2022 Midterm Elections

[Raven Fan 362]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Raffensberger didn’t run for governor. And all those states are blue or purple. It’s not a surprise. 

Thanks for the Raffensberger correction.  And if Trump hadn't pushed election deniers it's very likely Rs would have won at least 2 of those 4 seats.  Not to mention all the secretaries of state election deniers that lost.

The country is finished with election deniers. 

[Reality 3,121]

1 hour ago, Raven Fan said:

Hice lost GOP primary in GA to Raffensberger

Masteriano in PA

Michels in Wisconsin 

Cox in Maryland

Lake (most likely) in Arizona

Not too mention like 4 or 5 secretary of state candidates who were election deniers and lost.

WONDERFUL

You left out Abrams, weird.

[Raven Fan 362]

Just now, Reality said:

You left out Abrams, weird.

She wasn't pushed forward by Trump.

Duh

[Reality 3,121]

Just now, Raven Fan said:

She wasn't pushed forward by Trump.

Duh

Election denier. HTH

[Raven Fan 362]

Just now, Reality said:

Election denier. HTH

Meh, she didn't concede but she also didn't hold rallies 2 year later crying about a stolen election.

But know what, I'm feeling generous and will give you this one. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

59 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

He did supposedly have real world experience and was making six figures out of college trading.

Doesn't mean he was qualified to run a multi-billion dollar company, but c'mon people, can't we have a story about a weirdo scam artist that lost a billion+ dollars in less than a week and may be single handedly responsible for killing people's trust in cryptocurrency without making it about political conspiracy theories?  

It's all they have. Everything has to be politically leaning.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,414]

Imagine defending this FTX kid. Too funny. 

[TimHauck 2,858]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Imagine defending this FTX kid. Too funny. 

Who’s defending him?  He was trying to bribe politicians like most rich dudes have been doing for decades.  Doesn’t mean he was in a scheme with Biden and Zelensky to launder money.

[TimHauck 2,858]

1 hour ago, Masshole said:

Ladies and gentlemen. . .  your democratic party!!!       

A whiney lib with no real world experience who virtues signals that they are going to save the world but they really have no idea how to make that work so it just ends up being a drug fueled orgy of not very attractive people who then steal your money/stuff and accomplish nothing and leave destruction in their wake.   

There might not be a better living example of modern day democrats.     Well, except maybe for John Fetterman.      

 

We should just be laughing at replies like this:

 

 

[nobody 2,667]

2 hours ago, Masshole said:

Ladies and gentlemen. . .  your democratic party!!!       

A whiney lib with no real world experience who virtues signals that they are going to save the world but they really have no idea how to make that work so it just ends up being a drug fueled orgy of not very attractive people who then steal your money/stuff and accomplish nothing and leave destruction in their wake.   

There might not be a better living example of modern day democrats.     Well, except maybe for John Fetterman.      

 

That is one of the most awkward things I've ever seen.  The slow motion handing of a C-note to the camera man and then the zoom in on the bill.  I notice in the next scene he got that hundo back, though.  

 

[Mike Honcho 5,269]

Ouch.

Sen. Josh Hawley: "This election was the funeral for the Republican Party as we know it"

GOP Sen. Josh Hawley on Monday said the midterm election "was the funeral for the Republican Party as we know it."

“I think that this election was the funeral for the Republican Party as we know it,” he said at the US Capitol as he headed to vote. “The Republican Party as we have known it is dead –– and voters have made that clear.”

The Missouri senator added:

"We need to be thinking about what the future here is. I like a lot of what President Trump did as president. I think we've got a lot to talk about there. But we need to have a conversation about our core convictions to the party and clearly this party is going to have to, actually it's going to have to be different, or we're not going to be a majority party in this country."

On whether he supports Trump running in 2024, Hawley said, "I'm not gonna give him advice, he'll choose to do what he's gonna do."

[Raven Fan 362]

1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

Ouch.

Sen. Josh Hawley: "This election was the funeral for the Republican Party as we know it"

GOP Sen. Josh Hawley on Monday said the midterm election "was the funeral for the Republican Party as we know it."

“I think that this election was the funeral for the Republican Party as we know it,” he said at the US Capitol as he headed to vote. “The Republican Party as we have known it is dead –– and voters have made that clear.”

The Missouri senator added:

"We need to be thinking about what the future here is. I like a lot of what President Trump did as president. I think we've got a lot to talk about there. But we need to have a conversation about our core convictions to the party and clearly this party is going to have to, actually it's going to have to be different, or we're not going to be a majority party in this country."

On whether he supports Trump running in 2024, Hawley said, "I'm not gonna give him advice, he'll choose to do what he's gonna do."

100%.  If Rs can't win in this climate they're finished as a national party.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

Ouch.

Sen. Josh Hawley: "This election was the funeral for the Republican Party as we know it"

GOP Sen. Josh Hawley on Monday said the midterm election "was the funeral for the Republican Party as we know it."

“I think that this election was the funeral for the Republican Party as we know it,” he said at the US Capitol as he headed to vote. “The Republican Party as we have known it is dead –– and voters have made that clear.”

The Missouri senator added:

"We need to be thinking about what the future here is. I like a lot of what President Trump did as president. I think we've got a lot to talk about there. But we need to have a conversation about our core convictions to the party and clearly this party is going to have to, actually it's going to have to be different, or we're not going to be a majority party in this country."

On whether he supports Trump running in 2024, Hawley said, "I'm not gonna give him advice, he'll choose to do what he's gonna do."

The Republitard party as they know is seen through MAGAtard lenses, so hopefully this will force them to alienate Clownzo and reinvent themselves as a more moderate party that eschews misinformation, conspiracy theories and hateful, divisive rhetoric.

[shadrap 228]

8 hours ago, Raven Fan said:

You really need to think about the impact an administration can have on an industry vs the macro-economic environment of their industry.  US companies are producing as much oil now as they ever have been.  So Biden has not had an impact on supply.  And are you suggesting demand now exceeds 19 during "booming" times?  US companies could produce double the oil they are now but if the world spot market for oil is at $100 a barrel, they'll continue to make money hand over fist and the US consumers will still pay $4 at the pump.

You blaming Biden is completely ludicrous. 

you not blaming Biden is more ludicrous.  taking the company line I see.   not my fault!  it's the other guy or it's the other party.  it is not me.  party over truth.  it does happen, but in this case you are dead wrong.. Biden did everything he could do including executive orders to put a stop to oil.  now we are here.

congrats.

 

[Masshole 642]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

He did supposedly have real world experience and was making six figures out of college trading.

Doesn't mean he was qualified to run a multi-billion dollar company, but c'mon people, can't we have a story about a weirdo scam artist that lost a billion+ dollars in less than a week and may be single handedly responsible for killing people's trust in cryptocurrency without making it about political conspiracy theories?  

So you're saying we should pay attention to this story but ignore that in addition to all of the stuff noted in the tweet below - He was the 2nd largest donor to the dems in the last election cycle and his entire business and money vaporized a week after the elections?     Or are you saying you are just choosing to ignore all of this stuff and we should too?    I'm not saying that I know that this is dirty politics, we can't at this point.    But to have all of this swirling around and then recommending that we all do an Ostrich and put our heads in the ground and pretend it's not there - wow that's a plan, I guess.    Not gonna take you up on that one, thanks for the offer.  

PS - the "Gensler" referenced below is the SEC chair . . .

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,414]

3 minutes ago, Masshole said:

So you're saying we should pay attention to this story but ignore that in addition to all of the stuff noted in the tweet below - He was the 2nd largest donor to the dems in the last election cycle and his entire business and money vaporized a week after the elections?     Or are you saying you are just choosing to ignore all of this stuff and we should too?    I'm not saying that I know that this is dirty politics, we can't at this point.    But to have all of this swirling around and then recommending that we all do an Ostrich and put our heads in the ground and pretend it's not there - wow that's a plan, I guess.    Not gonna take you up on that one, thanks for the offer.  

PS - the "Gensler" referenced below is the SEC chair . . .

 

Nah,  Nothing to see here. Nothing at all. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

Lake didn't get what she needed out of Tardicopa County, so Arizona will have itself a blue governor.

[Raven Fan 362]

4 minutes ago, Masshole said:

So you're saying we should pay attention to this story but ignore that in addition to all of the stuff noted in the tweet below - He was the 2nd largest donor to the dems in the last election cycle and his entire business and money vaporized a week after the elections?     Or are you saying you are just choosing to ignore all of this stuff and we should too?    I'm not saying that I know that this is dirty politics, we can't at this point.    But to have all of this swirling around and then recommending that we all do an Ostrich and put our heads in the ground and pretend it's not there - wow that's a plan, I guess.    Not gonna take you up on that one, thanks for the offer.  

PS - the "Gensler" referenced below is the SEC chair . . .

 

What's the CT here now?  Some dude who donated .1% of the dems campaign contributions lost his money shortly after the election?

Wake me up when it's Soros FFS.

