Chiefs Trade Tyreek Hill to Miami

[weepaws 3,158]

27 minutes ago, jrokh said:

Last 3 years: The Rams had Cooper Kupp and OBJ, Bucs had Evans/Godwin/AB, and the Chiefs had Tyreek Hill. Obviously the QB is the most important position, kind of self-evident. Most teams need an elite or at least very good passing game to compete. Elite WR's make that possible. If you lose an elite WR and replace him with a bunch of JAG's, you're passing game got worse. Case closed...

Rams had Kupp before Stafford and didn’t win a super bowl. 

The Bucs had Evans and Godwin before Brady and didn’t win a super bowl.  

And Hill didn’t win a super bowl without Mahomes. 

I think a great Qb rises the bar , I can’t wait to see how Adams and Hill do this season without great qbs.  

[weepaws 3,158]

17 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

true.  doesnt matter how good the WR is.  if the QB cant hit him when hes open, the talent becomes wasted talent.

but there are cases where the #1 WR makes a QB better and cases where the QB makes the WR better.

with Mahomes, its tough to say which is which because kelce and Tyreek have always been there.

sure you had a look when hill got hurt and missed a game or two but thats too small a sample size to tell us the answer.

I think the offense is still very good, but not at the level it was before.   Thats my prediction.  Mahomes is still a QB1 but not an elite one. (elite being top 3 or top 4 QB for fantasy)

team will still be good, and should make the playoffs.  but likely no longer the team to beat in their conference.  

of course that could change if they hit on a top WR at the draft table.  but you cant count on THAT.

And yet Mahomes keeps getting draft in ff as early as round 2.  

Thats a bad pick.  

Don’t draft a Qb until the double digit rounds. 

[cmh6476 1,019]

24 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

even if the plan is to draft a WR, you still need to bring someone in.   not all WR's are ready to step into a starting role day one of their rookie season.

to that end, these moves are necessary even if the plan was to draft someone all along.

it seems more often rookie receivers have been contributing though.  It used to be very rare to see immediate impact.  Now it seems to be happening more often.

[weepaws 3,158]

Metcalf would be a good pick up for the Packers or KC.  

[IGotWorms 4,057]

16 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

it seems more often rookie receivers have been contributing though.  It used to be very rare to see immediate impact.  Now it seems to be happening more often.

For sure. Remember when you used to have to wait until year 3 on a receiver? Now you’re on your way out of the league if you haven’t produced by then

[weepaws 3,158]

Unless you have great speed, MSV going into season five, has had four season with some Qb  named Rodgers, and he avg 2 rec per game. 

But he still continues on in the nfl. 

[jrokh 608]

37 minutes ago, weepaws said:

Rams had Kupp before Stafford and didn’t win a super bowl. 

The Bucs had Evans and Godwin before Brady and didn’t win a super bowl.  

And Hill didn’t win a super bowl without Mahomes. 

I think a great Qb rises the bar , I can’t wait to see how Adams and Hill do this season without great qbs.  

That is self-evident as I said. Even someone who doesn’t watch the game knows a QB is more important than a WR. Still, losing an elite wr and replacing him with mediocre options makes your passing game worse, regardless of who your QB is. Even a mentally challenged fella, like yourself understands this premise…

[weepaws 3,158]

34 minutes ago, jrokh said:

That is self-evident as I said. Even someone who doesn’t watch the game knows a QB is more important than a WR. Still, losing an elite wr and replacing him with mediocre options makes your passing game worse, regardless of who your QB is. Even a mentally challenged fella, like yourself understands this premise…

You’re Welcome, I’m glad I was able to help you understand that.  

[AxeElf 787]

1 hour ago, Ray_T said:

likely no longer the team to beat in their conference.

After hosting four straight conference championship games, the Chiefs are clearly the team to beat in the AFC.

[weepaws 3,158]

Oc is clearly not the best team in the AFC west, and they won’t be ever again with Mahomes as their Qb.  

[jrokh 608]

14 minutes ago, AxeElf said:

After hosting four straight conference championship games, the Chiefs are were clearly the team to beat in the AFC.

Fixored...

[AxeElf 787]

41 minutes ago, jrokh said:

Fixored...

Thank you, Jeane Dixon.

But until they're beat, they're still the team to beat.

Scoreboard.

[TBayXXXVII 2,499]

16 minutes ago, AxeElf said:

Thank you, Jeane Dixon.

But until they're beat, they're still the team to beat.

Scoreboard.

https://www.covers.com/sport/football/nfl/standings

 

....awkward....  

[AxeElf 787]

19 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

https://www.covers.com/sport/football/nfl/standings

 

....awkward....  

Awkward because every team is 0-0 to start the season, or did you have a more salient point to make?

[TBayXXXVII 2,499]

10 minutes ago, AxeElf said:

Awkward because every team is 0-0 to start the season, or did you have a more salient point to make?

You said to look at the score board.  I don't see the Chiefs with more points or wins than anyone else.  Do you?

[weepaws 3,158]

1 hour ago, AxeElf said:

Thank you, Jeane Dixon.

But until they're beat, they're still the team to beat.

Scoreboard.

Bengals 27 KC 24. Beat. 

[jrokh 608]

2 hours ago, AxeElf said:

After hosting four straight conference championship games, the Chiefs are wereclearly the team to beat in the AFC.

Chiefs’ fans are clearly stuck in the denial stage of grief. My condolences…

[weepaws 3,158]

1 hour ago, jrokh said:

Chiefs’ fans are clearly stuck in the denial stage of grief. My condolences…

One playoff appearance in ten years , so are Gmen fans , and this year it will continue. 

Thanks. 

[Ray_T 743]

22 minutes ago, weepaws said:

One playoff appearance in ten years , so are Gmen fans , and this year it will continue. 

Thanks. 

I dont know of too many G men fans who think their team is superbowl bound.  most of them(with one or two notable exceptions) think their team stinks.

That said, I'd agree with them.

[jrokh 608]

31 minutes ago, weepaws said:

One playoff appearance in ten years , so are Gmen fans , and this year it will continue. 

Thanks. 

Nonsense. Giants fans know their team is lousy. Do better, oh wait, you are trying your best. Bless your heart, Forrest…

[weepaws 3,158]

31 minutes ago, weepaws said:

One playoff appearance in ten years , so are Gmen fans , and this year it will continue. 

Thanks. 

 

8 minutes ago, Ray_T said:

I dont know of too many G men fans who think their team is superbowl bound.  most of them(with one or two notable exceptions) think their team stinks.

That said, I'd agree with them.

Was talking about Super Bowls, worst then that I was talking not be able to simply make the playoffs but once the last ten years and zero the last five, every single season they think this is that season they break through and make the playoffs. And watching them degrade someone else’s team , who’s team has had a lot of recent success is very entertaining.  

[weepaws 3,158]

8 minutes ago, jrokh said:

Nonsense. Giants fans know their team is lousy. Do better, oh wait, you are trying your best. Bless your heart, Forrest…

Not true, last year was the turn around year, didn’t you make some kind of bet that you never paid off about them improving? And you don’t speak for all Gmen fans.  I’m sure that makes Gmen fans happy.  

Thanks. 

[AxeElf 787]

3 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

You said to look at the score board.  I don't see the Chiefs with more points or wins than anyone else.  Do you?

Ohhh, I see.  I thought you recognized the figure of speech.

I wasn't really saying, "Look at the score board."

"Scoreboard!" is an expression people use when the proof of what they say is apparent to anyone who cares to look at the facts.  So in this case, when someone says, "the Chiefs are no longer the team to beat in the AFC," the response "Scoreboard!" means that the apparent evidence (of hosting four straight AFC championship games) shows that they are.

Sorry, sometimes I get to talking over my audience.

[weepaws 3,158]

2 minutes ago, AxeElf said:

Ohhh, I see.  I thought you recognized the figure of speech.

I wasn't really saying, "Look at the score board."

"Scoreboard!" is an expression people use when the proof of what they say is apparent to anyone who cares to look at the facts.  So in this case, when someone says, "the Chiefs are no longer the team to beat in the AFC," the response "Scoreboard!" means that the apparent evidence (of hosting four straight AFC championship games) shows that they are.

Sorry, sometimes I get to talking over my audience.

Those four straight AFC championship games won’t  be worth anything in 2022. 

[jrokh 608]

8 minutes ago, weepaws said:

Not true, last year was the turn around year, didn’t you make some kind of bet that you never paid off about them improving? 

More Fake News from Mr. Gump… 

[TBayXXXVII 2,499]

15 hours ago, AxeElf said:

Ohhh, I see.  I thought you recognized the figure of speech.

I wasn't really saying, "Look at the score board."

"Scoreboard!" is an expression people use when the proof of what they say is apparent to anyone who cares to look at the facts.  So in this case, when someone says, "the Chiefs are no longer the team to beat in the AFC," the response "Scoreboard!" means that the apparent evidence (of hosting four straight AFC championship games) shows that they are.

Sorry, sometimes I get to talking over my audience.

Insert ::woosh:: emoji here.

[AxeElf 787]

This won't help the injury concerns any...

Tyreek Hill Wants to Return Punts/Kicks for Dolphins

[Ray_T 743]

On 3/31/2022 at 9:53 PM, AxeElf said:

This won't help the injury concerns any...

Tyreek Hill Wants to Return Punts/Kicks for Dolphins

I think he returned punts and kicks for KC too did he not?

[weepaws 3,158]

Early on he did, he’s had two return att the past three seasons.  

Thanks. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,499]

On 4/2/2022 at 12:50 PM, Ray_T said:

I think he returned punts and kicks for KC too did he not?

He only has 2 punt returns over the last 3 seasons.  He may have been out there but either fair caught them or they were touchbacks, but he's only credited with 2 punt returns from 2019 to 2021.

[cmh6476 1,019]

There is a meme going around quoting tyreek as saying after his first practice with Miami, going from Mahomes to Tua is like going from a Ferrari to a used 2001 Honda civic.   That can't be correct, can it?

[TBayXXXVII 2,499]

15 minutes ago, cmh6476 said:

There is a meme going around quoting tyreek as saying after his first practice with Miami, going from Mahomes to Tua is like going from a Ferrari to a used 2001 Honda civic.   That can't be correct, can it?

That he said it?  No.  That he feels it?  Yes.

[weepaws 3,158]

I hope he said it.  

[AxeElf 787]

8 hours ago, cmh6476 said:

There is a meme going around quoting tyreek as saying after his first practice with Miami, going from Mahomes to Tua is like going from a Ferrari to a used 2001 Honda civic.   That can't be correct, can it?

I loved the one where the kids were playing street fooball, and the kid labeled "TYREEK" runs a go, and the kid labeled "TUA" throws the ball into a mailbox about 10 feet away.

[cmh6476 1,019]

Ummm, wth is reek taking about? Dude is under contact with the phins though '26

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/19119/tyreek-hill

[cmh6476 1,019]

May end up being a mutual separation if he really wants out

https://x.com/jasrifootball/status/1876085047536877877

[LaChup 232]

He was never the same after he rolled up on the popo.

[weepaws 3,158]

Didn’t Hill say he’s going to retire once his contract comes to an end.  

[gcmmidwest 149]

He left kc for more money and now he's upset he's not in the playoffs.. NFL is not a team sport anymore... It's me me me & $$$

[cmh6476 1,019]

tyreek changing his profile pic to his head on antonio brown leaving mid-game and says he wants out

https://x.com/MySportsUpdate/status/1876312662331859310