2022 Midterm Elections

[TimHauck 2,869]

33 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Yes they are younger.  Probably also uglier and worse personalities.  Probably tend to hate men more, and themselves more.  Much fewer children. Much more susceptible to social and social media pressures.  Some combination of all of this, along with being unmarried, makes unmarried women remarkably Democratic.

Don’t yell at me for asking more questions, but is there data on young married women (particularly between say 25-29)? Do they vote much more Republican than unmarried women of the same age?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,427]

Women have gotten uglier. Fat, tattoos, pink hair, shoving shite in their face. Dress like shite too. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Women have gotten uglier. Fat, tattoos, pink hair, shoving shite in their face. Dress like shite too. 

They’re probably hoping you will stay away from them 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,427]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

They’re probably hoping you will stay away from them 

That’s all you could do with that? I know when I’m leaving one out there, but I expect some yucks at least. D. 

[jonmx 2,429]

7 hours ago, Raven Fan said:

lol, keep chasing the virtually nonexistent boogeyman.  Why don't you focus your time on the religious cultist who force young girls to have babies with their fathers creating seriously screwed up genes.  That happens a phuk ton more than the windmills you keep tilting at.

Non-existent my ass.  Those butcher clinics keep their numbers unpublished, but when you look at their revenues and the projections, it is obvious that tens of thousands of children are being mutilated by those bastards.   In the UK there were over 19,000 butchered children and now over 1,000 are suing those lying butchers for malpractice.  Of course here your Democrat buddies protect those lying butchers from lawsuits and proper disclosures because democrats care more about money and power than they do children.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,427]

2 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Non-existent my ass.  Those butcher clinics keep their numbers unpublished, but when you look at their revenues and the projections, it is obvious that tens of thousands of children are being mutilated by those bastards.   In the UK there were over 19,000 butchered children and now over 1,000 are suing those lying butchers for malpractice.  Of course here your Democrat buddies protect those lying butchers from lawsuits and proper disclosures because democrats care more about money and power than they do children.  

They don’t care. Trump wrecked them.  Wrecked them so bad supposed “men” are ok with this.  But it’s not widespread.  

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

45 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No crazies on the left. As a matter of fact, it’s a requirement. I love how you people disregard the makeup of your party. 

Of course there are crazy people on the left but if you are an independent/undecided/centrist voter which do you think comes off crazier (and be honest):

"Student loan forgiveness for people, health care for everyone, defund the police" 

or

"No abortions after a heartbeat, let's deny rights to LGBTQ people, elections are unfair and I'll never recognize one unless I get the result I want."

 

Even "defund the police" which few Democrats run on because it is bad policy doesn't really hurt because there are probably a bunch of people who think "So I can do whatever I want."

 

[5-Points 3,528]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Of course there are crazy people on the left but if you are an independent/undecided/centrist voter which do you think comes off crazier (and be honest):

"Student loan forgiveness for people, health care for everyone, defund the police" 

or

"No abortions after a heartbeat, let's deny rights to LGBTQ people, elections are unfair and I'll never recognize one unless I get the result I want."

 

Even "defund the police" which few Democrats run on because it is bad policy doesn't really hurt because there are probably a bunch of people who think "So I can do whatever I want."

 

Had to make sh!t up to try to even it out, huh?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,427]

5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Of course there are crazy people on the left but if you are an independent/undecided/centrist voter which do you think comes off crazier (and be honest):

"Student loan forgiveness for people, health care for everyone, defund the police" 

or

"No abortions after a heartbeat, let's deny rights to LGBTQ people, elections are unfair and I'll never recognize one unless I get the result I want."

 

Even "defund the police" which few Democrats run on because it is bad policy doesn't really hurt because there are probably a bunch of people who think "So I can do whatever I want."

 

You can’t legally deny rights to anyone. Please give an example of lgbtq being denied rights by republicans. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

2 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Had to make sh!t up to try to even it out, huh?

What did I make up there? Mastriano in PA absolutely believes both of those things and basically said as much with his Christian fundamentalist campaign backing. 

[Raven Fan 362]

12 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Non-existent my ass.  Those butcher clinics keep their numbers unpublished, but when you look at their revenues and the projections, it is obvious that tens of thousands of children are being mutilated by those bastards.   In the UK there were over 19,000 butchered children and now over 1,000 are suing those lying butchers for malpractice.  Of course here your Democrat buddies protect those lying butchers from lawsuits and proper disclosures because democrats care more about money and power than they do children.  

lololololol

tens of thousands of kids.  Please step back to reality my friend.  Tens of thousands of any kind of surgical intervention, not to even discuss gender reassignment in children, would be a huge deal.

Focus on the religious nutjobs my friend.  They're doing much much more harm than a few messed up kids and parents. 

[jonmx 2,429]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Of course there are crazy people on the left but if you are an independent/undecided/centrist voter which do you think comes off crazier (and be honest):

"Student loan forgiveness for people, health care for everyone, defund the police" 

or

"No abortions after a heartbeat, let's deny rights to LGBTQ people, elections are unfair and I'll never recognize one unless I get the result I want."

 

Even "defund the police" which few Democrats run on because it is bad policy doesn't really hurt because there are probably a bunch of people who think "So I can do whatever I want."

 

You left off:

- you are whatever sex you feel like and we must pay for butchering up children.

- babies are just clumps of cells

- people who protest vaccinations are worst than terrorists.  

- global warming will kill us all, unless we tax everyone and force them to switch to solar panels and batteries which makes more emissions in their production than they save.  

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You can’t legally deny rights to anyone. Please give an example of lgbtq being denied rights by republicans. 

You couldn't even answer a simple question?

[zsasz 369]

16 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Non-existent my ass.  Those butcher clinics keep their numbers unpublished, but when you look at their revenues and the projections, it is obvious that tens of thousands of children are being mutilated by those bastards.   In the UK there were over 19,000 butchered children and now over 1,000 are suing those lying butchers for malpractice.  Of course here your Democrat buddies protect those lying butchers from lawsuits and proper disclosures because democrats care more about money and power than they do children.  

Last I checked, Snoop.....we didn't give a flying fook about the U.K.  Keep it relevant to the U.S., Chachi....

[jonmx 2,429]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You can’t legally deny rights to anyone. Please give an example of lgbtq being denied rights by republicans. 

They feel of we don't affirm whatever children want and the butchering covered by government regulated health care, their rights are denied. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

Just now, jonmx said:

You left off:

- you are whatever sex you feel like and we must pay for butchering up children.

- babies are just clumps of cells

- people who protest vaccinations are worst than terrorists.  

- global warming will kill us all, unless we tax everyone and force them to switch to solar panels and batteries which makes more emissions in their production than they save.  

You think global warming is crazy to people in the middle?

Again- the exercise here is to get yourselves out of your bubble and really consider the messaging.

Inflation is up, gas prices are up, everyday families are struggling, and Biden has one of (if not the) lowest approval rating of any sitting President at a midterm election....and the Republicans still lost the Senate, will at best barely get the House, and lost ground in some of those Rust Belt states...The messaging failed them here and a lot of that is on the craziness of the candidates they ran. 

[jonmx 2,429]

1 minute ago, zsasz said:

Last I checked, Snoop.....we didn't give a flying fook about the U.K.  Keep it relevant to the U.S., Chachi....

We care about the UK because their numbers have been exposed.   You idiots still believe whatever nonsense their lying bastards at Planned Children Butchering tell you.  

[Raven Fan 362]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

You think global warming is crazy to people in the middle?

Again- the exercise here is to get yourselves out of your bubble and really consider the messaging.

Inflation is up, gas prices are up, everyday families are struggling, and Biden has one of (if not the) lowest approval rating of any sitting President at a midterm election....and the Republicans still lost the Senate, will at best barely get the House, and lost ground in some of those Rust Belt states...The messaging failed them here and a lot of that is on the craziness of the candidates they ran. 

Are you not aware of all the millions of children who's bits are being chopped off???

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

Just now, Raven Fan said:

Are you not aware of all the millions of children who's bits are being chopped off???

I'm aware that people on the right believe that because they believe whoever is selling that to them.

[Raven Fan 362]

1 minute ago, jonmx said:

We care about the UK because their numbers have been exposed.   You idiots still believe whatever nonsense their lying bastards at Planned Children Butchering tell you.  

Kind of weird it's only nutjobs like you that have "exposed" the massive amount of abuse of children going on.  Not a single credible news outlet will take up the story but Jon the nutjob poster is all over the "facts."

lmfao

[zsasz 369]

1 minute ago, jonmx said:

We care about the UK because their numbers have been exposed.   You idiots still believe whatever nonsense their lying bastards at Planned Children Butchering tell you.  

I don't give a rat turd about the UK.  You might not realize this....but we kicked their ass out of this country and established OUR own country.  So if those  bad teeth having, tea and strumptet eating, rainy day mofos want to mutlilate kids...so be it.  

[5-Points 3,528]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

What did I make up there? Mastriano in PA absolutely believes both of those things and basically said as much with his Christian fundamentalist campaign backing. 

I gave you the abortion after a heartbeat thing because there are people who believe that should be illegal. 

Trans people have the same rights as everybody else. 

We should be doing everything possible to ensure election integrity. People on both sides complain when one doesn't go their way. You can't put that solely on the right. 

[Raven Fan 362]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

I'm aware that people on the right believe that because they believe whoever is selling that to them.

Most people on the right don't believe that.  It's just the lowest IQ, CT nutjobs who unfortunately are very loud in their ignorance.

Jon can provide ZERO facts for anything.  He just has his warped opinion. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,427]

6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You couldn't even answer a simple question?

I’m looking for clarification of your statement. You should back it up so I have all the info before I decide. Can you? If not, just say so. It’s cool. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

2 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

I gave you the abortion after a heartbeat thing because there are people who believe that should be illegal. 

Trans people have the same rights as everybody else. 

We should be doing everything possible to ensure election integrity. People on both sides complain when one doesn't go their way. You can't put that solely on the right. 

Again though- when you listen to some of the far right candidates talk they are looking to do away with LGBTQ rights. Again- it comes from the fundamentalist backing.. It is the same backing that drives a lot of the "furries and litter boxes are in all schools" and "we need to do away with all these books" and "pornography is in the libraries." 

Election integrity is fine and there is an argument to be made that comes across as sane. But the general public likes ease of doing things. Being able to vote at almost your leisure is appealing. But people on the right say "I would not have authorized the results of an election", "We need to hire people to protect elections" "Drop boxes should be done away with" "Voting should only be on this specific day." It comes off annoying to people in the middle. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’m looking for clarification of your statement. You should back it up so I have all the info before I decide. Can you? If not, just say so. It’s cool. 

This is a list of states, and the bills, that are deemed "anti LGBTQ bills." I never said specific rights were taken, I said the idea is to run on taking them. There is a difference.

 

https://www.aclu.org/legislation-affecting-lgbtq-rights-across-country

Ok- you should be able to answer the question now. 

[Raven Fan 362]

Are the righties in here actually arguing that their positions are correct?  After such a bigly repudiation and perhaps the worst mid-term performance in the last 75 years?  Particularly given the unfavorable economic climate and terrible presidential approval ratings of Biden?  This complete repudiation of the Republican party should make them sit back and reevaluate their positions on most issues.  Instead they'll double down on Trump, irrelevant culture war crap, and continued election denial.

Never change Republicans.  

[IGotWorms 4,058]

39 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

That’s all you could do with that? I know when I’m leaving one out there, but I expect some yucks at least. D. 

Occam’s razor

[IGotWorms 4,058]

32 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They don’t care. Trump wrecked them.  Wrecked them so bad supposed “men” are ok with this.  But it’s not widespread.  

Yeah because nobody was pro choice before Trump

[BuckSwope 654]

37 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Of course there are crazy people on the left but if you are an independent/undecided/centrist voter which do you think comes off crazier (and be honest):

"Student loan forgiveness for people, health care for everyone, defund the police" 

or

"No abortions after a heartbeat, let's deny rights to LGBTQ people, elections are unfair and I'll never recognize one unless I get the result I want."

 

Even "defund the police" which few Democrats run on because it is bad policy doesn't really hurt because there are probably a bunch of people who think "So I can do whatever I want."

 

I think you left off some from each, but I get if I have a different list.    I think what has to be considered are the %s we are talking here and what polling shows people are voting on and believe.  

For example polling shows Most people want abortion to be legal for most situations.  An extreme position for either party to take to the general public would be abortion ban or abortion up to birth.   One party decided to run largely on that.  

The other would be the stop the steal stuff.  Also a fringe, minority belief overall in the country, but again - one party decided to largely trot those people out.  

We are starting to see the extremes on the left, but so far they have at least been smart enough to not largely run their campaigns on super woke and defund the police type stuff.  

 

The GOP would have been fine if they listened to the polls and the people and instead focused on rational abortion compromise like up to 15-16 weeks or something.  Instead they instantly went to some state bans and rumblings of wanting federal bans.  Too much of that mixed with no exception rules for the general public, and they went too extreme the other way.  

 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

1 minute ago, BuckSwope said:

I think you left off some from each, but I get if I have a different list.    I think what has to be considered are the %s we are talking here and what polling shows people are voting on and believe.  

For example polling shows Most people want abortion to be legal for most situations.  An extreme position for either party to take to the general public would be abortion ban or abortion up to birth.   One party decided to run largely on that.  

The other would be the stop the steal stuff.  Also a fringe, minority belief overall in the country, but again - one party decided to largely trot those people out.  

We are starting to see the extremes on the left, but so far they have at least been smart enough to not run their campaigns on super woke and defund the police type stuff.  

 

The GOP would have been fine if they listened to the polls and the people and instead focused on rational abortion compromise like up to 15-16 weeks or something.  Instead they instantly went to some state bans and rumblings of wanting federal bans.  Too much of that mixed with no exception rules for the general public, and they went too extreme the other way.  

 

Yup...and when the Democrats run candidates who singularly focus on those issues to an extreme they should be hammered over it. 

[5-Points 3,528]

9 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Again though- when you listen to some of the far right candidates talk they are looking to do away with LGBTQ rights. Again- it comes from the fundamentalist backing.. It is the same backing that drives a lot of the "furries and litter boxes are in all schools" and "we need to do away with all these books" and "pornography is in the libraries." 

Election integrity is fine and there is an argument to be made that comes across as sane. But the general public likes ease of doing things. Being able to vote at almost your leisure is appealing. But people on the right say "I would not have authorized the results of an election", "We need to hire people to protect elections" "Drop boxes should be done away with" "Voting should only be on this specific day." It comes off annoying to people in the middle. 

What are LGBTQRS rights? 

The people behind that movement have the same rights you and I have. They want special consideration and nobody has a "right" to that. 

Mark me down as one who feels we should all vote, in person, with ID, on election day. Deciding who we trust to govern the country shouldn't be based on convenience IMO. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,427]

9 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

This is a list of states, and the bills, that are deemed "anti LGBTQ bills." I never said specific rights were taken, I said the idea is to run on taking them. There is a difference.

 

https://www.aclu.org/legislation-affecting-lgbtq-rights-across-country

Ok- you should be able to answer the question now. 

So no rights are being taken. Got it. The latter. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

2 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

What are LGBTQRS rights? 

The people behind that movement have the same rights you and I have. They want special consideration and nobody has a "right" to that. 

Mark me down as one who feels we should all vote, in person, with ID, on election day. Deciding who we trust to govern the country shouldn't be based on convenience IMO. 

I shared a link.

They would argue some politicians want to take their rights away.

If you want to do that fine- but then we need a national policy across the board. Otherwise- state's rights. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So no rights are being taken. Got it. The latter. 

So you refuse to answer a simple question. Got it. Typical.

I mean it isn't the gotcha you think it is. I never said in my first post that their rights were being stripped- just that there is a perceived threat there.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,427]

9 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Yeah because nobody was pro choice before Trump

The mutilating of children, which is the subject, is a fairly new phenomenon.  Brought to you by leftists and the current president.  

[Raven Fan 362]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The mutilating of children, which is the subject, is a fairly new phenomenon.  Brought to you by leftists and the current president.  

I'm pretty sure religious groups have been mutilating and abusing children at a bigly rate for a long long time.

Yet you Rs never seem to mention that...weird...you focus on acts that almost never happen but ignore the ones that are regular occurrences in the name of religion. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,427]

4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

So you refuse to answer a simple question. Got it. Typical.

I said the latter.  The second one. Why so touchy? 

[jerryskids 6,795]

41 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Of course there are crazy people on the left but if you are an independent/undecided/centrist voter which do you think comes off crazier (and be honest):

"Student loan forgiveness for people, health care for everyone, defund the police" 

or

"No abortions after a heartbeat, let's deny rights to LGBTQ people, elections are unfair and I'll never recognize one unless I get the result I want."

 

Even "defund the police" which few Democrats run on because it is bad policy doesn't really hurt because there are probably a bunch of people who think "So I can do whatever I want."

 

Is that code for "lop off the genitals of minors"?  I mean, your list of Republican things are all extreme, certainly more so than "health care for everyone."   

[Hardcore troubadour 15,427]

1 minute ago, Raven Fan said:

I'm pretty sure religious groups have been mutilating and abusing children at a bigly rate for a long long time.

Yet you Rs never seem to mention that...weird...you focus on acts that almost never happen but ignore the ones that are regular occurrences in the name of religion. 

Oh yes I/we have. Go ahead and put female genital mutilation in the search. Then Stfu. Racist.