seafoam1 3,535 Posted March 30, 2023 3 hours ago, TimHauck said: Well considering the flyer is referring to a specific event at the Supreme Court on Saturday, I don't think anyone needs to worry unless maybe you will also be at the Supreme Court on Saturday. Other than that, you should always be prepared for violence from anyone. But that's not what's being said here, we need to worry about the "rise in trans violence". Curious Jerry, since you love pointing out the increase in the # of LGBTQ folks, considering the increase in the % of people identifying as LGBTQ, do you think there has been a larger increase in the % of people committing violence? Definitely need to worry about the rise in trans violence. It needs to be shut down and stifled before it gets out of hand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,900 Posted March 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I’m not a liberal. When someone says they “will oppose something until their last breath” that is “the greatest evil our country faces,” that’s a synonym for hate. I can’t believe people are arguing this. Not people, just RLLD and Gladiators. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,900 Posted March 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gladiators said: I oppose the BLM movement. I don't hate black people. Why do you oppose the BLM movement? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,535 Posted March 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I’m not a liberal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,535 Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: Why do you oppose the BLM movement? They are race baiting, violent, crooks with morals as low as you liberals carry around with you. They are a disgusting organization that should be scrubbed off the face of this earth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 1,092 Posted March 30, 2023 On 3/29/2023 at 12:20 PM, WhiskeyCash said: Maxine Waters I’m looking at your black ass My condolences. I hope it doesn't cause any long-term damage. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,660 Posted March 30, 2023 37 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: They are race baiting, violent, crooks with morals as low as you liberals carry around with you. They are a disgusting organization that should be scrubbed off the face of this earth. It’s a racist organization. Anyone asking why you don’t support them is RaCiSt themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,283 Posted March 30, 2023 51 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I’m not a liberal. When someone says they “will oppose something until their last breath” that is “the greatest evil our country faces,” that’s a synonym for hate. I can’t believe people are arguing this. It is a better solution to oppose without hate, this was at one time the norm. That all changed with Obama. Now we have a hateful and violent setup. Sadly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,473 Posted March 30, 2023 53 minutes ago, Gladiators said: I oppose the BLM movement. I don't hate black people. Not a good comparison. A better one would be saying you opposed the civil rights movement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,283 Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: Not a good comparison. A better one would be saying you opposed the civil rights movement. No it would be more apt to assert that he opposes marxism that opposes families and hides behind a seemingly positive moniker to hide its intent. BLM and the civil rights movement are mutually exclusive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,473 Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, RLLD said: No it would be more apt to assert that he opposes marxism that opposes families and hides behind a seemingly positive moniker to hide its intent. BLM and the civil rights movement are mutually exclusive. My point is the civil rights movement is more similar to the "trans movement" than BLM is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,283 Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: My point is the civil rights movement is more similar to the "trans movement" than BLM is. I think that is a fair point to make. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,559 Posted March 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, RLLD said: BLM and the civil rights movement are mutually exclusive. I don’t agree with this statement. I don’t believe you can make a compelling argument to back it up either. Not if you actually spend time studying the background and facts of the Civil Rights movement (which had extremists and Marxists heavily involved from the very beginning.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,559 Posted March 30, 2023 The civil rights movement in this country was from beginning to end a leftist movement, often extreme leftist. It was opposed, not just by racists, but by conservatives who were not racist but didn’t believe in federal government interference in state affairs. It’s important not to rewrite the actual history in order for modern day conservatives to feel less guilty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 2,035 Posted March 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Not a good comparison. A better one would be saying you opposed the civil rights movement. I disagree. Regardless, my point remains. One can be against a movement and not hate the group behind the movement. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,473 Posted March 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gladiators said: I disagree. Regardless, my point remains. One can be against a movement and not hate the group behind the movement. It's not just "against" the movement, it's calling it the "greatest evil this country faces." If someone said the civil rights movement was the greatest evil the country faced at that time, would you think they liked black people? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,559 Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: It's not just "against" the movement, it's calling it the "greatest evil this country faces." If someone said the civil rights movement was the greatest evil the country faced at that time, would you think they liked black people? Actually J Edgar Hoover did come very close to saying this, and I don’t believe racism was his motivation. He simply believed that the Civil Rights movement was loaded with Communists and therefore under the control of the Soviet Union. He was right, partially, about the first part, but extremely wrong about the second part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,283 Posted March 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I don’t agree with this statement. I don’t believe you can make a compelling argument to back it up either. Not if you actually spend time studying the background and facts of the Civil Rights movement (which had extremists and Marxists heavily involved from the very beginning.) BLM stole millions from good people who thought they were donating to a worthy cause. And as Patrice Culler said in 2015 ""We do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia, in particular, are trained organizers; we are trained Marxists. We are superversed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think what we really try to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many Black folks." So they stole from people, are Marxists. Ther pretend that there are people who think black lives dont matter, they do this because they understand it is a hidden fear, and one that they can play on as the racial hucksters they are. They know that putting liptsitck on a pig will work jsut fine because there are plenty of people out there who will fall for it. Of course black lives matter, so too do Asian lives and every other life....its only in the paropaganist ventures to divide us that this farcical notion arises. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 2,035 Posted March 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: It's not just "against" the movement, it's calling it the "greatest evil this country faces." If someone said the civil rights movement was the greatest evil the country faced at that time, would you think they liked black people? It would depend on their reasoning for why they felt it was the greatest evil the country faced at the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,559 Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, RLLD said: BLM stole millions from good people who thought they were donating to a worthy cause. And as Patrice Culler said in 2015 ""We do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia, in particular, are trained organizers; we are trained Marxists. We are superversed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think what we really try to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many Black folks." So they stole from people, are Marxists. Ther pretend that there are people who think black lives dont matter, they do this because they understand it is a hidden fear, and one that they can play on as the racial hucksters they are. They know that putting liptsitck on a pig will work jsut fine because there are plenty of people out there who will fall for it. Of course black lives matter, so too do Asian lives and every other life....its only in the paropaganist ventures to divide us that this farcical notion arises. None of what you wrote is false. But the Civil Rights Movement had all of this too. It had hucksters, it had Marxists, it had extremists who wanted to destroy capitalism. These facts are ignored today because of the good that it achieved. Hopefully BLM (the slogan) will achieve some good as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,090 Posted March 30, 2023 Wait, Trans are being denied rights? Which ones? It’s definitely not the right to keep and bear arms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,050 Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: Just curious if you understand what the word agenda means....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,050 Posted March 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Wait, Trans are being denied rights? Which ones? It’s definitely not the right to keep and bear arms. Squiz will be along to tell us shortly. He doesn't think the alphabet people have ANY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,283 Posted March 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: None of what you wrote is false. But the Civil Rights Movement had all of this too. It had hucksters, it had Marxists, it had extremists who wanted to destroy capitalism. These facts are ignored today because of the good that it achieved. Hopefully BLM (the slogan) will achieve some good as well. BLM is counter to the goal of AA's. And it stole the goodwill. It is based on a lie. No one devalues black lives, that is a fear from a time gone by that people exploit them through. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,090 Posted March 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Strike said: Squiz will be along to tell us shortly. He doesn't think the alphabet people have ANY. Regulating a right is not abolishing a right. We regulate many rights. Why does that basic truth escape them? They are screaming to regulate the 2a, not abolish it. Do they not realize this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,559 Posted March 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, RLLD said: . It is based on a lie. No one devalues black lives, Again I have to take strong issue with this assertion. It is simply the opposite of reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,136 Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, seafoam1 said: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,535 Posted March 30, 2023 20 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Again I have to take strong issue with this assertion. It is simply the opposite of reality. Kind of like you devalue the lives of illegals here in the US? And we all know how you do that. So don't even pretend you don't. I wouldn't compare the two. You devalue lives in reality. The only black lives conservatives devalue are the black lives that cheat, steal, kill, abandon their kids, and look for handouts in the name of racism instead of taking upon themselves to grow into society like so many other cultures have done in the past in the US. Become an American, instead of trying to force Americans to give in to whatever culture you claim to stand for in place of ours. You are the evil in this country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,473 Posted March 30, 2023 Tucker got duped by a fake tweet https://www.mediamatters.org/4chan/4chan-anti-trans-hoax-about-trans-day-vengeance-spread-twitter-various-right-wing-figures Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,050 Posted March 30, 2023 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: Tucker got duped by a fake tweet https://www.mediamatters.org/4chan/4chan-anti-trans-hoax-about-trans-day-vengeance-spread-twitter-various-right-wing-figures Kind of like that tweet that led you to believe SBF wasn't going to testify in front of congress? THAT kind of fake tweet? 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,473 Posted March 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Strike said: Kind of like that tweet that led you to believe SBF wasn't going to testify in front of congress? THAT kind of fake tweet? That wasn't fake. He wasn't planning to testify in front of the Senate, but I didn't realize there were 2 hearings. Apparently for some reason he was planning to testify in front of the House but not the Senate. And of course we'll never know if he actually would have, I'd still bet his lying azz would have chickened out. Also, remember when you ridiculed me for bringing up unrelated topics? Good times, hypocrite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,050 Posted March 30, 2023 Just now, TimHauck said: That wasn't fake. He wasn't planning to testify in front of the Senate, but I didn't realize there were 2 hearings. Apparently for some reason he was planning to testify in front of the House but not the Senate. And of course we'll never know if he actually would have, I'd still bet his lying azz would have chickened out. Also, remember when you ridiculed me for bringing up unrelated topics? Good times, hypocrite. Uh, the discussion was about congress. Come on man. You already admitted you were wrong on this one. Don't backtrack now. And this is related. It's related to fake tweets and who falls for them. Apparently YOU and Tucker both do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,050 Posted March 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Also, remember when you ridiculed me for bringing up unrelated topics? Good times, hypocrite. Speaking of which, WTF does Tucker getting fooled by a tweet about the Trans Day of Vengeance have to do with the AZ press secretary resigning? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,090 Posted March 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Strike said: Speaking of which, WTF does Tucker getting fooled by a tweet about the Trans Day of Vengeance have to do with the AZ press secretary resigning? TCDS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,473 Posted March 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Strike said: Speaking of which, WTF does Tucker getting fooled by a tweet about the Trans Day of Vengeance have to do with the AZ press secretary resigning? He was replying to comments like the AZ press secretary's, and telling people to "be prepared" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites