Trannies Are Mental Illness

[seafoam1 2,799]

3 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Yet here you are 

He follows me. 

[squistion 1,947]

1 hour ago, Fireballer said:

You’re right.  They didn’t say 25% exactly…it was 25.8%.  And yes, Q was included.  

I'll believe the CDC said that when I see the link. 

[Fireballer 2,639]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

I'll believe the CDC said that when I see the link. 

Pretty easy to find

[League Champion 1,896]

 

[squistion 1,947]

Just now, Fireballer said:

Pretty easy to find

Then provide the link. I am pretty sure the CDC never made that announcement and I not going to waste my time looking for that, if it isn't there or has been misrepresented. 

[Fireballer 2,639]

Just now, squistion said:

Then provide the link. I am pretty sure the CDC never made that announcement and I not going to waste my time looking for that, if it isn't there or has been misrepresented. 

Suit yourself

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

6 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Mooney is a f'n idiot, for sure.  He's a lot like squizturd - ignore facts and logic for the cause!

You are crying when factual numbers are presented to you and I "ignore facts". Okay dude- look you were way off, got proven wrong, your piss poor military strawman argument got crushed too. Go cry in your pillow. 

5 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Parts of the following have been said, but:

1. The number is more than 18M.  It's reasonable to presume a good number of the "I don't wanna say" crowd would identify on the spectrum as well.

2. It's the young folks, primarily confused girls, which are succumbing to the social contagion.  Retirees aren't as easily influenced by social media and their peers.  The percentages for younger groups are way higher, like "the species would cease to exist if this were accurate" trajectory.

I'm gonna bet you aren't really talking to a lot of "confused girls" about this. And the whole "species won't exist" argument is hyperbole of the highest degree.

The 222 million number is higher too. 

4 hours ago, Fireballer said:

CDC says 25% of high school kids identify as LGBTQ.  Legit?

Feels high but . I will say though- I'm not in a district where it would be a representative case sample size. But I'd say maybe about 3% of the school population is LGBT That is out of like 1200 kids.

4 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I weep for our children's future.  No doubt looney Mooney is a purple haired, nose and nipple ring freakazoid.

Not even close. Those would 100% be the type of people I would make fun of though.

But keep crying and twisting about the numbers proving you wrong. 

[jerryskids 6,559]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

I'm gonna bet you aren't really talking to a lot of "confused girls" about this. And the whole "species won't exist" argument is hyperbole of the highest degree.

 

True, I'm not.  I presume you are going to say that you do and that you don't believe that rapid onset gender dysphoria does not exist, particularly for girls?  That the explosion of self-reporting on the spectrum among girls is all legit?

[dogcows 1,030]

2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

True, I'm not.  I presume you are going to say that you do and that you don't believe that rapid onset gender dysphoria does not exist, particularly for girls?  That the explosion of self-reporting on the spectrum among girls is all legit?

Even the person who coined the term in 2018 and did the first study about it says it isn’t a formal mental health diagnosis. Dr. Littman issued the following correction to her initial publication.

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This study of parent observations and interpretations serves to develop the hypotheses that rapid-onset gender dysphoria is a phenomenon and that social influences, parent-child conflict, and maladaptive coping mechanisms may be contributing factors for some individuals. ... This report did not collect data from the adolescents and young adults (AYAs) or clinicians and therefore does not validate the phenomenon.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6424391/

The Journal of Pediatrics did a follow-up study:

https://www.jpeds.com/article/S0022-3476(21)01085-4/fulltext

They concluded:

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We did not find support within a clinical population for a new etiologic phenomenon of rapid onset gender dysphoria during adolescence. Among adolescents under age 16 years seen in specialized gender clinics, associations between more recent gender knowledge and factors hypothesized to be involved in rapid onset gender dysphoria were either not statistically significant, or were in the opposite direction to what would be hypothesized. This putative phenomenon was posited based on survey data from a convenience sample of parents recruited from websites, and may represent the perceptions or experiences of those parents, rather than of adolescents, particularly those who may enter into clinical care.

So, ROGD is something that certain researchers theorize might exist. But so far, the evidence doesn’t back up the theory.

[League Champion 1,896]

SCIENCE 🧪

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

11 hours ago, jerryskids said:

True, I'm not.  I presume you are going to say that you do and that you don't believe that rapid onset gender dysphoria does not exist, particularly for girls?  That the explosion of self-reporting on the spectrum among girls is all legit?

