League Champion 1,896 Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: No. It's not a boycott either. You're not even taking a stand on anything to be honest. Well damn, I guess I'll let everyone else do it for me 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,627 Posted July 18, 2023 28 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: Helpful hint to the retards in the room: Before you can cry hypocrisy about Maybelline, you first have to find someone who has boycotted Bud Light that still buys Maybelline. I think Mulvaney and those bearded phaggots probably fall into that group. That was kinda the point. Apparently dudes are actually much more sensitive than women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, TimHauck said: That was kinda the point. Apparently dudes are actually much more sensitive than women. right wing dudes don't like other dudes turning into girls because they are attracted to them. That's my theory at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: That was kinda the point. Apparently dudes are actually much more sensitive than women. Even though it's for queers and Woman, my Wife won't touch Bud Light or Maybelline products. She's anti-pedohile. What a horrible Woman!!! You can keep Support them if you like Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,688 Posted July 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: I'm set off? I have no problem with this app. I was sharing for you, to help you. Count the number of post you have in this thread, you are set off! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,627 Posted July 18, 2023 Everyone burned all their Nike stuff too right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,219 Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: Everyone burned all their Nike stuff too right? I haven't bought anything Nike in at least a decade. Try not to support companies that use child/slave labor from 3rd world countries. But you do you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,627 Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Strike said: I haven't bought anything Nike in at least a decade. Try not to support companies that use child/slave labor from 3rd world countries. But you do you. Did you get rid of all the stuff you already owned though? And I take it no Apple products for you then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, TimHauck said: That was kinda the point. Apparently dudes are actually much more sensitive than women. My post was about hypocrisy not sensibilities dummy. I know your ears perked up when I addressed the retards, but, if you weren't crying about hypocrisy I wasn't talking to you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,831 Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, TimHauck said: Did you get rid of all the stuff you already owned though? And I take it no Apple products for you then? Ut oh, Tim is back with his hard hitting questions! And it isn't even the covid thread. Look out! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,219 Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, TimHauck said: Did you get rid of all the stuff you already owned though? And I take it no Apple products for you then? I work in IT. Hate Apple and any other company that uses vendor lock in practices. And no, I don't own anything Nike. As far as getting rid of stuff I already owned, as I said it's been at least 10 years since I had anything Nike. You want me to remember what I did with anything I might have had from them 10 years ago? Couldn't tell you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 18, 2023 I think I own a Nike putter, but it was free from a tournament raffle. I use an iPhone, but again, I didn't pay for it. Looks like I'm in the clear and Apple and Nike products in general suck ass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Strike said: Try not to support companies that use child/slave labor from 3rd world countries. Nice to see we have an ESG supporter here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,219 Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, Strike said: I work in IT. Hate Apple and any other company that uses vendor lock in practices. And no, I don't own anything Nike. As far as getting rid of stuff I already owned, as I said it's been at least 10 years since I had anything Nike. You want me to remember what I did with anything I might have had from them 10 years ago? Couldn't tell you. See @TimHauck, this is how things like this work. I don't like certain practices from certain companies so I don't buy those companies sh*t. And anyone who chooses not to drink BL has that right. It's bizarre to me that people like you are so invested with rebuilding BL's brand for them. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,804 Posted July 18, 2023 25 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: No. It's not a boycott either. You're not even taking a stand on anything to be honest. So it's only boycotting if you don't buy it for some reasons but not for any other reasons? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted July 18, 2023 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: 100% this. I believe this boycott also shows the effect of peer pressure. I think part of the reason for the success of this boycott is even for people that don’t really care if they paid a tranny to advertise, is if you’re drinking with a group of friends, chances are one of them will make a comment about it, so it’s easier to just drink something else instead (and of course as has been stated in here repeatedly, the fact that Bud Light isn’t a very good product to begin with and is easily replaceable, makes this decision even easier). I don't even think it's peer pressure in this regard, it's just that these types of "boycotts" are mostly driven by a few people, and targeted to people they know will get riled up. It's not like 1000s of people saw the ad, reacted independently, and later realized how many others were doing it. More likely a few people with a lot of followers shared this, it spread around to the usual places, and people saw it that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,382 Posted July 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: So it's only boycotting if you don't buy it for some reasons but not for any other reasons? How can you boycott something you never used, never liked and never planned on using? If it works that way then I guess I'm boycotting thousands of products. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,804 Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: How can you boycott something you never used, never liked and never planned on using? If it works that way then I guess I'm boycotting thousands of products. If you like two products the same, but you choose to buy one over another for any reason, are you boycotting the other product? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: How can you boycott something you never used, never liked and never planned on using? If it works that way then I guess I'm boycotting thousands of products. By protesting against if after seeing their ad campaigns and convincing other people to not purchase it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: If you like two products the same, but you choose to buy one over another for any reason, are you boycotting the other product? If you did it for a moral, social, political or environmental reason, yes. If you flipped a coin, no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted July 18, 2023 The question of hypocrisy is not just about you individually, it's about the group of people at large. It's just interesting that Bud Light is the one that blows up, but we have many examples in here of other very similar examples that don't get any buzz or boycotts. Surely many people in the 1000s that boycotted also use Apple, Nike, Maybelline. Surely many in those 1000s have the ability to share those ads and videos in the same threads. Overall, it seems like it's kind of important, but not really. Which I believe is accurate for most people and fine, but it surely doesn't match up to the rhetoric around this place about trans and people who support them and their ideology. So which is it - is the Geek Club just largely being trolls and pretending they are that disgusted by the trans movement, or are they so lazy and uninformed that they only can be bothered to stop buying a crap beer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted July 18, 2023 I am not clear as to what is actually being debated here. Is it whether or not the wider scope of consumers who are refusing to buy the product are "justified" or not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: I don't even think it's peer pressure in this regard, it's just that these types of "boycotts" are mostly driven by a few people, and targeted to people they know will get riled up. It's not like 1000s of people saw the ad, reacted independently, and later realized how many others were doing it. More likely a few people with a lot of followers shared this, it spread around to the usual places, and people saw it that way. Hey look, Buck figured out how social media works! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, BuckSwope said: The question of hypocrisy is not just about you individually, it's about the group of people at large. It's just interesting that Bud Light is the one that blows up, but we have many examples in here of other very similar examples that don't get any buzz or boycotts. Surely many people in the 1000s that boycotted also use Apple, Nike, Maybelline. Surely many in those 1000s have the ability to share those ads and videos in the same threads. Overall, it seems like it's kind of important, but not really. Which I believe is accurate for most people and fine, but it surely doesn't match up to the rhetoric around this place about trans and people who support them and their ideology. So which is it - is the Geek Club just largely being trolls and pretending they are that disgusted by the trans movement, or are they so lazy and uninformed that they only can be bothered to stop buying a crap beer? Neither. I didn't see anyone say they are boycotting only BL. And I did see people who have effectively boycotted all the other products you mentioned. As usual it's a false picture you try to paint to force it to one of two nonsensical options. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,896 Posted July 18, 2023 41 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: right wing dudes don't like other dudes turning into girls because they are attracted to them. That's my theory at least. IN CASE YOU FORGOT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,804 Posted July 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: If you did it for a moral, social, political or environmental reason, yes. If you flipped a coin, no. Ok. But not because one company is just stupid? Am I boycotting a company because I don't invest in them but I do invest in others? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,804 Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, League Champion said: IN CASE YOU FORGOT Sick focks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,576 Posted July 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: The question of hypocrisy is not just about you individually, it's about the group of people at large. It's just interesting that Bud Light is the one that blows up, but we have many examples in here of other very similar examples that don't get any buzz or boycotts. Surely many people in the 1000s that boycotted also use Apple, Nike, Maybelline. Surely many in those 1000s have the ability to share those ads and videos in the same threads. Overall, it seems like it's kind of important, but not really. Which I believe is accurate for most people and fine, but it surely doesn't match up to the rhetoric around this place about trans and people who support them and their ideology. So which is it - is the Geek Club just largely being trolls and pretending they are that disgusted by the trans movement, or are they so lazy and uninformed that they only can be bothered to stop buying a crap beer? It's been discussed ad nauseum, but BL was the "one that blows up" for some combination of, (1) they forgot they were selling an image, not a beer; (2) that marketing lady was a piece of work, and (3) the butterfly effect. These false equivalencies are silly. Nike giving yoga pants to Mulvaney doesn't impact a men's golf shirt. Was Apple ever selling anything but a metrosexual vibe? Maybelline, really? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted July 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: I am not clear as to what is actually being debated here. Is it whether or not the wider scope of consumers who are refusing to buy the product are "justified" or not? No, I don't think there is question that this is how it works. Don't like something, don't buy it. You can chose whatever parameters you want. The people like me that are laughing at them aren't doing it because I don't think it's justified, or that you don't have a good reason. I just find it interesting and a bit hypocritical for people who feel SO strongly about stopping woke, trans ideology, all that - but they just stop at Bud Light, and don't seem to know about or care about all the other products and companies do the same. If this boycott was so successful and people are so sick of this sh1t, why stop there and not get out the word or do the same about all those others. Others have fully admitted how their boycott of Bud Light was easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, RLLD said: I am not clear as to what is actually being debated here. Is it whether or not the wider scope of consumers who are refusing to buy the product are "justified" or not? There isn't much debate going on. The usuals are past denial that it is happening and headed towards acceptance which they really don't like so they're throwing out strawmen and false equivalencies as fast as they can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, BuckSwope said: No, I don't think there is question that this is how it works. Don't like something, don't buy it. You can chose whatever parameters you want. The people like me that are laughing at them aren't doing it because I don't think it's justified, or that you don't have a good reason. I just find it interesting and a bit hypocritical for people who feel SO strongly about stopping woke, trans ideology, all that - but they just stop at Bud Light, and don't seem to know about or care about all the other products and companies do the same. If this boycott was so successful and people are so sick of this sh1t, why stop there and not get out the word or do the same about all those others. Others have fully admitted how their boycott of Bud Light was easy. That makes sense. I think if they were to remain philosophically "true" they would have to likely boycott everything but water. I get why they are doing it, and I know I myself will often take a stand when a given brand crosses the line. Hell, after the baseball strike in the mid-90's I did not even watch a baseball game on tv until like 2021..... I will not buy Nike nor Gilette. But....are the other brands that I do buy just as involved in the poison of "wokeness", probably....oh well.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,688 Posted July 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: No, I don't think there is question that this is how it works. Don't like something, don't buy it. You can chose whatever parameters you want. The people like me that are laughing at them aren't doing it because I don't think it's justified, or that you don't have a good reason. I just find it interesting and a bit hypocritical for people who feel SO strongly about stopping woke, trans ideology, all that - but they just stop at Bud Light, and don't seem to know about or care about all the other products and companies do the same. If this boycott was so successful and people are so sick of this sh1t, why stop there and not get out the word or do the same about all those others. Others have fully admitted how their boycott of Bud Light was easy. And the other side is laughing at you because of your outrage at what beer they’re drinking but you won’t buy a Bud Light in support of your opinion. hypocrite! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted July 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: There isn't much debate going on. The usuals are past denial that it is happening and headed towards acceptance which they really don't like so they're throwing out strawmen and false equivalencies as fast as they can. I surmise the move here is pointing out the hypocrisy. Which is a) funny given the propensity of hypocrisy on full display every day across the political spectrum AND b) likely a clapback for being called out for be hypicrits. I mean how long have people been pointing out the unabashed hypocrisy of liberalism? Of course they are going to give it back when someone else does it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,382 Posted July 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: If you like two products the same, but you choose to buy one over another for any reason, are you boycotting the other product? I know you're smart enough to know the answer to this. You also have the capability to look up the definition of boycott. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: No, I don't think there is question that this is how it works. Don't like something, don't buy it. You can chose whatever parameters you want. The people like me that are laughing at them aren't doing it because I don't think it's justified, or that you don't have a good reason. I just find it interesting and a bit hypocritical for people who feel SO strongly about stopping woke, trans ideology, all that - but they just stop at Bud Light, and don't seem to know about or care about all the other products and companies do the same. If this boycott was so successful and people are so sick of this sh1t, why stop there and not get out the word or do the same about all those others. Others have fully admitted how their boycott of Bud Light was easy. Who is stopping? I didn't see anyone say they are running out to buy the other products. Again, to say someone is being hypocritical you first have to find someone who has boycotted Bud Light and still buys Maybelline. I haven't seen that strawman yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,382 Posted July 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: By protesting against if after seeing their ad campaigns and convincing other people to not purchase it. Do you purchase other products from that company then? Do you buy products from other companies that support the same? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: I know you're smart enough to know the answer to this. Speak for yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,831 Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, BuckSwope said: If this boycott was so successful and people are so sick of this sh1t, why stop there and not get out the word or do the same about all those others. Others have fully admitted how their boycott of Bud Light was easy. Who says people aren't? Do you not understand some things get legs, some do not? Do you realize many boycotts don't work? The amount of time you guys racking your brain over this very simple situation is funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: Do you purchase other products from that company then? Do you buy products from other companies that support the same? You just told another poster that they are smart enough to look up the definition of boycott. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,382 Posted July 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, League Champion said: IN CASE YOU FORGOT Add all of these to your boycott list as well. https://www.pridetoronto.com/partners/our-sponsors/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites