Cancel Bud Light! Maga Hissy Fit!

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,237]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

No apple products for you either?

I have an iPhone simply cause my mom got it. But would I ever spend money on one myself. Nope. I use an android for business 

[Engorgeous George 2,126]

3 hours ago, League Champion said:

Bass is disgusting. We catch fresh water Tilapia here, much more tasty and they put up a decent fight. I don't know anyone who eats bass. 

It is not my favorite, but is fine for a change of pace.  Tonights dinner was good, not great.  As for the eating bass softball, I'll let someone else hit that one out of the park.

 

Follow up on the day.  i just went out to my truck.  My kayak I left on the rack throughout the day.  The day's heat seems to have warped the bottom where it touched the rack.  Hopefully it pops back out and regains/retains its original shape.

[RogerDodger 797]

14 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

I thought I was pretty clear. You made your point. You got what you wanted. You made BL pay for their mistake and you sent what's his nuts back into obscurity. 

My concern is for the tens of thousands of employees who had nothing to do with any of this and many of whom, ironically enough, probably share the political beliefs of those who are currently threatening their livelihoods. 

You made your point. If your goal is to bankrupt the company and put alot of people out of work, you're no better than the fascists you claim to despise. In fact, you're worse because you just spent years railing against them and here you are engaging in the very same behavior. 

This thought that it is only AB who is paying for this is very narrow minded and extremely shortsighted. 

 

Not really. They didnt stop drinking beer, they stopped drinking Bud Light.  Jobs just move to where the work is.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

2 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Not really. They didnt stop drinking beer, they stopped drinking Bud Light.  Jobs just move to where the work is.  

Roger knows business. 

[Strike 5,186]

21 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

I thought I was pretty clear. You made your point. You got what you wanted. You made BL pay for their mistake and you sent what's his nuts back into obscurity. 

My concern is for the tens of thousands of employees who had nothing to do with any of this and many of whom, ironically enough, probably share the political beliefs of those who are currently threatening their livelihoods.  

You made your point. If your goal is to bankrupt the company and put alot of people out of work, you're no better than the fascists you claim to despise. In fact, you're worse because you just spent years railing against them and here you are engaging in the very same behavior. 

This thought that it is only AB who is paying for this is very narrow minded and extremely shortsighted. 

 

InBev isn't going bankrupt anytime soon.  Their CEO made this very clear in their earnings call:

https://www.thestreet.com/restaurants/anheuser-busch-ceo-pushes-back-over-bud-light-boycott

As far as employees go, they can bottle beer for BL's competitors who are reaping the rewards of BL's losses.  AFAIK no one has said the amount of beer being consumed overall has gone down; just some of AB's beers.  And I suspect you're not really concerned about those employees anyways.  And it's not my point.  I don't drink. 

 

[5-Points 3,388]

8 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Not really. They didnt stop drinking beer, they stopped drinking Bud Light.  Jobs just move to where the work is.  

Those brands have distributors who already have employees. They aren't hiring just because another distributor closed its doors. 

[5-Points 3,388]

Just now, Strike said:

InBev isn't going bankrupt anytime soon.  Their CEO made this very clear in their earnings call:

https://www.thestreet.com/restaurants/anheuser-busch-ceo-pushes-back-over-bud-light-boycott

As far as employees go, they can bottle beer for BL's competitors who are reaping the rewards of BL's losses.  AFAIK no one has said the amount of beer being consumed overall has gone down; just some of AB's beers.  And I suspect you're not really concerned about those employees anyways.  And it's not my point.  I don't drink. 

 

No, not at all. Why would I be? 

[BuckSwope 654]

True champions of the working class.  You didn't lose your job, it's just over at that other beer factory.  You just have to move there and hope they are hiring!

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

Just now, 5-Points said:

Those brands have distributors who already have employees. They aren't hiring just because another distributor closed its doors. 

Let the top level of executives take a pay cut. If they don’t care about their employees why should anyone else? 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

4 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

True champions of the working class.  You didn't lose your job, it's just over at that other beer factory.  You just have to move there and hope they are hiring!

Yeah. You guys care so much about the coal miners. Lots more of them lost their jobs, and not because a better mouse trap was invented.  And I notice how weepy you get for all the retail workers that lose their jobs because of crime. Crickets. 

[5-Points 3,388]

1 minute ago, BuckSwope said:

True champions of the working class.  You didn't lose your job, it's just over at that other beer factory.  You just have to move there and hope they are hiring!

It's really remarkable how ignorant people can be in the midst of a tantrum. 

[RogerDodger 797]

3 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Those brands have distributors who already have employees. They aren't hiring just because another distributor closed its doors. 

Wrong. It's a man-hour no matter who does it or where it's done.  If they switched to smaller breweries with less reach than AB it would actually create more jobs.  

1 minute ago, BuckSwope said:

True champions of the working class.  You didn't lose your job, it's just over at that other beer factory.  You just have to move there and hope they are hiring!

Literally happens every day all day long if you ever get above Hardee's manager level.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

I have an idea, how about InBev cuts back on their dividends? And how much of that is self dealing to the execs and board that have boatloads of shares? 

[5-Points 3,388]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Let the top level of executives take a pay cut. If they don’t care about their employees why should anyone else? 

How does that save the job of a Merchandiser who isn't needed anymore due to the lack of product to merch? Or the Sales Rep who just lost half his volume because the #1 beer in America has tanked? Or the driver who lost his gig because the distributor no longer needs as many trucks to deliver product on a daily basis? 

 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Let the top level of executives take a pay cut. If they don’t care about their employees why should anyone else? 

Cheers for working class people to lose their jobs, blames the CEO for not taking a pay cut. 

[5-Points 3,388]

2 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Wrong. It's a man-hour no matter who does it or where it's done.  If they switched to smaller breweries with less reach than AB it would actually create more jobs.  

Literally happens every day all day long if you ever get above Hardee's manager level.  

You have no idea what you're talking about. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

5 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

It's really remarkable how ignorant people can be in the midst of a tantrum. 

They really only care about winning message board arguments.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

3 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

How does that save the job of a Merchandiser who isn't needed anymore due to the lack of product to merch? Or the Sales Rep who just lost half his volume because the #1 beer in America has tanked? Or the driver who lost his gig because the distributor no longer needs as many trucks to deliver product on a daily basis? 

 

I want them to be taken care of too. The consumer isn’t going to do it. So who else will? Let’s deal with reality. InBev can take care of them until this gets better. Why aren’t they? 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Cheers for working class people to lose their jobs, blames the CEO for not taking a pay cut. 

It’s a residual from my former left wing views. There’s still some in there. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Let the top level of executives take a pay cut. If they don’t care about their employees why should anyone else? 

Bro thinks we shouldn't care about people that work for corps with sh1tty executives.

[5-Points 3,388]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I want them to be taken care of too. The consumer isn’t going to do it. So who else will? Let’s deal with reality. InBev can take care of them until this gets better. Why aren’t they? 

They have been. But that won't last forever. 

[RogerDodger 797]

12 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

You have no idea what you're talking about. 

Actually I do. 

Any business that's for profit maximizes their efficiency and output.  Thats how you make money, highest return on your investment. No major brewery is sitting there with a bunch of equipment and workers just waiting for people to buy more beer or hoping their competitors go under. If breweries experience more demand they need and use more resources.  That's just Business 101.  

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

Just now, 5-Points said:

They have been. But that won't last forever. 

I don’t drink their products. I had an occasional Bud before all of this. I’ll tell you what, I’ll buy two sixers, which was about my yearly intake of Bud. 

[Gepetto 1,288]

Persons that lose their job have to take care of themselves. It's called individual responsibility. Conservatives will fight and claw and find a way to make money, liberals will ask for handouts.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

5 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Actually I do. 

Any business that's for profit maximizes their efficiency and output.  Thats how you make money, highest return on your investment. No major brewery is sitting there with a bunch of equipment and workers just sitting there waiting for people to buy more beer or hoping their competitors go under. If breweries experience more demand they need and use more resources.  That's just Business 101.  

No business runs at a continuous 100% capacity.  If a brewery experiences increased demand, they can likely brew more batches with the equipment and staff they have.  They won't increase staff or purchase more capital unless they are sure the demand is sustained and they want to make the investment.  Conversely, a brewer is not going to immediately sell equipment if there is lower demand.

Bottom line is you don't know how efficient the operations are or what capacity then run at, so it's stupid to say that if AB fires 100 people that they will just be hired by other brewers immediately.

[BuckSwope 654]

21 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah. You guys care so much about the coal miners. Lots more of them lost their jobs, and not because a better mouse trap was invented.  And I notice how weepy you get for all the retail workers that lose their jobs because of crime. Crickets. 

  Probably not, dipshit.    I haven't even been here a year, have never said a word about coal mining to my knowledge and pretty sure nothing pro crime, either.    Feel free to mark me down for being anti people losing their jobs over stupid sh1t.    I can't speak for the rest of whoever "you guys" are, but there's my stance.  

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

18 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Bro thinks we shouldn't care about people that work for corps with sh1tty executives.

Can you stop saying “Bro”?  You’re in your fifties or close to it. 

[5-Points 3,388]

9 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Actually I do. 

Any business that's for profit maximizes their efficiency and output.  Thats how you make money, highest return on your investment. No major brewery is sitting there with a bunch of equipment and workers just waiting for people to buy more beer or hoping their competitors go under. If breweries experience more demand they need and use more resources.  That's just Business 101.  

No, you don't. 

If a beer distributor closes its doors, the other distributors in the area purchase the rights to distribute certain brands from them. They don't hire all the employees from that distributor because they already have their own. 

Those employees are out on the street, looking for jobs. 

[5-Points 3,388]

18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I don’t drink their products. I had an occasional Bud before all of this. I’ll tell you what, I’ll buy two sixers, which was about my yearly intake of Bud. 

I'm sure they'll appreciate the business.

[Gepetto 1,288]

2 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

No, you don't. 

If a beer distributor closes its doors, the other distributors in the area purchase the rights to distribute certain brands from them. They don't hire all the employees from that distributor because they already have their own. 

Those employees are out on the street, looking for jobs. 

Same goes for My Pillow guy getting canceled and losing business and employees losing their job. That's not even his fault; that's political decision making by Walmart executives, etc.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Can you stop saying “Bro”?  You’re in your fifties or close to it. 

You called me Boujee the other day, shut your face.

[RogerDodger 797]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

No business runs at a continuous 100% capacity.  If a brewery experiences increased demand, they can likely brew more batches with the equipment and staff they have.  They won't increase staff or purchase more capital unless they are sure the demand is sustained and they want to make the investment.  Conversely, a brewer is not going to immediately sell equipment if there is lower demand.

Bottom line is you don't know how efficient the operations are or what capacity then run at, so it's stupid to say that if AB fires 100 people that they will just be hired by other brewers immediately.

You cant read. He said 10,000 people.

Shocked that you whiffed at the goal being 100% and instead took it as an absolute.  Do you understand the definition of "maximize"?  

Simple example even a retard like you can understand.  The second your current employees have to work a cumulative 40 hours overtime you should  hire another person so you dont have to pay overtime.  Conversely you'll loose employees if you can give them enough hours.  You maximize that for profit.  

You've never managed people or ran a business.  GTFO

[5-Points 3,388]

1 minute ago, Gepetto said:

Same goes for My Pillow guy getting canceled and losing business and employees losing their job. That's not even his fault; that's political decision making by Walmart executives, etc.

There is some similarity here but My Pillow guy is the owner of that company. 

This social media thing was a mid level exec's brain child. She didn't speak for the company. They gave her too much leash and she hung all of them with it. 