Nope I'm not....but I'm also not the one who is using a presumption to make my point. I used facts.

[avoiding injuries 1,509]

19 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Parts of the following have been said, but:

1. The number is more than 18M.  It's reasonable to presume a good number of the "I don't wanna say" crowd would identify on the spectrum as well.

I’d say less than 18M as about 10M said yes as a joke or logged in as their friend so they would get queer emails sent to them relentlessly. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832]

29 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Nope I'm not....but I'm also not the one who is using a presumption to make my point. I used facts.

You've NEVER used facts in here - not once. The next time you do will be the FIRST time you do.

You're all emotion and propaganda.

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

25 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

You've NEVER used facts in here - not once. The next time you do will be the FIRST time you do.

You're all emotion and propaganda.

I'll help you out by bolding the facts

On 7/15/2023 at 8:15 AM, Sean Mooney said:

As of 2022- 86% of adults in the US identify as straight or heterosexual, 7% offer no opinion, and 7% identify as LGBT. That means roughly 222 million people identify as straight and 18 million identify as LGBT with another 18 million declining to offer their sexual orientation. 

Yet we can people saying things like "The LGBT are invading schools to convert kids."  or the most bizarre slippery slope rant one could give while comparing it to the plot of a 90's Marvel comic book movie. This is the epitome of a bad faith argument. 

And when people are saying things like: "The only reason a same-sex couple should be ever be able to adopt is if they LITERALLY cannot find a normal sex couple." You are dealing with someone who is a straight up azzhole. And these idiotic thoughts being thrown out there are the exact reason why we have these months and programs. Because the idea is to say "Hey it's okay these people exist. You don't have to agree with them but be cool to them."

Not enough for you?

21 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

There are 258,300,000 million adults in the US as of the 2020 census. Gallup is where the percentage numbers are from.

You're statement was "We are now at 10%?  15%?  20%?  GTFO." You are wrong. You said "We used to be at 2-4%." We haven't been at 2% in a considerably long time. Furthest I can find back in a short glance is 3.5% in 2012. It was 4.5% in 2017 and 5.6% in 2020. 

And yes 18 million is small considering it is only 7% of the population. There are 222 million straight people and another 16 million that might be straight but choose not to say (and yes there could be some in that 18 million who are gay and choose not to say.) 18 million of 222 million is 8%. So yes- it is a small number.

There are 1.4 million people in the US military. Of that 1.4 million- 6.1% identify as LGBT according to the Rand corporation which is roughly 86 thousand people. So 7% of the adults in the US identify as LGBT...6.1% of the military identify as LGBT...that seems to match up pretty well. In fact- for fun let's say the military had 258,300,000 million people in it- at 6.1% that would mean there are about 16 million LGBT people in the military. Those numbers are not far off.

So apparently- the US military "the strongest, most dominant force in the world of 6 billion population," is still all that despite a similar ratio of LGBT identifying individuals to the overall population ratio of LGBT identifying individuals.

Looks like you the dumb m'fer. And you come off as a bigoted azzhole to boot. 

 

 

Now do what you always do- make a gay joke, say someone else is lying, call them a dumb m'fer and say "GTFO"....but most importantly- your real go to move- cry like a b!tch when you are proven wrong. 

[seafoam1 2,799]

13 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'll help you out by bolding the facts

Not enough for you?

Now do what you always do- make a gay joke, say someone else is lying, call them a dumb m'fer and say "GTFO"....but most importantly- your real go to move- cry like a b!tch when you are proven wrong. 

Wow. What a whiner you are. 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

Nothing weird at all about this 

 

[seafoam1 2,799]

1 minute ago, Dizkneelande said:

Nothing weird at all about this 

 

This is what happens when you put people like mooney in a kid's classroom day in and day out.

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

This is what happens when you put people like mooney in a kid's classroom day in and day out.

The left has destroyed 2 generations in America. The easiest way for them to cleanse themselves of their white guilt is to become marginalized. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832]

2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'll help you out by bolding the facts

Not enough for you?

Now do what you always do- make a gay joke, say someone else is lying, call them a dumb m'fer and say "GTFO"....but most importantly- your real go to move- cry like a b!tch when you are proven wrong. 

You dumb m'fer.  You posted a bunch of stats that actually proved my point that 18 MILLION F'N PEOPLE is a LOT of people and a major portion of those are infiltrating our institutions and promoting abnormal and perverted lifestyles! 

Do you not even consider context when you respond to posts?  How f'n stupid are you, jack@ss?

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

38 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

You dumb m'fer.  You posted a bunch of stats that actually proved my point that 18 MILLION F'N PEOPLE is a LOT of people and a major portion of those are infiltrating our institutions and promoting abnormal and perverted lifestyles! 

Do you not even consider context when you respond to posts?  How f'n stupid are you, jack@ss?

Eternal Shiny: "What are we up to now? 10% 15% 20% GTFO"

Me: Here are stats that show it is only 7% actually and that 18 million LGBT is miniscule when compared to at least 222 million straight people in the US.

Eternal Shiny: "WAHHHH! THat's 9 times more than our military and we need to protect the world you dumb M'fer."

Me: "Actually- 6.1% of the military identify as LGBT which is pretty in line with the 7% in the general population and we are still ruling the world."

Eternal Shiny: "I can't deal with facts...you dumb m'fer....ARGGHHHHH!" (His head explodes into a mess of jelly even moreso than it already is)*

 

 

*I may be exaggerating that head exploding part

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[jerryskids 6,559]

12 hours ago, dogcows said:

Even the person who coined the term in 2018 and did the first study about it says it isn’t a formal mental health diagnosis. Dr. Littman issued the following correction to her initial publication.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6424391/

The Journal of Pediatrics did a follow-up study:

https://www.jpeds.com/article/S0022-3476(21)01085-4/fulltext

They concluded:

So, ROGD is something that certain researchers theorize might exist. But so far, the evidence doesn’t back up the theory.

I appreciate the links, and I am aware that using ROGD was a bit lazy on my part, as that phrase is somewhat charged in the gender-changing community, sorta like CRT to conservatives.  So imagine all of the characteristics of ROGD, but call it something else if you'd like.

I strongly recommend the following podcast which was recently released by Bari Weiss on her Honestly podcast.  It talks about the changes that continue to happen in Britain regarding trans medical care.  I realize that she has become something of an outcast in the LGBT community, despite being lesbian herself, because she dared question the Left's decision to ostracize JK Rowling.  But it really presents a level discussion to the topic, presenting both side arguments in many cases.

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When Ideology Corrupts Medicine—and How One Reporter Exposed It

Last month, Britain’s National Health Service made major news when they announced that they were banning the use of puberty blockers for children, except for those enrolled in a tightly regulated clinical trial. The decision was made after an independent review found there were “significant uncertainties” surrounding the long-term effects of these drugs, which had previously been touted as totally reversible.

The announcement followed another major decision that the NHS made last year on the same subject, which was to close Britain and Wales’ only treatment center for children with gender dysphoria: the Tavistock Gender and Identity Service. The NHS found that the care provided at Tavistock, which has operated for nearly 35 years, was “not safe or viable as a long-term option for the care of young people with gender related distress.”

These decisions bring the UK in sync with countries like Sweden and Norway—which have also made similar policy decisions when it comes to gender care for children. But all of those countries seem light-years away from how the United States approaches these issues. 

My guest today, Hannah Barnes, has reported on this topic for years. Indeed, her reporting was the catalyst for many of these new changes. She’s here to explain what happened in the UK, and why the U.S. is so out of step with one of our strongest allies.

Hannah is an award-winning investigations producer at Newsnight, one of the BBC’s flagship news programs. Her new book, Time To Think, follows the story from Tavistock’s inception to its imminent closure. It investigates how a clinic can open its doors to thousands of young patients at their most vulnerable, how it can operate for more than three decades without oversight or regulation, and how—in the words of some of the clinic’s own staff—this “medical scandal” unfolded. 

https://www.thefp.com/p/when-ideology-corrupts-medicineand-f59

It's only 70 minutes, so not a huge time commitment.

A few key things from the podcast:

- "We shouldn't confuse strength of conviction with permanence of conviction."  I could not love this quote enough.  Children, especially adolescents, feel very strongly about... many things.  That doesn't mean they will feel that way forever.  It is our job as adults to keep this in mind.

- The use of puberty blockers and surgical interventions stems from a small Dutch study with carefully curated subjects and showed, within that group, the medical interventions helped.  Despite the curated group and the inability to date to replicate it, it has become the standard of care.

