Blue Horseshoe 348 Posted August 9, 2023 On 4/27/2023 at 8:17 PM, jerryskids said: Trump has 0% chance of winning the general. In an actual "free and fair" election, Trump's odds of winning 2024 POTUS are not very good. Lots of people are relying on polling numbers but the entire polling industry is broken beyond repair at this point. Odds are, like 2020, both sides will cheat as much as possible again. Republicans need to use early voting. Odds are that Team Blue will try to steal this election if it comes to that. I'm sure some radical leftists here will throw a fit over that statement, but at this point, with all that's been done around Trump ( some persecution of him is egregious beyond all measure, some problems he brings onto himself for no good reason at all) If the cheating fails, odds are Team Blue's corporate cronies will attempt to assassinate Trump. If that fails, they will attempt to impeach him again ( I don't think they'll have the numbers) Barring that, the rioting, looting and burning will start again. If there is no other way to remove Trump, Team Blue and DNC HQ will commit to setting the country on fire anyway. I've said this before - If I said in 2020 or before, (even though I wasn't posting here in the GC at the time) that Trump was going to get assassinated by the "establishment", most people would laugh. But now? Why would anyone laugh now? I mean look at everything that's been done to persecute him. Sure he's an imbecile and sure he's a grifter. But the level of coordination to politically persecute him is dragging this country into uncharted territory. Basically the DNC was willing to lose the FBI as a legacy institution to get rid of Trump. They were willing to pay that price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,390 Posted August 14, 2023 I'm really becoming a big fan of Vivek the more I hear him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,310 Posted August 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I'm really becoming a big fan of Vivek the more I hear him. I was looking for this thread (I suck at search function) Thats the exact type of person we need, I dont really see how anyone could not like him or disagree with what he said, and continues to say Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,390 Posted August 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I was looking for this thread (I suck at search function) Thats the exact type of person we need, I dont really see how anyone could not like him or disagree with what he said, and continues to say Exactly. He shares a lot of the same opinions I have. He's a great speaker. He's respectful. Now, we just need to get Trump and Biden out of the picture. He's also young. I didn't realize he's younger than I am. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,310 Posted August 14, 2023 40 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Exactly. He shares a lot of the same opinions I have. He's a great speaker. He's respectful. Now, we just need to get Trump and Biden out of the picture. He's also young. I didn't realize he's younger than I am. I know 37 I think and hes 1000x smarter than me and you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,390 Posted August 14, 2023 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I know 37 I think and hes 1000x smarter than me and you He has my vote right now. I no longer DeSantis. He's a strange dude. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,310 Posted August 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: He has my vote right now. I no longer DeSantis. He's a strange dude. yep, I want biden and trump both gone, and a battle between Vivek and RFK. I have been on the Vivek bus since day 1 he announced these people on this board who say they would vote R if the right candidate is there, have no answer to Vivek, so it will just show their hypocrisy 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,310 Posted August 14, 2023 then there is THIS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WatsonRules 46 Posted August 14, 2023 Smart is a key criteria. We need to stop thinking that no experience is better than experience, though. Many of his ideas are unworkable and probably a result of not having a full understanding of how the institutions of government work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,310 Posted August 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, WatsonRules said: Smart is a key criteria. We need to stop thinking that no experience is better than experience, though. Many of his ideas are unworkable and probably a result of not having a full understanding of how the institutions of government work. yah Biden has an amazing understanding of how to funnel money to foreign entities, good point and his ideas are just that, dude has probably had 100,000's of ideas in his life, and when putting them in motion realizes how they do or dont work and need to be adjusted obviously you know very little about his background Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WatsonRules 46 Posted August 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: yah Biden has an amazing understanding of how to funnel money to foreign entities, good point and his ideas are just that, dude has probably had 100,000's of ideas in his life, and when putting them in motion realizes how they do or dont work and need to be adjusted obviously you know very little about his background Come on, I haven't said Biden is good, bad, or anything. I'm not comparing the two. I only know what's on his website. His ideas on government bureaucracy (eliminating departments and agencies, moving employees out of Washington, etc) are simply not workable in any legitimate timeframe and will cause way more chaos than everybody thinks. How are taxes going to be collected if you eliminate the IRS? I mean, nobody like taxes or the IRS, but what do you replace it with? Not to mention eliminating Social Security? Ban social media for kids? these ideas appeal to the GOP base but have literally no chance of being enacted if by some miracle he's elected President. It's all pie in the sky and learning on the job shouldn't be what we desire in a President. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,310 Posted August 14, 2023 8 minutes ago, WatsonRules said: Come on, I haven't said Biden is good, bad, or anything. I'm not comparing the two. I only know what's on his website. His ideas on government bureaucracy (eliminating departments and agencies, moving employees out of Washington, etc) are simply not workable in any legitimate timeframe and will cause way more chaos than everybody thinks. How are taxes going to be collected if you eliminate the IRS? I mean, nobody like taxes or the IRS, but what do you replace it with? Not to mention eliminating Social Security? Ban social media for kids? these ideas appeal to the GOP base but have literally no chance of being enacted if by some miracle he's elected President. It's all pie in the sky and learning on the job shouldn't be what we desire in a President. again Ideas, lets see what he suggests, I am sure hes just saying it to blow smoke right? No he has an idea, the department of nuclear doesn't need to exist, when its entire existence is to prevent nuclear advancement, its a waste of money, dept of education another. moving employees out of washington? why not, we learned remote work is very possible especially in clerical positions as far as kids/social media, we as a whole try to prevent kids from being poisoned, cigarettes, alcohol, driving. This might be something worth exploring, our kids brains are being poisoned by social media, online bullying has increased suicides in youth, and tiktok and the likes have increased the stupidity social security does need to be eliminated, we aren't having the 2.4 kids per household to sustain it, something needs to be done, the amount collected is far less then the amount paid out the general statement you make no chance of being enacted, well welcome to politics, most policies that someone runs on never get enacted, hence gridlock still waiting on your boy biden to decriminalize cannabis, as promised by every DEM president since clinton now if you want to show me an actual democrat candidate worth a damn please feel free Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WatsonRules 46 Posted August 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: again Ideas, lets see what he suggests, I am sure hes just saying it to blow smoke right? No he has an idea, the department of nuclear doesn't need to exist, when its entire existence is to prevent nuclear advancement, its a waste of money, dept of education another. moving employees out of washington? why not, we learned remote work is very possible especially in clerical positions as far as kids/social media, we as a whole try to prevent kids from being poisoned, cigarettes, alcohol, driving. This might be something worth exploring, our kids brains are being poisoned by social media, online bullying has increased suicides in youth, and tiktok and the likes have increased the stupidity social security does need to be eliminated, we aren't having the 2.4 kids per household to sustain it, something needs to be done, the amount collected is far less then the amount paid out the general statement you make no chance of being enacted, well welcome to politics, most policies that someone runs on never get enacted, hence gridlock still waiting on your boy biden to decriminalize cannabis, as promised by every DEM president since clinton now if you want to show me an actual democrat candidate worth a damn please feel free Sherrod Brown has been an effective Senator from Ohio for a long time. He would make a fine President if he ever decided to run. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,310 Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, WatsonRules said: Sherrod Brown has been an effective Senator from Ohio for a long time. He would make a fine President if he ever decided to run. hes not a candidate, thats the point, I dont know anything about him. but I guarantee if he did he would have a ton of policies that I wouldnt agree with, nor could be enacted of everyone who has stepped in to date, Vivek is the best candidate hands down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WatsonRules 46 Posted August 14, 2023 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: hes not a candidate, thats the point, I dont know anything about him. but I guarantee if he did he would have a ton of policies that I wouldnt agree with, nor could be enacted of everyone who has stepped in to date, Vivek is the best candidate hands down Nobody serious is going to run against a sitting President, and I wouldn't expect a Democrat to have policies you agree with. Tim Scott is a better candidate than Vivek. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,310 Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, WatsonRules said: Nobody serious is going to run against a sitting President, and I wouldn't expect a Democrat to have policies you agree with. Tim Scott is a better candidate than Vivek. I think Vivek would destroy Scott in a debate, but Scott is currently sitting second for me and no I am good with democrat policies when they make sense, I am very moderate unfortunately, the dem party is extreme left now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,390 Posted August 14, 2023 1 hour ago, WatsonRules said: Smart is a key criteria. We need to stop thinking that no experience is better than experience, though. Many of his ideas are unworkable and probably a result of not having a full understanding of how the institutions of government work. It's time for something different. I'd like to see what he can do and bring in the right people to accomplish things. I think he'll have way more bipartisan support Trump could ever come close to. I think democrats will be much more willing to support a guy like Vivek than Trump. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,310 Posted August 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: It's time for something different. I'd like to see what he can do and bring in the right people to accomplish things. I think he'll have way more bipartisan support Trump could ever come close to. I think democrats will be much more willing to support a guy like Vivek than Trump. he will be the Indian face of White Supremacy I am sure dude believes in hard work and showing up on time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WatsonRules 46 Posted August 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: It's time for something different. I'd like to see what he can do and bring in the right people to accomplish things. I think he'll have way more bipartisan support Trump could ever come close to. I think democrats will be much more willing to support a guy like Vivek than Trump. I think you won't get a lot of Democrats supporting a candidate that pledges to pardon Trump. That's a hard, hard sell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,390 Posted August 14, 2023 Just now, WatsonRules said: I think you won't get a lot of Democrats supporting a candidate that pledges to pardon Trump. That's a hard, hard sell. They'll forget about Trump eventually. He won't be running again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WatsonRules 46 Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said: They'll forget about Trump eventually. He won't be running again. There's an approximately zero chance that Trump will not be a dominant force in this election cycle whether he's the nominee or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,916 Posted August 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: They'll forget about Trump eventually. He won't be running again. 8 years and counting of leftist obsession says no one forgets about Trump. Ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,390 Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, seafoam1 said: 8 years and counting of leftist obsession says no one forgets about Trump. Ever. If he doesn't get elected and doesn't run for President then he will fade away. If we get a solid President then we can all forget about him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,310 Posted August 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, WatsonRules said: I think you won't get a lot of Democrats supporting a candidate that pledges to pardon Trump. That's a hard, hard sell. he also said he'd pardon Huntard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WatsonRules 46 Posted August 14, 2023 24 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: he also said he'd pardon Huntard Democrats don't care about Hunter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,567 Posted August 14, 2023 @KSB2424 rename thread to official rino thread, thanks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,310 Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said: @KSB2424 rename thread to official rino thread, thanks hes not even close to deep state, Desantis is much more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,567 Posted August 14, 2023 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: hes not even close to deep state, Desantis is much more Lol right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,720 Posted August 14, 2023 4 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: yep, I want biden and trump both gone, and a battle between Vivek and RFK. I have been on the Vivek bus since day 1 he announced these people on this board who say they would vote R if the right candidate is there, have no answer to Vivek, so it will just show their hypocrisy I’d vote for him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,916 Posted August 14, 2023 I'm in on Trump because there is no other person who can handle all the slander the current day liberals throw at conservatives. Especially if one is president. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted August 18, 2023 This guy nails it every single time. https://x.com/vivekgramaswamy/status/1692586567410372718?s=46&t=r0y3bJ1CDXchoYAztDxmqw 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,192 Posted August 18, 2023 1 minute ago, KSB2424 said: This guy nails it every single time. https://x.com/vivekgramaswamy/status/1692586567410372718?s=46&t=r0y3bJ1CDXchoYAztDxmqw He does a very good job articulating his points, and does not bring the drama of a Trump or Desantis, I like that about him. Most of his positions are ones I can get behind as well. He is an outsider so we should expect the deep state to hate him as much as Trump 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted August 19, 2023 Idea. Can Biden pardon Trump, then the GOP drops any investigations into both Bidens? Caveat is both must walk away from politics into to sunset. Nobody is talking about or fighting for the citizens. 90% of our collective time and energy is over what new law we can twist to get another special counsel to look at yada yada yada. Its time. DC is way to old and compromised and there needs to be a reset. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,916 Posted August 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Idea. Can Biden pardon Trump, then the GOP drops any investigations into both Bidens? Caveat is both must walk away from politics into to sunset. Nobody is talking about or fighting for the citizens. 90% of our collective time and energy is over what new law we can twist to get another special counsel to look at yada yada yada. Its time. DC is way to old and compromised and there needs to be a reset. Good thought but I don't think it changes anything in Washington. Next up for the pedocrats, gavin newsom. Put Biden in jail or let him drop dead naturally, I don't care. I would wholeheartedly support Trump again if he runs again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,701 Posted August 19, 2023 This is a real banger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, HellToupee said: This is a real banger JFC, I had to press pause after 30 minutes in because I came. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted August 19, 2023 I’ve cleaned up, going to watch the last 30 minutes of Tucker interviewing Vivek. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted August 19, 2023 What an interview; all timer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flipper 61 Posted August 19, 2023 I see Vivek as too late to the party and maybe a bit too BRICSy ... Trump has the thick skin I want but lacks suave ... I also don't think that any of this matters because of the behind-the-scenes bullocks that makes the world turn into a piece of shat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites