seafoam1 2,797 Posted February 13 6 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Don't pretend that the same didn't happen to Biden as well. Let's not be hypocrites. I don't recall anyone blaming Biden for the economy day 1 after he got sworn in. He gave us plenty of material to pull him apart aside from that. He was busy ripping on Trump for wanting to close the border during the chinese flu outbreak. I blamed him for not knowing what EOs he was signing. For keeping the schools closed for so long. Keeping the chinese flu alive for so long. Businesses shut down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 261 Posted February 13 About the title. Raise something 25%, then cut it 4% you can claim "We lowered the price" Even though it is still 21% higher than it was Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,797 Posted February 13 5 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said: About the title. Raise something 25%, then cut it 4% you can claim "We lowered the price" Even though it is still 21% higher than it was That is exactly what Biden's plan was. "Great timing for covid. Let's destroy the economy and say it's because of covid, then we can take it easy for the last couple years of my term and let the economy fix itself a bit. Then I'll look like I actually was doing something good. Even though it will still be worse off than under Trump. Don't worry though. No one will remember Trump's term. I know I won't." -creepy joe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,388 Posted February 13 Inflation is typically a global thing so in the past I have never blamed a President. Trump would be the first one because his tariffs bring a new element to the equation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 319 Posted February 13 7 hours ago, TrailGuy said: Gas prices are soaring. Trump's America. You know there are websites that can prove you're a lying sack of sh!t. Literally too. https://www.gasbuddy.com/home?search=baltimore%2C+md&fuel=1&method=all&maxAge=0 Baltimore has gas under $3. OMG prices are soaring!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarneyFife 28 Posted February 15 On 6/13/2023 at 3:07 PM, Hardcore troubadour said: Increased energy costs are a big driver of inflation. Biden went after our energy supply on day one. Closed our pipeline down and opened Russias for Putin. And that was the “green light” and it was off to the races for inflation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,877 Posted March 28 Big Jump The core personal consumption expenditures price index showed a 0.4% increase for the month, the biggest monthly gain since January 2024, putting the 12-month inflation rate at 2.8%. Economists surveyed by Dow Jones had been looking for respective numbers of 0.3% and and 2.7%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grace Under Pressure 69 Posted March 28 More crappy economic numbers under Trump. All that dummy needed to do was nothing, the economy was in good shape. But his narcissistic need for "look at me" about everything leads him to do "tariffs", which are good in his opinion because he can do them without needing anything from Congress. Despite the fact they are absolutely stupid as far as being an economic policy. A dope, supported by the lesser intelligent red states, and voila. Economy now trending toward recession, stagflation, reduced consumer confidence, reduced tourism from Canada and Europe. Great job out of the poorly educated. At least you get to punish transgenders though. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 559 Posted March 28 29 minutes ago, Grace Under Pressure said: More crappy economic numbers under Trump. All that dummy needed to do was nothing, the economy was in good shape. But his narcissistic need for "look at me" about everything leads him to do "tariffs", which are good in his opinion because he can do them without needing anything from Congress. Despite the fact they are absolutely stupid as far as being an economic policy. A dope, supported by the lesser intelligent red states, and voila. Economy now trending toward recession, stagflation, reduced consumer confidence, reduced tourism from Canada and Europe. Great job out of the poorly educated. At least you get to punish transgenders though. Good grief. Who dug up this alias? We literally have a half dozen faaaaaar left communists. Posting under 20 different names. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,480 Posted March 28 35 minutes ago, Grace Under Pressure said: More crappy economic numbers under Trump. All that dummy needed to do was nothing, the economy was in good shape. But his narcissistic need for "look at me" about everything leads him to do "tariffs", which are good in his opinion because he can do them without needing anything from Congress. Despite the fact they are absolutely stupid as far as being an economic policy. A dope, supported by the lesser intelligent red states, and voila. Economy now trending toward recession, stagflation, reduced consumer confidence, reduced tourism from Canada and Europe. Great job out of the poorly educated. At least you get to punish transgenders though. Inflation rate is steadily going down. https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi In January, it was at 3%, then 2.8% in February. March, by their numbers, projects to go down 2.5%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,877 Posted March 28 Market taking a beating on this news. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,480 Posted March 28 Just now, thegeneral said: Market taking a beating on this news. Sounds like a great time to buy. Especially since we're trending down on the inflation rate. MAGA baby. Maybe we can find a way to get 4 more years of Trump after 2028. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted March 28 On 4/13/2023 at 8:18 AM, The Real timschochet said: https://www.axios.com/2023/04/13/rent-inflation-highest-since-1981-but-signs-of-peak Great news for the USA, terrible news for Republicans. What are you guys going to run on now? You think transgender issues and CRT are going to win national elections? So we know that inflation was under control until the moronic policies of Biden created a problem. A timeline shows us the truth And then we can see inflation going down, so then everything is OK right> Wrong. Through his stupidity Biden both inflamed inflation and then ignored it. Those peaks you note are still there. Inflation does not simply "go away". Sure, you can lower the damage currently, but that does not fix what was done. Fixing the problem is brutal, and hard. Which is why I am rather bothered by the stupidity.....the absolute focking stupidity of Democrats to both inflame it and then ignore it. Now, as we fix it, Democrats will cry like little b!tches about the medicine it takes to unfock their stupidity. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,877 Posted March 28 1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said: Sounds like a great time to buy. Especially since we're trending down on the inflation rate. MAGA baby. Maybe we can find a way to get 4 more years of Trump after 2028. Look at Trump providing all these buying opportunities. What a guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,480 Posted March 28 10 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Look at Trump providing all these buying opportunities. What a guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,877 Posted March 28 5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: I’m waiting for him to say this His new line is “I don’t pay attention to the markets”! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,480 Posted March 28 9 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I’m waiting for him to say this His new line is “I don’t pay attention to the markets”! Wasn't that the line from the Democrats when the market was up? How come if Trump says it, it would be bad? So confusing... the left is always giving contradicting stances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,388 Posted March 28 30 minutes ago, RLLD said: So we know that inflation was under control until the moronic policies of Biden created a problem. A timeline shows us the truth And then we can see inflation going down, so then everything is OK right> Wrong. Through his stupidity Biden both inflamed inflation and then ignored it. Those peaks you note are still there. Inflation does not simply "go away". Sure, you can lower the damage currently, but that does not fix what was done. Fixing the problem is brutal, and hard. Which is why I am rather bothered by the stupidity.....the absolute focking stupidity of Democrats to both inflame it and then ignore it. Now, as we fix it, Democrats will cry like little b!tches about the medicine it takes to unfock their stupidity. Are the tariffs on everything supposed to be part of that medicine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,388 Posted March 28 3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: How come if Trump says it, it would be bad? Maybe because Trump has taken credit for the market when it is high about a thousand times? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted March 28 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: Are the tariffs on everything supposed to be part of that medicine? Pointing at tariffs as some problem would be akin to suggesting your foot rash caused a heart attack. I know you want to latch on to anything at all that might give you hope, but this is not that thing. These tariffs are going to create a muscular economy with higher wages. Later as this manifests you will become more desperate for a way to impugn rather than celebrate, but we can cross that bridge later. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,388 Posted March 28 5 minutes ago, RLLD said: Pointing at tariffs as some problem would be akin to suggesting your foot rash caused a heart attack. I know you want to latch on to anything at all that might give you hope, but this is not that thing. These tariffs are going to create a muscular economy with higher wages. Later as this manifests you will become more desperate for a way to impugn rather than celebrate, but we can cross that bridge later. The tariffs don’t give me hope, they give me heartburn. And “muscular with higher wages” aren’t the words I would use to describe what the economy is going to look like. Also: you attack my integrity here. I’ve written again and again that I want our economy to be prosperous and if it is I will congratulate President Trump and admit I was wrong about the tariffs. I hope that comes to pass. I hope even more he changes his mind again and doesn’t do them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted March 28 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: The tariffs don’t give me hope, they give me heartburn. And “muscular with higher wages” aren’t the words I would use to describe what the economy is going to look like. Also: you attack my integrity here. I’ve written again and again that I want our economy to be prosperous and if it is I will congratulate President Trump and admit I was wrong about the tariffs. I hope that comes to pass. I hope even more he changes his mind again and doesn’t do them. You cannot fix a problem without some pain, sweat and perhaps blood. There is no utopia, or utopian solution where pain is not going to happen. We have to stop chasing notions that we can fix without pain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236 Posted March 28 It’s transitory. We can just run with that or something Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted March 28 18 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Wasn't that the line from the Democrats when the market was up? How come if Trump says it, it would be bad? So confusing... the left is always giving contradicting stances. No, their line when records were being set during Trump 1.0 was he’s just making the rich richer. Under Biden everyone shared in the bounty. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,480 Posted March 28 11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: No, their line when records were being set during Trump 1.0 was he’s just making the rich richer. Under Biden everyone shared in the bounty. Oh, gotchya. They were ignoring the fact that the lower income people weren't benefitting... it was only the 1%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,480 Posted March 28 26 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Maybe because Trump has taken credit for the market when it is high about a thousand times? Ok, let's see if I got this right.... When Trump points to the market when it's up, he does it to make himself look good. When the market is down, IF he's says "Ignore the market", that'll make him a hypocrite? When the market was up, the left deflects. When the market is down, they call out Trump (even though it's only been 2 months). That's NOT being a hypocrite. Yes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,388 Posted March 28 21 minutes ago, RLLD said: You cannot fix a problem without some pain, sweat and perhaps blood. There is no utopia, or utopian solution where pain is not going to happen. We have to stop chasing notions that we can fix without pain. I don’t disagree with this principle. But I don’t think it applies to tariffs; I don’t believe they will fix anything. I think they will cause pain short term in order to bring about greater pain long term. I also think your response here is interesting given your criticism of Joe Biden: Biden spent a lot of money at the start of his Presidency, knowing that it would risk inflation, because he thought it was the only way to get us out of the economic malaise that Covid caused. I think he made the right decision and in so doing he applied your principle of risking pain in order to fix a problem. And look at the result: the economy boomed during the last 18 months of his Presidency. Are you willing to concede he might have made the correct move? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,388 Posted March 28 2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Ok, let's see if I got this right.... When Trump points to the market when it's up, he does it to make himself look good. When the market is down, IF he's says "Ignore the market", that'll make him a hypocrite? When the market was up, the left deflects. When the market is down, they call out Trump (even though it's only been 2 months). That's NOT being a hypocrite. Yes? No. The left are just as hypocritical. They’re a little less bombastic about it, but then, who is more bombastic than Donald Trump? Personally I don’t believe in giving Presidents credit or fault for the economy as a general rule, unless you’re willing to look at it a year later. The tariffs are an exception; I fear they will bring down our economy and I think if that happens it will be fair game to hold Trump responsible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,480 Posted March 28 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: No. The left are just as hypocritical. They’re a little less bombastic about it, but then, who is more bombastic than Donald Trump? Personally I don’t believe in giving Presidents credit or fault for the economy as a general rule, unless you’re willing to look at it a year later. The tariffs are an exception; I fear they will bring down our economy and I think if that happens it will be fair game to hold Trump responsible. Got it... you'll find ways to make an exception when Republican's do it, but just "ho hum" when Democrats do it. Just like Mooney. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted March 28 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I don’t disagree with this principle. But I don’t think it applies to tariffs; I don’t believe they will fix anything. I think they will cause pain short term in order to bring about greater pain long term. I also think your response here is interesting given your criticism of Joe Biden: Biden spent a lot of money at the start of his Presidency, knowing that it would risk inflation, because he thought it was the only way to get us out of the economic malaise that Covid caused. I think he made the right decision and in so doing he applied your principle of risking pain in order to fix a problem. And look at the result: the economy boomed during the last 18 months of his Presidency. Are you willing to concede he might have made the correct move? I see your point, I suggest that when it comes to tariffs we perceive them differently. All good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grace Under Pressure 69 Posted March 28 Typical responses. Inflation is up due to tariffs, market is tanking. Gullible MAGA: "inflation's actually going down!" (it's up, that's why the market reaction). Deflection, whataboutism, and alias accusations. And of course the leader is never questioned, the most predictable tell of a cult follower. Never change MAGA lol. As long as someone else is hurting worse, like a tranny somewhere, or some immigrant. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted March 28 My wife said groceries have come down a little bit. But thanks to the idiot lefties in NY our energy costs are up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grace Under Pressure 69 Posted March 28 Ah yes, "Actually it's the Dems fault". Almost forgot that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,903 Posted March 28 Amazing that leftards would have the balls to be talking about inflation under Biden. STFU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,236 Posted March 28 what issues will the libtards have with writing off interest on american bought cars? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,285 Posted March 29 Luxury brand European Auto Manufacturer stocks only sold 1.5 % lower today. Mercedes down 1.12% BMW down 1.59% Porsche down 1.54% VW Group down 2.65% Stellantis down 4.06% Toyota down 2.67% Honda down 4.49% Ford Motor Co down 1.97% GM down 1.1% Oh, my bad, looks like the bid drop was yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 331 Posted March 30 I wish the gas here was $3.29. It's still over $4.00. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jbycho 577 Posted March 30 11 minutes ago, purdygood said: I wish the gas here was $3.29. It's still over $4.00. $2.69 You must live in shlttown USA California. Have fun with those taxes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
