7-Eleven stores in Texas, California, New York use classical music to shoo homeless people

[craftsman 1,045]

Brilliant!! 

This comment sounds so much like a liberal butt hurt comment:  Go ahead and try to reason with the drugged out homeless.

"Others disagree, calling the music "obnoxious" while going shopping and filling up the tank with gas. 

"I believe, just talk to them, and ask them not to hang around, or not to live around, whatever, I think that's the best solution," Frederick Carter, who lives nearby, said.

He says he's started going other nearby 7-Eleven store that doesn't have music playing."

"This music is not very good, it's loud, it's obnoxious to me, I don't like it, you can hear it a long ways off, it's very disturbing," he said.

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Some 7-Eleven convenience stores around the country, including in Texas and California have started using roaring classical and opera music as a tactic to deter homeless people from camping out in front of their storefronts. 

One Texas 7-Eleven owner says the goal is to deter homeless individuals from being there and harassing customers. Some customers say they're all for the music, while others are annoyed by it. 

The store owner, Jagat Patel, says no one from the Austin Police Department has shown up, despite officials receiving multiple noise complaints from blasting classical tunes. He doesn't know whether the actual decibel level falls within city ordinance, but told FOX 7 that he is planning on lowering volume. 

Patel says the homeless population has been a big problem. 

"Especially a lot of my female customers and my young customers are scared to come here, because there are people constantly hanging out in the parking lot soliciting for money," he said.

He says he's had to pay a professional to clean up needles. Others who work nearby say they've been attacked by homeless people. 

"I have to carry this big old knife with me just to defend myself, it's sad that you have to do that," Joe Miranda, who works nearby, told Fox 7.

Patel says he started playing the music about 10 days ago and got the idea because other store owners around the country began doing the same. 

"Studies have shown that the classical music is annoying. Opera is annoying, and I'm assuming they are correct because it's working," he said.

Since Patel and other businesses nearby began playing classical and opera music, they've noticed a difference. 

"Now since they've had this music going on, we have less traffic down with the homeless out here," Joe Miranda, a local business owner, told Fox 7.

Miranda says he thinks it's the right solution.

"It's helping out, it's not annoying to us because it doesn't bother us, but it bothers probably them because they're doing drugs," he said.

Others disagree, calling the music "obnoxious" while going shopping and filling up the tank with gas. 

"I believe, just talk to them, and ask them not to hang around, or not to live around, whatever, I think that's the best solution," Frederick Carter, who lives nearby, said.

He says he's started going other nearby 7-Eleven store that doesn't have music playing.

"This music is not very good, it's loud, it's obnoxious to me, I don't like it, you can hear it a long ways off, it's very disturbing," he said.

Texas convenience stores aren't the only store tapping into Mozart, Bach, and Beethoven, with 7-Elevens in California following suit. 

In Los Angeles, California, 7-Eleven owners began to play classical music to help employees and customers alike feel safe amid a continued spike in homelessness in the area. 

The owner of a California 7-Eleven, Sukhi Sandhu, told The Modesto Bee that he began playing opera and classical music last year in an effort to drive out panhandlers and other loiterers from the convenience store.

"Once the music started, the riffraff left," Manuel Souza told the local paper. "It's hard to hang out and gossip and joke around." 

 

 

[wiffleball 4,789]

Colorado too.

[craftsman 1,045]

9 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Colorado too.

It's a good idea, right? Very well played out. If you can't force people from loitering and negatively affecting your business, simply make the atmosphere undesirable for hanging out in.

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

Nothing wrong with chasing homeless people from retail stores. I do it all the time. Not a conservative/liberal issue. Homeless are no good for business; they can’t be there. 
 

What to do with them in general is a bigger, different question, and THATS where liberals and conservatives are likely to disagree. 

[craftsman 1,045]

13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Nothing wrong with chasing homeless people from retail stores. I do it all the time. Not a conservative/liberal issue. Homeless are no good for business; they can’t be there. 
 

What to do with them in general is a bigger, different question, and THATS where liberals and conservatives are likely to disagree. 

Yeah yeah. We know you love exploiting the illegals. That makes you a great guy. 

[wiffleball 4,789]

I love that it's in New york. Because what are the odds that at some point one of them there opera singers from Broadway or whatever goes to a 7-Eleven and learns that her screeching is meant to scare off people?

[TommyGavin 790]

I heart 7-11

[easilyscan 899]

An endless loop of Afternoon Delight might work even better.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,097]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Nothing wrong with chasing homeless people from retail stores. I do it all the time. Not a conservative/liberal issue. Homeless are no good for business; they can’t be there. 
 

What to do with them in general is a bigger, different question, and THATS where liberals and conservatives are likely to disagree. 

What should be done with them? 

[RLLD 4,156]

I am amazed at the things people say.  The things they suggest as "solutions".  it is as if they have never stepped foot into the real world and observed what the average person is actually like....

just talk to them, and ask them not to hang around

I mean, you have got to be out of your focking mind....

[wiffleball 4,789]

Well, it's a bit disingenuous. 7-Eleven makes a fortune by taking food stamps. They cater to the homeless by finding workarounds to various food stamp restrictions.  

 

I'm not saying grocery stores don't usually take food stamps. But bear in mind that most of the homeless don't have access to refrigeration. So a lot of what you see at 7-Eleven are single meal items like microwave burritos and breakfast sandwiches etc.

 

Oftentimes, They also are the number one purveyor of single tall boy cheap crappy beers.  In colorado, they even found a way to sell fireball in tiny little bottles at the counter.  No other convenience chain does that. These guys can't afford a whole bottle or six pack. But once they scrounge $2? They head right for 7-eleven.

Oh, and by the way? They're about the only place in town that sells that crap first thing in the morning. Even liquor stores don't open till 10:00. 

They also peddle bottom of the barrel crap cigarettes at the cheapest price they can. 

So, they take from them with their left hand and shoo them Away with the right.

And from what I've seen around here, the music doesn't do diddly. 

It'd be really freaking easy to get them not to hang around. But the dirty Little secret is, The homeless represent about 40% of their non gasoline revenue in certain neighborhoods.

 

 

 

 

 

[Strike 5,314]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What should be done with them? 

I'm sure Tim takes them in and let's them stay with his family in the house his dad bought.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,097]

21 minutes ago, Strike said:

I'm sure Tim takes them in and let's them stay with his family in the house his dad bought.

In NYC there was constant vigilance dealing with the homeless during the Guilliani and Bloomberg years. They were either given the choice to go to a shelter, go to a hospital if need be or spend a few days in jail.  They were not allowed to set up anywhere. There was a homeless outreach unit in every borough. Yes, it was a bit of a whack a mole thing going on, but it kept many of them off the street at any given time.  Deblasio came in and said it was mean and guess what? Yeah, that’s what.  Now Adams wants to go back to it. Too late E, no more cash bail.  They just walk back out after a few hours. 

[Djgb13 2,339]

Who gives a rats ass. The homeless shouldn’t be hanging out there anyway. Fock em. And yes I’m drunk Idgaf. Sh1t ton of them down here in Nashville. 

[craftsman 1,045]

2 hours ago, wiffleball said:

Well, it's a bit disingenuous. 7-Eleven makes a fortune by taking food stamps. They cater to the homeless by finding workarounds to various food stamp restrictions.  

 

I'm not saying grocery stores don't usually take food stamps. But bear in mind that most of the homeless don't have access to refrigeration. So a lot of what you see at 7-Eleven are single meal items like microwave burritos and breakfast sandwiches etc.

 

Oftentimes, They also are the number one purveyor of single tall boy cheap crappy beers.  In colorado, they even found a way to sell fireball in tiny little bottles at the counter.  No other convenience chain does that. These guys can't afford a whole bottle or six pack. But once they scrounge $2? They head right for 7-eleven.

Oh, and by the way? They're about the only place in town that sells that crap first thing in the morning. Even liquor stores don't open till 10:00. 

They also peddle bottom of the barrel crap cigarettes at the cheapest price they can. 

So, they take from them with their left hand and shoo them Away with the right.

And from what I've seen around here, the music doesn't do diddly. 

It'd be really freaking easy to get them not to hang around. But the dirty Little secret is, The homeless represent about 40% of their non gasoline revenue in certain neighborhoods.

 

 

 

 

 

I don't get it. It's a store. Walk in, get what you wamt, and leave. It's not a shelter. All they are doing is discouraging people from wanting to hang out there begging from and causing trouble for their patrons.

And Circle K sells liquor and cheep beer as well depending on the location. 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,756]

Have they tried Slim Whitman?  He thwarted an alien invasion in the movies.  

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

15 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What should be done with them? 

Hey HT I’m a liberal, bleeding heart. Of course I want to spend your tax money to help them! Would you expect any different? 

[Gepetto 1,319]

 

[craftsman 1,045]

45 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Hey HT I’m a liberal, bleeding heart. Of course I want to spend your tax money to help them! Would you expect any different? 

Why don't you just use your own money to do whatever you want to do?

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

14 minutes ago, craftsman said:

Why don't you just use your own money to do whatever you want to do?

Because I’m a bleeding heart. My liberal white guilt spreads beyond me to encompass all of society. Everyone must pay to assuage my guilt. 

[craftsman 1,045]

17 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Because I’m a bleeding heart. My liberal white guilt spreads beyond me to encompass all of society. Everyone must pay to assuage my guilt. 

I get you are an uninformed bleeding heart that is so pitiful that you feel guilt about yourself, and that you wouldn't know how to recognize the source of a problem if it hit you in the head, but why don't you just do you and stop telling others to do things for you?

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

Just now, craftsman said:

I get you are an uninformed bleeding heart that is so pitiful that you feel guilt about yourself, and that you wouldn't know how to recognize the source of a problem if it hit you in the head, but why don't you just do you and stop telling others to do things for you?

Oh I can’t. Liberalism is a collective thing. When one of us feels pain, everybody has to feel it. 

[craftsman 1,045]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

Oh I can’t. Liberalism is a collective thing. When one of us feels pain, everybody has to feel it. 

I don't disagree with you when you say that is what the liberal collective is all about. But I don't care. Other than you are all destructive and intolerable and bad for this country. 

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

4 minutes ago, craftsman said:

I don't disagree with you when you say that is what the liberal collective is all about. But I don't care. Other than you are all destructive and intolerable and bad for this country. 

Yeah but we’re fun to party with. And your kids prefer us to you. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,097]

14 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yeah but we’re fun to party with. And your kids prefer us to you. 

Soft and delicate.  

[Mookz 1,338]

This will either work or draw a more refined class of homeless.  

[easilyscan 899]

I talked to a homeless man this morning & asked him how he ended up this way ?
He said, "Up until last week, I had it all. I had plenty to eat, my clothes were washed & pressed, I had a roof over my head, 
I had TV & Internet, I went to the gym, the pool, & the library.  
I was working on my MBA on-line.  I had no bills & no debt. I even had full medical & dental coverage."

I felt sorry for him, so I asked, "What happened? Drugs? Alcohol? Divorce?"

"Oh no, nothing like that," he said. "No, no. I just got out of prison."