[RLLD 4,230]

8 hours ago, Raven Fan said:

You keep repeating the same thing.  US energy production is back up to levels pre-covid.  So Biden hasn't done a single thing to the energy industry other than put them on notice that the US will be pivoting away from fossil fuels when green technology catches up.  The ONLY way Biden can impact energy prices would be to impact supply.  The US has little to no influence on overall energy prices.  Supply back to peak levels shows that the energy companies are not impacted by Biden in the least.

And I'll take the religion of climate, an observable, measurable phenomenon over the conservatives obsession with the sky daddy.  Sea levels are rising.  Sea temperatures are increasing.  The world is getting hotter with more radical weather.  All indisputable and measurable.

Incorrect. The main way he can impact is to cease the threats.

If he did that tomorrow the market would sway, it’s not all that complex.

I give him credit, he has bought into fighting the “climate” thing and is not backing down.

Part of being human is the hubris that we can control things, like climate. 
 

They are going to be rather destructive as long as people keep empowering them to do so.

Eventually the fabric of society will rip to a sufficient point where it maybe collapses. But hey, it was a good run 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,414]

Oh look. Another focked up election count went to the democrats. It’s not a pattern, right? If it were a pattern, that would be a problem, right?

[jerryskids 6,790]

10 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Lake didn't get what she needed out of Tardicopa County, so Arizona will have itself a blue governor.

Probably.  The woman running this well-oiled machine of an Arizona election, Katie Hobbs.  Winning!  

[Raven Fan 362]

10 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Lake didn't get what she needed out of Tardicopa County, so Arizona will have itself a blue governor.

WooHoo!

What a repudiation of the party of Trump.  Please slink away Trump. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Oh look. Another focked up election count went to the democrats. It’s not a pattern, right? If it were a pattern, that would be a problem, right?

Actually, the red-as-red-can-be Tardicopa County overwhelmingly supported Lake, but it wasn't enough to close the gap she needed to win.

The "pattern" is that America is tired of the negative, hateful, delusional, misinformed MAGAtard agenda and voting against it to the point of putting stroke victims into Congress.

I warned you clowns two years ago that this would happen.

MAGAtardism is dead, and even that goon Chuck Hawley sees it.

But Clownzo tomorrow will announce his run for president, furthering his party's downfall and hastening the meteoric rise of progressives in this country.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Probably.  The woman running this well-oiled machine of an Arizona election, Katie Hobbs.  Winning!  

It's a done deal at this point, Skids. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,414]

Patterns….

[jerryskids 6,790]

1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said:

It's a done deal at this point, Skids. 

Yeah, just saw the latest drop, it's over.  Oh well, hopefully she puts that same election-running competence to work in the governor's office.  And doesn't run into the basement again if somebody wants to challenge her positions.   

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

Just now, jerryskids said:

Yeah, just saw the latest drop, it's over.  Oh well, hopefully she puts that same election-running competence to work in the governor's office.  And doesn't run into the basement again if somebody wants to challenge her positions.   

And she doesn't make jokes about hammer assaults on octogenarians.

 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Oh look. Another focked up election count went to the democrats. It’s not a pattern, right? If it were a pattern, that would be a problem, right?

The Republicans running for the House there increased their lead in that same drop.

So that makes the narrative you are trying to paint a bit different. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,414]

5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

The Republicans running for the House there increased their lead in that same drop.

So that makes the narrative you are trying to paint a bit different. 

Then that should count in the pattern. I would love to see a breakdown for higher offices,  not low level county and state ones. Arizona isn’t the only place that has these problems. 

[TimHauck 2,858]

39 minutes ago, Masshole said:

So you're saying we should pay attention to this story but ignore that in addition to all of the stuff noted in the tweet below - He was the 2nd largest donor to the dems in the last election cycle and his entire business and money vaporized a week after the elections?     Or are you saying you are just choosing to ignore all of this stuff and we should too?    I'm not saying that I know that this is dirty politics, we can't at this point.    But to have all of this swirling around and then recommending that we all do an Ostrich and put our heads in the ground and pretend it's not there - wow that's a plan, I guess.    Not gonna take you up on that one, thanks for the offer.  

PS - the "Gensler" referenced below is the SEC chair . . .

 

I'm not saying ignore it.  I'm saying don't jump to the conclusion that it was a giant conspiracy theory.  Which btw I don't see that his mom was Clinton's lawyer.

You seem to be backtracking now, saying "I'm not saying I know that this is dirty politics," but earlier you said there were "lots of indications that Ukraine was laundering and funneling % back to the dems" and  even that Fried admitted as such...

