been better to just say it's more infectious overall.  But that doesn't change the fact that's all they were saying.   I believe it's still technically Omicron.   Of course, not surprised the usual suspects like Nurse John Campbell are trying to twist it to mean taking the vaccine makes you more susceptible to it.

   

[Ultra Max Power 214]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah, I agree it would've been better to just say it's more infectious overall.  But that doesn't change the fact that's all they were saying.   I believe it's still technically Omicron.   Of course, not surprised the usual suspects like Nurse John Campbell are trying to twist it to mean taking the vaccine makes you more susceptible to it.

   

But the problem is the CDC didn't say that when they could have. They own the message and felt like they needed to include that variable. 

There are some working theories with data that shows the vaccinated catch covid more often and take a longer time to clear the virus. If this really is a more transmissable variant, I think we'll see if that theory is true or false this fall/winter.

The CDC wants to lump vaccinated immunity in the same category as natural immunity when there is a difference and never like to show their work how each is doing vs the other.

 

[TimHauck 2,714]

4 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said:

But the problem is the CDC didn't say that when they could have. They own the message and felt like they needed to include that variable. 

There are some working theories with data that shows the vaccinated catch covid more often and take a longer time to clear the virus. If this really is a more transmissable variant, I think we'll see if that theory is true or false this fall/winter.

The CDC wants to lump vaccinated immunity in the same category as natural immunity when there is a difference and never like to show their work how each is doing vs the other.

 

I'm not following.  You think the CDC was trying to admit that the vax makes you more susceptible than not being vaxxed without actually saying it? 

There is not actual data that the vaccinated catch it more often.  There is one graph in a Cleveland Clinic study that literally also claims the Bivalent booster was 30% effective at preventing infection.

Vaccine vs. natural immunity is mostly irrelevant at this point, because most people with vaccine immunity also have natural immunity.   And no there is no evidence that getting the vaccine somehow prevents you from having natural immunity after you get infected.

[Ultra Max Power 214]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I'm not following.  You think the CDC was trying to admit that the vax makes you more susceptible than not being vaxxed without actually saying it? 

There is not actual data that the vaccinated catch it more often.  There is one graph in a Cleveland Clinic study that literally also claims the Bivalent booster was 30% effective at preventing infection.

Vaccine vs. natural immunity is mostly irrelevant at this point, because most people with vaccine immunity also have natural immunity.   And no there is no evidence that getting the vaccine somehow prevents you from having natural immunity after you get infected.

I think its a possibility.  The CDC added the distinction on its own.  If no distinction was needed, they would have no reason to phrase it that way.  If this is the most infectious variant to date for everyone, just say it like that.

The Cleveland clinic study was actual data, so I don't know why you dismiss it.  The anecdotal data i've experienced in my life show the same.  Where I work, my family and social groups... I see the people with more vaccines catch covid more often.  So while I'll agree its not proof and only a theory, I almost expect to see that trend continue over time.  

The difference between vaccinated and natural immunity appears to be the presence of IgG4 which is outlined in this paper.

Class switch towards spike protein-specific IgG4 antibodies after SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination depends on prior infection history | Scientific Reports (nature.com)

Then Dr. John Campbell in the below video discusses how IgG4 may reduce immunity.  

CDC, increased infection risk in vaccinated - YouTube

So I believe its premature to slam the door shut that there aren't legs to this theory when there is research to be done.   

 

[TimHauck 2,714]

10 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said:

I think its a possibility.  The CDC added the distinction on its own.  If no distinction was needed, they would have no reason to phrase it that way.  If this is the most infectious variant to date for everyone, just say it like that.

The Cleveland clinic study was actual data, so I don't know why you dismiss it.  The anecdotal data i've experienced in my life show the same.  Where I work, my family and social groups... I see the people with more vaccines catch covid more often.  So while I'll agree its not proof and only a theory, I almost expect to see that trend continue over time.  

The difference between vaccinated and natural immunity appears to be the presence of IgG4 which is outlined in this paper.

Class switch towards spike protein-specific IgG4 antibodies after SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination depends on prior infection history | Scientific Reports (nature.com)

Then Dr. John Campbell in the below video discusses how IgG4 may reduce immunity.  

CDC, increased infection risk in vaccinated - YouTube

So I believe its premature to slam the door shut that there aren't legs to this theory when there is research to be done.   

 

Your first paragraph is tinfoil hat nonsense.

 I dismissed it because the same study found the bivalent booster to be 30% effective against infection, which is the exact opposite of “more shots, more infections.”

I’m not “slamming the door shut,” just accurately stating that there is not data to support it.  The IgG4 stuff is a theory, not data.

I take it you missed where Nurse John Campbell was proven to be a liar and deliberately submitted a false report to the vaccine adverse event reporting system?

[Casual Observer 597]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Your first paragraph is tinfoil hat nonsense.

 I dismissed it because the same study found the bivalent booster to be 30% effective against infection, which is the exact opposite of “more shots, more infections.”

I’m not “slamming the door shut,” just accurately stating that there is not data to support it.  The IgG4 stuff is a theory, not data.

I take it you missed where Nurse John Campbell was proven to be a liar and deliberately submitted a false report to the vaccine adverse event reporting system?

Um, Tim.  You've been proven to be a liar.  Why are you still here babbling about vaccines?

[Ultra Max Power 214]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Your first paragraph is tinfoil hat nonsense.

 I dismissed it because the same study found the bivalent booster to be 30% effective against infection, which is the exact opposite of “more shots, more infections.”

I’m not “slamming the door shut,” just accurately stating that there is not data to support it.  The IgG4 stuff is a theory, not data.

I take it you missed where Nurse John Campbell was proven to be a liar and deliberately submitted a false report to the vaccine adverse event reporting system?

The bivalent booster was effective against infection for like 8 weeks.  30% sounds right to me. 

A theory based on data.

And I know you have an issue with a John Campbell. I missed that claim.  I assume you also dismiss every claim made by anyone who lied or mislead during the covid fiasco?  The heads of the CDC and NIH were proven liars during this who thing. 

Its fine you want to look the other way here.  I'm happy being unvaccinated and not worrying about catching covid.  

[Ultra Max Power 214]

2 minutes ago, Casual Observer said:

Um, Tim.  You've been proven to be a liar.  Why are you still here babbling about vaccines?

easier to attack the messenger than the message.  

[lickin_starfish 1,917]

https://files.catbox.moe/jcgmrq.mp4

[Cloaca du jour 2,148]

I got the rona right now.  3rd time.  My work had  to call higher ups about protocols.  5 days off so I dont go back till monday.  Have a croupy cough and lost my sense of smell and taste again.  Mild fever a couple days.

 

Had to pay 10 dollars to buy a test.

[TimHauck 2,714]

13 hours ago, Ultra Max Power said:

The bivalent booster was effective against infection for like 8 weeks.  30% sounds right to me. 

A theory based on data.

And I know you have an issue with a John Campbell. I missed that claim.  I assume you also dismiss every claim made by anyone who lied or mislead during the covid fiasco?  The heads of the CDC and NIH were proven liars during this who thing. 

Its fine you want to look the other way here.  I'm happy being unvaccinated and not worrying about catching covid.  

I've called out the CDC, but they don't do what Campbell does.   The CDC has definitely pushed some crap studies, mostly about masks.   But Campbell deliberately misrepresents studies and claims they say things that they don't.   The worst Walensky/Fauci have done was say "you won't get covid if you get vaccinated."   As the racist liar below you's link points out, in nearly all of Fauci in particular's interviews he was very clear to say how they were 94-95% effective.   I believe that one quote was the only time he made a definitive statement like that, yes that was wrong, but I don't think I'd agree that they "lied during the whole thing."

 

13 hours ago, Ultra Max Power said:

easier to attack the messenger than the message.  

Very easy to attack his message too.   Her voice and hand gestures are super annoying, but Susan Oliver does a pretty good job at it.

 

 

 

 

This guy at least adds some humor usually:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[seafoam1 2,912]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I've called out the CDC, but they don't do what Campbell does.   The CDC has definitely pushed some crap studies, mostly about masks.   But Campbell deliberately misrepresents studies and claims they say things that they don't.   The worst Walensky/Fauci have done was say "you won't get covid if you get vaccinated."   As the racist liar below you's link points out, in nearly all of Fauci in particular's interviews he was very clear to say how they were 94-95% effective.   I believe that one quote was the only time he made a definitive statement like that, yes that was wrong, but I don't think I'd agree that they "lied during the whole thing."

 

Very easy to attack his message too.   Her voice and hand gestures are super annoying, but Susan Oliver does a pretty good job at it.

 

 

 

 

This guy at least adds some humor usually:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He'll just continue whining and being wrong in another thread about the same shlt. 

54 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

OK last one and then I'm really done.   LOL that you think people getting accused of crimes they didn't commit is actually good for them.  GTFOH.

 

[RogerDodger 797]

 

 

[TimHauck 2,714]

46 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

 

 

You’re about 3 years late to this meme.

And the Amish did see an increase in all cause mortality during the pandemic, so it’s wrong.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8195242/

[RogerDodger 797]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

You’re about 3 years late to this meme.

And the Amish did see an increase in all cause mortality during the pandemic, so it’s wrong.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8195242/

Completely missed the point.  Shocker.  

[TimHauck 2,714]

30 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Completely missed the point.  Shocker.  

What was the point? Because it DID affect them, even though they don’t have TV

[lickin_starfish 1,917]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

What was the point? Because it DID affect them, even though they don’t have TV

Debunked.

[TimHauck 2,714]

1 minute ago, lickin_starfish said:

Debunked.

I definitely picture you as someone that's a fan of Steve Kirsch's made up surveys

[TimHauck 2,714]

On 8/28/2023 at 7:03 PM, TimHauck said:

Link?

Bump for @Baker Boy

[lod001 1,344]

Yeah, some of us knew from the get go that it was a massive experiment. The weak virus was unleashed and a mass propaganda campaign of fear was introduced to get the sheeple to comply. 

She forgot to mention the pure saline vials that were administered.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-01/melbourne-deepdene-saline-pfizer-covid-vaccine-injection-mistake/100506516

The only 'mix up' was that someone found out it was saline.

Oh, this one is news to me in SC: Yep, pfizer. https://www.live5news.com/2021/06/28/very-limited-number-saline-only-covid-vaccines-accidentally-given-health-dept-says/

Oops again in Canada: yep, pfizer. https://globalnews.ca/news/8469394/swph-saline-solution-covid-19-vaccine-st-thomas-mistake/ 

I knew of the AU and one in VA with J&J. The others, I just found now via google. That's a lot of so called 'mistakes'. 4 different places? Reality: Lots of vials contained pure saline. If you are lucky, you got one of those.

 

[Strike 5,380]

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-ivermectin-fda-doctors-lawsuit-bbc8d4fc726c08940ae4b0dad70170e0

[TimHauck 2,714]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-ivermectin-fda-doctors-lawsuit-bbc8d4fc726c08940ae4b0dad70170e0

It was stupid to call it horse paste, but it still doesn’t work for Covid 

[Strike 5,380]

Gee, remember when a bunch of us were saying it was idiotic to close the schools but the libs and teacher's unions were saying we HAD TO?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/college-students-struggling-basic-math-many-stuck-9th-grade-level-professors-blame-pandemic

 

[Strike 5,380]

4 hours ago, TimHauck said:

It was stupid to call it horse paste, but it still doesn’t work for Covid 

That's really not the point of the article, but hey keep up with your talking points!!!!  Good foot soldier you are!!!!

[TimHauck 2,714]

36 minutes ago, Strike said:

That's really not the point of the article, but hey keep up with your talking points!!!!  Good foot soldier you are!!!!

The fact that it doesn’t work isn’t the point of the article (I was just adding that for clarity), but the FDA calling it horse medicine is:

 

The ruling acknowledged FDA’s receiving reports of some people requiring hospitalization after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for livestock. But the ruling said the campaign — which at times featured the slogan “You are not a horse!” — too often left out that the drug is sometimes prescribed for humans. 

The doctors can proceed with their lawsuit contending that the FDA’s campaign exceeded the agency’s authority under federal law, the ruling said. 

“FDA is not a physician. It has authority to inform, announce, and apprise—but not to endorse, denounce, or advise,”

[TimHauck 2,714]

 

 

[TimHauck 2,714]

Which post is yours @Ultra Max Power?

 

 

[Ultra Max Power 214]

20 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Which post is yours @Ultra Max Power?

 

 

What?

 

[seafoam1 2,912]

1 minute ago, Ultra Max Power said:

What?

 

I"ll translate. "I'm a nutcase".

Timhack is hurting. Be gentle with him. 

[Ultra Max Power 214]

5 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

I"ll translate. "I'm a nutcase".

Timhack is hurting. Be gentle with him. 

Yeah, I don't get it.  I cite Dr. campbell and he's got a grudge against that dude, so he posts a bunch of videos from some crazy cat lady who "debunks" him.  Her channel looks like a John Campbell obsession cite.  

Crazy part is that he takes a bigger issue with a youtube personality who may get some facts wrong, but at the same time defends the CDC/Fauci who PURPOSELY lied, got facts wrong and pushed bogus studies.