Ukraine - Doomsday

[IGotWorms 4,058]

10 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Ukraine is one of the biggest human trafficking countries on the planet. Another word for human trafficking is slavery. They are right up there with Africa. 

Who cares as long as the rest of East Europe takes care of their own? They could make it hell for Russia if they actually wanted to participate in doing so. And what the heck is the rest of Europe doing? 

Why the US is sending so much money and supplies there makes no sense. 

What does trafficking have to do with anything here? We’re talking defense of US national security interests. That’s NATO. Taking Ukraine puts Russia right on NATO’s doorstep.

To say nothing of the broader implications. If we’re not even willing to fund Ukraine’s fight, where our own soldiers aren’t even involved and the actual risk to us is minimal, how in the hell can we be relied upon to show up and fight with American lives if a NATO ally is attacked? And why would we want to be put in that position vs funding a proxy war that requires no sacrifice of American lives?

Then there are our other allies like Japan, Korea, and Taiwan. How are they going to feel secure in our coming to their defense, when we refuse to even fund a no-brainer proxy battle for NATO security? If you’re in South America or Africa, who are you looking to for safety then? Apparently it ain’t us.

And Europe is funding it, btw. Even to a greater extent than us on a percentage of GDP basis. It just happens that we’re the richest country in the world (because we are the world leader), and so with that comes greater responsibility. The answer is not to shirk it and it’d be stupid to do so as we will NOT be the richest nation in the world if we simply cede our role as world leader to China, as MAGA apparently wants to do.

If you want to deal with trafficking then do so. That’s what the UN etc is for. Frankly it sounds like a Putin talking point to me, but if it’s a real issue it’s separate and apart from this one. Believe me Russia is not going to turn Ukraine into a bastion of human rights 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

Russia isn’t taking over Ukraine. Stop it. 

[seafoam1 3,031]

2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

What does trafficking have to do with anything here? 

We’re talking defense of US national security interests. That’s NATO. Taking Ukraine puts Russia right on NATO’s doorstep.

To say nothing of the broader implications. If we’re not even willing to fund Ukraine’s fight, where our own soldiers aren’t even involved and the actual risk to us is minimal, how in the hell can we be relied upon to show up and fight with American lives if a NATO ally is attacked? And why would we want to be put in that position vs funding a proxy war that requires no sacrifice of American lives?

Then there are our other allies like Japan, Korea, and Taiwan. How are they going to feel secure in our coming to their defense, when we refuse to even fund a no-brainer proxy battle for NATO security? If you’re in South America or Africa, who are you looking to for safety then? Apparently it ain’t us.

And Europe is funding it, btw. Even to a greater extent than us on a percentage of GDP basis. It just happens that we’re the richest country in the world (because we are the world leader), and so with that comes greater responsibility. The answer is not to shirk it and it’d be stupid to do so as we will NOT be the richest nation in the world if we simply cede our role as world leader to China, as MAGA apparently wants to do.

If you want to deal with trafficking then do so. That’s what the UN etc is for. Frankly it sounds like a Putin talking point to me, but if it’s a real issue it’s separate and apart from this one. Believe me Russia is not going to turn Ukraine into a bastion of human rights 

 

Everything. They are shlt-filled nation and Europe needs to step up but no, they know that the liberals in this country will spend and try to do their dirty work for them. 

Time to get those countries involved by telling them to step it up if they don't like it. Why does the US have to deplete our resources for that shlthole?

Oh yeah, because hunter biden needs his money to buy his coke. And 10% for the big guy. 

This country needs to focus on itself.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Everything. They are shlt-filled nation and Europe needs to step up but no, they know that the liberals in this country will spend and try to do their dirty work for them. 

Time to get those countries involved by telling them to step it up if they don't like it. Why does the US have to deplete our resources for that shlthole?

Oh yeah, because hunter biden needs his money to buy his coke. And 10% for the big guy. 

This country needs to focus on itself.

That’s a very myopic view that could well lead to our downfall. The world needs American leadership, and we benefit greatly from being the world leader. Certainly much more than if, say, China were running the show

[seafoam1 3,031]

6 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

That’s a very myopic view that could well lead to our downfall. The world needs American leadership, and we benefit greatly from being the world leader. Certainly much more than if, say, China were running the show

Yeah. "Leadership" isn't what this is. Preventing it from happening in the first place is leadership. Russia saw biden coming and took advantage. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

5 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Yeah. "Leadership" isn't what this is. Preventing it from happening in the first place is leadership. Russia saw biden coming and took advantage. 

That doesn’t even make sense. MAGA wants to cede Ukraine to Russia, Biden doesn’t

[seafoam1 3,031]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

That doesn’t even make sense. MAGA wants to cede Ukraine to Russia, Biden doesn’t

Who is MAGA? What is this pitiful reference to constantly? Can you speak English? Or no? 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

Who is MAGA? 

Weak. If you want to throw in the towel just go ahead and stop responding 

[seafoam1 3,031]

Just now, IGotWorms said:

Weak. If you want to throw in the towel just go ahead and stop responding 

Ok, then. Let's play your little game LIBTARD.

Such a fool. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

Check out this Bradley Fighting Vehicle kicking ass on a Russian tank.

 

[The Real timschochet 6,773]

18 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Russia isn’t taking over Ukraine. Stop it. 

Many Republicans in Congress want to cut off aid to Ukraine. This appears to be the attitude of the base of the Republican Party, and MAGA types in particular. 
 

I think it’s a reasonable concern that if we cut off aid it will lead to Russia conquering Ukraine. Do you agree? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Many Republicans in Congress want to cut off aid to Ukraine. This appears to be the attitude of the base of the Republican Party, and MAGA types in particular. 
 

I think it’s a reasonable concern that if we cut off aid it will lead to Russia conquering Ukraine. Do you agree? 

First of all, if they need aid right now, nato should step in.  Second, they are getting their money. But his forbid they evil republicans that love Putin and gave up the first 200 billion might want some security for our borders too. It must be racism. 

[GobbleDog 997]

3 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Check out this Bradley Fighting Vehicle kicking ass on a Russian tank

Can you imagine the sounds inside that Russian tank while being hit with all those rounds? Had to scare the ever living sh*t out of the crew. Even if the smaller rounds didn't do any major damage, it's be impossible to keep your cool under intense fire. Gives Ukraine time to deliver the final big hit destroying them.

Cool video.

 

[Baker Boy 1,699]

20 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

That doesn’t even make sense. MAGA wants to cede Ukraine to Russia, Biden doesn’t

Link

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

5 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

Can you imagine the sounds inside that Russian tank while being hit with all those rounds? Had to scare the ever living sh*t out of the crew. Even if the smaller rounds didn't do any major damage, it's be impossible to keep your cool under intense fire. Gives Ukraine time to deliver the final big hit destroying them.

Cool video.

 

There's another one I saw over the weekend but couldn't find today showing a Bradley totally focking up Russia's best tank. Tanks parts were falling off and flying everywhere before the tank just exploded. I never realized the Bradley awesomeness. I have to think the Ukrainians were laughing as they obliterated the helpless Russian tank. 

[seafoam1 3,031]

20 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

There's another one I saw over the weekend but couldn't find today showing a Bradley totally focking up Russia's best tank. Tanks parts were falling off and flying everywhere before the tank just exploded. I never realized the Bradley awesomeness. I have to think the Ukrainians were laughing as they obliterated the helpless Russian tank. 

That killing each other is awesome!! The US should keep funding it at the expense of our own citizens! AmIRight?

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

30 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

That killing each other is awesome!! The US should keep funding it at the expense of our own citizens! AmIRight?

If Ukraine can't defend itself, you think the killing will just stop?

Russia has more than shown that it's willing to kill more than Ukrainian military personnel.

If Russia took over Ukraine, horrific genocide would ensue. Regional instability would ensue. Inflation would explode, and you'd be whining like a little b!tch and blaming Biden for that.

Then embolden, Russia would go after other Baltic states, including NATO ones, and perhaps even Poland.

Clownzo has said he could end the conflict in a day. Well he should get off his fat orange ass and do it. Or enlighten the world on how it could be done so someone else could do it.

Nah, he's just saying that like he brags about other things he says he can do but can't.

Not surprising you can't see the obvious, what with your healthy daily diet of dumbass.

Back on ignore you go, chim chim.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Chechnya, Georgia, Crimea, Donbas … but I’m sure Russia will stop once they’ve got Kyiv

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

6 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Chechnya, Georgia, Crimea, Donbas … but I’m sure Russia will stop once they’ve got Kyiv

Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Ukraine. When are we gonna stop? 

[seafoam1 3,031]

26 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

If Ukraine can't defend itself, you think the killing will just stop?

Russia has more than shown that it's willing to kill more than Ukrainian military personnel.

If Russia took over Ukraine, horrific genocide would ensue. Regional instability would ensue. Inflation would explode, and you'd be whining like a little b!tch and blaming Biden for that.

Then embolden, Russia would go after other Baltic states, including NATO ones, and perhaps even Poland.

Clownzo has said he could end the conflict in a day. Well he should get off his fat orange ass and do it. Or enlighten the world on how it could be done so someone else could do it.

Nah, he's just saying that like he brags about other things he says he can do but can't.

Not surprising you can't see the obvious, what with your healthy daily diet of dumbass.

Back on ignore you go, chim chim.

The disgusting human trafficking capital of the planet isn't defending itself. The US is defending them. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

31 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Ukraine. When are we gonna stop? 

America-hating used to be a left wing thing. Man how times have changed 

[seafoam1 3,031]

3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

America-hating used to be a left wing thing. Man how times have changed 

So spending on war in Europe over spending that money on American citizens in need is America leftist loving now? 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

4 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

America-hating used to be a left wing thing. Man how times have changed 

The MAGAturd wants everyone to be MAGAturds, as long as they lockstep with the MAGAturd paradigm and don't think for themselves and have open minds to compromise and other viewpoints.

They're poisoning this country.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

5 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

America-hating used to be a left wing thing. Man how times have changed 

Oh, it’s ok when you come out against the Bush wars. Get  a grip. I was wondering, which of the oligarchs that rule over you is your favorite? Zuckerberg? Bezos? Soros? Maybe the Koch brothers? Lol.  Toady. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

14 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Oh, it’s ok when you come out against the Bush wars. Get  a grip. I was wondering, which of the oligarchs that rule over you is your favorite? Zuckerberg? Bezos? Soros? Maybe the Koch brothers? Lol.  Toady. 

Absolutely none of that makes any sense. Not one word 

[seafoam1 3,031]

16 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

The LIBTard wants everyone to be LIBTards, as long as they lockstep with the LIBTard paradigm and don't think for themselves and have open minds to compromise and other viewpoints.

They're poisoning this country.

True. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

The NATO Secretary General said there is no threat that Russia will expand beyond Ukraine. There goes that narrative. Sorry cucks. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

42 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The NATO Secretary General said there is no threat that Russia will expand beyond Ukraine. There goes that narrative. Sorry cucks. 

Explain to me how I’m the cuck here, when you’ve been down on your knees sucking Putin’s d1ck for years

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

Just now, IGotWorms said:

Explain to me how I’m the cuck here, when you’ve been down on your knees sucking Putin’s d1ck for years

You’ll have to show where I’ve done that. I do recall hoping for his assassination though. Don’t make things up. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You’ll have to show where I’ve done that. I do recall hoping for his assassination though. Don’t make things up. 

Every stance and position Trump told you to take vis-a-vis Russia, Putin, and NATO since 2016

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

11 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Every stance and position Trump told you to take vis-a-vis Russia, Putin, and NATO since 2016

Ukraine wasn’t a big issue during Trump.  Remember? NATO should pay what they agreed to pay. What’s wrong with that? Trump shutdown Putins pipeline.  Biden opened it back up.  

[thegeneral 3,214]

Mitchell making some cogent points

For those that don’t get this. Russia is an enemy whom the Ukrainians are destroying, we are giving Ukraines older equipment which is being replaced with newer items for our military being produced throughout the US, NATO ha come out of this stronger and paid into this as much as we have. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,351]

30 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Mitchell making some cogent points

For those that don’t get this. Russia is an enemy whom the Ukrainians are destroying, we are giving Ukraines older equipment which is being replaced with newer items for our military being produced throughout the US, NATO ha come out of this stronger and paid into this as much as we have. 

I love the leftist support for the war machine, good job

 

[thegeneral 3,214]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I love the leftist support for the war machine, good job

 

Ukraine was the one attacked in case you forgot. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,351]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Ukraine was the one attacked in case you forgot. 

so we should support the war machine, got it.  I am against paying for other countries to defend themselves, they should pay for it themselves

[thegeneral 3,214]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

so we should support the war machine, got it.  I am against paying for other countries to defend themselves, they should pay for it themselves

We can agree to disagree. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,446]

48 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Ukraine was the one attacked in case you forgot. 

So was Israel. Cease fire! 

[seafoam1 3,031]

55 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

We can agree to disagree. 

And you would still be wrong....

[thegeneral 3,214]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

And you would still be wrong....

Stick to Biden tripping vids

[seafoam1 3,031]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Stick to Biden tripping vids

Instead of you making an.ass of yourself and me pointing it out? You are both fun to beat down upon.