 

 

12 hours ago, Masshole said:

So the guy who's the son of a life-time dem party high level apparatchik starts a ponzi scheme crypto company and becomes the 2nd largest individual donor to the democratic party this past election cycle, 2nd only to Soros.  Donates almost $40M to dems this cycle (and no one else).   Ukraine is one of the countries in the world that has the highest frequency of crypto usage and there's lots of indications that Ukraine was laundering and funneling $ back to the dems through and from this crypto company.     And remarkably all of this breaks just after the election so that this info will have no impact on the elections, of course.   

And the general response from MSM - yawn/crickets.    Only WSJ and a few righty news outlets are reporting it as anything other than a failed crypto company.     I try not to do the "imagine if this was Trump/repubs" route too much - but for christ sake - can you imagine if this was a republican admin and Ronna McDaniel's chief lawyer's son did this?    What do you think the attention level would be?   I'm going to go out on a limb and say it would be just slightly more than it is now - like "24/7 news cycle for months on end on MSNBC & CNN" slightly more.  

What do you think the chances are that this guy "commits suicide" within the next 12 months?    Hillary says it's "pretty close to 100%".    

 

11 hours ago, Masshole said:

The guy who's just casually brushing this off as "NBD" is pointing the finger at other people and saying "you'll believe anything" - that's rich. 

You mean other than Fried saying so himself?:     

Quote from Freid:  And I think when you think about what it would take to get by, you know, to get funds, both to the government there where we do have a relationship with the Ukrainian government, for raising capital for them using Cryptocurrencies that runs through FTX. You know, whether it's getting money to the government, or whether it's getting money to individuals that are in need, you know, there are literally tanks outside of the banks. And then - and this gets to, I think, one of the, you know, places where it can be really important to have a fully digital banking system. And I, you know, fully digital way of handling payments. I think that's, you know, an international one. That's the core of what we've been, you know, helping to support in Ukraine.

 

[Shooter McGavin 618]

 

 

 

[Bert 1,128]

26 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

WooHoo!

What a repudiation of the party of Trump.  Please slink away Trump. 

The governor of Florida, also the  next president of the United States, agrees with you.  

[TimHauck 2,858]

3 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

 

 

 

hogwash.  Those were more than cancelled out by all the young Dem voters that "died suddenly"

[Hardcore troubadour 15,414]

5 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

 

 

 

I thought Trump voters were in a cult and did whatever Trump told them to do? 

[Bert 1,128]

3 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said:

 

 

 

This can’t be correct.  Liberals, especially Oprah, have been showing statics that claim COVID killed more black and brown people than white people.  Can’t have it both ways.  Were they lying then or are they lying now???

[Masshole 642]

18 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I'm not saying ignore it.  I'm saying don't jump to the conclusion that it was a giant conspiracy theory.  Which btw I don't see that his mom was Clinton's lawyer.

You seem to be backtracking now, saying "I'm not saying I know that this is dirty politics," but earlier you said there were "lots of indications that Ukraine was laundering and funneling % back to the dems" and  even that Fried admitted as such..

You're splitting hairs.    I am being honest and acknowledging that we don't know for sure.    But holy sh1t dude - that's a lot of smoke for there not to be a fire.    And you were saying "waaaahhh, why do we have to note these things and point out how fuk'd up it is".      Be less of a toady for your side and you might be able to see a few things.  

Where am I wrong that there's lot's of indications that he was laundering $ thru Ukraine?    He's a sketchy AF crypto CEO who just vaporized $600M,  Ukraine is a sketchy AF country that does more crypto than almost any other country, and we've been spraying the firehouse of US money at full blast towards Ukraine for almost a year now.   You really think all of that money is getting given to starving children and buying M16s?    Have you been paying attention to the last 30 years (or more) of US foreign policy and its results?     

[Shooter McGavin 618]

4 minutes ago, Bert said:

This can’t be correct.  Liberals, especially Oprah, have been showing statics that claim COVID killed more black and brown people than white people.  Can’t have it both ways.  Were they lying then or are they lying now???

You're lying.  Oprah never claimed covid killed more blacks than whites 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,414]

Masshole making sense. Get him! 

[Bert 1,128]

1 minute ago, Shooter McGavin said:

You're lying.  Oprah never claimed covid killed more blacks than whites 

Obviously you did not watch her special on medical care in black neighborhoods. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

22 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Then that should count in the pattern. I would love to see a breakdown for higher offices,  not low level county and state ones. Arizona isn’t the only place that has these problems. 

Or we could just accept Occam's Razor that perhaps Kari Lake (and some of these others losing) were just bad candidates and people voted against them. The better candidates at other levels they voted for.