Roe V Wade overturned!!! Leaked, SCOTUS SHOULD BE IMPEACHED

[MDC 7,430]

44 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Science says you are wrong. Where are you getting these facts? 

BB is right. A fetus isn’t viable until 24 weeks with major medical intervention. 

https://www.verywellfamily.com/premature-birth-and-viability-2371529

[Baker Boy 1,699]

7 minutes ago, MDC said:

BB is right. A fetus isn’t viable until 24 weeks with major medical intervention. 

https://www.verywellfamily.com/premature-birth-and-viability-2371529

That is not the issue, a fetus is still human life starting at conception.

when a child is born and mom stops taking care of it and it dies is that murder? This child still can’t live on its own.

should a mother be able to terminate a child’s life until it is self-sufficient?

[TimHauck 2,877]

5 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

 

when a child is born and mom stops taking care of it and it dies is that murder? 

Yes

[Baker Boy 1,699]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yes

What is the difference between that and abortion? The child cannot survive on its own, so I am confused by your logic.

[MDC 7,430]

12 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

That is not the issue, a fetus is still human life starting at conception.

when a child is born and mom stops taking care of it and it dies is that murder? This child still can’t live on its own.

should a mother be able to terminate a child’s life until it is self-sufficient?

You said science said he’s wrong and I agreed. A fetus isn’t viable outside the womb until 24 weeks and even then only with major medical intervention.

Your questions above don’t seem to be moral/philosophical, not scientific.

[Baker Boy 1,699]

3 minutes ago, MDC said:

You said science said he’s wrong and I agreed. A fetus isn’t viable outside the womb until 24 weeks and even then only with major medical intervention.

Your questions above don’t seem to be moral/philosophical, not scientific.

So what is the difference?

[TimHauck 2,877]

19 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

What is the difference between that and abortion? The child cannot survive on its own, so I am confused by your logic.

Because that child is not literally attached to the mother’s body.

[Baker Boy 1,699]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Because that child is not literally attached to the mother’s body.

Why does that make a difference? Who made these rules up? Link?

[TimHauck 2,877]

13 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Why does that make a difference? Who made these rules up? Link?

If you can’t tell the difference between something that’s inside one’s body and something that’s outside’s one’s body, I’m not sure if I can help you.

[craftsman 1,045]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

If you can’t tell the difference between something that’s inside one’s body and something that’s outside’s one’s body, I’m not sure if I can help you.

You treat unborn children like most people treat cancer. If you don't want it, just have it cut out of you.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,438]

The savages of central and South America thought it was good to sacrifice children for the greater good too. 

[Baker Boy 1,699]

20 hours ago, TimHauck said:

If you can’t tell the difference between something that’s inside one’s body and something that’s outside’s one’s body, I’m not sure if I can help you.

What difference does it make when it comes to ending human life? If you can’t explain it……….

[TimHauck 2,877]

1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

What difference does it make when it comes to ending human life? If you can’t explain it……….

Sigh.  I already did

[craftsman 1,045]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Sigh.  I already did

Yeah, treat the unborn child like cancer. Cut it right out of your body. 

[Baker Boy 1,699]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Sigh.  I already did

No you didn’t, link please.

[TimHauck 2,877]

3 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

No you didn’t, link please.

 

21 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Because that child is not literally attached to the mother’s body.

A fetus needs the mother and only the mother to survive (until ~20 weeks).  A newborn just needs someone to give it formula.

[Baker Boy 1,699]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

 

A fetus needs the mother and only the mother to survive (until ~20 weeks).  A newborn just needs someone to give it formula.

And that is your justification for abortion? A mother can stop giving nourishment up to 20 weeks but after that it’s murder.  I have a problem understanding your morals and values of human life. 

and a new born needs much more than formula to keep it alive.  

[dogcows 1,030]

1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

And that is your justification for abortion? A mother can stop giving nourishment up to 20 weeks but after that it’s murder.  I have a problem understanding your morals and values of human life. 

and a new born needs much more than formula to keep it alive.  

Different people have different views on morality. Abortion is clearly an area with a variety of moral views, and a lot of gray areas. In my opinion, that is a great reason to make it a personal choice. Most attempts at legislating morality fail in the long run: modesty laws, prohibition, etc.

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

Baker Boy thinks "morality" is "science."

This is why we can't have discussions on these things. People don't want facts, they just want "what makes them feel good."

[craftsman 1,045]

13 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Different people have different views on morality. Abortion is clearly an area with a variety of moral views, and a lot of gray areas. In my opinion, that is a great reason to make it a personal choice. Most attempts at legislating morality fail in the long run: modesty laws, prohibition, etc.

You can the same thing about a lot of criminal activates. 

[TimHauck 2,877]

31 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

And that is your justification for abortion? A mother can stop giving nourishment up to 20 weeks but after that it’s murder.  I have a problem understanding your morals and values of human life. 

and a new born needs much more than formula to keep it alive.  

To your first question:  yeah pretty much.  If the child can not survive without the mother, then it should still be the mother’s choice.

To your second question:  not really.  Maybe someone to wipe its butt and to watch it sleep so it doesn’t choke, but that’s about it.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,438]

27 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Different people have different views on morality. Abortion is clearly an area with a variety of moral views, and a lot of gray areas. In my opinion, that is a great reason to make it a personal choice. Most attempts at legislating morality fail in the long run: modesty laws, prohibition, etc.

Some people think the growing child has no say though. 

[craftsman 1,045]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

To your first question:  yeah pretty much.  If the child can not survive without the mother, then it should still be the mother’s choice.

To your second question:  not really.  Maybe someone to wipe its butt and to watch it sleep so it doesn’t choke, but that’s about it.  

No it shouldn't. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350]

so have they even started an investigation into SCOTUS leaks? 

thats what people should be pissed about

not when or when you can't kill your baby

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,438]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

so have they even started an investigation into SCOTUS leaks? 

thats what people should be pissed about

not when or when you can't kill your baby

 

Exactly. It’s obvious a judge was involved. That’s why we got nothing. 

[craftsman 1,045]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

so have they even started an investigation into SCOTUS leaks? 

thats what people should be pissed about

not when or when you can't kill your baby

 

Liberals don't get investigated thoroughly. See Hunter and Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton and the Liberal SCOTUS members and others.

Besides, the FBI will be 100% busy with Trump until he dies. 

 

[Baker Boy 1,699]

26 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Baker Boy thinks "morality" is "science."

."

Link

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

Just now, Baker Boy said:

Link

Your questions a few posts up.

Re-read what you wrote. 

[Baker Boy 1,699]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

Your questions a few posts up.

Re-read what you wrote. 

I can’t find it. Link

[TimHauck 2,877]

22 minutes ago, craftsman said:

No it shouldn't. 

Wait I thought you said you don’t care what the laws are, fraud?

[craftsman 1,045]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Wait I thought you said you don’t care what the laws are, fraud?

I said the SC put it in the states hands. 

[RLLD 4,230]

What is so amusing is that through all these gyrations to create delineations as to when the fetus is this or that we can see that everyone knows and understands that a baby is being killed.

The effort to create complicated delineations is an implicit admission. 
 

These people work hard to create morality to justify and perhaps self sooth as they know what is really happening.

I have no such hangups . If you abort a baby you are killing another human, period. And I am ok with it, if you are willing to do that then you are a selfish slut, and I prefer you NOT raise a child.

So I am good with it. Kill away!

[Hardcore troubadour 15,438]

10 minutes ago, RLLD said:

What is so amusing is that through all these gyrations to create delineations as to when the fetus is this or that we can see that everyone knows and understands that a baby is being killed.

The effort to create complicated delineations is an implicit admission. 
 

These people work hard to create morality to justify and perhaps self sooth as they know what is really happening.

I have no such hangups . If you abort a baby you are killing another human, period. And I am ok with it, if you are willing to do that then you are a selfish slut, and I prefer you NOT raise a child.

So I am good with it. Kill away!

And if you push a woman to have one you’re not much of a man. 

[TimHauck 2,877]

1 hour ago, craftsman said:

I said the SC put it in the states hands. 

But you think it should be murder then?

[craftsman 1,045]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

But you think it should be murder then?

It is murder. No matter what the liberals vote to do.

[TimHauck 2,877]

1 minute ago, craftsman said:

It is murder. No matter what the liberals vote to do.

Thank you for answering.  After conception?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,438]

It’s a scientific fact that life begins at conception.  There is no debate. 

[RLLD 4,230]

13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s a scientific fact that life begins at conception.  There is no debate. 

Obviously. But that means the “moral” folks can’t have unprotected sex with anyone in sight and escape culpability for their actions.

So in true leftist fashion it’s time to    create new terminology and science to fit their immediate desires

[Reality 3,121]

17 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Obviously. But that means the “moral” folks can’t have unprotected sex with anyone in sight and escape culpability for their actions.

So in true leftist fashion it’s time to    create new terminology and science to fit their immediate desires

Yup.

[TimHauck 2,877]

49 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s a scientific fact that life begins at conception.  There is no debate. 

So the folks that think mothers having abortions should be charged with murder (I know this does not include you) think that’s the case starting with conception, correct?