Raven Fan 362 Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, jerryskids said: My hope, as stated, is that your party continues to think it was an endorsement of this list. The numbers clearly indicate that the Dems won because (1) young single women went out in droves and voted single issue, and (2) the Reps put up clowns who couldn't combat that. Regarding the single sick woman, I didn't say "all," but a vast majority, because it would be very difficult for a young woman to oppose that publicly. They may choose to just say nothing, but then they are irrelevant because they aren't in the "in" crowd. Remember, we aren't talking about people with significant life experiences; this is what drives them. Drives them to what? So what if they support this sick person? Does that mean it's going to incent lots of more young women to do the same? What's the endgame that you think is bad here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,423 Posted November 13, 2022 31 minutes ago, Raven Fan said: LMFAO. What did I just say? No I am obviously not ok with even late term abortions. Why are you so focused on something that essentially never happens. I am for keeping choice for women vs taking away that choice over something that almost never happens. Keep pushing the social issues, it's working out great for you guys! Why are you against it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,269 Posted November 13, 2022 9 hours ago, craftsman said: Riots of 2020 and the $2 billion insurance claim price tag has nothing on all the people/cops those riots put out of work, killed, beat up, etc. all ignored. Yet.....a selfie fest causes the libs to scream TRUMP!!!!! for years to come. TDS must hurt down to the liberal soul. 7 hours ago, craftsman said: I'm surprised so many liberals are cheering on massive government spending. It's almost as if they are really stupid. Oh wait..... 3 hours ago, craftsman said: I'm not surprised the first thing you do early on a Sunday morning is wake up thinking of me and sprinting to your computer to look up my posts and record the times in a notebook. You and MDC have a lot in common. Are you two having an affair? 2 hours ago, craftsman said: How do you beat 81 million worth of cheated votes? And why do all the races where the counting goes on after election day always end up with liberals overtaking the conservatives. I know you will stick with your bit on saying that keeping the current disgusting liberal party in place over having conservatives you don't like in there is good for America, but you are part of the problem. I blame people like you for the mess we are in. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,792 Posted November 13, 2022 25 minutes ago, Raven Fan said: Drives them to what? So what if they support this sick person? Does that mean it's going to incent lots of more young women to do the same? What's the endgame that you think is bad here? Drives them. Drives their attitudes. If you thought my point was that a bunch of young women were going to run out and make their own jewelry, you missed my point. My point is that they could publicly endorse it and be popular, ignore it and be irrelevant, or oppose it and be a pariah. Social acceptance is a very strong motivation for young people, particularly girls. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 13, 2022 11 hours ago, BuckSwope said: Gop more in their pocket? The Ds don't seem to have as much of an issue getting weed legal. Really? Why isn’t it federally decriminalized. Dems run on it every time and never do it. They hold house senate and White House. If they wanted it legal truly. It would be done 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Really? Why isn’t it federally decriminalized. Dems run on it every time and never do it. They hold house senate and White House. If they wanted it legal truly. It would be done You are right. When I asked, I was thinking state by state, not federal legalization for some reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raven Fan 362 Posted November 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Drives them. Drives their attitudes. If you thought my point was that a bunch of young women were going to run out and make their own jewelry, you missed my point. My point is that they could publicly endorse it and be popular, ignore it and be irrelevant, or oppose it and be a pariah. Social acceptance is a very strong motivation for young people, particularly girls. So what? Young girls have always been driven by social acceptance. They grow out of it. What is the terrible endgame you see for this current trend? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raven Fan 362 Posted November 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Hahaha perfect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: You are right. When I asked, I was thinking state by state, not federal legalization for some reason. Gotcha. Yeah it pisses me off. You’re new here so you don’t know. I’ve been in the cannabis industry since 2009. Personally I don’t want it legalized recreationally but I want it declassified California has majorly focked up the situation since recreational. Big companies have taken over. Us small growers have had major struggles staying afloat. About 70% of my friends and acquaintances have left the industry cause it’s hard to stay competitive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted November 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Raven Fan said: So what? Young girls have always been driven by social acceptance. They grow out of it. What is the terrible endgame you see for this current trend? They grow out of it, unless some gender affirming butcher gets a hold of them and chops off their breast and clumps off a part of their arm and reattaches it and calls it a wienie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,868 Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: I just heard about a 22 year old girl who decided to have her fallopian tubes removed and turned them into jewelry, apparently this has gone viral. I haven't looked but Ima guess that the comments to her are overwhelming supportive. A young woman who would have the audacity to question that on social media would become a pariah. Why should people care what a 22 year old woman does to her body when it doesn’t even involve fetuses? What happened to “let crazy adults do what they want to their own bodies, just stay away from the kids”? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raven Fan 362 Posted November 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, jonmx said: They grow out of it, unless some gender affirming butcher gets a hold of them and chops off their breast and clumps off a part of their arm and reattaches it and calls it a wienie lol, keep chasing the virtually nonexistent boogeyman. Why don't you focus your time on the religious cultist who force young girls to have babies with their fathers creating seriously screwed up genes. That happens a phuk ton more than the windmills you keep tilting at. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,792 Posted November 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, Raven Fan said: So what? Young girls have always been driven by social acceptance. They grow out of it. What is the terrible endgame you see for this current trend? It's no endgame, I'm talking about this past election. Reread my posts if you didn't get my point. 24 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Why should people care what a 22 year old woman does to her body when it doesn’t even involve fetuses? What happened to “let crazy adults do what they want to their own bodies, just stay away from the kids”? Same, reread if you'd like. Peers of 22 yr olds can vote, and the social pressure to accept behaviors like this as cool are driving attitudes which drive those votes. See also my earlier "cash in the freezer" post, probably in this thread. Abortion is the cash in the freezer, in the analogy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raven Fan 362 Posted November 13, 2022 Again back on topic. Democrats will increase their lead in the Senate and they still may hold the House. Worst case the Rs have a 2 or 3 seat majority which means they can't stonewall everything. Just a perfect perfect situation for Ds. And again, a clear repudiation of Trump and the cultural war Rs are waging right now. Time to re-think your priorities Rs if you want to remain a viable party. The country is getting less old, less white, and less religious. All of these trends are horrible for Rs. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted November 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, Raven Fan said: lol, keep chasing the virtually nonexistent boogeyman. Why don't you focus your time on the religious cultist who force young girls to have babies with their fathers creating seriously screwed up genes. That happens a phuk ton more than the windmills you keep tilting at. I am not sure that is the argument to use. By way of example, police impropriety is a statistical boogeyman, but that is not a reason to brush it away as not worthy of action. Telling a man he can become a woman, or a woman that she can become a man, is a cruel action. Neither can ever happen no matter how much cutting you do to them or how much pretend you play with them. I think is is wrong to play along with mental illness Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raven Fan 362 Posted November 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, RLLD said: I am not sure that is the argument to use. By way of example, police impropriety is a statistical boogeyman, but that is not a reason to brush it away as not worthy of action. Telling a man he can become a woman, or a woman that she can become a man, is a cruel action. Neither can ever happen no matter how much cutting you do to them or how much pretend you play with them. I think is is wrong to play along with mental illness The police example is an abuse of power. The GOP focus on cultural war issues has been extremely unsuccessful so far. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted November 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Raven Fan said: The police example is an abuse of power. The GOP focus on cultural war issues has been extremely unsuccessful so far. A distinction without a difference. Your logic of, it’s so rare we should not worry about it, is the issue. Perhaps there is another way to defend the point. Trying to justify the logic by some other means is not going to suffice. the logic either works or it does not, I submit does not and perhaps there is another way to defend the position. Your position aside, that is not the right defense for it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted November 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Raven Fan said: The GOP focus on cultural war issues has been extremely unsuccessful so far. Why do you think DeSantis is an outlier to this theory? Overall turnout was down by about 250k, but DeSantis outperformed his 2018 number by about 600k. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Why do you think DeSantis is an outlier to this theory? Overall turnout was down by about 250k, but DeSantis outperformed his 2018 number by about 600k. whats failed to be noticed, is yes the R party old are fading away, but the republican party in 5 years will be predominately hispanic conservatives Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raven Fan 362 Posted November 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Why do you think DeSantis is an outlier to this theory? Overall turnout was down by about 250k, but DeSantis outperformed his 2018 number by about 600k. DeSantis is an extremely popular incumbent governor and Florida is turning redder and redder. Here in the people's republic of Maryland, the great Larry Hogan barely won election the first time around but curbstomped his opponent four years later. The Trump backed R candidate that just ran got curbstomped even worse. While DeSantis works in Florida, I doubt he's as popular anywhere else but a handful of states. Florida is bright red now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Gotcha. Yeah it pisses me off. You’re new here so you don’t know. I’ve been in the cannabis industry since 2009. Personally I don’t want it legalized recreationally but I want it declassified California has majorly focked up the situation since recreational. Big companies have taken over. Us small growers have had major struggles staying afloat. About 70% of my friends and acquaintances have left the industry cause it’s hard to stay competitive. This isn't the thread for it, but I would love to hear more about this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,423 Posted November 13, 2022 Republicans got 6 million more votes this cycle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raven Fan 362 Posted November 13, 2022 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: whats failed to be noticed, is yes the R party old are fading away, but the republican party in 5 years will be predominately hispanic conservatives Unlikely. Hispanics may go back to being closer to 45/55 D/R like there were when Bush Jr. was running, but the Rs constant vilification of hispanics will always keep them a minority. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raven Fan 362 Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Republicans got 6 million more votes this cycle. Republicans got curb stomped. Rs should have flipped 40 seats in the House and 3 or 4 in the Senate. Given 8% inflation and Biden's unpopularity. What do you think is going to happen in 24 when the economy is recovered and Biden isn't running? It's going to be a bloodbath. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 369 Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Republicans got 6 million more votes this cycle. I don't think that's something that shouldn't concern the Democrats. That being said, winning FL by 20+ points doesn't help the national GOP when alot of those 20+ point voters were syphoned off of NJ, PA,NY etc. etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted November 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Raven Fan said: LMFAO. What did I just say? No I am obviously not ok with even late term abortions. Why are you so focused on something that essentially never happens. I am for keeping choice for women vs taking away that choice over something that almost never happens. Keep pushing the social issues, it's working out great for you guys! This is how he argues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,868 Posted November 13, 2022 2 hours ago, jerryskids said: My hope, as stated, is that your party continues to think it was an endorsement of this list. The numbers clearly indicate that the Dems won because (1) young single women went out in droves and voted single issue, Do you think it was mostly due to Roe v Wade and not that Biden bought their vote with student loan forgiveness? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,423 Posted November 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Raven Fan said: LMFAO. What did I just say? No I am obviously not ok with even late term abortions. Why are you so focused on something that essentially never happens. I am for keeping choice for women vs taking away that choice over something that almost never happens. Keep pushing the social issues, it's working out great for you guys! So you’re not going to say why you oppose abortion up until birth? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So you’re not going to say why you oppose abortion up until birth? Isn't that pretty obvious? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, Raven Fan said: Unlikely. Hispanics may go back to being closer to 45/55 D/R like there were when Bush Jr. was running, but the Rs constant vilification of hispanics will always keep them a minority. they dont vilify hispanics, the vilify ILLEGALS and most hispanics agree with that, and every hispanic nation has similar laws to prevent illegal immigration Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted November 13, 2022 55 minutes ago, Raven Fan said: Again back on topic. Democrats will increase their lead in the Senate and they still may hold the House. Worst case the Rs have a 2 or 3 seat majority which means they can't stonewall everything. Just a perfect perfect situation for Ds. And again, a clear repudiation of Trump and the cultural war Rs are waging right now. Time to re-think your priorities Rs if you want to remain a viable party. The country is getting less old, less white, and less religious. All of these trends are horrible for Rs. I love these, you got all of that out of a midterm that for all intents and purposes, was a tie? Look, when you wake up Monday morning Joe Biden is still president, he's a walking time bomb, who's handlers have to monitor his every word. He's the leader of your party. Kamala Harris is such an ignorant VP that they can't even give her the smallest of responsibilities. Your party has no viable national candidates, Whitmer, Newsome... Hilarious, give me a break. Please run one them 2 years from now, the GOP is begging for that scenario. Sure, abortion riled the troops up this cycle, an issue that truly doesn't impact the vast majority of people. Good luck with that issue keeping folks engaged for the long run. Congratz on the tie, where Republicans had more folks show up on election day, including more Hispanic, more African Americans, etc. compared to the recent past. the demographics are\were interesting. White women swayed this race, good luck keeping them onboard without alienating the others. You're gonna need it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Raven Fan said: Again back on topic. Democrats will increase their lead in the Senate and they still may hold the House. Worst case the Rs have a 2 or 3 seat majority which means they can't stonewall everything. Just a perfect perfect situation for Ds. And again, a clear repudiation of Trump and the cultural war Rs are waging right now. Time to re-think your priorities Rs if you want to remain a viable party. The country is getting less old, less white, and less religious. All of these trends are horrible for Rs. I saw a political analyst on MSNBC last night say the Republitards had little in the way of positive messages and meaningful platforms, instead focusing on conspiracies and fear-mongering. I'm watching Gov. Larry Hogan, R-Maryland, on CNN right now, and he blames Clownzoism for focking up the last three elections for Republitards, saying they're just doing the same things over and over and expecting different results. Hogan called DeSantis an "important voice in the Republican Party." The best thing that could happen this week is for Clownzo to announce that he will not run in 2024, but that's highly unlikely. We're just going to get two more years of his clownshit show leading up to more Republican defeats. MAGAtards here for two years have been laughing at and mocking at me telling them that they and the narcissistic idiot they remain loyal to are the problem. Well hardy har har on you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,406 Posted November 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, Reality said: I love these, you got all of that out of a midterm that for all intents and purposes, was a tie? Look, when you wake up Monday morning Joe Biden is still president, he's a walking time bomb, who's handlers have to monitor his every word. He's the leader of your party. Kamala Harris is such an ignorant VP that they can't even give her the smallest of responsibilities. Your party has no viable national candidates, Whitmer, Newsome... Hilarious, give me a break. Please run one them 2 years from now, the GOP is begging for that scenario. Sure, abortion riled the troops up this cycle, an issue that truly doesn't impact the vast majority of people. Good luck with that issue keeping folks engaged for the long run. Congratz on the tie, where Republicans had more folks show up on election day, including more Hispanic, more African Americans, etc. compared to the recent past. the demographics are\were interesting. White women swayed this race, good luck keeping them onboard without alienating the others. You're gonna need it. BDS ACTIVATED! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,149 Posted November 13, 2022 Lets hope that America wises up in 2 years so we still have a country to vote for. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,149 Posted November 13, 2022 26 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: they dont vilify hispanics, the vilify ILLEGALS and most hispanics agree with that, and every hispanic nation has similar laws to prevent illegal immigration Well said!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,409 Posted November 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, Reality said: I love these, you got all of that out of a midterm that for all intents and purposes, was a tie? Look, when you wake up Monday morning Joe Biden is still president, he's a walking time bomb, who's handlers have to monitor his every word. He's the leader of your party. Kamala Harris is such an ignorant VP that they can't even give her the smallest of responsibilities. Your party has no viable national candidates, Whitmer, Newsome... Hilarious, give me a break. Please run one them 2 years from now, the GOP is begging for that scenario. Sure, abortion riled the troops up this cycle, an issue that truly doesn't impact the vast majority of people. Good luck with that issue keeping folks engaged for the long run. Congratz on the tie, where Republicans had more folks show up on election day, including more Hispanic, more African Americans, etc. compared to the recent past. the demographics are\were interesting. White women swayed this race, good luck keeping them onboard without alienating the others. You're gonna need it. This guy was planning to have a few glasses of wine and watch CNN when he expected a red wave. Now the GOP underperformed so he doesn’t care. You must be a crying on the inside type clown. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,101 Posted November 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: I saw a political analyst on MSNBC last night say the Republitards had little in the way of positive messages and meaningful platforms, instead focusing on conspiracies and fear-mongering. I'm watching Gov. Larry Hogan, R-Maryland, on CNN right now, and he blames Clownzoism for focking up the last three elections for Republitards, saying they're just doing the same things over and over and expecting different results. Hogan called DeSantis an "important voice in the Republican Party." The best thing that could happen this week is for Clownzo to announce that he will not run in 2024, but that's highly unlikely. We're just going to get two more years of his clownshit show leading up to more Republican defeats. MAGAtards here for two years have been laughing at and mocking at me telling them that they and the narcissistic idiot they remain loyal to are the problem. Well hardy har har on you! WTF is this rant? I mean, if someone said, "I need you to post something that's not only NOT even remotely true, but also something that is out of pure fantasy" your post would have won. I mean, it's like you're taking something people aren't saying or doing, attributing it to them and then arguing against that. If only there was a word for that. Between you, Squirter McGavin and Looney Mooney you must have a combined IQ of 3. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,149 Posted November 13, 2022 49 minutes ago, Raven Fan said: Republicans got curb stomped. Rs should have flipped 40 seats in the House and 3 or 4 in the Senate. Given 8% inflation and Biden's unpopularity. What do you think is going to happen in 24 when the economy is recovered and Biden isn't running? It's going to be a bloodbath. Recovered by dems definition is eating more chef boyardee. So when we have to buy electric cars with a failing power grid and broken bridges..at least we will have clean air for the homeless on the street. This economy will not "recover" people will adapt and the gov moves the goalpost. Gas under 3 dollars a gallon is gone forever..heating oil and electricity will remain high...supply chain will fumble and stumble..it will be a mess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted November 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Mike Honcho said: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Cloaca du jour said: Recovered by dems definition is eating more chef boyardee. So when we have to buy electric cars with a failing power grid and broken bridges..at least we will have clean air for the homeless on the street. This economy will not "recover" people will adapt and the gov moves the goalpost. Gas under 3 dollars a gallon is gone forever..heating oil and electricity will remain high...supply chain will fumble and stumble..it will be a mess. But Raven Fan agrees with the pedo in chief that gas prices were over $5 a gallon when the pedo took office. The cheerleaders live in that reality. Liberal government has "The Squad", FFToday has "The Cheerleaders". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites