AZ Gov. Hobbs' press secretary resigns after tweet suggesting gun violence against 'transphobes'

[Bert 1,129]

9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

you should always be prepared for violence from anyone.   

Statistically that violence is more likely to come from some groups than others, correct?

[TimHauck 3,473]

1 minute ago, Bert said:

Statistically that violence is more likely to come from some groups than others, correct?

any data that trans people are one of those groups?

[jerryskids 7,220]

13 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Well considering the flyer is referring to a specific event at the Supreme Court on Saturday, I don't think anyone needs to worry unless maybe you will also be at the Supreme Court on Saturday.

Other than that, you should always be prepared for violence from anyone.   But that's not what's being said here, we need to worry about the "rise in trans violence".   Curious Jerry, since you love pointing out the increase in the # of LGBTQ folks, considering the increase in the % of people identifying as LGBTQ, do you think there has been a larger increase in the % of people committing violence? 

I don't think the increase in # of LGBTQ folks is real, so I don't see the point in correlating them.  Plus the new ones are all... new, so we wouldn't have much data on them.  For similar reasons the arguments of "very few people want to detransition" are crap, because they are referring to a time where only the actual trans people did medical interventions.

[Bert 1,129]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

any data that trans people are one of those groups?

Please answer the question asked and stop deflecting.

[TimHauck 3,473]

9 minutes ago, Bert said:

Statistically that violence is more likely to come from some groups than others, correct?

Yes.   "Applying probability" is just a nice way of saying bias.   It may be "usually" right, but not always. 

Let me guess, you don't believe "white privilege" is a thing?   Because you just admitted it exists.

[TimHauck 3,473]

5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I don't think the increase in # of LGBTQ folks is real, so I don't see the point in correlating them.  Plus the new ones are all... new, so we wouldn't have much data on them.  For similar reasons the arguments of "very few people want to detransition" are crap, because they are referring to a time where only the actual trans people did medical interventions.

Do you think the "increase in trans violence" is real?

[Bert 1,129]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yes.   "Applying probability" is just a nice way of saying bias.   It may be "usually" right, but not always. 

Let me guess, you don't believe "white privilege" is a thing?   Because you just admitted it exists.

Funny how you don't say you have a bias when avoiding bad neighborhoods at night.  You call it being safe.

I believe it exists but not to the extent it is currently being presented.  It is another excuse being used instead of addressing what is causing the bias in the first place.  It is the easy way out to blame someone else rather than changing your own behavior and actions.     

[Gladiators 2,035]

11 minutes ago, Bert said:

Funny how you don't say you have a bias when avoiding bad neighborhoods at night.  You call it being safe.

I believe it exists but not to the extent it is currently being presented.  It is another excuse being used instead of addressing what is causing the bias in the first place.  It is the easy way out to blame someone else rather than changing your own behavior and actions.     

You have to remember, Tim is a hypocrite.

[TimHauck 3,473]

14 minutes ago, Bert said:

Funny how you don't say you have a bias when avoiding bad neighborhoods at night.  You call it being safe.

Did I say I don't have a bias, other than about whether politicians have a R or D next to their name?

[jerryskids 7,220]

42 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Do you think the "increase in trans violence" is real?

I haven't seen the numbers so it is hard to say.  Statistically, since there are so many more (arguably not real, but parts of society consider them real) trans people, you would expect more violence due to sheer volume.  It also seems, anecdotally, that through the acceptance (encouragement?) society is now giving trans people, they appear more emboldened to rant and be celebrated for it.

That being said, we do know that trans people have a slew of correlating mental issues. 

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Mental health in transgender individuals: a systematic review

Abstract

Several lines of evidence indicate the prevalence of mental health disorders in Transgender (TG) individuals is higher than that of cisgender individuals or the general population. In this systematic review, we aim to propose a summary of some of the most significant research investigating mental health disorders' prevalence among this population. We performed a double-blind systematic review using the Preferred Reporting Items for Systematic Reviews and Meta-analyses reporting (PRISMA) on PUBMED/MEDLINE and SCOPUS, specifically using peer-reviewed articles examining the mental health status of transgender (TG) individuals. This review did not exclude any research based on publication date. The last search was performed in February 2022. The employed search strategy led to the selection of 165 peer-reviewed articles. The majority of these papers presented a cross-sectional design with self-reported diagnoses and symptoms, signaling a significant prevalence of mental health disorders amongst TG Individuals. Of the reviewed articles, 72 examined the prevalence of mood and anxiety disorders; 8 examined eating disorders; 43 examined the prevalence of suicidal or self-harm ideation or behaviors; 5 papers examined the prevalence of trauma and stress-related disorders; 10 examined the frequency of personality disorders; 44 examined substance use disorders; and 9 papers examined the prevalence of autism spectrum disorder. Finally, 22 studies reported on the prevalence of TG individuals diagnosed with co-morbid mental health disorders or unspecified mental disorders. Our findings coincide with existing research, which indicates TG individuals do experience a higher prevalence of mental health disorders than that of the general population or cisgender individuals. However, further research is needed to address the existing gaps in knowledge.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36151828/

The psych community can't put that toothpaste back in the tube.  They CAN, however, reign in the message as to the CAUSE of these issues.  And, you'll be shocked to learn, it is because we are mean to them.

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Mental Health and the Transgender Population

Abstract

Although research into the physical and mental health disparities faced by transgender and gender nonconforming (TGNC) populations is becoming more popular, historically it has been limited. It is now recognized that TGNC people experience disproportionate rates of negative mental health outcomes relative to both their gender-normative, heterosexual peers, as well as their gender-normative lesbian, gay, and bisexual (LGB) peers. The theoretical basis of current transgender mental health research is rooted in the Minority Stress Model, which postulates that we live in a hetero-centric, gender-normative society that stigmatizes and discriminates against lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people, subjecting them to chronic stress (Hendricks & Testa, 2012; Meyer, 1995). This chronic, potentially compounding stress, is responsible for the increased risk of negative mental health outcomes in LGBT populations. TGNC people, in particular, may experience more adverse outcomes than their LGB peers due to rejection and discrimination within society at large as well as within the LGB community. [Journal of Psychosocial Nursing and Mental Health Services, 54(12), 44-48.].

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28001287/

Much like the vast majority of climate research is funded on the hypothesis that mankind is destroying the earth, expect most research from experts in the future to tell us that trans people are totally normal if not for societal stress.   

[RLLD 4,283]

1 hour ago, shadrap said:

May be mistaken but I have never seen or heard anything that confirms the cop who killed George Floyd was racist other than he was white & George was black.

Apparently that is all you need to know to make that assertion.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,590]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Justin might get his civil war after all.  It just won't be left vs right, it will be trans vs. trans-haters

who hates trans?

[MDC 8,141]

23 hours ago, League Champion said:

AZ Gov. Hobbs' press secretary resigns after tweet suggesting gun violence against 'transphobes'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/az-gov-hobbs-press-secretary-resigns-after-tweet-suggesting-gun-violence-against-transphobes

Good for forcing her out.  

[TimHauck 3,473]

5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

who hates trans?

Matt Walsh

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,590]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Matt Walsh

no he doesn't hate any of them, he thinks they need help and its morally sinful, but I assume youre one of those people who respects everyone's religious beliefs unless they are Christian

[TimHauck 3,473]

5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

no he doesn't hate any of them, he thinks they need help and its morally sinful, but I assume youre one of those people who respects everyone's religious beliefs unless they are Christian

 

 

 

[GutterBoy 2,900]

No hatred

[TimHauck 3,473]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

No hatred

Can probably add the 33 thousand people that liked that tweet to the list too

[iam90sbaby 2,727]

6 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

No hatred

 

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Can probably add the 33 thousand people that liked that tweet to the list too

Gay

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,590]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 

 

 

the movement is evil, trying to get kids to transition and get on puberty blockers is pure EVIL

[Reality 3,141]

10 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

No hatred

You missed a key word, go back and read it slower.

