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2 hours ago, wiffleball said:

Crap. Russians using hypersonics now. 

 

Not a good development

They're digging their own graves by turning cities into rubble, giving Ukers ideal hiding places for them to sneak around and pick off Russians one soldier and one tank at a time. 

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Heard an interesting perspective. Big question going around is why didn't Putin invade while Trump was in office.  one perspective states he didnt you need to; He was well on his way to seeing NATO Fall Apart. Trump really wanted to pull out of NATO. Almost did 2018, but he was damn near forcibly restrained from doing so by his National Security team & Congress on both sides. If he had been reelected, he absolutely would have pulled out of NATO. Achieving putins desired goal. But with Biden elected, he had to go to plan B. 

And that's absolutely backfiring. Germany and others upping up spending. Previously neutral countries ramping up, arms flowing into bordering countries. 

He may get Ukraine. Or some version thereof. He may keep them out of NATO. But in the end, he's getting the opposite of what he wanted. A stronger, more United NATO.

 

I dunno, but seems pretty valid. 

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27 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

They're digging their own graves by turning cities into rubble, giving Ukers ideal hiding places for them to sneak around and pick off Russians one soldier and one tank at a time. 

Yeah, this is awesome news for the Ukrainians.   :rolleyes: Oofff...:doh:

Russia says it used hypersonic missiles in Ukraine for first time

The aeroballistic missiles destroyed a large underground warehouse containing missiles and aviation ammunition, defence ministry says.

“The Kinzhal aviation missile system with hypersonic aeroballistic missiles destroyed a large underground warehouse containing missiles and aviation ammunition in the village of Deliatyn in the Ivano-Frankivsk region,” defence ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov said on Saturday.

The region of Ivano-Frankivsk shares a 50km (30 miles) long border with NATO member Romania.

The ministry also said Russian forces used the anti-ship missile system Bastion to destroy Ukrainian military facilities near the Black Sea port of Odesa.

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4 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Heard an interesting perspective. Big question going around is why didn't Putin in babe while Trump was in office for tomorrow in one perspective states did you need to. He was well on his way to seeing NATO Fall Apart. Trump really wanted to pull out of NATO. Almost did 2018, but he was damn near forcibly restrained from doing so by his National Security team & Congress on both sides. If he had been reelected, cuz I absolutely would have pulled out of NATO. Achieving putins desired goal. But with Biden elected, he had to go to plan B. 

And that's absolutely backfiring. Germany and others upping up spending. Previously neutral countries ramping up, arms flowing into bordering countries. 

 

I dunno, but seems pretty valid. 

Correct. Trump had things in control, and then liberals voted in Biden and now the world is a focking mess. 

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19 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

They're digging their own graves by turning cities into rubble, giving Ukers ideal hiding places for them to sneak around and pick off Russians one soldier and one tank at a time. 

The only advantage Russian razing of cities gives Ukraine is that it will help rally support for their side.  

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7 minutes ago, nobody said:

The only advantage Russian razing of cities gives Ukraine is that it will help rally support for their side.  

And too little too late. 

That's biden's MO. 

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35 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Heard an interesting perspective. Big question going around is why didn't Putin invade while Trump was in office.  one perspective states he didnt you need to; He was well on his way to seeing NATO Fall Apart. Trump really wanted to pull out of NATO. Almost did 2018, but he was damn near forcibly restrained from doing so by his National Security team & Congress on both sides. If he had been reelected, he absolutely would have pulled out of NATO. Achieving putins desired goal. But with Biden elected, he had to go to plan B. 

And that's absolutely backfiring. Germany and others upping up spending. Previously neutral countries ramping up, arms flowing into bordering countries. 

He may get Ukraine. Or some version thereof. He may keep them out of NATO. But in the end, he's getting the opposite of what he wanted. A stronger, more United NATO.

 

I dunno, but seems pretty valid. 

You are right...The previous guy was doing what Putin wanted anyway...now the US is still in NATO so Putin is trying to take Ukraine by force to keep NATO out and he is drawing far more attention to himself, strengthening NATO, and most likely signing his own ticket out of the job when this all goes south. 

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The Ukraine president needs to surrender. Hes the one with blood on his hands. Totally over played his cards and the people are suffering.

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Just now, Cdub100 said:

The Ukraine president needs to surrender. Hes the one with blood on his hands. Totally over played his cards and the people are suffering.

He is definitely a big part of the equation in the Ukrainians suffering so much.  

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1 hour ago, wiffleball said:

Heard an interesting perspective. Big question going around is why didn't Putin invade while Trump was in office.  one perspective states he didnt you need to; He was well on his way to seeing NATO Fall Apart. Trump really wanted to pull out of NATO. Almost did 2018, but he was damn near forcibly restrained from doing so by his National Security team & Congress on both sides. If he had been reelected, he absolutely would have pulled out of NATO. Achieving putins desired goal. But with Biden elected, he had to go to plan B. 

And that's absolutely backfiring. Germany and others upping up spending. Previously neutral countries ramping up, arms flowing into bordering countries. 

He may get Ukraine. Or some version thereof. He may keep them out of NATO. But in the end, he's getting the opposite of what he wanted. A stronger, more United NATO.

 

I dunno, but seems pretty valid. 

Sure. Asking the NATO countries to pay their agreed upon amounts was going to cause NATO to crumble. The same NATO countries that live off of Russian oil and gas. Surprised it took this long to come up with this bullshit. And by the way, Fock NATO. They ripped us of for decades and laughed while doing it. But the military industrial complex was good with the arrangement.  Until Trump called BS. Ridiculous. And you heard that from Max Brooks last night. Don’t listen to Max Brooks. 

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10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Sure. Asking the NATO countries to pay their agreed upon amounts was going to cause NATO to crumble. The same NATO countries that live off of Russian oil and gas. Surprised it took this long to come up with this bullshit. And by the way, Fock NATO. They ripped us of for decades and laughed while doing it. But the military industrial complex was good with the arrangement.  Until Trump called BS. Ridiculous. And you heard that from Max Brooks last night. Don’t listen to Max Brooks. 

Dunno who...

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1 hour ago, wiffleball said:

Heard an interesting perspective. Big question going around is why didn't Putin invade while Trump was in office.  one perspective states he didnt you need to; He was well on his way to seeing NATO Fall Apart. Trump really wanted to pull out of NATO. Almost did 2018, but he was damn near forcibly restrained from doing so by his National Security team & Congress on both sides. If he had been reelected, he absolutely would have pulled out of NATO. Achieving putins desired goal. But with Biden elected, he had to go to plan B. 

And that's absolutely backfiring. Germany and others upping up spending. Previously neutral countries ramping up, arms flowing into bordering countries. 

He may get Ukraine. Or some version thereof. He may keep them out of NATO. But in the end, he's getting the opposite of what he wanted. A stronger, more United NATO.

 

I dunno, but seems pretty valid. 

Spin it however you want, but the world and the U.S. was safer with Trump in office then it is since.  Except for when Trump was in office the liberals were crying but that's because they had a mental condition and still do, namely TDS.

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And NATO started paying their share in 2018. I guess Putin waited four years after the issue was settled to go in. What a bunch of horseshit. Trump weakened NATO by getting more money for NATO. Makes sense. NATO was and is weakened by being dependent on Russian energy. Trump called them out on that too. To their face. Offered to sell them oil and gas from the United States. They said no and took the better deal. And then Biden came along and sweetened the pot by giving Putin his pipeline, that Trump had denied them. Unreal. 

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The CEO of Lockheed Martin tearfully pleads for a no-fly zone. Of course he is, those planes that are shot down will have to be replaced. Guess who? 

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14 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Spin it however you want, but the world and the U.S. was safer with Trump in office then it is since.  Except for when Trump was in office the liberals were crying but that's because they had a mental condition and still do, namely TDS.

Spin it?

You don't get to pick and choose what Clownzo says. 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-seeks-rewrite-role-bolstering-ukraine-nato/story?id=83159716

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Former President Donald Trump on Monday sought to recast his administration's role in bolstering Europe's security, claiming credit for strengthening NATO and arming Ukraine's military with advanced weaponry.

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"It was Trump that undermined U.S. national security and froze military assistance to Ukraine," retired Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a former National Security Council official during the Trump administration who testified at the impeachment inquiry, told ABC News on Monday. "It was Trump's attacks on NATO and support from the far-right that encouraged Putin to believe that NATO was fragile. Trump has blood on his hands."

Clownzo loyalists bought into his downplaying of COVID then wouldn't listen to him when he finally woke up and told them to get vaccinated.

Clownzo loyalists think Putin is a swell guy after Clownzo called him a genius for the Ukraine invasion but then won't listen to the Clownzo reversal on the matter.

Now Clownzo loyalists buy into his attempt to rewrite history by taking credit for something he actually weakened during his presidency, and Putin had him eating out of his hand with the possibility of a NATO pullout. Once Clownzo got bounced, Putin went ahead with what he had been planning to do all along.

Just underscores the old saying about not biting the hand that feeds you. 

It's unbelievable what so many of you alt-righty clowns fall for.

 

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It’s amazing that the libtards are ok with funding the defense for other countries while these same countries make the guy they are being defended from rich enough to attack them, just so they can say “orange man bad”.  Sad. 

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24 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Spin it?

You don't get to pick and choose what Clownzo says. 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-seeks-rewrite-role-bolstering-ukraine-nato/story?id=83159716

Clownzo loyalists bought into his downplaying of COVID then wouldn't listen to him when he finally woke up and told them to get vaccinated.

Clownzo loyalists think Putin is a swell guy after Clownzo called him a genius for the Ukraine invasion but then won't listen to the Clownzo reversal on the matter.

Now Clownzo loyalists buy into his attempt to rewrite history by taking credit for something he actually weakened during his presidency, and Putin had him eating out of his hand with the possibility of a NATO pullout. Once Clownzo got bounced, Putin went ahead with what he had been planning to do all along.

Just underscores the old saying about not biting the hand that feeds you. 

It's unbelievable what so many of you alt-righty clowns fall for.

 

TRUMP!!!! :cry:

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2 hours ago, nobody said:

The only advantage Russian razing of cities gives Ukraine is that it will help rally support for their side.  

Ask the German 6th Army how that worked out for them at Stalingrad.

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2 hours ago, nobody said:

The only advantage Russian razing of cities gives Ukraine is that it will help rally support for their side.  

Only rusty would view a destroyed building as an advantage

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20 minutes ago, vomit said:

Only rusty would view a destroyed building as an advantage

A paranoid little rodent such as yourself would love a razed city in which to scurry around, darting from one hiding place to the next to keep your agoraphobia at bay.

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13 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

A paranoid little rodent such as yourself would love a razed city in which to scurry around, darting from one hiding place to the next to keep your agoraphobia at bay.

I can see it now, the Russians invade Texas and rusty runs around his neighborhood blowing up everyone's houses screaming "we got the right where we want them!"

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Yeah, I did some Google. Trump announced in 2016 who wanted to get of nato in 2018 he intended to do so. And pretty much all of his top defense guys are saying that or said that back in 2018 or 19 or 20 or 21. 

This isn't some talking point. It's just historical fact at this point.

 

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11 minutes ago, vomit said:

I can see it now, the Russians invade Texas and rusty runs around his neighborhood blowing up everyone's houses screaming "we got the right where we want them!"

I can see you in a cavernous gym serving as a shelter, soiling your Pokemon Underoos as the shelling gets closer and closer. It hits, and you find a safe crack in which to wriggle. The gym comes down, but you survive. And now you have infinite places to hide as the enemy pokes through the rubble in search of people to kill, only they can't find you, because you're small, crafty and able to get into places that only an altitudinally challenged person such as yourself can go. If you actually had the balls to fight for yourself and country, you'd have a bit of an advantage over an enemy that can't see where you are.

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30 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

I can see you in a cavernous gym serving as a cack sucker. And I would be a repeat customer over and over again to try to gain your love. Because I want to suck YOUR cack. My feelings are overwhelming and I can't hold back anymore. I am willing to empty my parent's bank accounts to win your love over. 

Signed, rusty. Please, I am in need.

Interesting how this is turning out...

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8 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

The Ukraine president needs to surrender. Hes the one with blood on his hands. Totally over played his cards and the people are suffering.

Would you surrender?

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5 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

If you actually had the balls to fight for yourself and country, you wouldn't be on TV begging every government that will listen to come fight for yourself and your country.

Man up, Dukakis.

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NATO intentionally expanded East.  Decisions have consequences.  Sometimes this is what they look like.

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1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

The GOP right wing whackos in 2022:

 

This Russia ain't so bad...Trump told us so.

 

Get over yourselves. 

The whacko left wing 2nd grade baby sitters in 2022:

TRUMP!!!!!   :cry:

RUSSIA!!! :cry:

 

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I think the USA should pull out of NATO.  Let those pansies in Europe defend themselves.  You don't want to invest 4% in your military.  Mmmkay.  Then don't.  

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6 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The CEO of Lockheed Martin tearfully pleads for a no-fly zone. Of course he is, those planes that are shot down will have to be replaced. Guess who? 

Mr. President, I'm pleading with you for a no-fly zone!  I need to buy a villa on the French Riviera!

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3 minutes ago, fandandy said:

NATO intentionally expanded East.  Decisions have consequences.  Sometimes this is what they look like.

This position is odd to me.  So countries can't join NATO unless Russia gives them permission?

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Just now, nobody said:

This position is odd to me.  So countries can't join NATO unless Russia gives them permission?

Europe should defend itself.  That is not an odd position.

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Just now, fandandy said:

Europe should defend itself.  That is not an odd position.

So what does that have to do with a sovereign nation wishing to join an alliance without the permission of their neighbors?

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1 minute ago, fandandy said:

How many wars should we fight in defense of Europe?

Is there a limit in your mind?

Your jumping to conclusions.  

People are trying to say Ukraine is at fault for wanting to join NATO.  Or NATO is at fault for considering Ukraine.  

All I'm saying is that's not true.  Putin is a paranoid fūck.  

That doesn't mean I'm wanting to fight a war in defense of Europe.  

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