[BuckSwope 654]

4 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Same goes for My Pillow guy getting canceled and losing business and employees losing their job. That's not even his fault; that's political decision making by Walmart executives, etc.

Yes, it does. Very similar, and this is a reason I think these boycotts are largely stupid - this trickles down to a lot of people that have 0 dog in the fight.  Jobs are hard enough to find and the cost of living/moving is outrageous.  

[RogerDodger 797]

20 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

No, you don't. 

If a beer distributor closes its doors, the other distributors in the area purchase the rights to distribute certain brands from them. They don't hire all the employees from that distributor because they already have their own. 

Those employees are out on the street, looking for jobs. 

All the employees?  Nice shift of the goalpost. What were the people they already have doing the day before?  Just pull them off the shelf huh. 

A man-hour is a man-hour.  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, RogerDodger said:

You cant read. He said 10,000 people.

Shocked that you whiffed at the goal being 100% and instead took it as an absolute.  Do you understand the definition of "maximize"?  

Simple example even a retard like you can understand.  The second your current employees have to work a cumulative 40 hours overtime you should  hire another person so you dont have to pay overtime.  Conversely you'll loose employees if you can give them enough hours.  You maximize that for profit.  

You've never managed people or ran a business.  GTFO

The second?  Ever hire someone?  Do you know the cost involved with hiring someone? and then laying them off?  You think it makes financial sense to hire a person for a week rather than pay OT for that week?  You continue to amaze us with your stupidity.

[RogerDodger 797]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

The second?  Ever hire someone?  Do you know the cost involved with hiring someone? and then laying them off?  You think it makes financial sense to hire a person for a week rather than pay OT for that week?  You continue to amaze us with your stupidity.

FFS.

A week? The example we are discussing moron is permanent.  If it's just a week the 10,000 employees you're worried about get their jobs back. 

Dumb as chit. 

[jerryskids 6,564]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

The same reason someone without kids gives a fock about trans people in locker rooms or girls/womens sports.   Because they want to stand up for what they think is right in order to defend real women and protect them from being replaced.

For example, here’s one of our resident white knights who seems very concerned with this particular aspect of transgenderism, posting about it in multiple different threads:

 

 

So, I’m surprised someone like the idiot above wouldn’t be more concerned with Maybelline.  Especially now that they not only partnered with Mulvaney at the same time Bud Light did, but didn’t “heed the warning” from the Bud Light boycott and have now also partnered with a bearded person.  But it actually seems like some of the usual suspects (Libs of Tiktok, Ben Shapiro, etc) are picking this up so maybe in a few days the people in here saying “who gives a fock about Maybelline” might actually start giving a fock about Maybelline once they’ve been given their marching orders.

Umm... no, those aren't the same.  Not even close.  You've reached that point I've seen you reach a few times, where you have some point that you desperately want to make, but it just isn't a good point no matter how many time you say it.   

[GutterBoy 2,898]

4 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

FFS.

A week? The example we are discussing moron is permanent.  If it's just a week the 10,000 employees you're worried about get their jobs back. 

Dumb as chit. 

You said you should hire someone the second after OT is worked.  That's dumb.

You tried to couch it saying that the increased demand is assumed to be permanent, also dumb.

Otherwise you're doing great.

[TimHauck 2,619]

48 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Wrong. It's a man-hour no matter who does it or where it's done.  If they switched to smaller breweries with less reach than AB it would actually create more jobs.  

Literally happens every day all day long if you ever get above Hardee's manager level.  

This is true to an extent, but Bud Light’s losses are being spread out to various brands, so they may not need to hire much if at all to keep up with the demand.  Not to mention it’s still TBD how long the increased demand will last.

Oh and one of the brands reaping the rewards is Modelo, which is brewed in Mexico.

Although honestly, I don’t really agree with the “end the boycott for the sake of the workers argument.”  People are entitled to spend their money how they wish.  I just think it’s dumb.