Cancel Bud Light! Maga Hissy Fit!

[seafoam1 2,799]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

This is true to an extent, but Bud Light’s losses are being spread out to various brands, so they may not need to hire much if at all to keep up with the demand.  Not to mention it’s still TBD how long the increased demand will last.

Oh and one of the brands reaping the rewards is Modelo, which is brewed in Mexico.

Although honestly, I don’t really agree with the “end the boycott for the sake of the workers argument.”  People are entitled to spend their money how they wish.  I just think it’s dumb.

 

Modelo. 

[TimHauck 2,615]

7 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Umm... no, those aren't the same.  Not even close.  You've reached that point I've seen you reach a few times, where you have some point that you desperately want to make, but it just isn't a good point no matter how many time you say it.   

Heck, aren’t you the guy that keeps saying kids are being nurtured to be trans?  Don’t you think normalizing being trans by putting them in advertisements for women’s products will further that supposed trend?

[5-Points 3,387]

12 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

All the employees?  Nice shift of the goalpost. What were the people they already have doing the day before?  Just pull them off the shelf huh. 

A man-hour is a man-hour.  

What? 

The day before the distributor closed its doors the employees were doing their jobs. 

The day after the distributor closed its doors the previous employees were looking for jobs. 

Which they wouldn't need to look for if the distributor was able to keep its doors open. 

 

[TimHauck 2,615]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

Modelo. 

#1 beer in America

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

24 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You called me Boujee the other day, shut your face.

Touché 

[RogerDodger 797]

4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You said you should hire someone the second after OT is worked.  That's dumb.

You tried to couch it saying that the increased demand is assumed to be permanent, also dumb.

Otherwise you're doing great.

Oh so sorry I didnt say "the second you regularly" because I'm dealing with an idiot. The scenario was set with the 10,000 BL employees losing their jobs. 5 Points made it sound bad, so tragic for those guys. Sounds permanent. So:

Things you've invented so far so to avoid being wrong:

- only 100 employees 

- only for a week 

[RogerDodger 797]

5 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

What? 

The day before the distributor closed its doors the employees were doing their jobs. 

The day after the distributor closed its doors the previous employees were looking for jobs. 

Which they wouldn't need to look for if the distributor was able to keep its doors open. 

 

The new distributor has it's own employees that come in to take the jobs away from the old distributor. That's your claim. What were they doing the day before because it seems some new jobs just opened up.  

[5-Points 3,387]

16 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

The new distributor has it's own employees that come in to take the jobs away from the old distributor. That's your claim. What were they doing the day before because it seems some new jobs just opened up.  

Dafuk?

They didn't "come in" to do anything. They were already in place with the rest of the infrastructure that the other distributors were already operating with. They simply had new brands to work with. 

The warehouse had more pallets to move. The Merchandisers had more products to merch. The sales Reps had more products to sell. The drivers kept driving the same trucks. They just had new products in the trailer. 

None of that necessitates the hiring of the previous distributor's former employees. It just means more work for the existing employees of the distributor who is now distributing those products.

 

 

 

[FrancieFootball 96]

Bud Light sucks. I'm partial to Negro Modelo.

[League Champion 1,896]

7 hours ago, FrancieFootball said:

I'm partial to Negro Modelo

You sure are 

[Sagging Scrot 44]

13 minutes ago, League Champion said:

You sure are 

Never mix genders, never mix races.

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

12 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They wanted it so bad. Gutterboy was posting tweets from dopes saying how the boycott won’t work and y’all ain’t gonna do shitt.  Lol. Forget Hawkeye. That guy wanted it more than Gutterboy. It’s like he was personally offended.  

Sorry I missed out on all the fun in here last night, I was busy fishing.  So, you think I was personally offended?  That's an interesting take.

[RogerDodger 797]

9 hours ago, 5-Points said:

Dafuk?

They didn't "come in" to do anything. They were already in place with the rest of the infrastructure that the other distributors were already operating with. They simply had new brands to work with. 

The warehouse had more pallets to move. The Merchandisers had more products to merch. The sales Reps had more products to sell. The drivers kept driving the same trucks. They just had new products in the trailer. 

None of that necessitates the hiring of the previous distributor's former employees. It just means more work for the existing employees of the distributor who is now distributing those products.

 

 

 

Ah, now we are  getting somewhere. 

"More work for the existing employees" 

That's your logical fallacy.  If your boss comes in and dumps more work on your desk, that takes more TIME.  You don't just majically work faster and harder because if you had capacity to do more work in your 40 hours of TIME, your TIME isnt optimized and your boss and company are losing money.  

Doing more work in the same amount of time requires more resources and employees.  

[Engorgeous George 2,126]

12 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Sorry I missed out on all the fun in here last night, I was busy fishing.  So, you think I was personally offended?  That's an interesting take.

I hope they were biting.

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

4 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I hope they were biting.

They were but we couldn't find the big ones.  We had a lot of fun like always though.

