MDC 5,911 Posted April 21, 2022 49 minutes ago, peenie said: I know, the hypocrisy is unreal. DeSantos is a particularly shameless grandstanding blowhard. He’ll do well in that primary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted April 21, 2022 25 minutes ago, MDC said: DeSantos is a particularly shameless grandstanding blowhard. He’ll do well in that primary. He is a politician, so yeah, I guess we could do listen to Biden blather on lying about his past and what not, but since they are politicians....y'know, its nice that you seem to get it though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,814 Posted April 21, 2022 4 hours ago, TimmySmith said: I assume the NYT is headed to Maryland next? Probably not. I guess you didn't want to start a new thread on this. So here you go: For those who can't get through the paywall like myself, here's a different article on the same story: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/04/redistricting-maryland-hogan-congressional-map-00022904 So basically, looks like Dems proposed a gerrymandered map, it was vetoed, so they proposed a better one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,911 Posted April 21, 2022 42 minutes ago, RLLD said: He is a politician, so yeah, I guess we could do listen to Biden blather on lying about his past and what not, but since they are politicians....y'know, its nice that you seem to get it though Yes, I for one get that they’re all hypocrites. One day maybe you’ll get it too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,130 Posted April 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, TimHauck said: So basically, looks like Dems proposed a gerrymandered map, it was vetoed, so they proposed a better one. Yeah, that's not really what happened. The governor vetoed the map, but the Democrats had enough votes to kick it to the courts. The judge is the one who said "No" and forced a better map. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,814 Posted April 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Yeah, that's not really what happened. The governor vetoed the map, but the Democrats had enough votes to kick it to the courts. The judge is the one who said "No" and forced a better map. Correct, it was vetoed by the judge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,814 Posted April 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: For the record, you have only said anything when republicans do it. You moderates have to do better than this. This is the second time I've ever said the word gerrymandering in the GC. The first was after I posted a senator's social media post about Afghanistan (nothing to do with gerrymandering) that I follow, and RaiderHatersRevenge said he didn't like the guy because he was "anti-gerrymandering," so I asked him if he thought gerrymandering was good and he said yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,046 Posted April 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, MDC said: Yes, I for one get that they’re all hypocrites. One day maybe you’ll get it too. Yesterday, he argued with me that the stated job and responsibilities of a FBI director, weren't correct and substituted his own job description, so I wouldn't hold my breath about RLLD coming to terms with reality anytime soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,737 Posted April 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: This is the second time I've ever said the word gerrymandering in the GC. The first was after I posted a senator's social media post about Afghanistan (nothing to do with gerrymandering) that I follow, and RaiderHatersRevenge said he didn't like the guy because he was "anti-gerrymandering," so I asked him if he thought gerrymandering was good and he said yes. Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,814 Posted April 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Exactly. So basically this is the first time I've brought it up. Which I did as a potential reason for why Desantis is seemingly picking a fight against Disney. Try harder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,737 Posted April 21, 2022 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: So basically this is the first time I've brought it up. Which I did as a potential reason for why Desantis is seemingly picking a fight against Disney. Try harder. You’re batting a thousand. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,814 Posted April 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You’re batting a thousand. Well I answered Timmy's question about Maryland. Try harder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,608 Posted April 21, 2022 28 minutes ago, TimHauck said: This is the second time I've ever said the word gerrymandering in the GC. The first was after I posted a senator's social media post about Afghanistan (nothing to do with gerrymandering) that I follow, and RaiderHatersRevenge said he didn't like the guy because he was "anti-gerrymandering," so I asked him if he thought gerrymandering was good and he said yes. to be clear, yes gerrymandering is good on both sides its been turned into a political weapon, but its a necessary process in order to keep each districts population equal giving equal representation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted April 21, 2022 54 minutes ago, MDC said: Yes, I for one get that they’re all hypocrites. One day maybe you’ll get it too. Your ability to pretend is something of a distinguishing characteristic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,911 Posted April 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: Your ability to pretend is something of a distinguishing characteristic. Being a blowhard is yours, Cliffy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted April 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, MDC said: Being a blowhard is yours, Cliffy. Ahhh, yes, the personal attack, the hallmark of liberal behaviors. Thank you for being predictable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,911 Posted April 21, 2022 1 minute ago, RLLD said: Ahhh, yes, the personal attack, the hallmark of liberal behaviors. Thank you for being predictable. Because you’re above personal attacks right Cliffy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,130 Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: Correct, it was vetoed by the judge. And if the judge in Florida feels the same way as the one in Maryland, the result in FL will be the same. In the end, there's only vitriol for conservatives in FL and none for liberals in MD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,184 Posted April 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So I would be ok if Disney said it’s fine? Uh yeah. But you see, I would rather they said nothing and stayed out of it and just counted their money. But they went there. Nice try though. See so you admit it isn't the nature of the company you care about- it's that they agree with you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,814 Posted April 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: And if the judge in Florida feels the same way as the one in Maryland, the result in FL will be the same. In the end, there's only vitriol for conservatives in FL and none for liberals in MD. I saw plenty of tweets complaining about gerrymandering in Maryland (and other dem states). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,130 Posted April 21, 2022 6 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I saw plenty of tweets complaining about gerrymandering in Maryland (and other dem states). I saw none. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted April 21, 2022 34 minutes ago, MDC said: Because you’re above personal attacks right Cliffy? I am not above responding in kind, but try to restrain regardless, to avoid lowering myself to exist at the level of people such as yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,911 Posted April 21, 2022 1 minute ago, RLLD said: I am not above responding in kind, but try to restrain regardless, to avoid lowering myself to exist at the level of people such as yourself. I’d post numerous examples of your name calling but you’re such a waffling hypocrite that you’d worm out of it anyway. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,814 Posted April 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I saw none. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted April 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, MDC said: I’d post numerous examples of your name calling but you’re such a waffling hypocrite that you’d worm out of it anyway. Hey thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,130 Posted April 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Interesting... all were AFTER the judgement, not before. Was there a judgement yet in the Florida map? Are any of them left-leaning groups... claiming that it wasn't right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,184 Posted April 21, 2022 The other dumb thing here is- Disney gives to all politicians in Florida...DeSantis doing this and the other branches following him off the cliff seem to be pushing Disney to put their weight behind the left more Also this will screw with people's taxes in Florida and hurt their pocketbooks. Again- just a dumb fight to pick and if this starts to go bad you know Trump is gonna use this against DeSantis in 2024. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 430 Posted April 21, 2022 4 hours ago, peenie said: Maybe you need to read the title of this thread again and realize that reading comprehension is in fact not YOUR strong suit. Well....since I posted it, I kinda know what it was about. I can't help it if you choose to run your pie hole without doing the leg work. Common problem these days..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,814 Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said: Interesting... all were AFTER the judgement, not before. Was there a judgement yet in the Florida map? Are any of them left-leaning groups... claiming that it wasn't right? those were just the first ones that came up, I think they were all from like the last week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,130 Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: those were just the first ones that came up, I think they were all from like the last week. I stay away from instagram and twitter, so I don't really know what's on there. That said, if everything is after the fact, then it's not really apples to apples with FL since the bill hasn't even made it to the governor yet for the judge to even give his stamp of approval. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,737 Posted April 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Sean Mooney said: See so you admit it isn't the nature of the company you care about- it's that they agree with you No. My first preference is they stay out of things. Reading comprehension isn’t your jam, is it? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,737 Posted April 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Sean Mooney said: The other dumb thing here is- Disney gives to all politicians in Florida...DeSantis doing this and the other branches following him off the cliff seem to be pushing Disney to put their weight behind the left more Also this will screw with people's taxes in Florida and hurt their pocketbooks. Again- just a dumb fight to pick and if this starts to go bad you know Trump is gonna use this against DeSantis in 2024. I’m ok paying more taxes to take on woke. Just like I’m supposed to be ok with paying more for gas and everything else to take on Putin! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,277 Posted April 21, 2022 Ruh roh! https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/21/disney-special-district-florida-taxpayers-could-face-a-1-billion-debt-bomb-if-dissolved.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,737 Posted April 21, 2022 Looking forward to DeSantis making them beg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,737 Posted April 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: Ruh roh! https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/21/disney-special-district-florida-taxpayers-could-face-a-1-billion-debt-bomb-if-dissolved.html This is good news! 3 of the 4 congressional districts in those counties are liberal! Plus the Orlando area is full of illegals that Disney uses to do their grunt work and the rest of us pay for. This is a good day! Makes me like RD even more. Thanks Rusty Pimpadoosh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,567 Posted April 21, 2022 6 hours ago, Sean Mooney said: The other dumb thing here is- Disney gives to all politicians in Florida...DeSantis doing this and the other branches following him off the cliff seem to be pushing Disney to put their weight behind the left more Also this will screw with people's taxes in Florida and hurt their pocketbooks. Again- just a dumb fight to pick and if this starts to go bad you know Trump is gonna use this against DeSantis in 2024. Disney giving dirty money to any politician that will do their bidding and turn a blind eye to their aggressive woke corporate talking points is baked in the cake. You need politicians of good character willing to say "no." As for the effects of how it screws with the taxes in Florida and the local communities, I read this too. It may be true. It may also be the leftwing activist journalists serving their corporate overlords and blowing smoke at their political enemies. I hope the Florida politicians took it into consideration and gave this governance shift a good looking over. I really don't know enough to comment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,814 Posted April 22, 2022 58 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: This is good news! 3 of the 4 congressional districts in those counties are liberal! Plus the Orlando area is full of illegals that Disney uses to do their grunt work and the rest of us pay for. This is a good day! Makes me like RD even more. Thanks Rusty Pimpadoosh! Do you live in FL? I thought you lived in NY? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,737 Posted April 22, 2022 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: Do you live in FL? I thought you lived in NY? I live in NY. What’s your point? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,814 Posted April 22, 2022 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: I live in NY. What’s your point? You were talking about the Disney situation like it actually effected you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,737 Posted April 22, 2022 Just now, TimHauck said: You were talking about the Disney situation like it actually effected you. The culture war affects us all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites