posty 2,296 Posted February 2, 2023 What if she was 40-years-old instead? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,755 Posted February 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, squistion said: But if every instance they knew the identity of the shooter and the circumstances of the shooting, which is not the case here. The Ferguson riots contradict that claim. “ Hands up, don’t shoot”. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, squistion said: But if every instance they knew the identity of the shooter and the circumstances of the shooting, which is not the case here. Except for when the teen was shot in DC for searching cars....right? Oh and, yes, there are more, but I am not going to spend too much time researching for you. Put it this way, you assertion will not stand up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 905 Posted February 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, RLLD said: Except for when the teen was shot in DC for searching cars....right? Oh and, yes, there are more, but I am not going to spend too much time researching for you. Put it this way, you assertion will not stand up. So they didn't know who shot him, why or any of the circumstances surrounding it and a protest started within a few hours? I don't recall that example, or any other instances of instant protests based on scant information like this (people rarely engage in protests when they don't know what they are protesting). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,755 Posted February 2, 2023 Just now, squistion said: So they didn't know who shot him, why or any of the circumstances surrounding it and a protest started within a few hours? I don't recall that example, or any other instances of instant protests based on scant information like this (people rarely engage in protests when they don't know what they are protesting). Obviously in Ferguson they didn’t know and went ahead and rioted anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted February 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, squistion said: So they didn't know who shot him, why or any of the circumstances surrounding it and a protest started within a few hours? I don't recall that example, or any other instances of instant protests based on scant information like this (people rarely engage in protests when they don't know what they are protesting). Yes, but I am disinclined to pull them all up....suffice it to say that overreaction does transpire, if the situation is useful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 905 Posted February 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, RLLD said: Yes, but I am disinclined to pull them all up....suffice it to say that overreaction does transpire, if the situation is useful. If I didn't have any proof to back up a claim I would be disinclined to pull it up too . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, squistion said: If I didn't have any proof to back up a claim I would be disinclined to pull it up too . Right, I should have mentioned you would try that.....I will provide this and then if you are too lazy to investigate on your own that is on you. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/washington-dc-employee-accused-killing-teen-turns-police-rcna68355 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 905 Posted February 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Obviously in Ferguson they didn’t know and went ahead and rioted anyway. Not true. After Michael Brown was shot and killed it on August 9th, it was known that it was by a police officer. The protests did not occur until late the next day on August 10th. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_unrest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,012 Posted February 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, squistion said: If I didn't have any proof to back up a claim I would be disinclined to pull it up too . Not sure what you're laughing at. Pretty sure the only proof I've ever seen you provide, over years, are random tweets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 905 Posted February 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, RLLD said: Right, I should have mentioned you would try that.....I will provide this and then if you are too lazy to investigate on your own that is on you. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/washington-dc-employee-accused-killing-teen-turns-police-rcna68355 Can't read the link because of an ad-block so I still don't know what you are talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 905 Posted February 2, 2023 Just now, Strike said: Not sure what you're laughing at. Pretty sure the only proof I've ever seen you provide, over years, are random tweets. Pretty sure you are wrong. When my tweets contained a factual claim, there was always a link to an article or news account verifying it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,012 Posted February 2, 2023 Just now, squistion said: Pretty sure you are wrong. When my tweets contained a factual claim, there was always a link to an article or news account verifying it. Oh, bull. You and Tim can try to remake yourselves here but those of us who have posted at FBG's for years know the truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted February 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, squistion said: Pretty sure you are wrong. When my tweets contained a factual claim, there was always a link to an article or news account verifying it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 905 Posted February 2, 2023 Just now, craftsman said: What does this video of Joe Biden have to do with anything I've said? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,755 Posted February 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, squistion said: Not true. After Michael Brown was shot and killed it on August 9th, it was known that it was by a police officer. The protests did not occur until late the next day on August 10th. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_unrest You said circumstances were known. Obviously not true. The police did it was all that was needed. L Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted February 2, 2023 1 minute ago, squistion said: What does this video of Joe Biden have to do with anything I've said? It's a video account of someone being a serial liar. A link to the truth as you say. It reminds me of you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 295 Posted February 2, 2023 Why would anyone's first thought be that her murder had something to do with politics? A vast majority of these crimes are done by somebody the victim knows or is a completely random thing. It could be political, but I'll wager anybody here any amount that it wasn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 295 Posted February 2, 2023 47 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Obviously in Ferguson they didn’t know and went ahead and rioted anyway. Michael Brown's body lay on the street for hours, there were people on that street within minutes of that shooting, all of them knew he was shot by a cop. You are completely wrong. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,755 Posted February 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, paulinstl said: Michael Brown's body lay on the street for hours, there were people on that street within minutes of that shooting, all of them knew he was shot by a cop. You are completely wrong. They didn’t know the circumstances. Borne out by the “hands up don’t shoot” bullshit that was debunked. L Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 295 Posted February 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: They didn’t know the circumstances. Borne out by the “hands up don’t shoot” bullshit that was debunked. L They all knew the circumstances, a white cop shot a black teen and his body lay on the street for four hours. There were hundreds of people out on that street that night. The organized protests and the ensuing rioting happened the next night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,654 Posted February 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, paulinstl said: They all knew the circumstances, a white cop shot a black teen and his body lay on the street for four hours. There were hundreds of people out on that street that night. The organized protests and the ensuing rioting happened the next night. Look, I don't know if you've ever actually seen a crime scene, but I've watched almost every episode of law & order and I can tell you one of the first things they do when they find a body in the street is they take some chalk and draw an outline around the whole body. Do you know how hard it is to find black chalk? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 295 Posted February 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, wiffleball said: Look, I don't know if you've ever actually seen a crime scene, but I've watched almost every episode of law & order and I can tell you one of the first things they do when they find a body in the street is they take some chalk and draw an outline around the whole body. Do you know how hard it is to find black chalk? Wouldn't they use white chalk for contrast? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,235 Posted February 2, 2023 41 minutes ago, paulinstl said: Why would anyone's first thought be that her murder had something to do with politics? A vast majority of these crimes are done by somebody the victim knows or is a completely random thing. It could be political, but I'll wager anybody here any amount that it wasn't. I guess this is directed at me. My first thought was that it had something to do with politics because otherwise it is a random woman shot and killed and here we are on page two of a message board discussing it. In the time it took me to type this, some other random person was probably killed. Should we start a thread on that person? ETA: And I didn't say or otherwise imply that it was a crazy lib. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 295 Posted February 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I guess this is directed at me. My first thought was that it had something to do with politics because otherwise it is a random woman shot and killed and here we are on page two of a message board discussing it. In the time it took me to type this, some other random person was probably killed. Should we start a thread on that person? ETA: And I didn't say or otherwise imply that it was a crazy lib. A political line of thought was brought up pretty early in this thread. I understood your original post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 905 Posted February 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I guess this is directed at me. My first thought was that it had something to do with politics because otherwise it is a random woman shot and killed and here we are on page two of a message board discussing it. In the time it took me to type this, some other random person was probably killed. Should we start a thread on that person? People are always immediately looking for a motive for any shooting/murder, and in all fairness, that would probably be the first thing that came to my mind for a politician who was shot, that it was somehow related to the office they held. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,610 Posted February 2, 2023 52 minutes ago, paulinstl said: Why would anyone's first thought be that her murder had something to do with politics? A vast majority of these crimes are done by somebody the victim knows or is a completely random thing. It could be political, but I'll wager anybody here any amount that it wasn't. Because if it was a democrat it would already be being reported as a white nationalist hate crime 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,755 Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, paulinstl said: Why would anyone's first thought be that her murder had something to do with politics? A vast majority of these crimes are done by somebody the victim knows or is a completely random thing. It could be political, but I'll wager anybody here any amount that it wasn't. She’s a politician? Should no one speculate that a politician being murdered might be political? A chance? Methinks what bothers you is that she’s of one political party and not the other. Just a hunch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 839 Posted February 2, 2023 Something tells me Al Sharpton won’t be eulogizing her and Kamala Harris will not be attending her funeral. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 295 Posted February 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: Something tells me Al Sharpton won’t be eulogizing her and Kamala Harris will not be attending her funeral. Why would they? I guarantee it was something personal, or if not a crime gone bad. Again, a purely political garbage post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulinstl 295 Posted February 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: She’s a politician? Should no one speculate that a politician being murdered might be political? A chance? Methinks what bothers you is that she’s of one political party and not the other. Just a hunch City Council. Give me a break. Maximum rolleyes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,013 Posted February 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Strike said: Oh, bull. You and Tim can try to remake yourselves here but those of us who have posted at FBG's for years know the truth. Apparently you don’t. Squistion’s description is accurate. You had a skewed version of both him and me over there and you‘ve carried it with you over here. You act like a little child in your criticisms; I wish you’d grow up for once. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 839 Posted February 2, 2023 23 minutes ago, paulinstl said: Why would they? I guarantee it was something personal, or if not a crime gone bad. Again, a purely political garbage post. Why would they eulogize Tyre Nichols? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Probst 38 Posted February 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Jeff Probst said: 1) She wasn't a politician. Aside from her role on Sayreville Borough Council, Dwumford was a mother and an IT business professional who had worked at several places on the East Coast since 2014, both for businesses and churches. On LinkedIn, Eunice Dwumfour listed her job as director of churches for Champions Royal Assembly in Newark, where she had worked since May 2015, and as a Scrum software coach and IT business analyst at Fire Congress Fellowship, Inc. 2) There is nothing to suggest this was a targeted political hit. https://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/crime/2023/02/02/sayreville-nj-councilwoman-eunice-dwumfour-shot-killed/69865514007/ Just because you sit on your town council doesn't mean you're a politician. Sayreville is a small town. I have considered joining my town council before, I'm not a politician. @jerryskids Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,235 Posted February 3, 2023 18 minutes ago, Jeff Probst said: @jerryskids What is it you are asking? As per your link the FBI involved, which implies the chance it is more than just a murder. Also city councilpeople often aren't full time positions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Probst 38 Posted February 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, jerryskids said: What is it you are asking? As per your link the FBI involved, which implies the chance it is more than just a murder. Also city councilpeople often aren't full time positions. Just giving you an explanation as to why you were wrong since you still seemed to think this was a politically motivated crime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,235 Posted February 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Jeff Probst said: Just giving you an explanation as to why you were wrong since you still seemed to think this was a politically motivated crime. Oh, OK, thanks then. Can you point out in your link where it says it was not a politically motivated crime? Also point out where it explains why the FBI is involved if there is no chance it is politically motivated. Thanks again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,012 Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: Apparently you don’t. Squistion’s description is accurate. You had a skewed version of both him and me over there and you‘ve carried it with you over here. You act like a little child in your criticisms; I wish you’d grow up for once. You are both acting the same way here that you did there. And why wouldn't you? You, in particular, are funny because you had a very clear pattern over there: 1) Get suspended. 2) Come back after your suspension and admit you had crossed Joe's lines and vow to be better. 3) Be on your best behavior. 3) Over the course of a couple of weeks slowly revert back to your old self. A month or two later, boom. Suspended. Rinse and repeat. The only thing I never figured out is what you had over Joe. Clearly, you've got compromising pics of him or something because no one has been suspended nearly as much as you and not been permabanned over there. The good news is, you probably won't get suspended over here. Mike's line is harder to cross than Joe's. The bad news. We don't have to coddle you here or risk our own suspension. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeff Probst 38 Posted February 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Oh, OK, thanks then. Can you point out in your link where it says it was not a politically motivated crime? Also point out where it explains why the FBI is involved if there is no chance it is politically motivated. Thanks again. The link does not say that the crime was not politically motivated, it also does not say it was. Come on man. Also the FBI being involved doesn't mean it's political either. Don't be stupid. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 3,013 Posted February 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, Strike said: You are both acting the same way here that you did there. And why wouldn't you? You, in particular, are funny because you had a very clear pattern over there: 1) Get suspended. 2) Come back after your suspension and admit you had crossed Joe's lines and vow to be better. 3) Be on your best behavior. 3) Over the course of a couple of weeks slowly revert back to your old self. A month or two later, boom. Suspended. Rinse and repeat. The only thing I never figured out is what you had over Joe. Clearly, you've got compromising pics of him or something because no one has been suspended nearly as much as you and not been permabanned over there. The good news is, you probably won't get suspended over here. Mike's line is harder to cross than Joe's. The bad news. We don't have to coddle you here or risk our own suspension. Did you just start a thread about “socialist Democrats” and then pull it? What was that about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites