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7 minutes ago, jrokh said:

What about it will make a difference? Seems like the same stuff to me. Probably will get a 4-6 game suspension either way. Not sure what this video offers that changes the status quo…

I can't imagine more people thinking he's some sort of sexual predator is good for the NFL or the Browns but it very well may not make a difference in his suspension

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27 minutes ago, polecatt said:

I can't imagine more people thinking he's some sort of sexual predator is good for the NFL or the Browns but it very well may not make a difference in his suspension

Meh we already knew he was a creep.

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18 minutes ago, jrokh said:

Meh we already knew he was a creep.

What did he do?

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29 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

What did he do?

Creepy stuff with women. Doesn’t make him guilty of anything from a legal standpoint, but I wouldn’t let my daughter go on a date with him. Would you?

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3 hours ago, jrokh said:

Creepy stuff with women. Doesn’t make him guilty of anything from a legal standpoint, but I wouldn’t let my daughter go on a date with him. Would you?

I think you know the answer to that.

the scary thing is people are talking like hes the only pro football player doing this stuff.   I guarantee he is not.

Rothlisberger had an incident at a strip club a few years back.   I'm pretty sure not all the facts came out of that one.   lots of guys have done stuff.  and I"m sure in his mind, the only thing he did wrong was he got caught.

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4 hours ago, jrokh said:

Creepy stuff with women. Doesn’t make him guilty of anything from a legal standpoint, but I wouldn’t let my daughter go on a date with him. Would you?

Why didn't you share your evidence with the prosecutor before the trial?

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10 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Why didn't you share your evidence with the prosecutor before the trial?

There is a difference between evidence of a crime and one who acts like a creep. It would probably benefit you to learn the difference, but if you want to wallow in ignorance, so be it…

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6 hours ago, jrokh said:

There is a difference between evidence of a crime and one who acts like a creep. It would probably benefit you to learn the difference, but if you want to wallow in ignorance, so be it…

I never hung out with the guy. How do I know how he acts? I didn't realize you spent that much time with him. 

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1 hour ago, Ray_T said:

I think you know the answer to that.

the scary thing is people are talking like hes the only pro football player doing this stuff.   I guarantee he is not.

Rothlisberger had an incident at a strip club a few years back.   I'm pretty sure not all the facts came out of that one.   lots of guys have done stuff.  and I"m sure in his mind, the only thing he did wrong was he got caught.

Agreed about the only wrong was getting caught. 

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Oh, boy..  The Judge in TX ordered Deshaun to .. reveal his body count:

The Texas judge in Deshaun Watson's civil case has ruled he must "answer whether he had sex with 18 additional therapists who came to his defense about his massage habits last year."

The attorneys for the 22 women suing Watson have sought the information because they believe it will "help show Watson’s pattern and motives in seeking massages with dozens of different women, many of whom he met on social media." Watson had previously refused such requests. He now has no choice. It's a reminder that Watson is nowhere close to out of the woods with his legal problems even though a Harris County, Texas grand jury declined to recommend criminal charges. It was unwise of the Browns to make such a big move before Watson had truly settled all his outstanding issues. 

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Oh boy.  

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3 hours ago, Bills04 said:

Oh, boy..  The Judge in TX ordered Deshaun to .. reveal his body count:

The Texas judge in Deshaun Watson's civil case has ruled he must "answer whether he had sex with 18 additional therapists who came to his defense about his massage habits last year."

The attorneys for the 22 women suing Watson have sought the information because they believe it will "help show Watson’s pattern and motives in seeking massages with dozens of different women, many of whom he met on social media." Watson had previously refused such requests. He now has no choice. It's a reminder that Watson is nowhere close to out of the woods with his legal problems even though a Harris County, Texas grand jury declined to recommend criminal charges. It was unwise of the Browns to make such a big move before Watson had truly settled all his outstanding issues. 

I dont know why they are asking James.  why dont they ask the massage girls?

Though it is possible they were already given significant compensation to help him out.   This story just gets more and more weird.  Not that it wasnt strange to begin with.

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If I was Watson, being paid Mahomes money to root from the couch, I'd want to drag this out as long as possible too.

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1 hour ago, AxeElf said:

If I was Watson, being paid Mahomes money to root from the couch, I'd want to drag this out as long as possible too.

It would be prudent for the team to have an out clause in the event this thing blows up.

that said, teams do some stupid stuff.   maybe there isnt one.  even so. if hes suspended by the league, the team does not have to pay him (that is my understanding)

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18 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

if hes suspended by the league, the team does not have to pay him (that is my understanding)

This is true, but Watson or more like his agents structured his contract in such a way that he will only make around 1 million in base salary this year, and that is the part that he will lose from suspension. In other words say he gets suspended this year for 8 games he will only forfeit around 500 Grand of his 230 million guaranteed…

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2 hours ago, jrokh said:

This is true, but Watson or more like his agents structured his contract in such a way that he will only make around 1 million in base salary this year, and that is the part that he will lose from suspension. In other words say he gets suspended this year for 8 games he will only forfeit around 500 Grand of his 230 million guaranteed…

smart move on the agents part.  he earned his cash.  well, hopefully the team still has an out in the event it turns ugly but thats their problem.  not mine.

a smart team would put those clauses into a contract. but i am the first to admit, not all teams are smart.

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