[RogerDodger 797]

Take any one of your examples. But the truck driver one works best. You think trucks drive around half empty?  The distributor makes sure the trucks are completely full and can make as many deliveries as possible per load. More product to move means more deliveries. More deliveries means more TIME and those damn truck drivers can only work the maximum allowed by FMCSA. .   That means you have to hire more truck drivers. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

5 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Ah, now we are  getting somewhere. 

"More work for the existing employees" 

That's your logical fallacy.  If your boss comes in and dumps more work on your desk, that takes more TIME.  You don't just majically work faster and harder because if you had capacity to do more work in your 40 hours of TIME, your TIME isnt optimized and your boss and company are losing money.  

Doing more work in the same amount of time requires more resources and employees.  

Actually this happens all the time, and has been for decades.  Corps have layoffs, the work is spread around and people either work harder or longer for the same compensation.

You seem to think that everything is operating at 100% efficiency all the time, and everyone is highly productive, all the time.  That's simply not the case.

Doing more work in the same amount of time can happen with increased productivity.  Smart hiring decisions are based on longer term growth models, not short term demand fluctuations.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

31 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Sorry I missed out on all the fun in here last night, I was busy fishing.  So, you think I was personally offended?  That's an interesting take.

Seems that way. Makes sense, seeing how confident you were and how wrong you ended up being. 

[RogerDodger 797]

24 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Actually this happens all the time, and has been for decades.  Corps have layoffs, the work is spread around and people either work harder or longer for the same compensation.

You seem to think that everything is operating at 100% efficiency all the time, and everyone is highly productive, all the time.  That's simply not the case.

Doing more work in the same amount of time can happen with increased productivity.  Smart hiring decisions are based on longer term growth models, not short term demand fluctuations.

Things you've invented so far so that you're not wrong:

 - only 100 employees 

- only for a week

- 100% efficiency is an absolute 

- only a short term demand fluctuation. 

 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

23 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Seems that way. Makes sense, seeing how confident you were and how wrong you ended up being. 

This is the only comment I've made in the 82 pages of this thread where I said Bud Light would be fine.  "This too shall pass.  Bud Light will be just fine."  Since then I have admitted that I was wrong for the time being.  All of my other comments have been about how ridiculous I think the whole thing is.  I'm not sure how you are forming your opinion on this.

Sometimes I think you have some sort of fantasy profile of me in your head.  Are you mixing me up with other people on here or something?

[GutterBoy 2,898]

7 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

This is the only comment I've made in the 82 pages of this thread where I said Bud Light would be fine.  "This too shall pass.  Bud Light will be just fine."  Since then I have admitted that I was wrong for the time being.  All of my other comments have been about how ridiculous I think the whole thing is.  I'm not sure how you are forming your opinion on this.

Sometimes I think you have some sort of fantasy profile of me in your head.  Are you mixing me up with other people on here or something?

He makes sh1t up all the time about everybody, don't take it personal.

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

Is CMT going to follow in Bud Light's footsteps?

https://www.billboard.com/music/country/jason-aldean-try-that-in-a-small-town-video-pulled-cmt-1235373842/

[5-Points 3,387]

51 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Ah, now we are  getting somewhere. 

"More work for the existing employees" 

That's your logical fallacy.  If your boss comes in and dumps more work on your desk, that takes more TIME.  You don't just majically work faster and harder because if you had capacity to do more work in your 40 hours of TIME, your TIME isnt optimized and your boss and company are losing money.  

Doing more work in the same amount of time requires more resources and employees.  

Let me break it down for you. 

Merchandisers have routes. There are stores on those routes. A merch is responsible for merching all of the products the distributor he/she works for distributes to those stores.

Sales Reps have routes. There are stores on those routes. The Rep is responsible for selling all of the products the distributor he/she works for distributes to those stores. 

Drivers have routes. There are stores on those routes. The driver is responsible for delivering all of the pallets on his truck to all of the stores on his route. Sometimes there is so much volume on a route that the driver has to go back to the warehouse and reload, then go back out and finish delivering. 

The distributor isn't hiring any new Merchandisers because all of the accounts in the territory are covered. They simply pay overtime when needed. 

The distributor isn't hiring anymore Sales Reps because all of the stores in the territory are covered. Often times, those Reps are on what's called "salary." Which means he/she makes the same amount of money if they finish their route in 4 hours or 14 hours. It makes no difference to the distributor. 

The distributor isn't hiring any new drivers because all of the routes are covered by existing drivers. Who, like Merchandisers, get paid overtime when they exceed their 8 or 10 hours depending on their schedule. 

 

Unless the distributor takes over a new territory, with new stores on new routes, they aren't hiring any new people because they already have adequate coverage for their territory. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

Downloaded that Jason Aldean song last night. Doubt I ever listen to it. Worth the 1.29.  

[RLLD 4,143]

7 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Is CMT going to follow in Bud Light's footsteps?

https://www.billboard.com/music/country/jason-aldean-try-that-in-a-small-town-video-pulled-cmt-1235373842/

It would be probably on point that someone, perhaps a group of someones, complained.  So then this small set of "concerned citizens" can dictate for the rest of us what we can listen to.  But hold on, removal of inappropriate content is something liberals support.....such as with statues....no, hold on they oppose it....such as with books in schools....no-no, they support that....

Hmmmm, maybe its true that they want to censor what they object to......but care nothing about what others object to..... 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,930]

They are upset that Aldean showed actual footage in the video. That about sums up the left. 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

They are upset that Aldean showed actual footage in the video. That about sums up the left. 

Yeah, it's pretty stupid.  It's especially stupid considering all the other music out there with horrendous lyrics.  I don't care much for country music but this is a bad move by CMT.

[RogerDodger 797]

2 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Drivers have routes. There are stores on those routes. The driver is responsible for delivering all of the pallets on his truck to all of the stores on his route. Sometimes there is so much volume on a route that the driver has to go back to the warehouse and reload, then go back out and finish delivering. 

Yep.  And when volume increases and that driver has to go back a third time he hits the maximum HOS allowed by FMCSA and you need to hire another driver.  And then possibly a new truck because your deliveries are late and the stores shelves are sitting empty.  I think you got it now. 

[crackattack 520]

82 pages of people who don't care or people who think the boycott is dumb. 82 pages.

[RogerDodger 797]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Sorry I missed out on all the fun in here last night, I was busy fishing.  So, you think I was personally offended?  That's an interesting take.

You should have taken Gutterboy.  He was all pissy because apparently he didn't get to go.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, crackattack said:

82 pages of people who don't care or people who think the boycott is dumb. 82 pages.

What's even more dumb are the people that complain about other people posting about it.

[listen2me 23 1,825]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

Yeah, it's pretty stupid.  It's especially stupid considering all the other music out there with horrendous lyrics.  I don't care much for country music but this is a bad move by CMT.

This song is bad.  Yet WAP: wet azz puzzy is lauded and probably won awards.

This is where I can't believe Libs don't see what is going on.  Just blind.

[League Champion 1,896]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

What's even more dumb are the people that complain about other people posting about it.

Yet here you are, complaining

[GutterBoy 2,898]

10 minutes ago, RLLD said:

It would be probably on point that someone, perhaps a group of someones, complained.  So then this small set of "concerned citizens" can dictate for the rest of us what we can listen to.  But hold on, removal of inappropriate content is something liberals support.....such as with statues....no, hold on they oppose it....such as with books in schools....no-no, they support that....

Hmmmm, maybe its true that they want to censor what they object to......but care nothing about what others object to..... 

I really doubt that liberals complained to CMT to get rid of the video.  I wouldn't think Aldean or CMT gets much liberal viewership.

It was dumb of CMT to do this, the video is whatever, but now that it's news, it's gonna get more exposure and I'm sure more people will complain.  Just like Bud Light.

[jerryskids 6,561]

11 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Heck, aren’t you the guy that keeps saying kids are being nurtured to be trans?  Don’t you think normalizing being trans by putting them in advertisements for women’s products will further that supposed trend?

This is different than what happened with BL, as I've explained numerous times.

But if my saying that I'll never buy eyeshadow from Maybelline again will stop you from yip yip dogging this, you got it. 

[jerryskids 6,561]

32 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Is CMT going to follow in Bud Light's footsteps?

https://www.billboard.com/music/country/jason-aldean-try-that-in-a-small-town-video-pulled-cmt-1235373842/

I could see them catching flak for it.  It's a good song with a good message... unless you are a socialist who wants to replace family and community with the state.   

[5-Points 3,387]

21 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Yep.  And when volume increases and that driver has to go back a third time he hits the maximum HOS allowed by FMCSA and you need to hire another driver.  And then possibly a new truck because your deliveries are late and the stores shelves are sitting empty.  I think you got it now. 

These aren't long haul drivers. They can run back to the warehouse 3 or 4 times if necessary and still be under their allotted HOS.

Now let me tell you about relief drivers. Relief drivers are drivers who are available to help when volume is high. They jump in one of the extra rigs the distributor has in the yard and pick up a few stops. Usually they jump in a side loader and run 5 or 6 stops to relieve some of the pressure on a driver or two. 

 

Like I said, you don't know what youre talking about. Maybe in some industries what you're saying is applicable. It isn't in this industry. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

These aren't long haul drivers. They can run back to the warehouse 3 or 4 times if necessary and still be under their allotted HOS.

Now let me tell you about relief drivers. Relief drivers are drivers who are available to help when volume is high. They jump in one of the extra rigs the distributor has in the yard and pick up a few stops. Usually they jump in a side loader and run 5 or 6 stops to relieve some of the pressure on a driver or two. 

 

Like I said, you don't know what youre talking about. Maybe in some industries what you're saying is applicable. It isn't in this industry. 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I could see them catching flak for it.  It's a good song with a good message... unless you are a socialist who wants to replace family and community with the state.   

Morons are saying it's racist when it doesn't mention race at all.  People are so focking stupid.

[crackattack 520]

21 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

What's even more dumb are the people that complain about other people posting about it.

Sure thing .  Keep pounding that keyboard complaining about something you think is dumb.