[MDC 8,141]

23 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 

 

 

The greatest evil our country faces? What a nut.

[TimHauck 3,473]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

The greatest evil our country faces? What a nut.

To be fair, this guy also said that people that choose not to have kids are trying to destroy the human race.   

[TimHauck 3,473]

14 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

the movement is evil, trying to get kids to transition and get on puberty blockers is pure EVIL

weird, I didn't see that in his tweet

[GutterBoy 2,900]

13 minutes ago, Reality said:

You missed a key word, go back and read it slower.

I didn't miss anything, go back and read it yourself.

[Reality 3,141]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

The greatest evil our country faces? What a nut.

Kids are pretty important in the big scheme of things.

[Gladiators 2,035]

Just now, TimHauck said:

weird, I didn't see that in his tweet

weird, I didn't see that he hates trans in his tweet

[Reality 3,141]

Just now, Gladiators said:

weird, I didn't see that he hates trans in his tweet

These fellas really struggle with reading comprehension.

[MDC 8,141]

Just now, Reality said:

Kids are pretty important in the big scheme of things.

Agreed but … the trans movement is the greatest evil we face? Not fentanyl, homelessness, class disparity, gun violence etc.?

I don’t think even Matt Walsh believes this. 

[GutterBoy 2,900]

16 minutes ago, Gladiators said:

weird, I didn't see that he hates trans in his tweet

He has "Transphobe Of The Year (2022)" in his profile for focks sake.

[RLLD 4,283]

48 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 

 

 

I would place liberals ahead of trans people.   Liberals actually hold positions of power, and are ruthless in harming people.  Trans people are just sort of comical

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,340]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

I haven't seen the numbers so it is hard to say.  Statistically, since there are so many more (arguably not real, but parts of society consider them real) trans people, you would expect more violence due to sheer volume.  It also seems, anecdotally, that through the acceptance (encouragement?) society is now giving trans people, they appear more emboldened to rant and be celebrated for it.

That being said, we do know that trans people have a slew of correlating mental issues. 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36151828/

The psych community can't put that toothpaste back in the tube.  They CAN, however, reign in the message as to the CAUSE of these issues.  And, you'll be shocked to learn, it is because we are mean to them.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28001287/

Much like the vast majority of climate research is funded on the hypothesis that mankind is destroying the earth, expect most research from experts in the future to tell us that trans people are totally normal if not for societal stress.   

Because trannies are ever the only ones to feel stress.  Everyone else is stress free.

[Gladiators 2,035]

8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

He has "Transphobe Of The Year (2022)" in his profile for focks sake.

Most are pretty scary looking.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,340]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I would place liberals ahead of trans people.   Liberals actually hold positions of power, and are ruthless in harming people.  Trans people are just sort of comical

Yep.  Liberals and liberal policies have killed more people worldwide than the Black Plague and any other disease.  Their policies and authoritarianism have ensured they remain #1 on the list.  #2 isn't even close.

[Reality 3,141]

11 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

He has "Transphobe Of The Year (2022)" in his profile for focks sake.

You are painfully stupid. I'm guessing you also think he's a theocratic fascists.

 

[TimHauck 3,473]

1 hour ago, Gladiators said:

weird, I didn't see that he hates trans in his tweet

So you don’t think he hates “the greatest evil this country faces”?

[RLLD 4,283]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

So you don’t think he hates “the greatest evil this country faces”?

It follows that you as a liberal assume everyone must hate.....that lines up.

[TimHauck 3,473]

Just now, RLLD said:

It follows that you as a liberal assume everyone must hate.....that lines up.

I’m not a liberal.  When someone says they “will oppose something until their last breath” that is “the greatest evil our country faces,” that’s a synonym for hate.  I can’t believe people are arguing this.  

[Gladiators 2,035]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

So you don’t think he hates “the greatest evil this country faces”?

I interpret his quote as him being against the "movement."  I will not pretend to know if he hates trans people.

[Gladiators 2,035]

I oppose the BLM movement.

I don't hate black people.