- For some reason, objections or concerns regarding the treatments have been perceived as hatred of trans people.  For example, if you said the following regarding cancer:  "I'm concerned about this life-changing treatment for cancer which can do more harm than good, especially since we don't know if you have cancer yet."  It would not be met with "why do you hate cancer patients!"  But with trans care, the two are connected.

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Eternal Shiny: "What are we up to now? 10% 15% 20% GTFO"

Me: Here are stats that show it is only 7% actually and that 18 million LGBT is miniscule when compared to at least 222 million straight people in the US.

Eternal Shiny: "WAHHHH! THat's 9 times more than our military and we need to protect the world you dumb M'fer."

Me: "Actually- 6.1% of the military identify as LGBT which is pretty in line with the 7% in the general population and we are still ruling the world."

Eternal Shiny: "I can't deal with facts...you dumb m'fer....ARGGHHHHH!" (His head explodes into a mess of jelly even moreso than it already is)*

 

 

*I may be exaggerating that head exploding part

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Stay down, Looney Mooney.

Every time you get back up from me kicking your @ss, it gets worse for you.  You're best bet it to head to the Weenie Hut Jr. forums down the road where you might - and I stress MIGHT - be able to handle the posters there.  You stand ZERO chance here.

[The Real timschochet 6,411]

The title of this thread needs to be changed to “people who talk incessantly about trannies have mental illness.” 

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

11 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Stay down, Looney Mooney.

Every time you get back up from me kicking your @ss, it gets worse for you.  You're best bet it to head to the Weenie Hut Jr. forums down the road where you might - and I stress MIGHT - be able to handle the posters there.  You stand ZERO chance here.

Keep running from the facts dude. 

And make sure to clean up the mess you left from all those tears you've shed

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,832]

20 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Keep running from the facts dude. 

And make sure to clean up the mess you left from all those tears you've shed

You wouldn't know what a fact was if it fell out of the sky, sat on your face and wiggled.

Kicking your ass is so easy, a caveman can do it. Stay down. It's not working out for you here.

[Sean Mooney 1,937]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

You wouldn't know what a fact was if it fell out of the sky, sat on your face and wiggled.

Kicking your ass is so easy, a caveman can do it. Stay down. It's not working out for you here.

Again you have a weird way to try and hit on me man.

I shared my facts. You shared stupid outrage.

[seafoam1 2,799]

Liberals are so stupid.

[League Champion 1,896]

It's all the same perverted crap, Democrats don't care. If you don't understand the importance of me posting these memes then YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. 

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,929]

49 minutes ago, League Champion said:

It's all the same perverted crap, Democrats don't care. If you don't understand the importance of me posting these memes then YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. 

 

 

WTF? 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,929]

The Muslim city of Hamtramck Michigan has fired two HR directors for flying the pride flag on city property, in violation of their city ordinance. Anyone think there will be much outrage? If it happened in Birmingham Alabama there would be. Such hypocrisy.  

[League Champion 1,896]

5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

The title of this thread needs to be changed to “people who talk incessantly about trannies have mental illness.” 

 

It's not mental illness? Are you not paying attention? 

[Fireballer 2,639]

1 hour ago, League Champion said:

 

It's not mental illness? Are you not paying attention? 

Remember, this is the guy who would bang a man in their surgically placed wound in their torso.

[seafoam1 2,799]

42 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Remember, this is the guy who would bang a man in their surgically placed wound in their torso.

 

[League Champion 1,896]

1 hour ago, Fireballer said:

Remember, this is the guy who would bang a man in their surgically placed wound in their torso.

Ohh yeah, who can forget that famous heat getter?

Tim, are you still into Man Pssssy? 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

Not an insane person 

 

[The Real timschochet 6,411]

8 hours ago, League Champion said:

 

It's not mental illness? Are you not paying attention? 

https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2022/07/11027628/being-trans-not-a-mental-illness
 

You’re the one who is not paying attention. Educate yourself. 

[Sagging Scrot 44]

9 hours ago, Dizkneelande said:

Not an insane person 

 

These people need to be eradicated 

[League Champion 1,896]

4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2022/07/11027628/being-trans-not-a-mental-illness
 

You’re the one who is not paying attention. Educate yourself. 

No, it's a Sickness. A disgusting, bile perverted Illness. 

 

 

 

[Sagging Scrot 44]

Father Trump will eliminate all trans ideology 

[League Champion 1,896]

The Disney Character's Restroom