Black Female Republican councilman gunned down

[posty 2,296]

What if she was 40-years-old instead?

[Hardcore troubadour 12,652]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

But if every instance they knew the identity of the shooter and the circumstances of the shooting, which is not the case here.

The Ferguson riots contradict that claim. “ Hands up, don’t shoot”.  

[RLLD 3,455]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

But if every instance they knew the identity of the shooter and the circumstances of the shooting, which is not the case here.

Except for when the teen was shot in DC for searching cars....right? Oh and, yes, there are more, but I am not going to spend too much time researching for you.

Put it this way, you assertion will not stand up. 

[squistion 896]

7 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Except for when the teen was shot in DC for searching cars....right? Oh and, yes, there are more, but I am not going to spend too much time researching for you.

Put it this way, you assertion will not stand up. 

So they didn't know who shot him, why or any of the circumstances surrounding it and a protest started within a few hours? I don't recall that example, or any other instances of instant protests based on scant information like this (people rarely engage in protests when they don't know what they are protesting). 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,652]

Just now, squistion said:

So they didn't know who shot him, why or any of the circumstances surrounding it and a protest started within a few hours? I don't recall that example, or any other instances of instant protests based on scant information like this (people rarely engage in protests when they don't know what they are protesting). 

Obviously in Ferguson they didn’t know and went ahead and rioted anyway.  

[RLLD 3,455]

2 minutes ago, squistion said:

So they didn't know who shot him, why or any of the circumstances surrounding it and a protest started within a few hours? I don't recall that example, or any other instances of instant protests based on scant information like this (people rarely engage in protests when they don't know what they are protesting). 

Yes, but I am disinclined to pull them all up....suffice it to say that overreaction does transpire, if the situation is useful. 

[squistion 896]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Yes, but I am disinclined to pull them all up....suffice it to say that overreaction does transpire, if the situation is useful. 

If I didn't have any proof to back up a claim I would be disinclined to pull it up too 

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[RLLD 3,455]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

If I didn't have any proof to back up a claim I would be disinclined to pull it up too 

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Right, I should have mentioned you would try that.....I will provide this and then if you are too lazy to investigate on your own that is on you.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/washington-dc-employee-accused-killing-teen-turns-police-rcna68355

 

[squistion 896]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Obviously in Ferguson they didn’t know and went ahead and rioted anyway.  

Not true. After Michael Brown was shot and killed it on August 9th, it was known that it was by a police officer. The protests did not occur until late the next day on August 10th. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_unrest

 

[Strike 3,979]

6 minutes ago, squistion said:

If I didn't have any proof to back up a claim I would be disinclined to pull it up too 

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Not sure what you're laughing at.  Pretty sure the only proof I've ever seen you provide, over years, are random tweets.  

[squistion 896]

3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Right, I should have mentioned you would try that.....I will provide this and then if you are too lazy to investigate on your own that is on you.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/washington-dc-employee-accused-killing-teen-turns-police-rcna68355

Can't read the link because of an ad-block so I still don't know what you are talking about. 

[squistion 896]

Just now, Strike said:

Not sure what you're laughing at.  Pretty sure the only proof I've ever seen you provide, over years, are random tweets.  

Pretty sure you are wrong. When my tweets contained a factual claim, there was always a link to an article or news account verifying it. 

[Strike 3,979]

Just now, squistion said:

Pretty sure you are wrong. When my tweets contained a factual claim, there was always a link to an article or news account verifying it. 

Oh, bull.  You and Tim can try to remake yourselves here but those of us who have posted at FBG's for years know the truth. 

[craftsman 1,045]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

Pretty sure you are wrong. When my tweets contained a factual claim, there was always a link to an article or news account verifying it. 

 

[squistion 896]

Just now, craftsman said:

 

 

What does this video of Joe Biden have to do with anything I've said? 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,652]

13 minutes ago, squistion said:

Not true. After Michael Brown was shot and killed it on August 9th, it was known that it was by a police officer. The protests did not occur until late the next day on August 10th. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_unrest

 

You said circumstances were known. Obviously not true.  The police did it was all that was needed. L

[craftsman 1,045]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

 

What does this video of Joe Biden have to do with anything I've said? 

It's a video account of someone being a serial liar. A link to the truth as you say. 

It reminds me of you.

[paulinstl 295]

Why would anyone's first thought be that her murder had something to do with politics? A vast majority of these crimes are done by somebody the victim knows or is a completely random thing. It could be political, but I'll wager anybody here any amount that it wasn't.

[paulinstl 295]

47 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Obviously in Ferguson they didn’t know and went ahead and rioted anyway.  

Michael Brown's body lay on the street for hours, there were people on that street within minutes of that shooting, all of them knew he was shot by a cop. You are completely wrong.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,652]

2 minutes ago, paulinstl said:

Michael Brown's body lay on the street for hours, there were people on that street within minutes of that shooting, all of them knew he was shot by a cop. You are completely wrong.

They didn’t know the circumstances. Borne out by the “hands up don’t shoot” bullshit that was debunked. L

[paulinstl 295]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They didn’t know the circumstances. Borne out by the “hands up don’t shoot” bullshit that was debunked. L

They all knew the circumstances, a white cop shot a black teen and his body lay on the street for four hours. There were hundreds of people out on that street that night. The organized protests and the ensuing rioting happened the next night.

 

[wiffleball 4,642]

4 minutes ago, paulinstl said:

They all knew the circumstances, a white cop shot a black teen and his body lay on the street for four hours. There were hundreds of people out on that street that night. The organized protests and the ensuing rioting happened the next night.

 

Look, I don't know if you've ever actually seen a crime scene, but I've watched almost every episode of law & order and I can tell you one of the first things they do when they find a body in the street is they take some chalk and draw an outline around the whole body.

 

Do you know how hard it is to find black chalk?

[paulinstl 295]

2 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Look, I don't know if you've ever actually seen a crime scene, but I've watched almost every episode of law & order and I can tell you one of the first things they do when they find a body in the street is they take some chalk and draw an outline around the whole body.

 

Do you know how hard it is to find black chalk?

Wouldn't they use white chalk for contrast?

 

[jerryskids 5,206]

41 minutes ago, paulinstl said:

Why would anyone's first thought be that her murder had something to do with politics? A vast majority of these crimes are done by somebody the victim knows or is a completely random thing. It could be political, but I'll wager anybody here any amount that it wasn't.

I guess this is directed at me.  My first thought was that it had something to do with politics because otherwise it is a random woman shot and killed and here we are on page two of a message board discussing it.  In the time it took me to type this, some other random person was probably killed.  Should we start a thread on that person?   

ETA:  And I didn't say or otherwise imply that it was a crazy lib. 

[paulinstl 295]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I guess this is directed at me.  My first thought was that it had something to do with politics because otherwise it is a random woman shot and killed and here we are on page two of a message board discussing it.  In the time it took me to type this, some other random person was probably killed.  Should we start a thread on that person?   

ETA:  And I didn't say or otherwise imply that it was a crazy lib. 

A political line of thought was brought up pretty early in this thread. I understood your original post.

[squistion 896]

7 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I guess this is directed at me.  My first thought was that it had something to do with politics because otherwise it is a random woman shot and killed and here we are on page two of a message board discussing it.  In the time it took me to type this, some other random person was probably killed.  Should we start a thread on that person?   

People are always immediately looking for a motive for any shooting/murder, and in all fairness, that would probably be the first thing that came to my mind for a politician who was shot, that it was somehow related to the office they held.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,584]

52 minutes ago, paulinstl said:

Why would anyone's first thought be that her murder had something to do with politics? A vast majority of these crimes are done by somebody the victim knows or is a completely random thing. It could be political, but I'll wager anybody here any amount that it wasn't.

Because  if it was a democrat it would already be being reported as a white nationalist hate crime 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,652]

1 hour ago, paulinstl said:

Why would anyone's first thought be that her murder had something to do with politics? A vast majority of these crimes are done by somebody the victim knows or is a completely random thing. It could be political, but I'll wager anybody here any amount that it wasn't.

She’s a politician? Should no one  speculate that a politician being murdered might be political? A chance? Methinks what bothers you is that she’s of one political party and not the other. Just a hunch

[Dizkneelande 839]

Something tells me Al Sharpton won’t be eulogizing her and Kamala Harris will not be attending her funeral. 

[paulinstl 295]

2 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Something tells me Al Sharpton won’t be eulogizing her and Kamala Harris will not be attending her funeral. 

Why would they? I guarantee it was something personal, or if not a crime gone bad. Again, a purely political garbage post.

[paulinstl 295]

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

She’s a politician? Should no one  speculate that a politician being murdered might be political? A chance? Methinks what bothers you is that she’s of one political party and not the other. Just a hunch

City Council. Give me a break.

 

Maximum rolleyes

 

[The Real timschochet 2,939]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

Oh, bull.  You and Tim can try to remake yourselves here but those of us who have posted at FBG's for years know the truth. 

Apparently you don’t. Squistion’s description is accurate. You had a skewed version of both him and me over there and you‘ve carried it with you over here. You act like a little child in your criticisms; I wish you’d grow up for once. 

[Dizkneelande 839]

23 minutes ago, paulinstl said:

Why would they? I guarantee it was something personal, or if not a crime gone bad. Again, a purely political garbage post.

Why would they eulogize Tyre Nichols?

[Jeff Probst 38]

3 hours ago, Jeff Probst said:

1) She wasn't a politician.

Aside from her role on Sayreville Borough Council, Dwumford was a mother and an IT business professional who had worked at several places on the East Coast since 2014, both for businesses and churches.

On LinkedIn, Eunice Dwumfour listed her job as director of churches for Champions Royal Assembly in Newark, where she had worked since May 2015, and as a Scrum software coach and IT business analyst at Fire Congress Fellowship, Inc.

2) There is nothing to suggest this was a targeted political hit.

https://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/crime/2023/02/02/sayreville-nj-councilwoman-eunice-dwumfour-shot-killed/69865514007/

Just because you sit on your town council doesn't mean you're a politician.  Sayreville is a small town.  I have considered joining my town council before, I'm not a politician.

@jerryskids

[jerryskids 5,206]

18 minutes ago, Jeff Probst said:

@jerryskids

What is it you are asking?  As per your link the FBI involved, which implies the chance it is more than just a murder.  Also city councilpeople often aren't full time positions.

 

[Jeff Probst 38]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

What is it you are asking?  As per your link the FBI involved, which implies the chance it is more than just a murder.  Also city councilpeople often aren't full time positions.

 

Just giving you an explanation as to why you were wrong since you still seemed to think this was a politically motivated crime.

[jerryskids 5,206]

7 minutes ago, Jeff Probst said:

Just giving you an explanation as to why you were wrong since you still seemed to think this was a politically motivated crime.

Oh, OK, thanks then.  Can you point out in your link where it says it was not a politically motivated crime?  Also point out where it explains why the FBI is involved if there is no chance it is politically motivated.

Thanks again.   

[Strike 3,979]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

Apparently you don’t. Squistion’s description is accurate. You had a skewed version of both him and me over there and you‘ve carried it with you over here. You act like a little child in your criticisms; I wish you’d grow up for once. 

You are both acting the same way here that you did there.  And why wouldn't you?   You, in particular, are funny because you had a very clear pattern over there:

1)  Get suspended. 

2)  Come back after your suspension and admit you had crossed Joe's lines and vow to be better.

3)  Be on your best behavior.

3)  Over the course of a couple of weeks slowly revert back to your old self.  A month or two later, boom.  Suspended. 

Rinse and repeat.

The only thing I never figured out is what you had over Joe.  Clearly, you've got compromising pics of him  or something because no one has been suspended nearly as much as you and not been permabanned over there.

The good news is, you probably won't get suspended over here.  Mike's line is harder to cross than Joe's.  The bad news.  We don't have to coddle you here or risk our own suspension.

[Jeff Probst 38]

10 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Oh, OK, thanks then.  Can you point out in your link where it says it was not a politically motivated crime?  Also point out where it explains why the FBI is involved if there is no chance it is politically motivated.

Thanks again.   

The link does not say that the crime was not politically motivated, it also does not say it was.  Come on man.  Also the FBI being involved doesn't mean it's political either.  Don't be stupid.

[The Real timschochet 2,939]

8 minutes ago, Strike said:

You are both acting the same way here that you did there.  And why wouldn't you?   You, in particular, are funny because you had a very clear pattern over there:

1)  Get suspended. 

2)  Come back after your suspension and admit you had crossed Joe's lines and vow to be better.

3)  Be on your best behavior.

3)  Over the course of a couple of weeks slowly revert back to your old self.  A month or two later, boom.  Suspended. 

Rinse and repeat.

The only thing I never figured out is what you had over Joe.  Clearly, you've got compromising pics of him  or something because no one has been suspended nearly as much as you and not been permabanned over there.

The good news is, you probably won't get suspended over here.  Mike's line is harder to cross than Joe's.  The bad news.  We don't have to coddle you here or risk our own suspension.

Did you just start a thread about “socialist Democrats” and then pull it? What was that about?