shorepatrol 1,870 Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Patriotsfatboy1 said: He lost the popular vote in 2016 too. The electoral college is what matters and Biden won in a “landslide” Yep. You're about to get what you voted for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, shorepatrol said: Yep. You're about to get what you voted for. I hope he is as good as the last 2 Dems who were in the WH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted January 18, 2021 81 million. “Some fraud”. I hope you people know how stupid you sound. I’m a conspiracy nut for questioning 81 million votes for one guy, never mind that guy? If it was 76 million to 75 million I’d say ok, that’s reasonable. But 81 million? Please. When you factor in Trump got more votes this time than last, and he got more black and Latino his time, it just doesn’t add up. I know, that’s nutty thinking right there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Patriotsfatboy1 said: I hope he is as good as the last 2 Dems who were in the WH. We can't be friends Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, shorepatrol said: We can't be friends Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted January 18, 2021 How come “ voter suppression (myth)” is unacceptable and an assault on our democracy, but “some” fraud is acceptable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted January 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: 81 million. “Some fraud”. I hope you people know how stupid you sound. I’m a conspiracy nut for questioning 81 million votes for one guy, never mind that guy? If it was 76 million to 75 million I’d say ok, that’s reasonable. But 81 million? Please. When you factor in Trump got more votes this time than last, and he got more black and Latino his time, it just doesn’t add up. I know, that’s nutty thinking right there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted January 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: 81 million. “Some fraud”. I hope you people know how stupid you sound. I’m a conspiracy nut for questioning 81 million votes for one guy, never mind that guy? If it was 76 million to 75 million I’d say ok, that’s reasonable. But 81 million? Please. When you factor in Trump got more votes this time than last, and he got more black and Latino his time, it just doesn’t add up. I know, that’s nutty thinking right there. Yet, all of the states completed their certifications, including those in “red” states, and it all adds up to 306 for Biden. Challenges in court had even Republican appointees rejecting those challenges. It seems like there is nothing that would convince you, including the 3 recounts in GA. That makes you nutty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Patriotsfatboy1 said: Yet, all of the states completed their certifications, including those in “red” states, and it all adds up to 306 for Biden. Challenges in court had even Republican appointees rejecting those challenges. It seems like there is nothing that would convince you, including the 3 recounts in GA. That makes you nutty. I don’t say Trump won, did I? I’m questioning the spread. Not nutty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gutterboys Flip Flops 110 Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I don’t say Trump won, did I? I’m questioning the spread. Not nutty. I get your point. Trump gained all over the place, yet Joe, this Joe Biden, who didn't campaign got 81 million legal votes. It is hard to comprehend. Where did all these magical votes come from? But I guess he did. The states certified. No further discussion needed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gutterboys Flip Flops said: I get your point. Trump gained all over the place, yet Joe, this Joe Biden, who didn't campaign got 81 million legal votes. It is hard to comprehend. Where did all these magical votes come from? But I guess he did. The states certified. Well, when a mommy vote and a daddy vote love each other very much ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted January 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Gutterboys Flip Flops said: I get your point. Trump gained all over the place, yet Joe, this Joe Biden, who didn't campaign got 81 million legal votes. It is hard to comprehend. Where did all these magical votes come from? But I guess he did. The states certified. No further discussion needed. Seriously, Biden winning is totally believable. It was going to be a close election, so why couldn’t he win? But 81 million? You have to laugh when you say it if you have a clue. The odds on that happening are through the roof. But you’re a nut to question it. Ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted January 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I don’t say Trump won, did I? I’m questioning the spread. Not nutty. Well, there were questions posed at the state and Federal court levels. All of the numbers show Biden winning by 7m votes. I know you can’t fathom it, but it doesn’t make it untrue or part of something rigged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gutterboys Flip Flops 110 Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: Seriously, Biden winning is totally believable. It was going to be a close election, so why couldn’t he win? But 81 million? You have to laugh when you say it if you have a clue. The odds on that happening at through the roof. But you’re a nut to question it. Ok. How could you not have faith in an un-tested mass mail in system that solely benefited the party who pushed, sued and went against the constitution to make it happen ? Im sorry but i think you may need some more tin foil for that hat my friend. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gutterboys Flip Flops said: How could you not have faith in an un-tested mass mail in system that solely benefited the party who pushed, sued and went against the constitution to make it happen ? Im sorry but i think you may need some more tin foil for that hat my friend. I know. Q tells me what to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted January 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: Well, there were questions posed at the state and Federal court levels. All of the numbers show Biden winning by 7m votes. I know you can’t fathom it, but it doesn’t make it untrue or part of something rigged. No, I can’t fathom it. Most stuff that makes zero sense is unfathomable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,246 Posted January 18, 2021 Thankfully......THIS election seems to be acceptable to the Democrats, suddenly we magically have a valid election so ....yay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted January 18, 2021 Yeah, black people were totally pumped for Biden in a few cities, but not so much in others. Blacks in Cleveland and Detroit don’t share the same concerns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,687 Posted January 18, 2021 56 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yeah, black people were totally pumped for Biden in a few cities, but not so much in others. Blacks in Cleveland and Detroit don’t share the same concerns. The results make sense insomuch that Harris would've known which battle ground states were up for grabs and would've focused campaign efforts there. That's the mistake Hillary made. She thought Trump was a layup, the polling numbers reinforced that, and she didn't campaign hard in the right places. I still believe there was fraud. Maybe not enough to swing the election, but the results are plausible in my eyes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,687 Posted January 18, 2021 Black people getting behind the Harris campaign made no sense though. Biden is very obviously racist. He lets it slip constantly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted January 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, nobody said: Black people getting behind the Harris campaign made no sense though. Biden is very obviously racist. He lets it slip constantly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,687 Posted January 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said: Of course, you're confused. Biden says black people aren't diverse (unlike hispanic) You're not black if you vote for Trump The first mainstream african american that is articulate and clean and bright. (Speaking about Obama) Can't go to 7-11 or a donut shop without an Indian accent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted January 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, nobody said: Of course, you're confused. Biden says black people aren't diverse (unlike hispanic) You're not black if you vote for Trump The first mainstream african american that is articulate and clean and bright. (Speaking about Obama) Can't go to 7-11 or a donut shop without an Indian accent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,101 Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: Well, there were questions posed at the state and Federal court levels. All of the numbers show Biden winning by 7m votes. I know you can’t fathom it, but it doesn’t make it untrue or part of something rigged. Do you think states should have suspended mail in ballot signature verification and do you think the state courts had the authority to allow it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted January 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: Do you think states should have suspended mail in ballot signature verification and do you think the state courts had the authority to allow it? I believe that states have the right to set their voting rules and that their courts have the right to rule on it based on their state Constitutions. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,101 Posted January 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: I believe that states have the right to set their voting rules and that their courts have the right to rule on it based on their state Constitutions. Ok so that’s not what happened. The legislatures did not set the rules the courts did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted January 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: I believe that states have the right to set their voting rules and that their courts have the right to rule on it based on their state Constitutions. They only about it because it didn't favor them. They'd be oh so for it if it did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: Ok so that’s not what happened. The legislatures did not set the rules the courts did. Now did that happen in all states or just the states Trump lost? See, I think you might not have all of the facts and you are taking you talking points from the “Stop the Steal” handbook, which has been debunked by even Republicans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted January 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said: They only about it because it didn't favor them. They'd be oh so for it if it did. Like in 2016 when Trump won in a “landslide” despite losing the popular vote? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted January 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: Like in 2016 when Trump won in a “landslide” despite losing the popular vote? Yessir! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,246 Posted January 18, 2021 38 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said: They only about it because it didn't favor them. They'd be oh so for it if it did. Irony..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted January 18, 2021 9 hours ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: Now did that happen in all states or just the states Trump lost? See, I think you might not have all of the facts and you are taking you talking points from the “Stop the Steal” handbook, which has been debunked by even Republicans. “Even republicans!”. My favorite. Lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted January 18, 2021 10 hours ago, Rusty Syringes said: I don't truly believe that Biden is racist. Maybe at some point he was like when he opposed school desegregation, but that was probably more about supporting his white supporters than anything. But look, he's old, and old white people say things that are construed as racist by many people today. Trump is the same way. The problem is that these people call Trump a white supremacist, but then they brush off Biden saying the same sh!t. Hypocrisy at it's highest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,101 Posted January 18, 2021 10 hours ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: Now did that happen in all states or just the states Trump lost? See, I think you might not have all of the facts and you are taking you talking points from the “Stop the Steal” handbook, which has been debunked by even Republicans. You want to discuss facts? Do your research. One of many sources Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted January 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: The problem is that these people call Trump a white supremacist, but then they brush off Biden saying the same sh!t. Hypocrisy at it's highest. every time the democrats start losing the national conversation, they resort to offering free stuff to people and claiming the republicans want to take free stuff away from the poor. it gets to the point where people will accept any hypocrisy to avoid getting labelled a scrooge. people fear being a social outcast more than death itself. eventually people surrender all their rights to a dictator and the nation destabilizes and goes bananas. its an ancient game. as old as history itself. the democrats are destabilizing the US. the twist is that this is first time humans are playing this game with a nation with enough nukes to destroy the planet, so there's that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gutterboys Flip Flops 110 Posted January 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: You want to discuss facts? Do your research. One of many sources Unfortunately they don't want to discuss facts. They know they can't. You're supposed to ignore all facts, all anomalies, all witnesses, everything. You need to trust this un-tested system of mass mail in voting. Scrutiny and review are not to be tolerated. Those views and actions are for past elections, this one was clean. The silent majority were not Trump supporters this go around. Do not believe your eyes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted January 18, 2021 10 hours ago, Rusty Syringes said: They only about it because it didn't favor them. They'd be oh so for it if it did. The irony is heavy here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted January 18, 2021 Voter suppression is evil. Voter fraud is ok. Same result, but one does not matter for some reason. Say voter suppression isn’t real, you’re a racist denying POC their vote. Say voter fraud is real, you’re a racist denying POC their vote. Nice work if you can get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,101 Posted January 18, 2021 Just now, Gutterboys Flip Flops said: Unfortunately they don't want to discuss facts. They know they can't. You're supposed to ignore all facts, all anomalies, all witnesses, everything. You need to trust this un-tested system of mass mail in voting. Scrutiny and review are not to be tolerated. Those views and actions are for past elections, this one was clean. The silent majority were not Trump supporters this go around. Do not believe your eyes. It’s just incredibly lazy and dumb to brush this off as “talking points”. Don’t get me wrong. I 100% blame the Republican legislatures for letting this happen. Who thought no signature verification was a good freaking idea? In GA the courts did away with residency rules and Stacey Abrams sister was the judge who ruled on the decision! In an election where we saw historically high mail in voting, we also saw historically low ballot rejection rates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted January 18, 2021 And no matter how many times you say Biden will be the next president, you’re not looking to overturn anything, it doesn’t matter to them. Just saying you want elections going forward to be clean is dismissed. Why? Because they know. And they know the fraud benefited them, and will benefit them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites